The insane Trump “fan fiction” of QAnon goes mainstream

If for nothing else, yesterday’s Trump rally in Tampa was noteworthy for it’s insanity. Not only did Trump fans surround CNN’s Jim Acosta, screaming “you’re a liar” and “traitor”, but, for the first time ever, it would seem, there was a significant contingent from the far right, conspiratorial fringe in the audience, brandishing their “We Are Q” merchandise, and thereby forcing the absolute insanity of QAnon into the mainstream.

Even though it’s something that’s been discussed here in the comments section quite bit, I’ve refrained from dedicating a post to the subject as it’s just so damned crazy. But, now that the New York Time, the Washington Post, and every other mainstream news source is scrambling to make sense of it, I thought that I’d better spend a little time on it, even though doing so makes me feel sick to my stomach… I don’t want to believe that there’s significant percentage of my fellow American citizens out there who believe, among other things, that the Mueller investigation is really targeting Hillary Clinton, and that Donald Trump was recruited to run for President by the military in order to keep international financiers (Jews) from taking over the country, but I don’t suppose there’s any hiding from it now.

Qanon, for those of you who haven’t heard of it before, is essentially the rat king of conspiracy theories, a diseased, multi-headed rodent monster, held together by shit. As NBC’s Ben Collin’s explains, it’s “like Pizzagate on steroids, but it’s really both emotionally and socioeconomically Pizzagate on bath salts.” It’s like fan faction for more delusional members of the far right, where every crazy idea they can possibly imagine can find a home. It’s a framework for making sense of an increasingly confusing world that allows for Tom Hanks being a pedophile, Hillary Clinton drinking the blood of babies, and JFK Jr. not only being alive, but directing the patriotic assault against the so-called “deep state.”

Here, to give you a sense of what we’re talking about here, is a bit of video from NBC News. [A longer version can be found at Mediate.]

And here’s a little something from today’s New York Times:

Those watching President Trump’s rally in Tampa on Tuesday couldn’t help but be exposed to a fringe movement that discusses several loosely connected and vaguely defined — and baseless — conspiracy theories.

In one shot on Fox News, the president was partially obscured by a sign in the crowd reading “We Are Q.” In another shot during the president’s speech, a sign promoting the debunked Seth Rich conspiracy theory, with the hashtag #Qanon, came into focus in the center of the screen. Some attendees wore T-shirts with a blocky Q. Others held up signs with the letter.

They were all self-described “followers of Q,” an anonymous person or group of people who claim to be privy to government secrets. That supposedly classified information has been revealed on the 4chan and 8chan message boards and spread around mainstream internet platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Q has attracted people — the exact number is hard to know — eager to consume his “bread crumbs,” or new details in a sprawling web of conspiracy theories.

…Ben Decker, a research fellow at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard, described followers of the QAnon narrative as “an interactive conspiracy community”…

The Daily Beast:

…It’s there, starting in October 2017, that an anonymous poster dubbed “Q” began leaving cryptic clues that Trump supporters used to construct an alternate interpretation of current events where Trump is constantly battling evil forces.

For QAnon believers, special counsel Robert Mueller isn’t really investigating the Trump campaign—he’s actually working with Trump to take down a cabal of deep-state plotters and pedophiles. Soon, QAnon fans believe, Trump will team up with the military to throw top Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into Guantanamo Bay.

But what QAnon believers actually believe in constantly changing. After taking advantage of the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich and promoting dangerous ideas like Pizzagate, QAnon supporters have found a new tragedy to exploit: the death of John F. Kennedy Jr., son of the late president.

Until July, QAnon supporters believed that “Q,” the anonymous online forum poster whose cryptic clues make up the conspiracy theory, was a high-ranking Trump administration official, or maybe even Trump himself. But now, a good portion of QAnon believers have become convinced that Q is none other than JFK Jr, even though he died in a plane crash nearly 20 years ago…

The Washington Post:

The prominence of the “Q” symbol turned parts of the audience into a tableau of delusion and paranoia — and offered evidence that QAnon, an outgrowth of the #Pizzagate conspiracy theory that led a gunman to open fire in a D.C. restaurant last year, has leaped from Internet message boards to the president’s “Make America Great Again” tour through America.

…But viewing their message boards, it’s clear that QAnon crosses a new frontier. In the black hole of conspiracy in which “Q” has plunged its followers, Trump only feigned collusion to create a pretense for the hiring of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is actually working as a “white hat,” or hero, to expose the Democrats. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and George Soros are planning a coup — and traffic children in their spare time. J.P. Morgan, the American financier, sank the Titanic.

…In the world in which QAnon believers live, Trump’s detractors, such as Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin, wear ankle monitors that track their whereabouts. Press reports are dismissed as “Operation Mockingbird,” the name given to the alleged midcentury infiltration of the American media by the CIA. The Illuminati looms large in QAnon, as do the Rothschilds, a wealthy Jewish family vilified by the conspiracy theorists as the leaders of a satanic cult. Among the world leaders wise to satanic influences, the theory holds, is Russian President Vladimir Putin.

QAnon flirts with eschatology, fascist philosophy and the filmmaking of Francis Ford Coppola. Adherents believe a “Great Awakening” will precede the final storm foretold by Trump. Once they make sense of the information drip-fed to them by “Q,” they will usher in a Christian revival presaging total victory.

The implication is that resolving the clues left by “Q” would not just explain Trump’s planned countercoup. It would also explain the whole universe…

So, no, the craziest thing in Tampa yesterday wasn’t Donald Trump talking about how people need photo IDs to buy groceries in the United States. Not by a long shot…

This is what happens when madness goes unchecked… when Donald Trump goes on InfoWars with Alex Jones, who calls the child victims of Sandy Hook “crisis actors”… when Roseanne Barr, a Qanon devotee, gets a network television show… when the head of the FCC is making dancing videos with Pizzagate proponents… when we allow the administration to take us down the “alternative facts” rabbit hole… when we give airtime to race-baiters to discuss “birtherism“… when we put science aside in the discussion of global climate change… when we allow our President to shout down facts he doesn’t like as “fake news”… when social media channels refuse to step in and do something.

I don’t know what the solution is, but we need to do something, and we need to do something now, before irreparable harm is done to the fabric of our civil society, assuming, of course, we haven’t already passed the point of no return.

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213 Comments

  1. Eel
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    I thought QAnon was bullshit until I heard that JFK Jr. was behind it. Now I’m trying to keep an open mind about it. He seems pretty solid.

  2. Eel
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    The “”guy sitting on their bed who weighs 400 pounds” that Trump likes to talk about really does exist. He didn’t hack the election, though. He’s behind QAnon.

  3. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    This is a typical response. Call it “all” a conspiracy. Link what is true to a large amount of extraneous crap that can be easily refuted and then throw everything out. But, if you don’t comprehend that the Federal Reserve is designed to profit a very few number of International bankers then you can’t be helped.

    The Federal Reserve is not even a part of our government. After the appointment of a director, the government has no oversight. And all of it (the Fed) is unconstitutional. They call it the “Federal Reserve” to make it sound as if it is a part of our government. It’s all smoke and mirrors to mislead the gullible.

  4. Matt Roush
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Increasingly I fear that point of no return has been passed. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there is an actual civil war between Trump supporters and the reality-based community.

  5. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    It’s not the Trump supporters who are denying reality. Take a good look in the mirror.

  6. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Q Anon is now # 4 on google trends. How long till it is #1? Even more Q signs and shirts at the televised rally tonight do you think?

  7. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    He sure seems to have no problem with it.

    http://qanonproofs.com/cameras-catch-trump-pointing-at-supporter-with-q-shirt/

  8. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    That sick feeling is just a lil preview of what is coming for you. I told you a long time ago now about Q. Now it’s getting big, huh? Proof I am a dangerous man as Jean Henry likes to say. Dangerous to the system you lie every day to protect. I know you think everything you believe is true so maybe you aren’t lying on purpose. You are just completely caught up in a lie so much bigger than you can imagine. It’s going to be okay I promise. Soon everyone will have a very different perspective on what Q is revealing.

    FISA is indeed the start. Certainly it is no nothingburger like people were chirping about here. FISA “brings down the house.”

    Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: c1bb83 No.2405745
    Aug 1 2018 23:36:07 (EST)
    FISA
    FISA
    FISA
    [20]
    Public disclosure.
    Impossible to defend.
    ILLEGAL.
    Re: MSM
    “Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.”
    Q

  9. Matt Roush
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Congratulations, Mark! You’ve attracted some Qanon nutters! How’d that Pizzagate thing work out for you, fellas?

  10. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    You think Pizzagate was debunked?

