With news of Manafort and Corsi having coordinated with Assange on the release of stolen DNC emails, Trump appears to have lost his fucking mind

This morning, at 4:30 AM, the President of the United States tweeted out the following about Robert Mueller, the Special Counsel appointed by the Department of Justice to look into, among other things, any coordination that may have taken place between the Russian government and members of his 2016 presidential campaign. “The Fake News Media builds Bob Mueller up as a Saint, when in actuality he is the exact opposite,” Trump tweeted. “He is doing TREMENDOUS damage to our Criminal Justice System, where he is only looking at one side and not the other. Heroes will come of this, and it won’t be Mueller and his terrible Gang of Angry Democrats.” Mueller, of course, is a lifelong Republican, a decorated war hero, and the former Director of the FBI. And Mueller, it’s worth noting, was confirmed unanimously by Senate Republicans and Democrats alike when he was nominated by President George W. Bush to be the Director of the FBI in 2001. He is far from a partisan hack, and it’s telling, I think, that Donald Trump has come out so aggressively against him today, going on in subsequent tweets to call the Special Counsel’s investigation both a “witch hunt” and a “total disgrace.”

If you’re at all curious as to why our President might be saying such things about the man changed with investigating his campaign, and repeatedly noting, as Trump did today, the “supposedly stolen” emails of “Crooked Hillary Clinton,” I think I might be able to shed a little light on it for you… Following, to the best of my knowledge, are the main things that have transpired since the Thanksgiving holiday as pertains to the Mueller investigation. As this is extremely complicated stuff, I’m sure that I’ve missed things, and maybe even gotten a few things wrong. If that’s the case, just leave a comment and straighten me out, OK?

Most importantly, it looks as though Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who, this past September, had agreed to cooperate “fully, truthfully, completely and forthrightly” with investigators in exchange for leniency, violated the terms of his plea deal with the Justice Department. In federal court yesterday, attorneys working for Mueller said that Manafort had “breached the plea agreement” he’d reached with representatives of the Department of Justice by “lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters.” It would seem that investigators had known for some time that Manafort had been lying to them, but they allowed him to keep at it, building a perjury case against him that would likely keep him in prison for the rest of his life.

Shortly after this news was made public, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, in what sounded like a not-so-thinly-veiled message to the former Trump Campaign Chairman, went on CNN to say that the President has “been upset for weeks about what he considers the un-American, horrible treatment of Manafort.” [One suspects that Trump may attempt Christmas Eve pardon, but, as Manafort plead guilty to state crimes in New Jersey, New York, and California as part of his initial agreement with the Department of Justice, a federal pardon from the President may not help all the much.]

Well, today, things took another turn, with news breaking about one of the items that Manafort had allegedly lied to the FBI about. According to The Guardian, “Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump’s campaign.” Assanage, of course, is the founder of Wikileaks, who publicly released the DNC emails stolen by Russian government hackers… So, if true, we finally have what appears to be confirmation of collusion between the Trump campaign and those who orchestrated the release of stolen emails intended to damage the Clinton campaign. It’s also worth noting that, according to multiple sources, Mueller knew that Manafort, after agreeing to work with prosecutors, was still communicating with Donald Trump through his attorneys.

So, to sum up, I think Theresa Searcaigh has it pretty much exactly right when she says, “Let me get this straight… Manafort lied to Mueller, who pretended to buy it, despite having proof, because he knew Manafort was secretly keeping Trump informed, ensuring his written answers would match the story… and now the written answers are evidence of collusion?”

But that’s not all that’s happening right now, though. While the hammer is about to come down hard on Manafort, we also have breaking news that emails apparently exist between right wing conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi and Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone about the above-mentioned Wikileaks release of DNC correspondences stolen by the Russians. According to court documents made public today, Corsi wrote to Stone on August 2, 2016, “Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I’m back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging.” [The “friend in embassy” is clearly Assange, who was living in the Ecuadorian embassy in London at the time.] Corsi, in another email, then went on to say, “Would not hurt to start suggesting HRC old, memory bad, has stroke… I expect that much of next dump focus.” And that, by the way, is exactly the narrative that the Russian bots began pushing shortly thereafter. As you may remember, conservative readers of this site were even pushing it at the time, saying that Hillary Clinton was unfit for service due to a debilitating neurological condition that had been hidden from the public.

