Eminem throws down the gauntlet, telling his fans by way of freestyle cypher that they cannot like both him and Donald Trump

The above freestyle rap, recorded a few days ago in Detroit, just aired during the BET Hip Hop Awards. In it, Eminem, after addressing everything from Trump’s racism to his criticism of John McCain for having been captured during the Vietnam War, essentially tells his fans that, if they support the President, they can go fuck themselves. While it’s not terribly surprising, given Eminem’s earlier work against Bush, I suspect it’ll piss off a good number of people here in Michigan, where, in spite of what we’re seeing playing out in the world around us, folks still seem to respect the likes of Bob “Kid Rock” Ritchie, and the draft-dodging Ted Nugent, both of whom have made their unflagging support of Trump evident.

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  1. charlieRomeo
    Posted October 10, 2017 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Damn straight brotha.

  2. Donald Harrison
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    It’s taking celebrity actors, musicians and comedians to most effectively combat this reality show virus mutation manifestation of what’s sick with our society. They understand the rules of engagement a lot better than politicians, who still think they’re up against a politician.

  3. Iron Lung
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    Doesn’t matter. Trump will be President for Life.

  4. JM
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    I’m sure it’s already on Twitter, but I can’t wait for the first person to call him a Libtard or similar.

  5. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    Ewww, that was awful.

  6. EOS
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Are there really people who use Eminem as a reference point for personal and political values?

  7. kjc
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    are there really people who take you and HW seriously? takes all kinds.

  8. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Stfu, kjc. You never contribute any knowledge whatsoever. It’s pure offensive bullshit from you every time.

  9. Jcp2
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    Projection: what you spot is what you’ve got.

  10. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    It’s not a projection – it’s a reflection but you don’t make the connection ’cause of your affection for the globalist direction haahaha!

  11. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Eminem should have gone to prison for sicking his bodyguards on Esham for making a rhyme and they beat him to within an inch of his life. What a piece of shit coward.

  12. maryd
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Right on

  13. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Tell ’em, Esham!


  14. Jean Henry
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    My Eminem-loving son to me this morning: “Told you so, Mom.”

    pS I think I remember hearing that Eminem and Kid Rock were buddies back in the day in Detroit. Guess not anymore.

  15. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    I have always enjoyed Eminem as an artist but does anybody believe this is actually improvised?

  16. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    He had a major stumble almost right away so yeah, I think so, FF. He was known for free-style battles in the early days. Of course there is no way to know how many things a free-styler is pulling out of the back pocket of their mind so who knows really?

  17. Lynne
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    FWIW, I have always found kjc to be a valuable contributor here.

    As for Eminem. I think he is one of the most brilliant poets of our age. Really.

    Jean, you might be surprised. I know that Kid Rock at least values some differences of political opinion pre-Trump. https://youtu.be/oSQJ2ULuhb8

    But who knows? I have had Jill Stein voting friends drop me over my views and before 2016 I never would have thought them the type. I have found it difficult knowing that some people I love a lot were willing to vote for Trump. I can barely tolerate it in them and I love them deeply. If I were an artist, I could totally see myself telling Trump supporters that my work is incompatible with their world view.

  18. Bob
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    He’s a great artist

  19. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Lil sample of some of Lynne’s idea of the most brilliant poetry of our age:

    “Slut you think I won’t choke no whore? ‘Til the vocal chords don’t work in her throat no more?”

    “Got pissed off and ripped Pamela Lee’s tits off and smacked her so hard I knocked her clothes backwards like Kris Kross.”

    “Ain’t no one safe from, non-believers there ain’t none, even make the bitches I rape cum.”

  20. Jean Henry
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Re freestyle: my son did a report on the history of Detroit Hip Hop in elementary school and we spent a day hearing stories about Dilla, Proof, Eminem etc from a friend who grew up in Conant Gardens and was deep in the scene. We were told that the Detroit freestyle tradition evolved because they were listening to Brooklyn rap ‘battles’ thinking it was made up on the scene, rather than pre-written. They just didn’t know the difference, and so they got really good at winging it and helped create that part of the form. In this case I doubt he was winging it, but it’s cool that he was willing to screw up, stop and get it on again. I think it was both staged and free style. And that’s ok. Some of the best things are.

