Is Michigan’s Justin Amash going to help Donald Trump win reelection?

Michigan Congressman Justin Amash, the former Republican who made news last year by voting with Democrats to impeach Donald Trump, announced today that he is seriously considering a third-party run for president, as the candidate of the Libertarian Party. While he certainly has a right to do so, I, like others, can’t help but think that, if he goes down this path, he may very well help Donald Trump — a man whom he clearly feels is corrupt, authoritarian and unfit for office — win a second term by appealing to principled, conservative independents who would otherwise gravitate toward Biden. To quote Amash’s friend, former Republican congressman Joe Walsh, “If Amash gets the Libertarian nomination and stays in until the end, he could wind up going in the books as the guy who voted to impeach Trump one year, then tipped the election to him 11 months later.” Walsh, who himself attempted to take on Donald Trump in this year’s Republican primary, has also said that he finds Amash’s decision to run both “damn perplexing” and “disappointing.”

And it really is perplexing, given what Amash has said in the past about Donald Trump, the damage he’s done to the Republican Party, etc. One would think that — as Ben Rhodes noted earlier today — if Amash really felt strongly that Trump posed an authoritarian threat to our nation, his first consideration would be to see him removed from office. And, I can’t see any scenario where an Amash candidacy helps accomplish that. [A principled conservative isn’t going to win over any of the Trump base. Walsh tried that, and failed miserably.]

Walsh, for what it’s worth, was asked about this today in an interview conducted by the New York Times. Here’s the question, followed by his response.

You’ve been very critical of President Trump since before he was elected. How concerned are you that running on the Libertarian ticket will help him win re-election?

It’s impossible for anyone to know how things will shake out when you add a candidate or remove a candidate. The math is way too complicated. People claim to know. They don’t know.

A lot of the hype in that direction is based on a few people who are well known — former Republicans who are supporting Joe Biden — and they falsely assume that everyone must be like them, that every person who was a Republican or is a Republican and doesn’t like Trump, is looking strongly at Biden. And I don’t think that’s the case. I think actually a lot of people who like Biden but are Republicans will still vote for Trump because he’s closer to their policies. That’s just the way politics works.

For a lot of those people, their first choice might be me and their second choice is Trump. It’s hard to know. I don’t try to overanalyze that because no person could possibly know. It’s arrogant to think you could know how things will shake out. There are a lot of people who won’t vote for either one regardless, and the entrance of a major candidate provides them an opportunity to vote when they otherwise would not have voted. Nobody really knows. My goal is to win this race and provide an opportunity for people to vote for somebody they believe in.

I don’t have a lot of time at the moment, but I will say that, if Amash thinks that there’s any hope of winning over even 1% of the Trump base with appeals to conservative principles, he’s incredibly naive. The Party has long since moved on. And no one gives a shit about the intellectual underpinnings of fiscal conservatism anymore. Now it’s all about stoking the fires of grievance, and, if you don’t have red meat to the throw to the base, you’re as good as dead. There is no resurrecting the pre-Nixon Party. All that’s left is a hollow shell. And it’s now inhabited by showman who has some 40% of the population under his spell. Any vote Amash gets, you can be sure, will be from someone who was so disgusted by Donald Trump that they were going to cross party lines cast their ballot for Biden.

I should add that there are things that I like about Amash. While I disagree about a number of his policy positions, and hate that he came to office as part of the Tea Party nonsense of 2010, I respect him for doing what other conservatives in Congress were unwilling to do, and refusing to sacrifice his principles in order to appease Donald Trump. That doesn’t mean, however, that I’m going to give him a pass on his vote against the recent anti-lynching bill, or his ties to anti-vaxxers. But I can still respect him for standing up to Trump, and accusing his former colleagues of being hypocrites. It would have been easy enough for Amash to do what several of his former Freedom Caucus colleagues did, and become full-fledged Trumpists. He didn’t do that, however, and I respect him for it. That respect, however, only goes so far. And we’re fast approaching that line.

Sorry for rambling, but I just really don’t want for Michigan to be the thing that puts the worst president in American history over the top yet one more time.

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71 Comments

  1. Posted April 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    And just imagine what kind of shit show this will turn into once Jesse Ventura throws his hat into the ring. 

  2. Posted April 29, 2020 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    I was thinking along these lines but I really wonder if Amash would be picking up many votes that would have otherwise gone to Biden. It seems that he would be more likely to capture some of the otherwise-will-stay-at-home vote. That could mean bringing out more voters who would likely vote GOP downticket but somehow I don’t think that would bother Amash.