  11. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    EOS, you clearly have less of an idea of the purpose of the Federal Reserve than most people. It is true that it isn’t part of the government other than it was created by Congress and its directors are appointed by the President. And I get it that some of its activities, particularly the methods by which it controls interest rates, are pretty complex and hard to really understand. Still. it isn’t something nearly as shady as what people seem to think. It is a bank’s bank. Its purpose is to keep the money supply stable and also to help keep banks stable by ensuring they have adequate reserves. I think they have been doing a pretty good job with this in the 100 years or so that they have been in operation.

    I really dont think you are in a position to call anyone else gullible here, EOS since you seem to have started to believe some weird stuff simply because the fed isn’t part of the executive branch. But if that is really what worries you, your folks are in power. All it would take is an act of congress to bring it under more federal oversight if that is what you feel is needed.

  12. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Pizzagate was completely debunked.

  13. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Okay, Know-nothing Lynne. How do you figure?

  14. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Anyways, one of the problems with Freedom of Speech is that legally, people can talk whatever nonsense they want. I try to remember that one of the benefits of allowing people that freedom is that it keeps it public. So reasonable people can hear it and use their speech to call bullshit. If a fringe idea goes mainstream, it sucks and I have seen it happen but even when that happens, there is always the opportunity for reasonable people to speak up.

  15. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Did you ever look at Jimmy Comet’s instagram? Nope, just like all the people who claim it is debunked you don’t even know what it is about. You read a lot of things saying it is debunked because “there isn’t even a basement!” That’s a red herring. It’s about the odd pictures and messages posted by certain people especially James Alefantis who owns the shop.

  16. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    HW, You mean the conspiracy that Clinton was running a sex ring in the basement of a pizza place that doesn’t even have a basement? The one where several morons believed that shit and called the DC police department enough that they actually went to investigate? There is nothing happening there.

    What is happening is some people hate the Clintons so much that they will believe ANYTHING even without any evidence at all. That would be you, HW. You have no evidence. Just a belief. And that is the thing about beliefs. They don’t require facts or evidence. I don’t believe in God, Unicorns, Pegasuses, Centaurs, Fairies, or Leprechaun but I can’t prove that they don’t exist somewhere in the universe. Similarly, I can’t prove that the Clinton’s or the Trumps or anyone really isn’t operating some evil sex ring but am content to accept things as debunked if a reasonable search for evidence has been undertaken and has failed to turn up anything.

  17. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    I don’t think I saw any evidence Clinton was running a ring. Many of the people of interest are associated with Hillary Clinton though: Alefantis, Podestas, Silsby, others.

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    You think you have done a reasonable search? Problem with people like you is you bend so easily to media influence you have no ability to analyze information on your own. You never even looked at the pics that so many found disturbing yet you think you know enough because you read some things that say it’s debunked.

  19. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Lynne,

    The purpose of the Fed is to generate a perpetual stream of interest to International bankers. Why do the American people pay a significant portion of their tax dollars towards interest on a “debt” when Congress has the authority to print money. And every dime that we supposedly owe to the Federal Reserve is credited as an asset to the Fed and they can loan 9 times that value to other entities, and each subsequent loan is also determined to be an “asset” to the Fed. The more they loan out, the greater their assets grow, and the more loans they can make. The Fed does not want any country to pay off their debt, merely to continue to make the interest payments. For the same reasons it is not a good idea to max out your credit cards and make the minimum payment each month, it is not wise for our country to be so indebted to the Fed to the Fed that we can’t reduce the debt.

    I doubt you will be able to comprehend what I wrote. But I will say that the only good choice is to end the Fed and refuse to pay another dime of interest on our own money. I’m not in power and I never will be nor would I ever desire to be.

  20. Demetrius
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    I recently read the book “Fantasyland,” by Kurt Anderson. In it, he describes how America, has always been a culture in which many people have felt particularly free to reject whatever happens to be the predominant reality in favor of adhering to and promoting all manner of “alternative” worldviews. Beginning with the Puritans who founded the early colonies, the U.S. has typically been home to two completely different, yet oddly complementary, tendencies – at once a deeply traditional, conformist nation; but also one that has witnessed wave after wave of “unorthodox” movements – doomsday prophets, Christian revivalists, utopian visionaries, religious cult leaders, patent medicine hucksters, conspiracy theorists of all sorts .. not to mention the “beats,” hippies, believers in UFOs, Bigfoot, etc.

    Anderson also suggests that many particularly American institutions – Hollywood, theme parks, etc. – and even more recent inventions – slash fiction, conspiracies theories, etc., owe their genesis to Americans’ particular fascination with fantasy, and with constructing their own alternate realities.

    I’d like to think that much of the nonsense we’re witnessing lately (“Fake News,” “Pizzagate,” “Crisis Actors,” “QAnon,” etc.) is just the latest manifestation of this long tradition … but I’m concerned that the difference *this time* is that many of the traditionally reality-based institutions that have typically served as a counter-balance to these more outlandish theories – i.e. education, journalism, science, the rule of law, etc. – are at the same time being weakened and undermined.

    I’m also concerned about the seemingly growing numbers of American adults who are no longer engaging in these fantastic ideas just for novelty or entertainment value … but who genuinely can no longer discern between what is fact vs. theory, fact vs. emotion, credible vs. conspiracy.

    If a nation is to survive, it must have civic institutions that enjoy a substantial degree of credibility, and a critical mass of people (citizens) who are capable of absorbing and understanding “real” information and using that information to come to logical conclusions, and thoughtful decisions.

    When every opinion is equally valid, all institutions are suspect, and every crazy conspiracy theory has a valid place in public discussion, our democracy (and culture) begins to die.

    [code]<a href= [code]”Fantasyland” by Kurt Anderson[/code]

  21. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    @ Demetrius,

    So you blame the people for discerning that the institutions have violated our sacred trust and ineffectively tried to manipulate public opinion to conform to their political ideology? A generation of Americans have been taught to hate their own country – to what purpose, but to prepare them to refuse to defend it from attack.

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Problem is what you think is real is fake. Didn’t you ever see where when the “Iraqi People” toppled Saddam Hussein’s statue the media made it look like there were throngs of ecstatic Iraqis but when you see the panned out shot it was a relative handful clearly directed by US military? The media is infiltrated by the CIA and has been for a long time. If they tell the truth once in a while it is remarkable.

  23. Demetrius
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    I’m not saying there’s no such thing as actual conspiracies, nor that certain institutions (including government, and the news media) haven’t, at times, misled the public, resulting in a weakening of trust and legitimacy.

    What I AM saying is that when legitimate claims of wrong-doing get tangled up with the craziest, most outlandish fantasies, it becomes hard to take anything, or anyone, seriously.

    Questions about the Federal Reserve and the role it plays in our monetary system and economy are worth exploring and debating. The fantasy that a secret cabal of Clinton loyalists held child sex slaves hostage in the basement of a Washington D.C. pizzeria is not.

    Considering how elements of the mainstream media have, at times, misled the public by misrepresenting key information, or acting as “stenographers” for government officials, is definitely worth exploring. Assuming that all major media are simply extensions of the CIA, or some kind of top-secret mind-control experiment is not.

    Do you understand the difference?

  24. Anonymous
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Mark, for lifting up the rock and letting us see what lives beneath.

  25. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    What if it is not a fantasy, ‘Deem? Basement red herring notwithstanding. What if there is a cabal that is involved in child sex and even worse? Look at Jimmy Savile. He was best buddies with Prince Charles!!! Pret-ty high up there I would say. Look for yourself and give me a fucking break!

  26. Sad
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Does these mean you’re not going to go to Electablog?

  27. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    That site looks horrible. It has to be one of the ugliest looking sites around.

  28. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    EOS, I can comprehend what you wrote enough to see that someone has taken advantage of your ignorance to sell you a pack of lies. If you want to know the purpose of the FED, go read the The Federal Reserve Acts starting with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. I actually have a reasonable understanding of Economics that I picked up while getting a degree in the field. I know enough of how the fed works and what it does to pretty clearly see that you don’t really understand what is going on there. I get it though. They create money out of thin air and make it disappear too. It *IS* kind of nutty. I get it. Sure, it also is something put in place to help rich people but it actually helps everyone.

    I mean, seriously, did you just suggest that Congress print money to pay off the national debt rather than paying interest on the debt? Do you actually understand the implications of that? Yes, that is an option but it is a bad one. A *really* bad one. I don’t have time to go into all of the reasons why but the main ones are 1. The holders of the national debt are largely US Citizens who would be harmed directly if those interest payments were not made. 2. If congress printed money to pay the debt, it would result in inflation. Our debt is such that adding that much money into the money supply would likely result in serious hyperinflation and that would hurt EVERYONE.