So, everything appears to be coming together for Mueller and his team of prosecutorial witch-hunters. Having already established that the DNC hacking was carried out by Russian intelligence officers at the direct request of Putin, it seems as though they now also know that Assanage, who made the documents public for the Russians, was in direct contact with multiple members of the Trump campaign team, coordinating the timing of these “drops” with the intention of killing Clinton’s momentum in the run up to Election Day.

OK, and here’s one more thing to consider. Republican Jeff Flake is planning to once again take to the floor of the Senate tomorrow, urging his fellow law-makers to bring S.2644, the bi-partisan legislation to protect the Mueller investigation, to a vote. And, it’s being reported this evening, that he might actually get his way this time, as his fellow Republicans really want his vote on their judicial nominees. As of right now, I’d say it’s unlikely, but, given these other developments, who knows… We might actually be at some sort of tipping point, where Republicans in the Senate feel as though they have more to gain than they have to lose by standing up to Trump and safeguarding the investigation. [If you live in a state with a Republican Senator, please call their office today and demand that they stand with Flake in supporting the Special Counsel Independence and Integrity Act. And tell your friends to do the same.]

And, meanwhile, as all of this is going on, we have Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff saying today that, when he takes over the House Intelligence Committee from Republicans on January 3, one of his first orders of business will be to unmask the blocked number called by Donald Trump Jr. at around the time of his infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russian operatives offering “dirt” on Hilary Clinton. It’s long been suspected that he called his father about the meeting, but, up until now, Republicans, who have controlled the committee, have refused to request the phone records.

So, yeah, I think it’s completely understandable that Donald Trump is losing his shit.

Oh, and I know I’ve used the image at the top of this post before, but this time I really mean it. We have to be close to the end now, right?

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69 Comments

  1. Lynne
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    I wonder how this news has been affecting the Assange worshipping BernieBros? They have been remarkably silent on the subject.

    I hope this means the end is near but much like the train stop in Depot Town. I will believe it when I see it!

  2. Jean Henry
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    Assange may be worse than Trump. So far left, he ended up on the right. His obsession with his own privacy and secrecy, in general, is amusing. At some point, you have to marvel that all these corrupt, megalomaniac assholes found each other. Or maybe Russia orchestrated all that too. Maybe Pamela Anderson is a spy too…

  3. John Schindler by proxy
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    How different does US history, 2010-present, look when you accept that WikiLeaks is a Kremlin spy front rather than the independent “privacy organization” it unctuously claims to be?

    We’re about to find out c/o Bob Mueller & Friends.

    PS people should have listened.

  4. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    “DNC emails stolen by Russian government hackers”

    You are going to find out what I have been telling you all along: that claim is bogus. It was a leak, not a hack.

  5. site admin
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Sorry, HW, try again.

    “The Dutch not only watched online as the Russians stole the DNC emails, but, thanks to a hacked security camera in the hallway outside the Cozy Bear office, they actually knew which Russian spies were in the room”

    LINK: http://markmaynard.com/2018/01/the-dutch-not-only-watched-online-as-the-russians-stole-the-dnc-emails-but-thanks-to-a-hacked-security-camera-they-actually-knew-which-russian-spies-were-in-the-room/

  6. site admin
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    EOS during the debates: “It will be interesting to see if Hillary can stand for 90 minutes tonight without having any coughing fits or neurological spasms. There won’t be any neurologists standing by her side. She will probably dose up to avoid medical symptoms and could possibly end up with slurred speech and muddled thinking. She is not charismatic and if she tries to impress us with details of obscure policies she will lose the audience.”

  7. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    “The Dutch not only watched online as the Russians stole the DNC emails, but, thanks to a hacked security camera in the hallway outside the Cozy Bear office, they actually knew which Russian spies were in the room”

    Yeah, right. You think you have a way of confirming that to be true or you just automatically believe in the truthfulness of government?

  8. ElsieGal
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Thanks for leading me to Theresa Searcaigh—I hadn’t heard of her before and so I spent some time reading her Twitter feeds, and I was impressed. Your link, though, took me to a 2013 MM post about “seedbombing Water st” so I read that entire post and comments looking for some secret message about Theresa Searcaigh, certain that “seed” “bomb” “water” were code words that would lead m to some great revelation. Maybe I was under-caffeinated, but I couldn’t make the connection, so I just reverted to Google to find her, LOL!!

  9. site admin
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Weird. I just checked and the link for Theresa Searcaigh is correct. Here’s the code…

    Theresa Searcaigh

    Was it possible that you’d hit another link?

