Fuck the Emmys. We’re in crisis.

We somehow allowed the Russia investigation to be framed in such a way that about 50% of Americans, even when confronted by evidence of Donald Trump’s multiple instances of obstruction of justice, still seemed to think that he should not be impeached. The Republicans, to their credit, had successfully set the ground rules at the beginning, telling the American people that, unless Mueller could prove collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, it would be a victory for the President. This, of course, wasn’t true, as the obstruction of justice itself would have been an impeachable offense, but after Trump’s Attorney General issued his letter stating “no collusion“, and Donald Trump followed up with his “totally exonerated” tweet, it became incredibly difficult for Democrats to make the case. By the time the Mueller report was finally made public by the Attorney General, the damage had already been done. And it didn’t matter that Mueller went to Capitol Hill to say that his report had not exonerated Trump, or that any number of legal scholars had weighed in to say that Trump’s actions, as outlined in the Mueller Report, we’re, in fact, impeachable… The Democrats had allowed the investigation to be framed in the public consciousness around collusion, and, when Mueller didn’t turn up actual audio of Putin and Trump agreeing to a quid pro quo involving a tower in Moscow and a military-grade disinformation campaign directed at Hillary Clinton in exchange for a rollback of sanctions and the dismantling of NATO, the whole thing was pretty much over.

And the Republicans in Congress have been hiding these past several months behind this “no collusion” fig leaf, which has allowed them to keep supporting Donald Trump. It would have been different, they told us, if Trump, instead of standing on stage during the 2016 campaign, and publicly requesting that the Russians hack Hillary Clinton’s emails, had asked Vladimir Putin directly, but, as there was no evidence that he had, they felt comfortable in continuing their support. But, rest assured, if there had been hard evidence that Trump had colluded… if there there was evidence that he’d actually asked a foreign leader to help take down a political rival… well, then it would have been a completely different matter altogether.

Well, here we are.

It would appear as though this is exactly what’s now happened. According to multiple sources, it looks as though Donald Trump recently reached out to Ukraine President Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky, demanding that he open an investigation into Joe Biden, the man he’s expecting to face in the 2020 general election, or forego millions of dollars in foreign aid that had been appropriated by Congress. Here, with the background, is a clip from The Atlantic.

…The president of the United States reportedly sought the help of a foreign government against an American citizen who might challenge him for his office. This is the single most important revelation in a scoop by The Wall Street Journal, and if it is true, then President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office immediately.

Until now, there was room for reasonable disagreement over impeachment as both a matter of politics and a matter of tactics. The Mueller report revealed despicably unpatriotic behavior by Trump and his minions, but it did not trigger a political judgment with a majority of Americans that it warranted impeachment. The Democrats, for their part, remained unwilling to risk their new majority in Congress on a move destined to fail in a Republican-controlled Senate.

Now, however, we face an entirely new situation. In a call to the new president of Ukraine, Trump reportedly attempted to pressure the leader of a sovereign state into conducting an investigation—a witch hunt, one might call it—of a U.S. citizen, former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son Hunter Biden.

As the Ukrainian Interior Ministry official Anton Gerashchenko told the Daily Beast when asked about the president’s apparent requests, “Clearly, Trump is now looking for kompromat to discredit his opponent Biden, to take revenge for his friend Paul Manafort, who is serving seven years in prison.”

If this in itself is not impeachable, then the concept has no meaning. Trump’s grubby commandeering of the presidency’s fearsome and nearly uncheckable powers in foreign policy for his own ends is a gross abuse of power and an affront both to our constitutional order and to the integrity of our elections.

The story may even be worse than we know. If Trump tried to use military aid to Ukraine as leverage, as reporters are now investigating, then he held Ukrainian and American security hostage to his political vendettas. It means nothing to say that no such deal was reached; the important point is that Trump abused his position in the Oval Office…

I don’t know how such things are archived — whether we just have a transcript, or an actual recording of the call between Trump and Zelensky — but it would appear that we now have the “smoking gun” that everyone said we needed in the earlier case with Russia. We have, it would seem, rock solid evidence of collusion. Sadly, though, the only Republican in Congress to speak out thus far is Mitt Romney, who just shared the following.