  29. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Demetrius, that sounds like a good book! I think you are spot on but I like to keep hope that most people will continue to have faith in the institutions which keep us in check.

    HW, Re: “What if there is a cabal that is involved in child sex and even worse?”

    If there is, there is certainly evidence of it. I have trust too that the larger a group of people are who are keeping a secret, the less likely it is that the secret will be kept. Leaks will happen and they will result in investigations. Even ridiculous claims like Pizzagate resulted in an investigation. If there is an investigation, there will be evidence. I don’t think our government is competent enough to keep major secrets of the nature of a sex ring. I know government workers. I know government works with top secret clearances. I know they would be willing to whistle blow and risk losing their jobs if they uncovered a child sex ring. The more people who are in on a secret, the more likely that someone will spill the beans. That is just human nature.

  30. John Brown
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Agent Orange has weaponized insanity. Further proof he is an intentionally destabilizing foreign stooge. Up to this point in history humanity has largely recognized that insanity presents obvious perils to the individual and society. Now its being cultivated and directed against us. And like being cornered by a rabid racoon – beyond all hope of recovery – it must be immediately put down for the good of all.

  31. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    I did not suggest we print money to pay the debt. I suggested we stop all payments to the Fed and take back control of our money supply. The Fed has profited enough from our reckless spending. They buy our T-Bills and determine the size of our money supply. I suggest we let them hold their pieces of paper until hell freezes over. We could adopt a balanced budget requirement and only spend the money we have collected in taxes or tariffs. And the money that the government collects could once again pay for infrastructure needs. We don’t need the encouragement of the Fed to spend beyond our needs so that the rich can get richer.

  32. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Why don’t you read what Andrew Jackson thought about central banks?

  33. Anonymous
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    We looking be in a time of total lunacy. I fear for humanity.

  34. Anonymous
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    We looking be in a time of total lunacy. I fear for humanity.

  35. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Did Jimmy Savile not victimize all those many people the whole time he was appearing on the BBC and did he not have a relationship with Prince Charles? That alone ought to raise serious questions in anyone’s mind. If the British Royalty can keep a terrible secret why not US politicians? Charlie’s lil bro Prince Andrew was sued for making a sex slave out of a teenage girl on the infamous island that that Clinton’s loved so much they went there dozens of times. The C’s helped Laura Silsby out of being arrested for child trafficking out of post-earthquake Haiti…it starts to look bad quickly if you ACTUALLY LOOK and don’t use unreliable truisms to guide you.

  36. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    I think there is some valid argument for putting the Fed under more federal oversight but the Fed’s control of our money supply is largely the reason the United States has had such a stable currency for the past 100 years. Keeping them separate btw has benefits such as preventing politicians from using things like quantitative easing to pay for things. I am not opposed to a balanced budget requirement but wish we could stop voting for guys like Trump and our current congress who LOVE deficit spending such as the most recent tax scheme which has huge tax cuts for the rich and thus is increasing our deficit. We could use only the money collected in taxes and use it for things like infrastructure.

    I will read what Jackson thought about such things but as I think he was literally the worst American president, even worse than Trump, I am not sure how much weight I will give his opinions.

  37. Sad
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Oh no – now EOS is going to start talking about the evils of the 30 year mortgage.

    Did you hear about Electablog EOS? Don’t you want to expand your audience?

  38. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    By the way Q posted a link about Trump and the FED recently.

    !CbboFOtcZs ID: 142c4e No.2275151
    Jul 25 2018 00:43:52 (EST)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/trump-poised-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html
    Q

  39. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Then another post that included that one and this one.

    !CbboFOtcZs ID: 6532f9 No.2279465
    Jul 25 2018 10:18:14 (EST)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/23/strategist-mark-grant-trump-has-a-right-to-call-out-the-fed.html
    2+2 confirmations.
    Fast.
    We will never again be under their control.
    Q

  40. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    “the most recent tax scheme which has huge tax cuts for the rich and thus is increasing our deficit.”

    Oops. What was it you were saying about fact checking what I say? Turns out you are the bullshitter, huh Lynne?

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/income-tax-revenues-trump-tax-cuts-economic-growth/

  41. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Yes HW, you don’t have a clue. Trump has large deficits and no matter how some people want to spin that for those like you who don’t have the aptitude to understand complex issues, the facts are the facts. Here is a good place to actually fact check

    https://www.cbo.gov/about/products/budget-economic-data#3

    Ultimately, because there is a bit of time between macroeconomic policy implementation and the effects of those policies being felt, we won’t really be able to judge Trump’s policies for some years after he leaves office. We can only make projections based on how similar policies have affected the economy in the past. Like it or not though, our current good economy is most likely a result of Obama era policies and we won’t really know the true effects of Trump’s for years.

  42. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    The good news btw is that if revenue is up, it might get congress to make the tax cuts for those on the lower end of the spectrum more permanent.

  43. wobblie
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    The right wing fascistationist have had to go underground. Folks like Alex Jones are being sued for the libels and misinformation they have shared. I love Jones defense in the latest lawsuits down in Texas. ( Jones has been spreading the lie that Sandy Hook was a “deep state” plot and that the “victims” were crises actors. ) Jones is being sued by some of the family members of Sandy Hook victims. His defense is “No reasonable reader or listener would interpret Mr. Jones’ statements regarding the possibility of a ‘blue-screen’ being used as a verifiably false statement of fact, and even if it is verifiable as false, the entire context in which it was made discloses that the statements are mere opinions ‘masquerading as a fact.’”

    Jones like HW and EOS simply spout opinions and pretend they are “facts”. Like Goring (might have been Goebels or even Adolf said, if you repeat a lie often enough it will be taken as truth.

    The other part of the Jones defense I also like, ie. people who believe what I say are not reasonable people.

    As my daddy used to tell me, “Some times the only way you can deal with a mule is with a 2×4 upside the head.”

  44. wobblie
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Article on Jones lawsuit
    https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/alex-joness-attorneys-defamation-suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/

  45. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/19-reasons-why-the-federal-reserve-is-at-the-heart-of-our-economic-problems

  46. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know what the reality of Sandy Hook is but there are a lot of things that don’t seem to add up. Not that Q has talked about that.

    Alex Jones has been left behind for lying about meeting with Q and supposedly being told Q had been taken over. Q put the smackdown on him for it and now many long-time AJ listeners are now gone for good for trying to hijack Q.

  47. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    I’m telling you to actually read sources for yourself instead of posting some media outlet’s lame opinion about them so how am I the one not dealing in facts here? How can you try to make judgements about something you don’t know anything about?

  48. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/11-reasons-why-the-federal-reserve-should-be-abolished

  49. Lynne
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Jeez EOS, that sure is a good example of an article designed to sound plausible while essentially being completely wrong. Well, I assume it is completely wrong. I have only read the first two of the 19 items and they are so wrong that I assume the rest is. Wow though. Talk about someone taking advantage of people’s economic ignorance!

  50. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    You think critiquing Jones should do something to Q but you have no idea AJ is hurting big time. The most intelligent, energized people he counted among his audience are gone for good and it is all because of a post in which Q did not even use his name. Ditto for AJ’s buddy Jerome Corsi.

  51. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    “The Gilded Age saw the greatest period of economic growth in American history. After the short-lived panic of 1873, the economy recovered with the advent of hard money policies and industrialization. From 1869 to 1879, the US economy grew at a rate of 6.8% for real GDP and 4.5% for real GDP per capita, despite the panic of 1873. The economy repeated this period of growth in the 1880s, in which the wealth of the nation grew at an annual rate of 3.8%, while the GDP was also doubled.”

    Completely wrong how? Were the 20’s the fastest growth or the 50’s or what?

  52. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Evaporatin’ Lynne haha.

  53. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    https://mises.org/wire/how-fed-operates-—-and-why-its-problem

  54. EOS
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    https://mises.org/sites/default/files/The%20Case%20Against%20the%20Fed_2.pdf

  55. iRobert
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Mark: ”I don’t know what the solution is, but we need to do something, and we need to do something now, before irreparable harm is done to the fabric of our civil society, assuming, of course, we haven’t already passed the point of no return.”

    I agree, we need to do something. However, what I would mean in saying that would certainly not be what you’d think, I am sure.

    What you’re seeing isn’t something that’s going to cause harm. It’s just one very small expression of the harm which has already been done, and continues to be done. This is just the beginning, in that sense.

  56. Sad
    Posted August 2, 2018 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    I knew when I saw his name that iRobert would offer something reassuring.

    It’s so adorable that HW won’t post on Electablog because the visuals aren’t up to his standards.