  10. ElsieGal
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    The code in your comment takes me to Twitter, but the one in the post still takes me to the old MM post. Got the same result on iPad and iPhone; perhaps it’s a Safari glitch. I was just teasing about the hidden messages…but you had me there for a minute!

  11. site admin
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    That’s the same exact code cut and pasted from the post itself. I have no idea what could be happening. Sorry.

  12. John Brown
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    As a Bernie primary voter, but hardly an Assange worshipping bro, I was appalled by how easily those dumbasses swallowed the Kremlins Bernie or bust bait. Was the WikiLeaks a precedent part of that manipulation? Looks like it.

    At least the lefties will catch on a lot faster than the magical thinkers who look to corporatist to turn over Roe v Wade with absolute tunnel vision.

  13. wobblie
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Assange and Wikileaks is going to sue the Guardian (which made up this story) for libel. The London Ecuadorian Embassy which has controlled all access to Assange supports Assange’s position that he never met with Manaford.

    https://www.gofundme.com/wikileaks-suing-the-guardian-over-manafort-story?fbclid=IwAR0OMQhoSrEXfu-WA89XA7kBJJQD5rgdtgg_cO3CpO7Ehm-WBcAciqDx-uo

    Site Admin. I know it is nice to rely upon Dutch intelligence. The question that is always being asked by us Russiagate skeptics such as VIPS is, if the Podesta emails were hacked, why does the NSA not show us that evidence. The NSA copies all international phone calls and Internet traffic. When the “Intelligence Community” issued its findings, and ever since then, they have never mentioned any NSA traffic intercept…but some how the lowly Dutch managed. Either our “intelligence community” is a most corrupt and inefficient set of government agencies (possible they got everything wrong about WMD) or they are lying to us (possible they lied about WMD).

  14. wobblie
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    I know that my liberal friends who frequent this blog want to believe everything the government says, but many people are skeptical. Just saw this today.

    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/503-u-s-attorney-takes-first-step-toward-prosecuting-explosive-destruction-of-world-trade-center-on-9-11?fbclid=IwAR2GCVsu_N_k6rB0q42Dfj_JImFQ-KuMT0Q-hP7ZZFtRfc0KxKWE_fHPfVA

    We might actually get to see how the governments report stacks up in a court of law next to independent investigation.

    Also just found out that Comcast is now engaging in net metering. I now get to be charged an additional 10 a month for additional data usage. When oh when do we get some real competition to Comcast.

  15. Meta
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    The Guardian did not make it up. The intel came from Ecuadorian intelligence.

    The Observer: “Ecuadorian Intelligence Claims Paul Manafort Met With Julian Assange Prior to DNC Hack”

    Ecuadorian intelligence claims WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange met with former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort in London.

    In an internal document obtained by The Guardian, the country’s Senain intelligence agency describes Paul Manafort as one of several well-known guests to visit Assange at London’s Ecuadorian embassy, along with unspecified “Russians.” Sources in Ecuador tell the publication that Manafort’s visit to the embassy was not logged.

    Read more:
    https://observer.com/2018/11/ecuadorian-intelligence-paul-manafort-julian-assange-dnc-hack/

  16. Lynne
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    John Brown, I don’t think everyone wh0 voted for or supported Bernie Sanders in the primary is a “Bernie Br0” but they are out there! I imagine that they will start saying that the Guardian, a pretty well respected news source, just “made it up”. Then they will accuse others of accepting information without verification even as they as asking others to accept information without verification. It is kind of like how HW operates and what I would expect from him if he were one of those guys.

  17. John Brown
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Lynne, my cousin was working high level IT security for Dept Homeland Security at the time Wikileaks first was a thing. He LOL’d at me for thinking Wikileaks was anything but a cover for state sponsored espionage. I have since come to see that his intuition was most likely right from the start. I was vulnerable to manipulation due to my anti-establishment bias. But there are folks even further over on that biased spectrum.

  18. CNN's Andrew Kaczynski
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    NEW: Donald Trump told Robert Mueller in writing that Roger Stone did not tell him about WikiLeaks, nor was he told about the 2016 Trump Tower, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/politics/trump-mueller-answers-wikileaks-trump-tower/index.html

  19. Jean Henry
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Was just engaged with a climate denialist and anti-vaxxer elsewhere in social media last night. After I countered his points with research, he questioned m ‘appeals to authority.’ And HW did the same above. As for Wobblie’s assertion that we believe everything the government tells us, I think this MM post alone proves otherwise. It’s a ridiculous assertion really.