And, for what it’s worth, even the President is pretty much admitting it now. He started out last week adamantly denying the story, essentially saying that he wouldn’t be so stupid as to say something like this on a call when he knew that U.S intelligence officers were listening, and reiterating that it was “a perfectly fine and routine conversation” and that “nothing was said that was in any way wrong”. Then, yesterday, when someone likely confirmed for him that a transcript or recording existed, his tone changed, and he began sharing quotes about how “an American spy in one of our intelligence agencies (that) may have been spying on our own president”. [I love it when he plays the “I’m the real victim here” card.] And, today, he pretty much just came right out and admitted that he’d talked with Zelensky about Biden.

[Trump also said yesterday that “Everybody’s read (the whistleblower’s complaint, and they all) laugh at it”. The truth, however, is that virtually no one has read the whistleblower’s complaint, as Trump’s DNI and Attorney General are blocking it from Congress, as we discussed on Friday.]

Two quick things about the underlying allegations against Biden. First, Biden said today that he’s “never spoken to (his) son about his overseas business dealings”. And, second, most reliable fact-checks seem to indicate that Biden didn’t do anything wrong. This doesn’t mean, of course, that his son may not have traded on his father’s name to advance his own career, etc. It just doesn’t appear as though, at least in this instance, that Biden took any action to help advance his son’s business interests in Ukraine, as Trump has suggesting. [This has already been looked into a lot.]

I could go on, but I’ll leave you with this from Elizabeth Warren.

She’s absolutely right… I respect Pelosi, and I understand the position that she’s in, not wanting to go forward with impeachment proceedings when she knows that half the country doesn’t agree, and knowing that, even if the House votes to Impeach, Senate Republicans, who are in control of that chamber, likely wouldn’t even call a vote. She doesn’t want a ‘show’ vote, especially if it means harming the members of her delegation who hale from red states. But I think the time for considering such political calculus is well past us now. And Elizabeth Warren is exactly right when she says, “By failing to act (on impeachment earlier) Congress is complicit in Trump’s latest attempt to solicit foreign interference to aid him in US elections“. This is 100% true. And I think I speak for a lot of Democrats who invested heavily during the 2018 campaign when I say that this isn’t what we fought so hard for. This isn’t the kind of action that we had in mind when we fought for a Democratic majority in the House, and it’s not the kind of thing that’ll motivate us to fight again in 2020. We voted for Democrats with the understanding that the’d do their constitutionaly-mandated duty, and remove the criminally-unfit Donald Trump from office, not sit back and wait for a chance to take back the presidency in 2020. Every day we allow him to stay in office, he tests the system more (like a velociraptor testing the fences at Jurassic Park). Every day that we wait, he becomes more emboldened and brazen in his criminality. The longer we put it off, the more sane members of his administration, and of the Republican Congress, are forced out. And every moment we let pass, we become more desensitized to it all. Now is the time for action. We cannot allow this to continue. We need to articulate the case for impeachment for the American people.

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52 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    Posted September 22, 2019 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    I agree that everything is shit and we need to impeach The Great Yam, but can’t we take a moment and appreciate Bill Hader’s work on Barry?

  2. EOS
    Posted September 22, 2019 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Except Trump wasn’t encouraging a witch hunt, but an investigation into the crimes committed by Biden’s son. This is a problem for the Biden family, not Trump.

  3. Bob
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 5:13 am | Permalink

    Sorry, we can go back to impeachment tomorrow. Today is all about the fabulous Phoebe Waller-Bridge.

  4. iRobert
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    Romney needs to challenge Trump in Iowa. Most Republicans know another five years of this is going to be a disaster.