  3. Posted April 30, 2020 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    Polls Had Trump Stewing, and Lashing Out at His Own Campaign

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/us/politics/trump-campaign-reelection-polls.html

    (From NYT)

  4. Anonymous
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    Here is Trump’s response to the announcement.

    “I think Amash would make a wonderful candidate, especially since he is way behind in his district and has no chance of maintaining his Congressional seat.”

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1255510996623527936?s=20

  5. Bob
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    He has a bit of the Susan Collins disease I think. He likes the media attention that comes with pretending to be a thoughtful, principled person. I watched him interviewed last night and he’s just a smug prick. His voting record speaks for itself. A journalist friend of mine in NY who writes for Politico and other reputable news organizations has taken an interest in Amash and was talking to me about it. He’s a much smarter political mind than I and just doesn’t see how the numbers add up to anything but helping Biden. I don’t know. The real story is the great myth of the undecided voter. I don’t believe there is any significant number of undecided voters out there. You have to be truly stupid and feeble not to be decided now, or three years ago.

  6. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Is this the Official Tara Reade thread?

    I for one, will find it very interesting when and why you guys finally decide to talk about it. Your masters are not allowing you to speak about it yet?

    #slaves

  7. Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    What is there to talk about, FF? It should be investigated of course. Just like the 25 allegations against Trump should have been investigated.

  8. Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    And what does Tara Reade have to do with Amash?

  9. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    I’m happy to comment on Tara Reade. I think she’s almost certainly telling the truth. I also think Clinton was a rapist. And a good president. So our choice now is between a serial rapist and a handsy dude who probably committed 1st degree sexual assault. It won’t be the first time, I’m sure.

    1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted according to the CDC. Men’s groups who support male sexual assault victims believe that 1 in 6 men are sexually assaulted. Usually by men. These numbers are harder to attain because men don’t talk about their sexual assaults– as victims, by standers or predators. Many men have experienced all three scenarios. When we start to talk about it, then we will be doing something about systemic cultural sexual violence.

    Not electing Joe Biden does precisely nothing to that end.

    We live in a rape culture. Sexual assault is painfully common. The choices I have for this election are between two predatory, blowhard assholes. Only one is dangerous to the nation as a whole though, and that’s Trump. So I’m going to suck it up and vote Biden. Because I’m not a single issue voter. Because I don’t have any other good options.

    And yes it fucking breaks my heart, but my feelings are not why I vote the way I vote. They have nothing at all to do with it.

  10. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    I think it is great start, ladies. I just quickly looked at the MM Christie Blasey Ford comments . Looks like 350+ comments. I of course don’t want to say anything about it because I wanted to see how long it would take for you guys to mention it. HW is right. You will talk about it when the timing is right and when it is to your advantage.

  11. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Oops second degree sexual assault.
    But hey, I admire Thomas Jefferson and he was obviously a serial rapist of Sally Hemmings. I understand people who want to dismiss him. I’m just not willing to apply contemporary sexual morays to history. I’m willing to say the old morays were sexist and racist. And many still are. I’m interested in changing those morays and standards. I’m interested in moving forward.

    Scapegoats divert energy away from creating change. That’s their function. I’m not clear on why American media can’t seem to present these gotcha moments in that light.

    I would distinguish Biden’s accused behavior from Kavanaugh’s in many ways, I’m not willing to detail now because talking about this stuff is painful. I would simply remind everyone that Kavanaugh is my age and received a lifetime appointment. Biden must be elected. If I had a chance to vote for SCOTUS nominees, then I would not have voted for Kavanaugh before the Ford accusations appeared.

  12. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    1 honest comment in the 30+ days after the allegations were made—and the one comment was only made after multiple mentions of the absence of comments. Bravo!!

  13. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    FF– Lets be clear, the second you called me a slave for my political positions, you lost any say in the direction of this conversation. I stated my position re Tara Reid because there’s nothing to hide and no uncertainty for me on the issue and to shut you up. Now I think we would all appreciate it if you did just that.

  14. Anonymous
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    USA Today: “Why I’m skeptical about Reade’s sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

  15. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    FF– You seem to believe you have a right to direct conversation on Mark’s blog? It’s a consistent thing with you. It’s truly bizarre. Of course it always amazes me when men think they get to run things, even shit they don’t run. And how often that works for them.

    Conceit doesn’t;t work out as well for women.

  16. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Shhhhhhh!