    FWIW, I’m fairly certain the WMD claim was bogus. At a minimum, it was an inflated suspicion manipulated into a certainty for political reasons. Most of us recognized that even at the time. And we know it was bullshit now. Because we actually do get at the truth in politics more often than not. As for this investigation, Mueller doesn’t seem like a political actor to me. The total absence of leaks would indicate so. I could be wrong. Many Q followers believe he’s actually investigating the Clintons. Into a vacuum of information, much bullshit will folow.

  20. Jean Henry
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    The Guardian has made several adjustments to the story suggesting they may not be confident of its credibility. Or just covering their asses in light of lawsuits. We’ll see. But many are questioning the soundness of the story. Waiting to see how other outlets cover this and if they can confirm. Glen Greenwald (who I detest but read) linked this:

    https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/guardian-manafort-assange-claims/?tw=dd

  21. Jean
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie is a 9/11 false flagger?
    Well, of course, he is.

    Good, now I no longer have to give him any attention at all.

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Jean the Ignorant

  23. Sad
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    HW what about the Trump connection to Epstein? Something doesn’t add up.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

  24. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    He was never a member at Mar a Lago. He came around but Donald Trump kicked him out for trying to hit on a young girl. Donald Trump aided Jeffrey Epstein’s prosecutors.

  25. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    So why hire Acosta, you ask? Maybe the case needed to be superficially attached to Donald Trump so that the dems/media would jump on it. They didn’t seem too interested to talk about the Clintons’ fave little getaway before now.

  26. Sad
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Epstein had the dirt on Trump so Trump had the prosecutor go light. His payoff, a cabinet position! I’ve out Q’d Q.

  27. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Nah. It’s Trump who has the dirt on Epstein, the Clintons and a whole crap-ton of people. You’ll see.

  28. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Donald J. Trump Retweeted

    https://twitter.com/The_Trump_Train/status/1067687857400229888

  29. ElsieGal
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Sad, thanks for sharing the Miami herald link. I read the entire piece. Not sure if/how it connects to the Prez, but it is a chilling tale, and yet another instance of an ultra-wealthy person (white, male), viritually getting away with crimes that would send most of to prison for many years. Ugh.

  30. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    It was Hill and Bill’s home away from home and the President knows what they were up to.

  31. Kyle Griffin by proxy
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    The attorney Jerome Corsi retained is a birther who once called for a coup against Obama. Klayman said Obama will be forced to answer for his “criminality” and “Muslim, socialist, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-white, pro-illegal immigrant … agenda.” https://bit.ly/2BF5A51

  32. Sad
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Trump said of Epstein in 2002: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    Give it up HW.

  33. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    You don’t get the message he was sending. It’s a sly dig at Epstein. The pedos don’t do that to each other.

  34. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    They don’t out each other like that, do they?

  35. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    You think Hillary and Bill would say something that draws attention to their fave host’s depravities? Donald did.

  36. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Spotlight on Little St. James twitter thread

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/933426092173643784.html

  37. Jean Henry
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Best never to bring Epstein up in these threads Sad. It just throws HW into a tizzy imagining the Clintons extract the blood from tortured children to create an imaginary drug at a private island resort for pedophiles. #LOGIC

  38. Jean Henry
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Still no independent confirmation of the Manafort Wikileaks story this morning. I suspect the Guardian got played.

  39. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    Using adrenochrome as a drug is real. You know that for a fact since I posted research about its’ effects on human beings. I never said that’s what they do underneath the temple on Little St. James but I would not be surprised if is true. It’s interesting you and your absent buddy both freak out on me about something I have never talked about here.

  40. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    If certain rich and powerful people do in fact engage in cannibalism then how horrible is it to say it doesn’t exist? For no reason you will have ran interference for them, ridiculing people who tell the truth. I know you don’t have the neuroplasticity to process if/then logic but try.

  41. Sad
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    All rich and powerful people engage in cannibalism. They survive off the blood and sweat of the proletariat. Trump is no exception. He doesn’t care if Epstein is a pedo or Saudi Arabia condones murder. He only wonders what’s in it for him.

  42. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    It is hard to think about. You need it to be metaphorical.