  5. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    Aloha, I think the reason the Congressional investigations and impeachment proceedings have moved like molasses has nothing to do with 50% of Americans not wanting impeachment. I think it is 100% the result of the most powerful Democratic Party leader not wanting impeachment.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/154523/nancy-pelosi-impeach

    Blaming the people for the failure of party leaders will not bring about change. Blaming the party leaders for bad leadership might be more helpful. Warren has it kinda right, but engages in a pretty good head fake when she blames “Congress”. The Speaker of the House controls the House Agenda. The blame is Pelosi’s. Not calling her out, enables her.

  6. Posted September 23, 2019 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    From NYT:

    Warren Leads in New Iowa Poll With Biden Second

    http://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/politics/Iowa-biden-warren-.amp.html

  7. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    Aloha, more sprouts, they can spring up almost anywhere. This was more in the nature of a “warning” strike.

    https://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20171009/news/641636/marquette-nurses-2-day-strike-ends-in-lockout-return-to-work-tuesday

  8. Posted September 23, 2019 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    From fivethirtyeight.com:

    Would Democrats Really Face A Backlash If They Impeached Trump?

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/would-democrats-really-face-a-backlash-if-they-impeached-trump/

  9. Sad
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Warren would probably take on Pete as VP?

    Right?

  10. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Aloha Sad, I don’t know. Ever since she became a politician back in 2011 she has been in favor of marriage equality. Can’t find any position that she might have taken on the issue prior to 2011, which is the year that Tulsi renounced her prior thoughts on gay marriage and became a fervent supporter of same, of course it is important to smear Tulsi as anti-gay so that we can all get behind Warren, who’s position prior to 2011, was not much different than Tulsi’s. Both have introduced and supported legislation that promotes and protects marriage equality since 2011 getting very high marks from the Advocate. If Pete can demonstrate the ability to be “Fighting” Pete, maybe. The role of VP is historically to be the Pres’s. political attack dog. Tulsi has demonstrated she is willing to knee cap the enemy. Can Mayor Pete take out Uncle Joe, or Bernie for Liz, then maybe.

  11. John Brown
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    DD,

    Tulsi seems awfully friendly and completely uncritical of ethno-nationalist Modi. Who himself seems all good with Agent Orange. Nazis like his Hindu-Nationalist example for their own ethno-state. Get over her.

  12. Lynne
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    DD, I think Pelosi’s stance has everything to do with there not being support among voters for impeachment. I totally blame the voters. And that link you posted? A straight-up hit piece that is pretty similar to the shit Bernie supporters were saying about HRC.

    At any rate, I am conflicted here. On the one hand, I agree that this president is so morally egregious that there is value in impeachment. However, if the electorate is not in support, one likely effect is to motivate people to get out to the polls to vote for him. People love rescuing victims and if Trump gets positioned as a victim, and he will, his re-election is much more likely. I know that as a very privileged person, it is all well and good for me to sit around and support impeachment because it is the morally right thing to do. But what about people whose lives are at stake? How would 4 more years of Trump look to them? How would it look if increased turn out for Trump meant the house was lost too? I don’t know but unlike others, I think Pelosi is concerned about such things too.

  13. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Aloha JB, I know you want to use your guns on some fascist, and are another pro-war Democrat who is in favor of continually giving the military security congressional industrial complex control over our foreign policy. I recommend you join the Peoples Protection Forces in Rojava, they readily accept support from International anti-fascist fighters (and who knows you might get your chance to shoot at one of your evil Ruskies).

    In this country, if you want to join the fight–find a picket line to support (leave your guns at home).

    I support Tulis because she is a solid progressive who has principles and is under 70 years old. The longer the old folks control the agenda the longer it will take to shift gears. Tulsi knows that we need a transformation of society–end the rule of the carbon barons both in energy and in agriculture. She understands the causes and effects of climate change. She advocates for people oriented solutions needed to address our climate changing world. I think she is the only Presidential candidate who has been to Puerto Rico and marched with the people to throw out the corrupt corporate lapdog Governor. Is she always right on all the issues–no, but she is right on those issues that are critical.