    Also, re early hip hop, we learned that day that Proof and Dilla met in the Osborn high school marching band. Eminem snuck in and hung out on the lunch room with them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krd5ANdLlYg

  21. Jean Henry
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    It’s interesting that a dude who calls himself HYBORIAN WARLORD does not know what a persona is… even when that persona is given his own name.

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Oh, yeah it’s so interesting isn’t it? And it’s sexist not to vote for Biliary Binton but it’s just having a persona to make millions rapping about raping and mutilating women.

  23. Bob
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Johnny Cash never shot a man in Reno. David Bowie probably didn’t live on Mars.

  24. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    And Debbie Harry didn’t go around eating cars. So what? Folsom Prison Blues is a poignant song about a man with deep regret for what he had done to put him away. If you think Eminem’s lyrics are pure poetry but you cry sexism every chance you get then sorry but you are fucked.

  25. Jean Henry
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Exactly, Bob.
    HW– Who said it’s sexist not to vote for HRC? Acknowledging sexism in the campaign is not the same as saying all people who didn’t vote for her are sexist. I have made clear here that I think sexism and racism heavily influence voters. I have also made clear that I don;t think all Trump voters are sexist or racist.I don;t see those statements as contradictory.
    Misogyny and sexual violence exists. I’m ok with people making art about it, even from the perspective of the perpetrator. I actually think it’s more useful than harmful. I don’t personally believe speech is violence. I actually think that distinction between speech and action is critically important. Many people disagree with me on that. They are free to disagree, because … free speech.

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Lynne did.

  27. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    You did too.

    “But right now, I don’t think they politically deserve to be catered to. And I know them well enough to know most of them will never ever ever vote for HRC anyway. Just like Bernie or Busters– It’s asking to much of them to admit their criticism is largely based on misinformation, lies and sexism.”

  28. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    So what’s up? You run off at the mouth so much you can’t even keep track of what you say.

    “They will still hate her, like they hated Obama, because they are bigots. Because sexism is a factor. And denying it is like a full time job for parts of our majority culture.”

  29. maryd
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Look who is talking about running off at the mouth. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

  30. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    I make real points that I back up though. All you have are little quips. A whole bunch of you are like that. Jean is verbose but doesn’t even know what her own posts say.

  31. Tommy
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Another flippin’ thread ruined. Real hard to read these days with the shit flinging constantly.

  32. Dan
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    “He had a major stumble almost right away so yeah, I think so, FF.”

    You are incorrect. Read the lyrics.

    “I’ma walk inside a mosque on Ramadan
    And say a prayer that every time Melania talks
    She gets her mou— ahh, I’ma stop
    But we better give Obama props”

    It was planned. It was filmed in advance. Do you think he would keep a “major stumble” in the final video. As far as it not being scripted, yeah, it definitely was. Its not like his old rap battles where he plays off of the other guy in a somewhat spontaneous way.

    also, KJC has never contributed a single positive thing to this blog. She does nothing but attack people personally, call people trolls, and other nonsense.

  33. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    For realz, Tommy. Why do they do it do you think? They can’t stand information that ahem, significantly weakens their ‘narrative’?

  34. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    That’s cool, Dan. Thanks a lot. Doesn’t matter to me if it was off the cuff or not. Definitely agree on the kjc. Hahaha, I’m a poet and don’t even know it!

  35. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    It’s like 10 trillion times better and more true!

    Eminem diss track by Alex Wilson Productions from four days ago. This kid is on top of this shit Big League.

  36. Iron Lung
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    This is a sad place.

  37. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Don’t you get tired of saying things like that? I know you are depressed as shit but jeez, dude – at least say something interesting.

  38. Lynne
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    It is entirely possible to be sexist and still write great poetry. I am kind of fond of Byron even though by many accounts he was cruel and possibly a sociopath. Talent isnt just for good people. Not that I think Eminem is a cruel person or a sociopath. He is very talented with words though regardless of his flaws as a person.

  39. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 11, 2017 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Just don’t piss him off or he’ll rip your tits off and smack you so hard he’ll knock your clothes backwards like Kriss Kross.

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