  17. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Anonymous– The MEtoo demand to believe women is not a demand to convict without proof. It is simply asking that prosecutors, police etc believe women first, just as they do for any other criminal complaint. If you were robbed and called the police and they acted as though you were fraudulently making a fake claim from the get go, that would approximate how rape accusations are treated by the police in many cases.

    That article is a lawyer being a lawyer. He knows damn well these issues are difficult to prove in court and easier to prove one way or another in the court of public opinion. And he’s gaming the system. In the process, he is mistating the goals of #metoo to skew them to the worst fears of many men.

  18. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    You are right. It’s exactly like I am pushing the comments section of the blog against the wall and sticking my uninvited words in it. It’s immoral behavior on my part. I have been exposed.

  19. Kit
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    I know that Amash was doing well with regard to fundraising, but I have not seen poll numbers. Is he, as Trump suggests, likely to be voted out?

  20. iRobert
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Amash won’t get any more votes than any other relatively unknown person would as the Libertarian presidential candidate.

    Ventura has name recognition, so he’ll get a bit more than an unknown.

    As far as Tara Reade‘s accusations are concerned, I believe her.

  21. iRobert
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Kit, Amash would lose in a race to hold on to his congressional seat. He isn’t very popular with anybody.

  22. Sad
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Poor sleepy

    He’s really not inspiring a lot of confidence

    His only hope might be a big covid second wave

  23. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    That’s a super f’d up fantasy FF.

  24. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Not fantasy. Immoral behavior on my part. From now on I will seek consent from Jean before I write something, on a topic, at a certain rate. Just like Jean always fantasized I should.

  25. Anonymous
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    From Twitter:

    Tara has accused her father, her ex, a former employer, a former biz partner, a YWCA supervisor and Joe Biden of harassment/assault.

    She lied about a filed report.

    She’s changed her story 3 times.

    She stole from a charity.

  26. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    If that report is true. She is either a liar, a hero, or a mixture depending upon what actually happened in each individual case . Maybe she is a complex person with a mixed past? Maybe she has not led a perfect life? Maybe she is lying whore—as some might say? I wonder if what she said about Joe is true though?

  27. Bob
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Meanwhile Michigan looks like the stupid place in the country to the rest of the world. Paramilitary protestors storming the state capitol with AK-47’s for their right to go to Great Clips. There’s a lot of HW’s here and it’s frightening.

  28. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    “From twitter”

  29. Jean Henry
    Posted April 30, 2020 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/30/msnbcs_chris_hayes_you_have_to_take_serious_tara_reades_allegations_against_joe_biden.html

  30. Posted May 1, 2020 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    This is the thread which FF designated as the Tara Reade thread, right?

    From medium.com:

    Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden

    https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

    #slaves

  31. iRobert
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    Fox News isn’t excited about the Tara Reade accusations. They know it’s a setup to get Biden free TV time and to remind everyone of that issue with the admitted pussy-grabber-in-chief.

  32. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    My guess is people at Fox do not want to do anything that might jeopardizes Biden’s chances of being the candidate. I am making no truth claims about Biden’s guilt or innocence. Due process….

    I found it interesting that nobody on MM wanted to mention it for about 35 days. I don’t think either side wanted to mention for different reasons :)

  33. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    The politics are such that Biden has sort of a rape pass—if he wanted to use it. If the Dems think it is to their advantage to destroy Biden they will do it. At which point the conservatives will defend Biden because you can’t get much of a worse candidate to go against Trump. Crazy world…

  34. iRobert
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    I h e no problem talking about it. It’s becomming obvious that Reade has psychological problems and has been accusing a lot of people of sexual misconduct. Her stories change constantly.

    If there were any truth to her accusation, we’d be seeing other accusers coming out out of the woodwork like they did with Trump.

  35. iRobert
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Fox News isn’t that savvy. I’m surprised they realized this early that the Reade story is a ploy.

  36. iRobert
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    It’s pretty funny this phony story involves “pussy-grabbing.” It’s a little to obvious that they want to give Biden the opportunity to contrast himself against Trump on the topic.

  37. iRobert
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    I have no problem talking about it, is what I meant to type. I also meant to say its a little too obvious that they want to give Biden the opportunity to contrast himself against Trump on the topic.

    This thing looks like a ploy by the media to assist Biden.

  38. iRobert
    Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I believed her story initially, because the media is making an effort to avoid reporting details about Reade’s other accusations toward other people. They’ll report that stuff once Biden has had a chance to get on all the network news programs and show his compassion for his accuser. Easy win over Trump.