  14. Lynne
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Sad, I would rather she took on Stacey Abrams but I suspect that wouldn’t go over well and she will need a white man on her ticket. Mayer Pete would be a good choice but I suspect she would pick someone just a bit more conservative to balance things out

  15. EOS
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    iRobert,

    Another 5 years of this obstruction of the Trump administration will be disastrous for the Democratic party. What have the Dems accomplished recently? How have they worked with this administration to make changes for the betterment of our country? How have they earned their salaries? Nothing to show but anti-Trump smears that are not backed up by the evidence.

  16. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Aloha Lynne–sorry for chronically misspelling your name. You sound like you would support Tulsi’s position on impeachment.

  17. Lynne
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    And just remember folks, there are LOTs of voters who think just like EOS. Thank goodness we have a SOH who understands that!

  18. Lynne Fremont
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    DD, I would not hold it against her. Just like I don’t hold it against any member of the House who is advocating impeachment.

  19. Anonymous
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    The U.S. Secretary of State endorses Rudy Giuliani’s efforts to seek help from a foreign government to investigate President Trump’s political opponent

    https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1175771817602093056?s=21

  20. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Aloha hypocritical EOS, Mitch McConnel on working with Obama—sorry you will not get to enter heaven as long as you embrace hypocrisy in your political/personal life.

    Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. On that day many will say to Me, Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’ Then I will announce to them, I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’

  21. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    It is not like butter but it is his bread and butter.

    https://youtu.be/wLjWkEoWCe0

    Mark shall not live on butter alone, but on every re-frame that proceeds from the packaging of his DEM.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/SsczjJBXsyVVYLYJ8

  22. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Aloha, Nobody here ever wants to speak up for Bernie. All the upscale woman hate him, but it is interesting to see who are the 1 million fellow Americans who have contributed to his campaign. His top donors by profession are, Teachers, Nurses, Farmers, Truck Drivers, Waiter/ Waitress, Construction Workers and Students.

    He will be walking the line at the Detroit/Hamtramck (Poletown) Assembly Plant on Wednesday.

    https://www.facebook.com/Flint4Bernie2020/photos/a.1253980921432197/1389713214525633/?type=3&theater

  23. anon
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    Warren was there yesterday. I think that is why so many like her.

  24. Bob
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    I’m struggling to understand what anyone thinks either Stacey Abrams or Mayor Pete have done that merits the nominee picking them as a running mate. Be a demographic? Warren’s smartest pick would be Sherrod Brown. Strong blue collar, white male appeal. Tough enough to do the dirty work needed during the campaign.

  25. John Brown
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    dd,

    No response to the cozy up to Tulsi ethno-nationalism complaint? Is seems like a legit complaint to me. If my Local cant settle our upcoming contract negotiations, as an elected Union officer, I will definitely recruit you to join us picketing.

  26. Jean Henry
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Bob– Phoebe Waller Bridge is doing her one woman show at the Michigan Theater this Thursday. It’s a bargain at $18/ticket GA

  27. Jean Henry
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    DD– If/When Tulsi bows out, who will you support for the nomination?

  28. Jean Henry
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Ah. Bernie. Well, no surprises there.

    Might want to check those same categories and their support for Warren.

    As I if based on donations that doesn’t mean support at this point. I’ve donated small amounts to 4 candidates at this point just to get them on the debate stage.

  29. Jean Henry
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    DD — you don’t mention the software and other engineers that make up Bernie’s second and third place in donor occupation. Tech bros. No one is surprised.

    Warren is second and third (behind mayor Pete) in the professions you cited. Her primary donors are the highly educated: scientists & professors. Do you equate those professions with ’upscale’ elitism? Hmmm….

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/09/sanders-vs-warren-who-has-more-working-class-donors/

  30. Lynne
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Bob, Stacey Abrams has done quite a lot. Her work on Fair Fight 2020 alone would qualify her imho. Also she writes romance novels so that just makes me like her more. I admittedly haven’t read any of them yet but I am going to!