  43. Jean Henry
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    “If certain rich and powerful people do in fact engage in cannibalism then how horrible is it to say it doesn’t exist?”
    –If certain rich and powerful people don’t in fact engage in cannibalism then how horrible is it to say it does exist?

    “For no reason you will have ran interference for them, ridiculing people who tell the truth”

    I thought you said you didn’t know for sure…
    And if this is a standard, you support why do you keep attacking those who support the Mueller investigation? We’re not even jumping to conclusions (like you do), just waiting for the outcome and following the indictments and subpoenas.

    No one on this site expresses more certainty about the unknowable than you, HW. That’s the reason for our ridicule.

    PS I have seen no compelling evidence that Epstein and the Clintons are cannibals.

    PPS– I have seen no compelling evidence that human-derived adrenochrome is real (Including what you posted). Rich people, so inclined, could easily provide the resources to make a synthetic as powerful as they want from epinephrine. It’s the most absurd of all of your absurd assertions.

  44. George Stephanopoulos by proxy
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Michael Cohen reaches new plea deal with Mueller this morning. Expected to enter guilty plea for false statements to Congress coupled with dozens of hours of testimony potentially damaging to Pres Trump–Special Counsel values testimony.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-expected-plead-guilty-lying-congress-collusion/story?id=59491450

  45. George Stephanopoulos by proxy
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Cohen’s earlier plea deal with federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York implicated President Trump in campaign finance felonies. Since then, Cohen has spent more than 70 hours in interviews with Mueller’s team. The questioning has focused on contacts with Russians by Trump associates during the campaign, Trump’s business ties to Russia, obstruction of justice and talk of possible pardons, sources familiar with the discussions have told ABC News.

    “The potential significance of Cohen’s cooperation is immense,” said Kendall Coffey, a former United States Attorney in Florida.

  46. Jean Henry
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    For HW: https://themikerothschild.com/2018/07/09/adrenochrome-qanon/

  47. Jean Henry
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    All peer-reviewed studies of Adrenochrome listed here: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Adrenochrome#section=Top

  48. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    So why are you trying to say it is imaginary? It’s definitely real. None of us have direct knowledge of whether powerful people use it. The difference between how we see it is you can’t even think about the possibility while I think it is quite possible. It doesn’t mean I “believe” anything. It’s hard for you to conceptualize that I’m sure since your brain is so ossified.

  49. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    “I thought you said you didn’t know for sure…”

    See there you go. You have no ability to use logic. “IF/THEN” is a major part of it.

    “–If certain rich and powerful people don’t in fact engage in cannibalism then how horrible is it to say it does exist?”

    When did I say they do?

  50. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    “PS I have seen no compelling evidence that Epstein and the Clintons are cannibals.
    PPS– I have seen no compelling evidence that human-derived adrenochrome is real (Including what you posted). Rich people, so inclined, could easily provide the resources to make a synthetic as powerful as they want from epinephrine. It’s the most absurd of all of your absurd assertions.”

    When did I supposedly post evidence or claim that they use human adrenochrome? So your “most absurd of all my assertions” is a lie. I haven’t even talked about it except to respond to what you and that other piece of crap have harassed me about.

  51. wobblie
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    JH, you recognize that we went to war on false and made up lies, and yet as near as I can tell from your comments over the years, you are in favor of continuing the wars. These wars meet the Nuremberg definitions of War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity. Most of us voted for Obama because we believed him about bringing the wars to an end–instead we now get to be culpable in the genocide in Yemen. (By the way it was Bernie Sanders who introduced the bill in the Senate to bring US support for that war to an end).

    Yes I am a 9-11 Truther. Our Government has told us nothing but lies about that event. In your smug liberal self-assurances you dismiss the research of many thoughtful intelligent folks who have demonstrated that the Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States is erroneous. The two co-chairs of that Commission both have expressed serious doubts about the conclusions of that report. They have repeatedly stated that they believe the “intelligence community” lied to them and failed to provide requested information.

    As you point out in one of your post in this thread, the information provided by “Ecuadorian Intelligence” has not been corroborated by anyone. This is how intelligence operations are run. You probably don’t remember that it was Italian Intelligence that was used to spread the lies about uranium cake, and aluminum tubes.

    Mueller of course as FBI director at the time helped spread the lies that the Bush administration used to justify its aggression in the Middle East.

    The venality of your liberalism is truly morally turbid.