  39. iRobert
    Posted May 2, 2020 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Tara Reade was scheduled to appear on Fox News this weekend. That appearance has been cancelled.

    Fox News wouldn’t ever pass up a genuine chance to damage Biden. They realize they are being baited.

  40. Posted May 4, 2020 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    I’ve jumped on board with Justin’s presidential campaign. My first assignment is to come up with a campaign song, so I’m reworking Bobby “Boris” Picket‘s 1962 novelty hit. My version is titles, “Monst-Amash”

    I’m working in a lot of tea-bagging references into the new lyrics of course.

  41. Posted May 4, 2020 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Maybe MonstAmash works better.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vNuVifA7DSU

  42. Anonymous
    Posted May 6, 2020 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    What’s wrong, FF, don’t you want to talk about Tara Reade any more?

    Even Tucker Carlson know’s it’s bullshit.
    https://twitter.com/KHiveQueenBee/status/1257935778492977152?s=20

  43. iRobert
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    The Libertarian Party should nominate Tara Reade as their presidential candidate. She’s got better name recognition than Amash and she’s more likable. She’d get more votes than Amash ever could.

    I’m going to attend the Libertarian conventions. I love hanging around with a bunch of nudists and guys with mail-order wives. Now that’s a party.

  44. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    I don’t know much about it. Bullshit or not it was weird that nobody wanted to talk here for over 30 days. You might notice I never made a judgment one way or the other. I was just pointing out that it was strange that the losers here were not addressing it FOR OVER 30 DAYS.

    You seem to be a low reading comprehension type of person Anonymous.

    A big part of me never wanted to talk about it anyway because anything that reduced the chances of Biden being the candidate would be bad for me. Yet you are trying to suggest that I wanted to throw shade on Biden. Not at all. You have everything backwards—per usual.

  45. iRobert
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I think Mark probably didn’t consider the Tara Reade any more newsworthy than the dozens of accusations against Trump. I don’t assume he had a problem with talking about it. Most people don’t have the laser focus that you do, FF. This little pandemic has distracted a lot of people from the very crucial topics upon which you focus all of your energy.

    Is there a thread here devoted to sexual assault accusations against politicians. Maybe that was the place to get everyone refocused away from all this other silly, unimportant stuff, and on to the particular stories you feel should be everyone’s focus.

  46. Kim
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    “ I don’t know much about it. Bullshit or not it was weird that nobody wanted to talk here for over 30 days. You might notice I never made a judgment one way or the other. I was just pointing out that it was strange that the losers here were not addressing it FOR OVER 30 DAYS.”

    Watching the pathetic back peddling of FF on the Tara Reade claims is the best a Mother’s Day gift a girl could ask for.

  47. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Show the pedal forward, Kim. Use a quote.

    I waited 30 days to even try to get a convo going—and it was against my interests to even mention it because Biden is the ultimate person for Trump to run against.

    If you want to say stuff like that you will need to bring facts and logic.

  48. iRobert
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Happy Mothers Day, Kim.

  49. Jean Henry
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    FF thinks it’s STRANGE when we don’t address allegations when there isn’t enough information available to assess.

    I mean Trumpers never wait for more information.
    They just repeat FOX News, which also does not wait for more information.

  50. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Hearing people say they will wait to asses as more info comes in would have been normal though. It never happened for 30+ days. And the other side (FF, EOS, HW) never pushed it for 30+ days. So, how do those facts square with your bullshitty little statement?

  51. Posted May 10, 2020 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    I do think Mark should posts threads for each and every accusation of sexual misconduct against these two presidential candidates. What’s Mark trying to hid?

    The 25 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct

    https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

    With 176 days until the election, we could discuss one or two of each of these accusations per week. What are you hiding from, Mark?

  52. iRobert
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    For 30 days, Mark failed to act on this important information. What did Mark know and when did he know it?

  53. Jean Henry
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    FF also thinks that if we don’t discuss something here on MM and especially with him that we aren’t thinking about it.

    Myopic.

    Not that I feel obligated to a seer your every beckon call like you seem to think we should, FF, but I did reply when you brought it up, and that reply showed some careful consideration, and you still persist in this narrative that we were in denial.