    With that said, I also agree that Sherrod Brown would be a good choice. Admittedly I don’t know him too well but I LOVE his wife and she loves him so he must be ok. :)

  31. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Aloha, Every time I listen to Krystal I am more and more impressed with her straight forward analysis.

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/462564-rising-september-23-2019

    Aloha JB, which UAW strikers has your local adopted–Solidarity is a verb.
    Your analysis of Tulsi’s position is shallow at best. Tulsi has a very detailed and progressive foreign policy. The most basic part is diplomacy working towards cooperative arrangements–primarily dealing with climate change. She is the only candidate who places Peace as a key priority. You will not be able to influence Modi, and the Hindu Nationalist if you make them an enemy. Same goes for Pakistan (it is occasionally also a Democracy). I know that you are like most Trump folks, a believer in American Exceptionalism, you just want different enemies than them.

    JH, Tulsi plans on running against Trump next fall. She knows that she can create a coalition of Progressives, Democrats, Independents, Libertarians and anti-war Republicans to defeat Trump. As I have said many times before, I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Who are you going to vote for if it is Bernie, or Tulsi?

  32. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Aloha Bob, Brown would be a good fit for both Warren and Gabbard, not so much for any of the men, don’t know why his campaign for pres never got off the ground–skeletons (?).

  33. M
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I could get behind an Elizabeth Warren & Sherrod Brown ticket.

  34. Meta
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    CNN: “Schumer calls for hearings and subpoena over whistleblower complaint”

    Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer sought to turn up the pressure Monday on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans by outlining a plan for how he wants Republicans to investigate a whistleblower complaint that has sent shockwaves through Washington.

    In a letter to McConnell on Monday, Schumer writes that he is calling on the majority leader and Senate Republicans who control the chamber to “take immediate action to stop President Trump from withholding an Intelligence Community whistleblower complaint that by law must be transmitted to Congress, and to begin an investigation into the Administration’s handling of security assistance to Ukraine.”

    Schumer calls for hearings “to determine exactly what prompted the whistleblower to file this urgent complaint,” and says they should feature testimony from a host of administration officials, including acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Schumer also calls for testimony from Trump’s private attorney Rudy Giuliani.

    Schumer also states that a subpoena should be issued “to compel the delivery of the whistleblower complaint to Congress, as required by law.”

    Read more
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/whistleblower-complaint-chuck-schumer-senate/index.html

  35. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Aloha, the one strategic problem with Brown is that he will still have 4 years in the Senate. Ohio has a Republican Government–the Democrats would lose a seat in the Senate.

  36. John Brown
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    dd,

    When the UAW endorses somebody other than Tulsi are you going to get onboard? Or are you just looking for a Jill Stein disruptor redux candidate? What kind of reaction to Tulsi do you get from the rank and file UAW? Do you actually talk to any active rank and file?

  37. Sad
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Why not Mayor Pete?

    He’s got support and knows how to raise money.

    He’s been attacking the republicans since the moment he got in the race.

  38. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Aloha Brother JB, Yes I talk to “rank and file” workers on the line all the time. You do not know how the UAW engages in electoral endorsements. Local V-CAP committees will make recommendations to the Local Executive Boards who may or may not issue endorsements. Local and International Office holders can make personal endorsements. The UAW International Union both in its various Regions and as the International can make endorsements. In the 2016 primaries there were endorsements for both Hillary and Bernie. After the nominees for President are determined then an actual endorsement for that office will be issued. Like I have said a dozen times, I am voting for the Democratic Party nominee. I have not heard the same from you or JH when I have asked that question if Bernie or Tulsi are the nominees.
    Rank and file UAW folks, if they have a current opinion of a Presidential candidate, its Bernie. Office holders and UAW “officialdom folks” are split, like on this page.

  39. John Brown
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    DD, I also will support any Democrat nominee. And I’m not worried about it being Tulsi. AFL-CIO will be having lots of locals reject the national endorsement and offer independent endorsements if they jam another unpopular premature endorsement like they did with Clinton.