  57. iRobert
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 5:07 am | Permalink

    Sad, I think it’s reassuring that life goes on regardless of how insane society as a whole gets. Sometimes it seems difficult for us to remember this. I know I personally have to periodically remind myself that most of what makes life meaningful and fulfilling has no reliance upon the sanity of society. Throughout history, regardless of what was going on politically and socially, people have been able to find genuine understanding and happiness in their personal lives.

    We might still have another brief period of relative thoughtfulness and calm, but it’s obvious our culture has been going very rotten for many years. Almost nobody seems at all aware of their own contribution to that. But we’ve all been a part of it. The damage that it’s done will inevitably express itself and play out.

    Consistent with the problem, everyone is way behind the curve – a curve of which they themselves are a part. It doesn’t bode well.

    But, like I said, hope and reassurance can always be found on the individual level, and in our personal and immediate environments. We can significantly impact our personal spheres and those of the people close to us.

    Genuine experiences and expressions of love and kindness are always our choice. We can always create a little bubble of authenticity, love, reason and decency.

  58. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    Pretty sure it is called eclectablog, Sad. That’s the one I looked at. Why should I go there? Why don’t you post on 8chan? You want to talk about eating people for lunch…even I don’t fuck with the chans…

  59. anonimal
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    @EOS
    I think people might be discounting some of your arguments against the fed w/o actually understanding its problems. However, the Eurozone crisis underscores for me the best reason why we need a central bank (one per country).

    Each gov’t in Europe has lost the ability to manipulate its own currency. Greece (and others like it) bring down Germany’s currency, so German goods are cheaper than they should be given the relative strength of their economy. Germany increases the value of the currency relative to Greece’s economic strength, which means its really hard to pay down their debts (this is true with or without austerity). If each country had its own centralized bank, economic growth would probably spread out through Europe more evenly, and countries would be able to take the steps they need to address their own problems. Instead of waiting for others to impose something.

    Giving up the fed drops the ability to manipulate currency directly. I was more sympathetic to your argument during the recession, I bought into many of the concerns that the fed’s actions would create run-away inflation. But none of that has come true, and I’ve realized that those things are only true if you assume that the country will stop making money at some point in the future. A decent analogy is a mortgage. It’s a bad decision to take on a mortgage when you are 60. Its not so bad a decision if you will be 30 forever and never die. Nations are in the 2nd position.

    Acting as a buyer of its own bonds didn’t change the appetite for American money, t-bills, and bonds in the future. If it did, there would have been signals in the rates on those, and we would have had to constrain supply.

    Also, not sure what this has to do with a internet troll on a kiddie porn sharing site.

  60. Jean Henry
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    About time Mark. Thank you. But had you covered this back when we were all talking about this here in comments, you could have been breaking news. Now the intensity of the Q phenomenon has been validated by major news outlets. But you read it here first.

    Just to be clear, HW was here for almost a year without acknowledging that his ideas were cribbed from QAnon. I discovered it. IL did more research, uncovering the whole adrenochrome, child abuse and lizard hand facet as well as a directive from Q himself that his followers infiltrate liberal blogs and disseminate his ideas slowly and gently at first to draw them in. A directive HW tried to follow. He was provoked by the few of us who contested his bullshit into revealing his true abusive and delusional and megalomaniacal nature. And so those of us who confronted him called us bullies and part of the problem and over all questioned whether HW’s delusions mattered. I guess they do. HW is all yours now, folks. Have fun. Good luck with that whole civility and empathy thing.

  61. Jean Henry
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Well that sentence got fucked up. “And so those of us who confronted him were called bullies and part of the problem by other commenters here who questioned whether HW’s delusions mattered.’

  62. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Jean, you have no idea what you are talking about. Someone chimed in with a comment about Q and I confirmed that I do read Q. You’ve never read Q and neither has Iron Derp. Q has never mentioned reptilians or aliens at all. The truth is you don’t understand Q and what people like you don’t understand you fear.

  63. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    “his true abusive and delusional and megalomaniacal nature”

    You are sick. You try to pin your own mental illness on others. Why do you even try it? It’s not like it means anything.

  64. Anonymous
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    The Q virus spread from Tampa to Pennsylvania.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2018/08/03/theres-a-virus-in-trumpland/

  65. Anonymous
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    WaPo: “There’s this theory out there that Trump’s real focus in the White House is uprooting a sex trafficking ring that involves the assistance of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and targets prominent Democrats. The theory originates from random, cryptic posts from someone called “Q,” who shares his insights to anonymous websites.”

    So, what happens to the Q Heads when Mueller recommends images eachment? Do they say that too was part of the plan?

  66. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think anyone is expecting image eachment at all, no. That would be a surprise.

  67. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    I have tried to bet people their names versus my name on this blog, anonymous but no one has taken me up on it. If you lose you have to change your name to whatever I want and vice versa. Say for a year. Careful – wobblie almost did it and would have lost on whether McCabe would be fired. I’m not sure if it is Mueller’s job to make such a recommendation though. If recommending impeachment is within the scope of his duties I would take that bet.

  68. Sad
    Posted August 3, 2018 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    I ‘ll bet my name. I’m tired of being Sad.

    What’s the bet?

  69. Jean Henry
    Posted August 4, 2018 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    HW- that was me who ‘chimed in with a comment about Q.’ I did so several times (with links) before you acknowledged that the theories and ‘research’ you had presented as your own were not yours at all.

  70. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 4, 2018 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    No it wasn’t, dumbass. Someone asked me about it months before your slow ass thought you had figured something out on your own.

  71. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 4, 2018 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    “…theories and ‘research’ you presented as my own…”

    Did I do that where not appropriate? How? I don’t think so. If you had taken the time to actually discuss what I wrote instead of going psycho every day you would have learned a lot more. You had a window into Q EARLY on and squandered it. Now you are just as far behind as you ever were.

  72. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 4, 2018 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    Another thing: Q started posting 10/28/17. I was posting here for a full year before Q posted at all. I talked about the significance of Mueller investigating Tony Podesta and the dissolution of the Podesta Group before Q made their first post. Q talks about things I have understood broadly for many years. Now it is being fleshed out to the maximum.

  73. Jean Henry
    Posted August 4, 2018 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    HW— please go find that comment. I may have missed it but I’m pretty sure it was me. Oh wait. You were on hiatus when I found out about Q. I have read quite a bit of Q and QAnon posts now. And read a lot about them. I’m not sure I missed much. They simply illuminated what you’d been talking about in larger context.

    I did not think Q arose out of a vacuum. He simply consolidated a bunch of ongoing conspiracy theories into a giant multidimensional one. And he leaves it loose enough to be interpreted differently by different people. He leaves out bits and pieces which creates a vacuum which most followers will fill with their own imaginations. That creates but in for the followers. And limits conflict. It’s very smart, even diabolical. I wonder if he/she/they have monetized it yet.

    It’s really too bad you didn’t get there first HW. You’d be famous and properly glorified right now if you’d just tapped into the zeitgeist. Instead you spend your time on a local blog where most readers simply laugh at you.

  74. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 4, 2018 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Jean, you don’t even know what YOU say from day to day let alone other people. You think I give a shit if derps like you laugh at me? It only makes it sweeter when I am correct and you are wrong wrong wrong AS ALWAYS.

  75. iRobert
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    The suggestion by Qanon folks that Trump was installed by a group of high-ranking military officials doesn’t seem to me all that far off, if at all.

    Indications are that Trump and his campaign had no knowledge of the key aspects of the simple but clever strategy which made the difference in swinging Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin.

    The huge and absolutely crutial urban GOTV operations in those states were sabotaged, and from the inside. Information which would have alerted the Clinton campaign to what was going on was effectively suppressed. Misleading data was fed to the national campaign to cover what was going on. None of this was known to the Trump campaign either. It was effectively covered right up until the polls closed in the eastern time zone.

    This action was creatively simple, yet sophisticated in a sense. Democrats who understand what was done would consider it incredibly diobolical. But really, it was simply a strategy which took advantage of what is the Democrats’ most glaringly obvious vaulnerability in these few key, big electoral states.

    It was essentially an illusionist’s trick – removing a most prominent and necessary feature which is right out in plain view, center-stage so to speak, while creating and maintaining the illusion that the feature remains in tact an untouched.

  76. Claude Taylor by proxy
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    I’ve been trying to figure out this QAnon thing. If the theory goes that Trump is actually working with Mueller to indict Hillary and Obama shouldn’t the Cultists be supporting Mueller? Help me out here.

  77. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    It’s a mass movement, not a cult. If Mueller has been pressed into service of the country to distract from the real investigation headed by Huber then I think everyone is going to be extremely happy. Remember Mueller is a Marine. Was Mueller eligible for the FBI job? If not, for what other reason might DJT have met with him the day before the special counsel was empaneled?