  54. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    “you still persist in this narrative that we were in denial.“

    No Jean. I was clearing up the insinuation made by Anonymous and Kim just now. They both seemed to put forth the idea that I desperately wanted to talk about Tara Reade. I did not. And they both seemed to be suggesting I do not want to talk about it now because of a change in the circumstances. **I don’t even know what the changed circumstances are to be honest because I am not researching it at all**. I am not invested in it one way or the other really. I do hope justice is served generally of course…. If anything I did not want to talk about it for selfish reasons because I want Biden to run against Trump.

    I suppose it is true I am interested in following the coverage of the story in terms of timing and perspective. I like to track narratives. I also still have a hard time believing Biden is going to be guy. My guess at the time was that if the Dems wanted to replace Joe they would make a big deal about the accusation.

  55. Sad
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Miller just got married in February.

    How did we miss that.

    Maybe there really is someone for everybody?

  56. Jean Henry
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Well Twitter is afire with #obamagate speculation.
    This is going to be awesome.
    I can’t wait to see them hard pivot again when not much at all materializes.

    How many years did they try to get Hillary on something…anything?

    They must be tired.

    It reminds me of that call and response song: “the bear went up the mountain, the bear went up the mountain/to see what he could see, to see what he could see/ He reached the top f the mountain,He reached the top of the mountain/And what did he see? And what did he see? /He saw another mountain. He saw another mountain…”

  57. Jean Henry
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    FF– Why in the world would the Dems want to replace Joe? He just won the primary. Handily and well. I think you;’ve been drinking too much Conservative media koolaid. Here’s a tip: conservatives don’t nominate the democratic candidate !!! I would prefer another candidate but clearly most of Dem America wants a familiar person they trust. Or just the Devil they know. It does not surprise me at all that my position is not in the majority.

  58. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 10, 2020 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Because he is incompetent?

  59. iRobert
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 5:12 am | Permalink

    I’d be interested in learning what you feel are Joe Biden’s most glaringly incompetent moments, FF.

  60. bet HW that McCabe wouldn’t be fired and all I got was this stupid name
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    Aloha, graphical representation of how the exceptional nation is doing compared to those who are CRUSHING the virus. The Death Cult will be waging a misdirection campaign till the election. Do not let them normalize the slaughter of our fellow americans

    https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/96440307_10159969486875031_2143415167214419968_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=HjHQzbLYGaMAX8qJBDO&_nc_ht=scontent.fdet1-1.fna&_nc_tp=14&oh=3514d9dee6b940ff515b065df40fa92e&oe=5EDF8983

  61. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    He doesn’t even talk much. We have all seen this happen to old folks who have declining mental faculties.

    https://youtu.be/ADDrSvNyqEY

  62. iRobert
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    If you’re ever out camping in the wilderness with a friend, FF, and a bear charges you, you don’t have to outrun the Bear. You just have to outrun your friend.

  63. Frosted Flakes
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    https://youtu.be/aPVLyB0Yc6I

  64. iRobert
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Really, Biden is a far better candidate than Trump. As far as candidates go, he has much broader appeal. Senior citizens vote in the greatest numbers and Biden appeals to them more than the other Democratic candidates would have. It cuts into a lot of Trump’s support, which has never been a majority by the way.

  65. bet HW that McCabe wouldn’t be fired and all I got was this stupid name
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Aloha, Trumps decision to sacrifice the elderly has not gone unnoticed by the over 60 crowd. Polling shows Trump loosing support among that age group (particularly older white woman) faster than any other demographic.

  66. iRobert
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    So far, the interests which were responsible for escorting Trump through the primaries and which disabled Dem get-out-the-vote operations in the rust-belt states…so far, those interests have not lifted a finger to handle the challenges of this pandemic on Trump’s behalf. That suggests it isn’t Trump’s success that was their objective. It looks much more like he was set up as a fall guy.

  67. iRobert
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Oddly, FF, the video you linked to includes several clips which do not seem to support the titles assertion. Did you notice that?

  68. iRobert
    Posted May 13, 2020 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    Oh, now I get the meaning of your “Sometimes the bear eats you” link, FF. The “bear” is the Russian Bear.

    Russia Is Going to Up Its Game for the 2020 Elections

    https://www.wired.com/story/russia-2020-election-security-mark-warner/

    You’re probably right.

  69. Posted May 16, 2020 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    UPDATE:

  70. iRobert
    Posted May 16, 2020 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Amash is funny. If all the reasons he mentioned for not running, he didn’t mention the fact that nobody knows who he is, or wants to.

  71. iRobert
    Posted May 18, 2020 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    The trouble with Amash is that there isn’t an indictment against him waiting to be unsealed. That makes people cocky.

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