  40. Bob
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    I like Stacey and (maybe) Mayor Pete but this notion that they are in any way ready to step into the presidency is pretty crazy. It would be nice to have a black woman on the ticket but she’s not ready. Kamala doesn’t seem to be doing anything but sinking either. I thought all along that Sherrod Brown was one of the best potential candidates. I’m sorry he didn’t stick it out longer. I’ll bet he wished he had.

  41. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Dad

    https://youtu.be/ar2zKXoHNUU

  42. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Haha, damn! The President fucked Uncle Joe and the fake news up and so easily. I knew about this Biden Ukraine/China shit a long time ago. It pays to pay attention.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176219043965079552

  43. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Huh! I wonder how many in Michigan and the USA did not get caught doing the same thing.

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/23/southfield-clerk-sherikia-hawkins-election/2419363001/

  44. iRobert
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Uncle Joe’s gonna be just fine.

  45. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    He was going to be if Hillary won. Imagine if one of Donald Trump’s sons did something like the crack smoking Hunter Biden landing a job at a Ukrainian energy company making a million bucks with no experience right after Joe met with Ukraine. Then! Then! Joe tells them to fire the prosecutor investigating the company or they won’t get their billion dollars and they do it. It’s beyond belief. Not to mention Hunter’s China deal.

  46. Sad
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    What?

    Biden’s kids are crack heads?

    Q knows all!

    I wish the aliens had put an implant in my brain so I could get secret messages.

  47. Sad
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Common knowledge apparently.

    This is an outrage!

  48. iRobert
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    There’s a new standard thanks to Trump and his supporters. Nobody is going to care about any such accusations. Biden might as well start fucking porn stars and paying them off. We live in a brave new world.

  49. iRobert
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    One of the reasons Warren is picking up steam is because she comes across as a decent person. Many folks are getting sleaze-fatigue. We’re going to see a bit of a backlash. Thank you, EOS.

  50. iRobert
    Posted September 23, 2019 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    EOS: “Another 5 years of this obstruction of the Trump administration will be disastrous for the Democratic party.”

    Do you mean like it was for the GOP in obstructing Obama from day one? That didn’t seem to cost them much. I doubt it will cost the Dems either.

    EOS: “What have the Dems accomplished recently?”

    Very little obviously. They have only had control of the house, and only for 9 months. They’ve also had their hands full dealing with one crisis after the next generating from this nutty President.

    EOS: “How have they worked with this administration to make changes for the betterment of our country?”

    The little they have done has been at odds with the administration.

    EOS: “How have they earned their salaries?”

    Almost exactly the same as your beloved Republicans have, by political posturing and selling out the public.

    EOS: “Nothing to show but anti-Trump smears that are not backed up by the evidence.”

    Not much anyway. Still, it’s just about identical to what your hero Republicans did from 2009 through 2016, and which you so fervently supported. So, your complaining now carries no weight. In the same way it won’t when you are whining about a degenerate clown being in the White House because they’re a Democrat.

  51. EOS
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 5:18 am | Permalink

    We’ll see. When the dust settles, Biden’s son will be charged, Biden himself will no longer be a candidate, Trump will still be President, and the Democratic Party will be out of power for years to come. Nothing new here since they promised to impeach him before Trump even occupies the office. None of the lies and smears have done anything but harden his support.

    Trump announced the release of the transcript 3 hours before Pelosi announced the impeachment and before any vote had been taken. There is no impeachment started without a vote. Wait for the details about the whistleblower’s bias and his lack of anything but heresay. Wait for the details of who gave him the false information. Trump has played you all again. Any investigation will uncover the real evidence that Biden and the Obama administration’s corruption. The IG reports are due any day.

  52. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 5:47 am | Permalink

    I will bookmark this post, EOS, and we’ll check back to see which of your expectations are proven accurate.

    I suspect you may be right that this impeachment process might not get far at all, but I also highly doubt there’s going to be any great exposure of corruption you see (only) on the Democratic side.

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