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/13/politics/trump-robert-mueller-fbi-director-interview/index.html
    “President Donald Trump interviewed Robert Mueller as a potential replacement for fired FBI Director James Comey the day before the former FBI director was named special counsel, a White House official said Tuesday.”

  78. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    iRobert, you think get out the vote initiatives were infiltrated and sabotaged by Trump’s white hats? Why?

  79. Even Michael Flynn Jr. thinks you’re crazy
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    This is going to sting. Yiu might want to sit down for a minute.

    Even Michael Flynn Jr. thinks you’re crazy.

    From his Twitter: I

    Folks, let me be clear.

    I have zero association w the whole “Q” conspiracy.

    While I’ve been mentioned alongside the #QAnon hashtag before, I’ve never taken it seriously.

    And you shouldn’t either.
    #MondayMorning

  80. iRobert
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I can only speculate on The Who and why.

  81. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Seems random, iRob. I don’t see how whatever you are referring to has to do with Q. Q indicated they disallowed election fraud in key areas. That is how Trump won.

  82. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    “Even Michael Flynn Jr. thinks you’re crazy.”

    Oh nooo! Mortal blow! This is the big one, Wheezy!!!

  83. Posted August 6, 2018 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    “This is the big one” was Fred Sanford.

    “Wheezy” was George Jefferson.

    How can we believe anything you say if you can’t even tell the difference between George Jefferson and Fred Sanford?

  84. Posted August 6, 2018 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    And, seriously, when a conspiracy theorist like Michael “Lock her up” Flynn Jr. decides to distance himself from you, it’s time for some serious introspection.

  85. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 6, 2018 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Oh, you finally got me! That’s probably a good sign that thirty years after ditching tee-vee I’m finally out of the media world. Flynn Jr.’s comment means nothing to me. Get ready. “FISA brings down the house.”

    Does 6 – 2 not = 4 around here or what?

  86. Little Nemo
    Posted August 7, 2018 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    This Qanon conspiracy in a lot of ways sounds like a rehash of the Elders of Zion… a conspiracy cooked up by the Russians over 100 years ago and heavily publicized by Henry Ford in the US.

    Buzzfeed has an article out yesterday suggesting that Qanon is modeling itself off an italian book published in 1999 called “Q”. The authors are a collective of anarchists that now call themselves the Wu Ming Foundation. They say the book was a prank through the Luther Blisset collective meant to cause cultural distruption.

    Well done, fellas, Well done.

  87. Lynne
    Posted August 7, 2018 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    I can’t respect anyone who mixes up Fred Sanford and George Jefferson.

  88. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 7, 2018 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Quite a reach there, lil neemer. It’s funny to see all the comments on Q by people who have never read a Q post in their life.

    Lynne, I would be worried if someone as backwards as you respected me. Surely that would be a bad sign.

  89. Eel
    Posted August 13, 2018 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    When you’re with Qanon, you’re with this guy.

    https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1787-pro-trump-conspiracy-theorist-accused-of-setting-california-on-fire/partners/43955

  90. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 13, 2018 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, cuz that’s Q.

  91. Eel
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Qanon exposed as grifters.

    Sorry, HW, but they weren’t really White House insiders.

    https://twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1029477599964213248

  92. Jean Henry
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Eel— nice. I figured someone had monetized it.
    HW will never admit he’s wrong though. He’ll start back peddling away from Q in 5,4,3, 2, 1…

  93. EOS
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    So how does that work? A person posts on 4chan and 8chan which are freely available. He drops hints and tells people to do their own research. If this guy is only known as numbers on an obscure website, how is he getting money from the people who read his posts for free? Sounds like you are promoting a conspiracy theory Eel.

  94. Jean Henry
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    This whole report on Catholic Priest abuse is unbelievably depressing and a solid reminder that moralism serves to cover more harmful dysfunction than it will ever remedy.

    Being gleeful for political reasons at the prospect of an imagined child sex ring take down is just bizarre. Of course accusations of human trafficking and other horrific behavior (vampirism etc) is used to energize the most insidious of conspiracy theories. What else could justify such obsessiveness, such blood lust for political revenge? It’s exactly why people paid so much more attention to the stormy Daniels, which was by all accounts consensual, than to the dozens of other sexual abuse charges against Truno.

    And somehow all this enpassioned moralism does not make any woman or child more safe ever. The greatest champions of women’s rights were also champions of free love doctrines. It’s no coincidence.

    God, the American puritanical streak is so tiresome and so persistent. It stands right alongside its propensity for violence. Especially sexual violence.

  95. Jean Henry
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Wrong page. Oh well. You all can figure out which post it belongs with.

  96. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    How can someone who never read Q think they can make me backpedal (not peddle lol)? I was looking at qanon.pub when Q accidentally revealed their trip code. Lots of people started posting random shit. How does that mean it is Pamphlet? It could turn out to be someone outside the Trump orbit but if that is the case then how does Q know when and what DJT is going to tweet before he does it?

  97. Jean Henry
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Ok more a scramble to explain rather than a back peddle. Figures.

  98. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Explain what? I do not see evidence Pamphlet exposed the trip.

  99. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Jean, you are so confused. People are happy to see evil stopped because they are good people , not republicans. Latest Q:

    Haiti
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTqqYCb-e8

  100. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    …continued

    [Read very carefully]
    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/sunday-nights-matt-doran-goes-undercover-with-operation-underground-railroad-to-bring-down-haiti-child-sex-ring/news-story/dcecf5950ca5b6d501c48ed927127bc3
    “Child trafficking victims who’ve spent their formative years servicing the carnal desires of men, often foreigners, who are three, four, five or six times their age. Their madam tells me that many of their customers are western humanitarian workers who’ve come here to help rebuild Haiti after the recent run of natural disasters.”
    The more you know…
    Q

  101. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Now who was in charge of the relief effort? Who put 90% of the money into NGO hands, not the people or government of Haiti?

  102. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 15, 2018 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Who rescued poor Laura Silsby and friends there in the vid from the Haitian authorities when they were arrested for attempting to “take 33 children from Haiti without authorization” (child trafficking)?

  103. Anonymous
    Posted August 20, 2018 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    The Traveling Wilburys have a pizzagate song.

    https://twitter.com/NickLutsko/status/1031574178137296897

  104. Ben Collins by proxy
    Posted August 22, 2018 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    The Qanon narrative no longer makes sense after today's verdict and plea deal, and the community is trying to come to grips with it. pic.twitter.com/qlwoQaQBUn— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 21, 2018

  105. Eel
    Posted August 24, 2018 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Trump invited a QAnon conspiracy theorist to meet with him at the White House.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-in-oval-office-meets-promoter-of-qanon-conspiracy-theory-that-says-democrats-run-pedophile-cult

  106. Jean Henry
    Posted August 25, 2018 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    That explains HW’s recent disappearance. He certainly asserted until called on it that all these theories were the product of his own ‘independent research’ and his ‘independent thinking.’ If he is right in all things as he has also asserted, then he must be Q.

  107. iRobert
    Posted September 19, 2018 at 4:46 am | Permalink

    I think you’re right, Jean. I was worried about HW, having not heard from him in a while. Naturally, I had assumed he overdosed.

  108. iRobert
    Posted September 24, 2018 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    What has Q said is behind this Cavanaugh situation?

    Now that we’ve lost HW, are there any other QAnon folks here that can step up and bring us up to speed?

  109. Jean Henry
    Posted September 24, 2018 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    HW is probably busy making death threats against Kavanaugh’s accusers if he’s still following his marching orders:
    “In the seediest corners of the internet, that meant a retaliation campaign that looked to discredit Ford’s entire family. On an 8chan board for QAnon, a sweeping right-wing conspiracy theory that claims all Donald Trump’s enemies are actually in a Satanic child trafficking ring, users posted Ford’s home address.

    Always eager to allege a vast, decades-long conspiracy, QAnoners pushed a theory that Ford was lashing out at Kavanaugh because his mother (also a judge) appears to have overseen a foreclosure case in the ’90s involving Ford’s parents. But the trolls’ own screenshots of court dockets revealed that the elder Kavanaugh had ruled in favor of Ford’s family, killing the conspiracy upon arrival.

    Nevertheless, the theory found its way to the pro-Trump blog America First Media (which is being sued for pushing wild conspiracies targeting the family of Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich). America First Media had previously paid for Facebook ads attacking Ford, and published this latest conspiracy about Ford’s family without noting its obvious flaws.

    “The list of coincidences continues, we’re sure this is just another one of those instances,” the blog wrote. “We’ll let you decide as we keep bringing you the truth America!””

