tedd haggard: reaps what he sows

Ted Haggard loves cock.

That in itself probably wouldn’t warrant a post. Lots of my friends, male and female, are quite fond of cock. It’s not something that I spend a lot of time thinking about. And, to be honest, it’s never occurred to me that posts on the subject would be that interesting, although I guess they might get me more readers. I know some people really get worked up over the idea of one man touching another man’s wiener, but, personally, I couldn’t care less.

But there’s more to this story that just one man wanting to play with another man’s wiener. You seeTed Haggard also love crystal meth… Oh, and then there’s the fact that he’s also the man behind the largest, most influential evangelical movement in the country.

Here’s a quote from Haggard: we don’t have to debate about what we should think about homosexual activity, it’s written in the Bible.”

To the minister’s credit, I don’t believe the Bible condemns either the use of methamphetamine or prostitutes. (And two out of three aint bad.)

He’s also one of the creepiest looking mother fuckers to have walked God’s green earth and a friend of Bush.

And he was, until he stepped down today, not only the head of the New Life Church, but he was the President of the 30-million member National Association of Evangelicals.

You might remember Ted as the man who went insane during an interview with famed British atheist Richard Dawkins. (If you haven’t seen their exchange before, watch it. Haggard comes across as one seriously delusional individual.)

Haggard, of course, blames it all on “election year politics.”

When is it going to become clear to everyone that all of these men are vile, lying hypocrites? And I should add that being gay isn’t what, in my eyes, makes him vile. The thing that makes him vile is the fact that he vilified the gays in order to enflame the passions of the small-minded and thereby amass power for himself. There’s not a place in Hell dark enough for a man like that.

[No word on how this will effect the planned opening of the Ann Arbor branch of the pastor’s mega-church empire.”]

(Thanks to MM.com reader be-OH-be for several of these links.)

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  1. mike_1630
    Posted November 4, 2006 at 3:31 am | Permalink

    Wow – I’m really glad I watched that interview… this man… is off. I don’t even know what to say – but it’s very, very, very funny to watch him claim he bought meth and then threw it away.

  2. dorothy
    Posted November 4, 2006 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    i am so sick and tired of the general fuckupedness of the repiglicans i can hardly breathe. if we don’t get them out of power asap, this country is going down the drain. at least here in pennsylvania we’re getting rid of santorum. everybody else get out there and do your part!

  3. frenchfries
    Posted November 4, 2006 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    I hadn’t seen the encounter with Dawkins–thanks for the link. Wasn’t it fascinating that Haggard had no idea what the Nuremberg rallies were? Amazing to see how those same methods effectively evolved in parallel.

  4. grr
    Posted November 4, 2006 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Again and again, it seems those who rally against certain things (i.e. homosexuality, drugs) do so out of some kind of self-loathing.

    Great links. :)

  5. egpenet
    Posted November 4, 2006 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    As with us all, and it applies to me, which I have to be wary of … “The fox smells his own hole first.”

    I rail, we rail, against our own temptations. Eve has an apple to share … anyone … ?

  6. mark
    Posted November 5, 2006 at 1:48 pm | Permalink
  7. mark
    Posted November 5, 2006 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    And who could forget that great Harper

  8. Jim
    Posted November 5, 2006 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    It was “repulsive and dark.” Unfortunately, Haggard doesn’t realize that what’s really repulsive is not his sexual desires, but his inability to stop sharing his self-hatred with his flock even after he’s been disgraced and fired.

    The Haggards’ letters are here:

  9. mark
    Posted November 5, 2006 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely right, Jim.

  10. Jim
    Posted November 5, 2006 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    If that got cut off, you can link from here:

  11. BVos
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 10:59 am | Permalink


    I don’t think the New Life Church in A2 is related to Ted Haggard at all. I think it’s just concidence that the two happen to share names. New Life is not a denomination like Presbyterian or Methodist, it’s just a name they picked. Most non-denominational churches today seem to use the folks who name subdivisions to come up with a church name. Just throw some nice words together and call yourself a church.

  12. BrianB
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    To me, it seems like an even bigger deal than people are making it out to be, after all, this guy is the President’s top spiritual advisor. I mean, it’s obvious that Bush doesn’t really believe in the tennants of Christianity and is just using it for political gain. But for the people who belive that George Bush is a God-fearing man and is sincere about his faith, this has got to be a major blow to that way of thinking. I mean, you can’t just brush this off, Pastor Ted was living a total lie and he admitted it, and Bush met with him once a week and was 100% in agreement with him, like he said the only thing they dissagreed about was Ford vs. Chevy. So, what is Bush’s position now? I mean if he’s a Christian and he’s at all sincere about his faith, when his top spiritual advisor goes down in flames so dramatically, he’s got to be devistated, right? He was either lying in the first place about his relationship with Pastor Ted to get the evangelical vote, or he is lying now by distancing himself from it. He can’t win, and they have to draw a line between religion and politics to even discuss it, and that is a big crack in the veneer of this whole republican theocracy movement.

  13. Ted Glass
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    You’re exactly right, but, fortunately for Bush, no one gives a fuck. If Clinton’s main spiritual advisor had been sucking meth-encrusted cock, you could be damn sure that the Senate would have already called for hearings. This won’t even be in the papers tomorrow.

  14. OK
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Let’s see what another blogger named Mark has to say about this:


    This excerpt explains why it actually may be Mrs. Haggard’s fault:

    Most pastors I know do not have satisfying, free, sexual conversations and liberties with their wives. At the risk of being even more widely despised than I currently am, I will lean over the plate and take one for the team on this. It is not uncommon to meet pastors

  15. Tony Buttons Esq.
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Is “let herself go” a

  16. OK
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m thinking that might have been the meaning of this verse, from Song of Songs:

    Thy strap-on is like to a firm, ripe plantain,
    Let us lodge it into mine greatest depths

  17. egpenet
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Or as W.C.Fields once reemarked … “Once a King, ALWAYS a King: once a (k)night is enough!”

  18. mark
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    I was just cleaning out another email account last night and had a bunch of notes from pastor Ted. (I’d forgotten that I’d signed up for the New Life mailing list.) It was funny. In the last one, which was sent early last week, he was inviting “men” to come away with him for some all-male retreat. Made me laugh.

  19. mark
    Posted November 6, 2006 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    And clearly his wife is to blame for not feeding him meth and “taking him” roughly.

  20. kayt
    Posted November 7, 2006 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    I certainly hope that the A2 New Life Church isn’t affiliated with Haggard’s. That said, while I didn’t encounter anyone looking for meth or to exchange sex for money, I did note that they are very cult-like and have the typical rabid-yet-feel-good fucked up evangelical doctrine. At least, that’s how they were in ’99 when I lost a boyfriend to jesus. RIP.

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