  52. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    I knew you were a cut above douchebags like Jean Henry, Wob. That’s not saying a lot but it is something. Where was the entire anti-truth contingent at the highly publicized debate at the Michigan League back in the day? There was an open invitation to every single U-M employee to debate. Hundreds of people showed up to watch but no one stepped up to try to back up their claims under the spotlight. Pathetic!

  53. Anonymous
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Do you know what a douche bag is, literally? In what way is that an insult? It’s like me calling you a bath towel.

  54. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    You never compared someone to an inanimate object? ‘Bath towel’ wouldn’t work hahaha.

  55. John Brown
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie, oh dear. I was thinking we were on the same page mostly, but now HW is a fan boi? That’s got to be disconcerting.

  56. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    If not thinking someone is a big of a douche as Jean Henry is being a fan boi then I guess I am a fan boi to just about everyone except people who do the really heinous shit. Jean is that backwards and dumb.

  57. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Of course all the Iron Derp aliases are really bad too but I don’t think either of you are beyond redemption. A little bit of knowledge will go a long way for everyone. Maybe one day you will even understand everything I have said and be friendly.

  58. Anonymous
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    I think Jean is doing a fine job cleaning up after you.

  59. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Big deal. I think you are full of shit. Running interference for someone trying to incite a race war? Screw you.

  60. Eel
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    There’s a great Salon headline today that you might be interested in, HW.

    “Donald Trump appeals directly to men who suffer from “fragile masculinity,” psychologist finds”

    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/29/trump-appeals-to-men-who-suffer-from-fragile-masculinity_partner/

  61. EOS
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    @site admin,

    ?????

    So you think I followed Corsi and fabricated lies about Hilliary’s health? Get real. I wrote that comment after Hilliary collapsed on the campaign trail, was caught by the neurologist she travelled with at the time and pushed into a SUV, and had been caught on film slurring her speech and exhibiting neurological ticks. It was well publicized that she had fallen and injured herself on several occasions, and had been wearing prism glasses to help alleviate double vision. But if you and Mark would prefer to suggest I am part of the great right wing conspiracy – go for it. You might even fool some people who read this blog.

  62. Anonymous
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    We don’t think you’re part of the conspiracy at all. You’re too obtuse for something as sophisticated as that. We only think you believe in it. After all, you still haven’t figured out that site admin and Mark are the same person yet.

  63. site admin
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    EOS, that was a quote from you. That’s what the quotation marks mean.

    As for who I am, maybe one of these days Mark will allow me to share a photograph and use my real name.

  64. EOS
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t deny it was my quote. But I made the statement based on the available evidence, not because I get marching orders from any entity, as Mark’s post suggests. Double vision for months after a fall is a neurological impairment.

  65. Jean Henry
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    I request a post aggregating on all the lamb duck BS going on in Lansing right now because I’m tired, have a cold and just can’t deal.

  66. Jean Henry
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie– I know our country is quite at ease with murdering other citizens but I don’t think we are likely to murder our own, especially when all you have to do is make up some WMD’s to invade a country. And Bush had no real interest in Afghanistan and a whole lot of family ties (Carlisle Group) to Bin Laden’s family.

    I support our continued engagement in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria (though not necessarily how we have prosecuted that engagement) because we fucked things up so badly. I did not support any of the initial invasions. I actively protested them. Every time.

    When the citizens no longer want us in those places, I’m cool with us withdrawing. I actually wish we had our military engaged in a few more places, like Yemen. I definitely wish we had done more to support the rebels in Syria.

  67. Frosted Flakes
    Posted November 29, 2018 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Such a bizarre response from site administration. What do the quotation marks indicate again? I missed your point.

  68. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted November 30, 2018 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Doing pretty well in all those departments, Eel. Nice big dick, beautiful companion, strong body, strong mind…what else do you want to know about the Warlord’s sex life? Just let your imagination run wild. You could share fantasies with Jean and Iron Derp. What a time!

  69. wobblie
    Posted December 2, 2018 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    We have the emails between the murderers and the Crown Prince. Where is the CIA/NSA intercepts of the Russian hacking of the DNC?

    https://www.newsweek.com/cia-finds-saudi-crown-prince-sent-messages-khashoggi-murder-team-report-1239991?fbclid=IwAR0t4XIkdlRlIgVIZU1a1QKXXgbn9SlCkOcIj72lxZIDhoSvGyKRTucC-fE

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