  110. Jean Henry
    Posted September 24, 2018 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    HW is also probably in a deep mourning state because his ‘research’ has been stymied by multiple bans of conspiracy theory sites and threads on twitter and reddit. Where is a paranoid maniac supposed to go for fortification with vitamin rage these days? https://qz.com/1384432/reddit-banned-qanon/

  111. Jean Henry
    Posted September 24, 2018 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Apparently, the moment of truth is once again upon us. They are stoked about Rod Rosenstein and think Trump is about to show his hand… again.

    “And we are at attention. Awaiting orders. You have taught us discipline. You have reminded us to be patient. And now, we are at attention. Ready to mobilize in the thousands within minutes. The internet is not ready for this. Literally. Anywhere you send us, we are natural ddos.
    Within our ranks are some of the brightest minds, the kindest hearts, and the most ravenous of wolves,
    Everything you need to jumpstart the US and the world to the next frontier.
    Gives me goosebumps how much power we have.
    WWG1WGA”

    “What a truly incredible time in the History of the World to be alive and a part of the inner workings of the Great Awakening. The Patriotism and Bravery of all who have been on the front lines and the fringes, as Q has guided us into the wonderful time to see justice done and the world set right again. From the day Donald Trump Announced his run, I had hope like I have not had since they murdered JFK. Trust the Plan, Stay Together, WWG1WGA”

    WWG1WGA = Where we go one, we go all
    ddos= distributed denial of service cyber attack

    Twitter search of #Qanon is always amusing. I wish I had more time: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QAnon&src=tyah

  112. Ben Collins by proxy
    Posted December 7, 2018 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Ben Collins from NBC News:

    We are a little lucky to have Qanon for academic purposes—a real-time, extremely public view into how people degrade themselves into buying into what has become an actual doomsday cult.

    Unprecedented documentary evidence into radicalization—and how platforms failed to stop them.

    https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1071142151168368641

  113. Posted December 9, 2018 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Yup. Totally reasonable.

  114. iRobert
    Posted June 28, 2019 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Can I get somebody to do a welfare check on HW? We haven’t seen him in a while.

  115. iRobert
    Posted June 30, 2019 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    Ok, false alarm. HW’s ok. He just commented on another thread. Whew! I was worried for a bit there.

    Bu the way, are we certain that robotinteriors and HW aren’t one in the same?

  116. Q
    Posted July 4, 2019 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: c1bb83 No.2405745
    July 1 2019 23:36:07 (EST)
    Rain
    Rain
    Rain
    [20]
    Thunder
    Lightning
    SCARY.
    Re: MSM
    “So much weather. Such high temperatures.”
    Bikini season
    YOU’RE WELCOME
    Q

  117. Therese
    Posted July 15, 2019 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Any of you who think Dems are more honest and loyal than Reps are empty blindmen. Mental Midgets.

    BOTH SIDES ARE CORRUPT.

    The JEWISH CONTROLLED MEDIA NARRATIVE for American Consumption tries to make you think both sides are at odds but they both work for the Bolsheviks who have been invading America FOR DECADES and are destroying the US CONSTITUTION with all their FALSE FLAGS AND WARS

    The Dems try to force ON US communism using FAKE DEVOTION to civil rights and illegal immigrants who here for freedom but are deceived i to voting for politicians who aim to destroy us from within.

    The Dems also always shrink the military.

    ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are used heartlessly . to create a larger voting base for Democraps. THUS a conspiracy AGENDA FOR DESTROYING AMERICA FROM WITHIN.

    ON the other hand we have the REPUBLICANS Who always grow the MILITARY AND KEEP THE WAR MACHINE GOING keep the War Machine going to enrich the Jewish Bankers.

    They BOTH TAX AND SPEND AS IF AMERICA IS THEIR PERSONAL BAMK ACCOUNT.

    Both parties lead to impoverishment and loss if freedom.

    Stop acting like MENTAL MIDGETS and STOP thinking on party is better than the other.

    The TWO PARTY SYSTEM WAS CREATED ON PURPOSE TO DIVIDE US, leaving us vulnerable and poor, WITHOUT ANY POWER IN TIME.

  118. Q has Spoken!
    Posted January 2, 2020 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Tom Hanks makes shoes from baby skin!

    https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1212765596535918596?s=20

  119. Lanon
    Posted January 25, 2020 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    I know who Hyperion Warlord is.

    https://twitter.com/santiagomayer_/status/1221189515919839232?s=20

  120. iRobert
    Posted February 21, 2020 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    Lynne! Check out that link Lanon posted! It’s people! Happy meals is people!

    Can I get that welfare check on HW? EOS also. I need to be soothed with their reassurances about the actions Trump has been taking. I need to know how shutting down the US’s counterintelligence against Putin is ultimately for the good. Is Putin secretly America’s savior? Is Putin the messiah? Only EOS can tell us.

  121. iRobert
    Posted March 12, 2020 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    What is Q saying about COVID-19?

  122. John Galt
    Posted March 12, 2020 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    It’s common sense. The deep state had no choice but to unleash the coronavirus, as JFK Jr. and Donald Trump were getting too close to their secret underground child sex dungeons where Democrats feast of the flesh of babies prepared by the world’s greatest cannibal George Soros.

  123. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 12, 2020 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    No way, dude. Politicians wouldn’t do something like that. They are just regular people.

  124. iRobert
    Posted March 12, 2020 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    That explains it, JG. Still, I’m curious as to what the brilliant secret strategy is behind Trump and his administration putting on the appearances of being totally incompetent and incapable of even coordinating any consistent commentary.

    They’re really good actors. Observers are totally fooled into believing Trump really is a lost little mess and his skeleton crew of an administration scrambling around like keystone cops. No casual observer would ever suspect the truth – that they are fully in control and have every bit of this planned out.

    By the way, the stock market halted trading again just now. The Dow dropped almost 1,700 points right out of the gate this morning.

  125. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 12, 2020 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    “Still, I’m curious as to what the brilliant secret strategy is behind Trump and his administration putting on the appearances of being totally incompetent and incapable of even coordinating any consistent commentary.”

    That’s elementary; Art of War. Obviously Art of the Deal is based on it. Appear weak to your enemy when you are strong, appear disorganized when you are organized…

  126. Anonymous
    Posted March 19, 2020 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Q tells us: “Watch for traffic

    when crossing the road”

  127. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Has Qanon said why all those thousands of sealed indictments have not been unsealed?

    My assertion that they are actually an extortion racket for keeping key people in lockstep still stands.

  128. Anonymous
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Q tells us: “Watch the eastern sky

    to see the sunrise.”

  129. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Mmmmhhh

  130. Anonymous
    Posted May 15, 2020 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    Q tells us: “Tomorrow will be mostly cloudy

    with a high of 71 degrees”

  131. iRobert
    Posted July 21, 2020 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    Qanon looks like a psych-op meant to corral Internet conspiracy theorists into a mass which can be controlled and directed.

  132. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted July 21, 2020 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Why would you talk about what Q sounds like when you don’t read Q?

  133. iRobert
    Posted July 21, 2020 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    HW: “Why would you talk about what Q sounds like when you don’t read Q?”

    Q talked about the tens of thousands of sealed indictments, right? But hasn’t explained what has happened with that, correct?

  134. Posted August 12, 2020 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Marjorie Taylor Greene, a QAnon Supporter, Wins House Primary in Georgia

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/us/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-georgia-primary.html

    (From The New York Times)

  135. Posted August 20, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Great going’: Trump praises right-wing activist Laura Loomer after her Florida GOP primary win

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/19/trump-laura-loomer-primary-gop/

    (From The Washington Post)

  136. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    “But hasn’t explained what has happened with that, correct?”

    Interesting question. I think the posts referencing what will happen when The Storm hits explain it well. Having actually read Q it is odd to talk to someone who hasn’t read any Q but has such a…strong view of what Q is.

    Q has said there are so many cases the courts would not be able to handle it in a reasonable time frame if at all. Military tribunal will be the way. Remember the EO on courts martial? Might want to check that out if you think civilians cannot be tried by the military. Evidence will be presented to the public that the perps will be unable to deny. *Gitmo TV*

  137. Wobblie
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    They planning military trials for the Trump fan fraudsters? How much did you give?

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands

  138. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    I would think a regular trial would work just fine for that.

  139. iRobert
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Like any answer one would expect from cultists. Endless excuses for everything.

    There will be no mass arrests or mass military trials.

    What I’ve seen of Q is about as much as I’ve seen of any other major cult-scam over the many years. It’s similar to the Lyndon LaRouche political cult.

  140. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think there is anything that requires an excuse. You want to know why there are no mass arrests by now but there was never a timeline given. It’s going to take as long as it takes. You can’t just fire off a world-changing operation with no planning. Q let us know this was the case early on.

  141. EOS
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Why is everything re: ‘Q’ being censored, banned, and attacked? I’ve never seen any other “cult or scam” that drew so much opposition.

  142. iRobert
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    All I can go on is what I’ve observed over the many years, and I’ve heard the same sort of claims from Lyndon LaRouche followers. None of it amounted to anything. The thousands of sealed indictments has looked to me like extortion rackets I’ve seen many times on a bit smaller scale, and so as time goes by that’s increasingly what it appears to be to me.

  143. EOS
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Just like Lyndon LaRouche, except not Democrats or Communist or untrue.

    And what sort of claims do you think they have in common? Did LaRouche want to restore freedoms so that capitalism could flourish? Were LaRouche followers Patriots who wanted law and order and criminals brought to justice? Don’t See much in common with communism in the Q posts I have read.

  144. Anonymous
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    You’re a great poster EOS, never log off

  145. iRobert
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    EOS: “Just like Lyndon LaRouche, except not Democrats or Communist or untrue.”

    Well, Lyndon LaRouche was a fascist, but you’ve said you think communism and fascism are the same thing. Just for your information, words aren’t defined by you. They have actual definitions you can look up.

    LaRouche chose to put himself in for the nomination of the Democratic Party, but was rejected by the party and it’s supporters in every way. His attempt failed completely.

    The mass arrests which were promised years ago, never happened. That would qualify as “false” and not “true.”

  146. iRobert
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    The Lyndon LaRouche cult was just a psych-op intended to corral and manipulate toward political ends people with mental problems. In that way it’s exactly like Q. It’s taken to a new level with the Internet.

  147. EOS
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Sure, just like LaRouche, except Trump ran a successful campaign and succeeded to get elected to the complete befuddlement of the left, many of whom will be completely surprised when the indictments are executed.

    https://theobjectivestandard.com/2012/06/political-left-and-right-properly-defined/

  148. Posted August 20, 2020 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Communism vs. Fascism

    https://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Fascism

  149. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    “The Lyndon LaRouche cult was just a psych-op intended to corral and manipulate toward political ends people with mental problems. In that way it’s exactly like Q. It’s taken to a new level with the Internet.”

    I don’t see the point of mindless pronouncements. You are more sure Q is false than I am that Q is true but your knowledge of Q is insignificant in comparison to mine. Not a good side of the equation to be on.

  150. iRobert
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    I have asked you questions about Q, and you generally don’t respond. All I have to go on is what I have read from self-proclaimed Q believers.

    Did Q say tens of thousands of indictments would be unsealed? If yes, when was the earliest this claim was made?

  151. EOS
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    According to Diffen, a wiki based in Seattle. The same people who bring us peaceful protests that kill people and destroy property to create an anarchy where communism can take root.

    Which current communist nation doesn’t have all the power wielded by a small group of fascists?

  152. Jean Henry
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Anybody else catch this today?
    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/20/904237192/journalist-enters-the-world-of-qanon-it-s-almost-like-a-bad-spy-novel

    I’m in Alabama on my way to a Family funeral in New Orleans. (Please, bring on the condemnation from Trump supporters about how selfish and irresponsible I’m being… Laughable) I’ve seen 2 cars so far covered in Q conspiracy theory scrawls and links supposedly about child sex trafficking. The journalist above who has spent as much time as HW studying Q asserts that it is not an independent right wing co spit at theory but follows Trump’s lead consistently— that it’s a Trump supporting conspiracy theory only. That’s it’s reason for being. Who needs Facebook?

    Trump doesn’t have much time left to bring the storm… I wonder what the hold up is??

  153. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 20, 2020 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    What have I not answered about Q? The sealed indictments started piling up on pacer.gov around the time Q started posting on 10/28/17. One post said “Do you know what 50,000 indictments looks like?” There have been a lot of posts that relate to that. Do your due diligence and look it up. Then you can begin to know what you are talking about.

    https://qanon.pub/?q=indictments

  154. iRobert
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 5:47 am | Permalink

    I don’t bother much with crackpot cults. If I have any questions about them, I ask someone else who has bothered.

    Cultists are evasive and vague in their responses to any questions about detail. They always suggest you read through the bullshit that hooked their weak mind, I assume thinking you’ll be magically suckered and drawn into the same fantasy. I always just find out it’s a waste of time.

    Cultist suckers come and go. You usually don’t have to wait long before they become frustrated by their prophesies not coming to fruition.

    Are there any former LaRouche cultists who read this blog that can shed some light on what happens after it become apparent obvious you’ve been had? I’d be interested in a sort of “Where are they now?” update from you, or the former followers of any other similar cult.

  155. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    I think if you can’t be bothered to learn about something but you still hate it and hate others for doing so then you are not doing so well.

  156. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    It says a lot that you claim I don’t answer things that I do answer but you don’t want to know. You don’t have any questions. You only have attacks. Problem is without knowing what you are talking about you are stabbing in the dark. You sound disturbed.

  157. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    Is it not the essence of ignorance to berate someone for what you think they believe but then deliberately refuse to know anything about it. I consider that a betrayal of reason and by extension humanity itself.

  158. iRobert
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    I’m just sharing my experiences and observations regarding cultists and their odd behavior. I’m not making any argument about anything.

    The LaRouche cultists were interesting to talk with, and the Qanon folks remind me of them.

  159. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    You are saying Q is a cult.

  160. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    But you won’t read Q therefore you practice ignorance.

  161. iRobert
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    The LaRouche cultists came across as mentally ill. I read a little of the materials they would hand out downtown occasionally. But the lunacy of what I read quickly made it all seem of little interest or use in learning about.

    Anybody who can’t see what Trump obviously is has some sort of problem. Perceiving him the way the Q folks claim is simply bizarre. This cultist fantasy will evaporate just like all previous ones have. The sanity challenged folks it appeals to will find some new thing to be crazy about soon enough.

  162. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Q isn’t LaRouche so I don’t know what you think you are doing trying to equate them.

  163. iRobert
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    The Q thing is a psych-op, and it appeals to people who have cultist personalities. It’s just a manipulation of folks who are a bit unbalanced.

  164. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Again I don’t see the point of making ignorant decrees in the realm of reality as if you are a king. If you can’t talk about anything substantial your opinion doesn’t mean much.

  165. Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Q appeals to guys like this crackpot…

    From the Washington Post:

    Engineer intentionally crashes train near hospital ship Mercy, believing in weird coronavirus conspiracy, feds say

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/02/train-derails-usns-mercy-coronavirus/

  166. Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    I’m just sharing my observations. They’re nothing more than that. I’ve seen these crackpot movements come and go, each replaced by a new one as it declines.

  167. iRobert
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Is there some particular thing to read from Q that you feel is the key for you finding it legitimate?

  168. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    You are going to have to eat those observations. I don’t think saying the most horrible things about people you do not know and refuse to understand and then being like “I’m just sharing my observations” is any way to live. It’s not going to work much longer. This is going to go the same way as the Mueller report but way way WAY bigger.

  169. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    “Is there some particular thing to read from Q that you feel is the key for you finding it legitimate?”

    You asked me about indictments. I put up numerous posts containing the word using the search function on an aggregate site. You said that would be a waste of time. Seems you are going in circles.

  170. iRobert
    Posted August 21, 2020 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Is Q saying anything about charges coming against Jared Kushner?

  171. Posted August 24, 2020 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    From NBC News:

    How QAnon rode the pandemic to new heights — and fueled the viral anti-mask phenomenon

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-qanon-rode-pandemic-new-heights-fueled-viral-anti-mask-n1236695

  172. iRobert
    Posted September 10, 2020 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    aka Insane Clown Posse…

    Juggalos

  173. iRobert
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie posted this link to a more current thread. I figured it would make more sense being posted to this one.

    From Bloomberg:

    QAnon Website Shuts Down After N.J. Man Identified as Operator

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-11/qanon-website-shuts-down-after-n-j-man-identified-as-operator

  174. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t know it is considered that bad to be from New Jersey!

  175. iRobert
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Jason Gelinas appears to be a Trumpanzy.

  176. wobblie
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    On his now-deleted LinkedIn page, Gelinas says that works as a security analyst for Citigroup. He has been with the finance giant since 2003. Previously, Gelinas worked in a similar role with Credit Suisse. On that profile, Gelinas says that he is graduated with a bachelor of arts in information systems from Fordham University and an MBA from the same school.

    Sounds like an operative for the Banking industry. Wonder how much they paid him for running this misinformation campaign.

  177. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    There is no “Qanon site.” Q posts exclusively on 8kun.com. Qmap.pub is just one of the aggregate sites that takes all the Q posts and puts them together on one page.

  178. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    8kun.net that is.

  179. wobblie
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for clearing that up. Just like the Leader you cannot help but tell the truth. I notice how you make no protest or rebuttal that he was operating a misinformation site. The fact that he aggregated misinformation onto one site does not obliviate the misinformation, nor that he was probably doingthis in his capacity as CitiBank security analyst.

    Why do you think a major financial bank would be spreading misinformation? I assume like all clever operatives he mixed legit information in with the false. Do you think slow witted folks like me are able to tell the difference? It’s like reading tea leaves, you need a gypsy or some one like you to cipher out the meaning.

  180. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 12, 2020 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    What do you think is misinformation? Why should I answer to some ignorant doofus’s feelings? How could there be a whole cadre of you fuckers that operate like this? You know nothing of what you hate.

    Q has been right on the money too many times for it to be nothing. How come I was correct from the start about YOUR big fuckin’ deals that you said I was crazy about like Mueller and phony Russian collusion evidence and impeachment failing to remove the President? How come I knew prominent spygaters before everyone knew them from the media? Why was I confident McCabe would be fired?

    Q proofs are quite something to get into. I would talk about it more but the only ones who have demonstrated the capacity to understand it are FF and EOS.

  181. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 13, 2020 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    You don’t even know yet you had to change your name for six months because you bet against Q. Pretty fuckin’ wild how misinformed you are especially considering you are calling Q misinformation but keep getting smoked over and over by Q knowledge.

  182. wobblie
    Posted September 13, 2020 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Thank you for the well thought out educational response.

  183. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 13, 2020 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    You are welcome. Now learn.

  184. Posted September 17, 2020 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Lynne just posted this article on a more current thread. I figured it should be shared here for reference purposes.

    QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded

    https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/

    From justsecurity.org

  185. iRobert
    Posted October 1, 2020 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    I’m operating a phone bank where we are calling registered Republicans in the Ypsilanti area and making sure they’re voting for Q-endorsed candidates. A lot of them don’t seem to know about Q and the “great awakening,” so we’re sharing all the details.

  186. iRobert
    Posted October 5, 2020 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    What has Q been saying about the President’s hospitalization? Why is he being given experimental drugs? He doesn’t really have anything more than a flu, right?

  187. Posted October 14, 2020 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    What’s Q sayin’ now?

  188. Posted October 20, 2020 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    Our Q-cultists have dropped the ball. They won’t keep us up to speed on all the latest Q droppings.

    EOS is kind of pensive about it for some reason.

    HW is too focused on recruiting us. He won’t just share the wisdom.

    We need better Q-reps. FF, are you willing to help us out here?

  189. Posted October 23, 2020 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Has Q ever mentioned the pedophile network in the Catholic Church?

    At least 454 priests accused: Michigan reveals ‘startling’ clergy abuse report

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/23/454-priests-accused-michigan-clergy-probe/3731872001/

  190. Posted October 26, 2020 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    QAnon Followers Are Hijacking the #SaveTheChildren Movement

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/12/technology/qanon-save-the-children-trafficking.html

    “Fans of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory are clogging anti-trafficking hotlines, infiltrating Facebook groups and raising false fears about child exploitation.”

  191. Anonymous
    Posted October 26, 2020 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KeatonPatti/status/1319655073492893697

  192. Jean Henry
    Posted October 27, 2020 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    IRobert— I shared that NYT link 2 weeks ago… Keep up.

  193. Jean Henry
    Posted October 27, 2020 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Clearly you don’t seem enough time here, iRobert.

  194. Posted October 27, 2020 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    I saw that when you shared it two weeks ago, Jean. I thought about mentioning that, but didn’t want to drag you in to an exchange. I often repost things over and over because people here have short memories or think they can wish facts away. I like to remind people that they can’t.

  195. Posted October 27, 2020 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    When HW brings up a topic, he needs to be destroyed over and over. It’s my pleasure to do the honors.

  196. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 27, 2020 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    I already exposed the big trafficking hotline that keeps trying to dog out Q as funded by the Clinton Foundation. You are deluded.

  197. Posted October 27, 2020 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, HW, you seem like you’ve done a lot of work on the child sex abuse problem. You’re impressive.

  198. Posted October 27, 2020 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Those terrible Clinton’s, funding a child trafficking hotline. What monsters.

    Fortunately we have heroes like HW doing all the heavy lifting.

  199. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 27, 2020 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    I’m not trying to impress anyone. What a weak insinuation. What is the point of saying things like that?

    The Clinton’s protected child trafficker Laura Silsby who was caught taking 33 children from Haiti without any kind of permission. Why would she be doing that behind the Haitian governments back and why would the Clinton’s feel it was necessary to get her out of trouble? Silsby was rewarded with a job in an “anti” trafficking org after this!!!

  200. Posted October 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    I wonder what EOS thinks about HW spouting this kind of anti-christian propaganda. But I guess Baptist missionaries could also be child predators just like Catholic priest.

    The New Life Children’s Refuge case was a legal case about an incident which occurred in the chaotic aftermath of the January 12th 2010 Haiti earthquake. On January 29, 2010, a group of ten American Baptist missionaries from Idaho attempted to cross the Haiti-Dominican Republic border with 33 Haitian children. The group, known as the New Life Children’s Refuge, did not have proper authorization for transporting the children and were arrested on kidnapping charges. The missionaries denied any wrongdoing and claimed that they were rescuing orphans and leading them to a Dominican hotel which was being transformed into an orphanage. Thanks in part to intervention on their behalf by former US President Bill Clinton, nine of the ten missionaries were later released but NLCR founder Laura Silsby remained incarcerated in Haiti. By the time she went to trial on May 13 the charges had been reduced to “arranging irregular travel” and the prosecution sought a 6-month prison term. On May 17, she was found guilty and sentenced to the time served in jail prior to the trial.

  201. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 27, 2020 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    A lot of people use religion as a shield. A lot of people use it to gain access to children. I’m sure EOS understands that.

  202. Wobblie
    Posted October 27, 2020 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Idaho Baptist Missionaries sound like EOSs kinda folks. But when your a fascists you don’t really care who you libel with your slime. Elder of Zion baby killing conspiracies have always been the life blood of the death cult.

  203. Posted November 1, 2020 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    Wobblie destroyed you on your Silsby claim, HW.

    Of course, you’ll just stop talking about it. That way you can pretend you didn’t just have your stupid ass handed to you. You can go on kidding yourself that you’re beatin’ dat ass.

  204. Posted November 2, 2020 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    I want to take a moment to thank HW and EOS for their dedication to the Qanon fantasies. It’s been a great comfort to me to see lunatics representing the Republican side in this election season. Please stick around. Keep sharing the nutty bullshit. Don’t lose that fire.

  205. iRobert
    Posted November 4, 2020 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Can I get someone to do a welfare check on HW and EOS?

  206. Posted November 6, 2020 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    HW, EOS, FF,

    Finally something on which we can work together…

    Let’s get Trump anointed chairman of the Republican National Committee, and we can begin the work of getting him elected back to the Presidency in 2024.

    Let’s get to work!

  207. Posted November 6, 2020 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    HW watched a crackpot video about watermarks in ballots and a massive sting operation masterminded by the brilliant Donald Trump.

    Now he thinks he’s got the inside scoop.

    Meanwhile, crackpots like HW and EOS, have been plotting to murder ballot counting volunteers in Philadelphia.

    POLICE THWART ALLEGED PLOT TO ATTACK PENNSYLVANIA CONVENTION CENTER WHERE VOTES ARE BEING COUNTED IN PHILLY

    https://6abc.com/philadelphia-attack-pennsylvania-convention-center-plot-pa-election/7689932/

  208. Posted November 7, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I sure hope EOS didn’t pass away from the virus.

    I wouldn’t want him getting off that easily.

  209. Posted November 8, 2020 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Does everyone understand why John Barr, Jr. posts here under an anonymous name and doesn’t post Q stuff on his Facebook page?

  210. Posted November 20, 2020 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Giuliani IS Q!!

  211. Bob
    Posted November 20, 2020 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    What’s really funny is John Barr jr posts things and absolutely nobody seems to look at it at all. Almost like he hasn’t a friend in the world.

  212. Posted November 21, 2020 at 3:27 am | Permalink

    Yes, Bob. It appears EOS has disappeared on him. Maybe he was raptured though. There’s always that possibility.

  213. Posted November 21, 2020 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    An attorney leading Trump’s attempt to subvert the election results is a longtime QAnon supporter

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-election-lawyer-sidney-powell-is-longtime-qanon-supporter-2020-11?amp

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