It’s time to vote, Michigan! Let me know if I can help.

I read something yesterday that struck me. The Atlantic’s David Frum, commenting about how difficult it is for some people in the United States to vote, said, “It’s not easy to design a voting system that creates 11 hour lines.” “Generating delays like this,” he went on, “(requires) careful planning and sustained commitment.” And he’s absolutely right. It’s not just a coincidence that, in Georgia today, it’s taking people in the affluent, majority-white community of Buckhead 15 minutes to vote, whereas it’s taking voters of color in South Cobb up to five hours. It’s very much by design.

People in other so-called advanced societies don’t have to wait 11 hours in line, like they’re doing right now in Austin, Texas to cast their ballots. That’s not just something that happens in functioning democracies. No, it takes work to see something like that accomplished. From the incredibly long lines in predominantly African American communities in Georgia, to the absolute cluster fuck we’re seeing in Texas right now, where the Republican Governor Greg Abbott has instituted a rule that there could be only one ballot drop box per county, it’s painfully obvious that significant efforts are being made to deter people — especially people without the means to invest a full day in voting — from voting early.

We, of course, knew that this was going to happen. When the Supreme Court moved to gut the Voting Rights Act in 2013, we knew what the Republican game plan was going to be. We knew that polling places in minority communities were going to close, leading to longer lines, making it increasingly difficult for working people to cast their ballots… Finding new ways to stop people from voting is, after all, the most expedient way for a minority party can remain in power. Sure, they can lie and fear-monger for a while, and they can gerrymander their way through a few elections, but eventually they have to stop those who are against them for voting.

Here, if you want to see what this looks like in practice in Donald Trump’s America, is a scene from Texas yesterday.

The good new is, it doesn’t seem to be deterring the American people, who appear to be voting in record numbers. It’s being reported that approximately three million new voters have registered in Texas since 2016, and over 120,000 voters in Georgia cast their ballots on the first day of early voting alone. People, it would seem, are willing to invest the time and effort to ensure that Donald Trump is defeated come Election Day.

Thankfully, absentee voting here in Michigan is relatively easy. [We no longer have a Republican Governor or Secretary of State, after all.] I believe there are three ballot drop boxes here in Ypsilanti alone, like the one shown at the top of this post, which is just behind City Hall. I cast my ballot here today… I didn’t want to. I love voting in-person, on Election Day. I thought, however, that I’d better request my absentee ballot, and get it in early, so that I knew it would be counted. I wasn’t really afraid of standing in line on November 3, and being exposed to COVID at my local polling place. I was more concerned that something might happen between now and Election Day to keep me from the polls, and I wanted to be sure that didn’t happen. I wanted to be absolutely sure that I’d be able to cast my ballot for Joe Biden, and against Donald Trump.

If, like me, you’re here in Michigan, and you’d like to vote early, before the desperate lies of the Trump campaign begin to intensify, there’s still time to request a ballot from the Michigan Department of State. Just follow this link to start the process. And send me an email if you get stuck, need help, etc. [You can also find help through the Washtenaw Dems and the Biden-Harris 2020 campaign.]

I don’t ask very much of you, but please, if you haven’t already, request your ballot today and vote. And be sure that you encourage everyone you know to do the same. It’s critically import that we vote, especially here in the very progressive city of Ypsilanti, as we need to offset the pro-Trump votes elsewhere in the state. [The state is suggesting that, if you’re requesting a ballot through their online portal, you do so by October 19. After that, they’re suggesting that you request one in person at your local city or township clerk’s office.] And, again, if you need any help at all navigating this, just let me know. I’m happy to help.

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303 Comments

  1. Posted October 15, 2020 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Biden campaign manager: Race is ‘far closer’ than experts say

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521151-biden-campaign-manager-race-is-far-closer-than-experts-say

  2. John Brown
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    International Crisis Group issues warning of potential violence around the American election. Personally, I think this threat is 99% psy-op bluff and I doubt many incidents will occur. But I have heard that some strongly democratic precincts likely to be targeted are going to have poll-watcher-watchers showing up to deter voter suppression.

    https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/international-elections-experts-sound-the-alarm-about-trumps-rhetoric-violence-could-be-quite-serious/

  3. Posted October 15, 2020 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for posting that picture of the ballot drop off box! I filled out my absentee ballot yesterday and I have been stressing a little about needing to go inside City Hall to drop it off. I am glad to see the box is outside!

    I can say this though, all of these shenanigans by Republicans to keep people from voting is convincing people, who previously thought their votes were unimportant and didn’t matter, that their votes DO matter. If they didn’t the GOP wouldn’t be working so hard to keep them from voting!

  4. Posted October 15, 2020 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Another reason to vote early….

  5. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    “YOU deserve to have a no knock warrant issued where you get murdered by police.”—Lynne

    And we are should listen to Fake John Brown about voter suppression when he said religious people should lose their voting rights?

    (Two representatives of the tolerant and peaceful left.)

  6. Posted October 15, 2020 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    FF, Uh-huh. I know that things like context escape you but I was saying that to HW because he was refusing to say that kidnapping the governor was not ok. I thought it might be worthwhile to turn the tables on him so he could see how it feels when someone is saying that *his* life isn’t worth anything. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with voter suppression. But I am not surprised that a person who is so known here for his dishonesty might try to act like it is.

    I will note, FF that YOU seem way more offended when a woman says things like that than when a man does. You very clearly have different standards for behavior based on things like race and gender. (eg how you defend Nick Sandmann!)

  7. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Regarding voter suppression: Fake John Brown said he wanted to eliminate voting rates based upon a person’s religious affiliations. That is advocating for voter suppression. Yes or no?

  8. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    HW expressed an opinion that he is pro- kidnapping the governor? Just stop talking, Lynne. Or offer a quote of HW expressing a pro kidnap the governor opinion. Or keep talking and keep exposing yourself to be a mega-fraud-bullshit-machine.

  9. Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    FF, yes but IF he was being serious. I don’t recall the context in which that comment was made but if it was in the context of people here dismissing concerns about voter suppression, he might have been saying it as a reminder that just because a group is in power now, they may not always be and laws that thwart voter suppression actually protect everyone.

    It is like how when I suggest that a solution to abortion is mandatory vasectomies, I am not saying that because I am actually advocating for such a thing but rather because I hope that people who make the claim that women should be forced to use their bodies to “save babies” will be able to see how absurd that is if the same standard is applied to men.

  10. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Why bother with all your bullshit speculation if you don’t remember?

    He equated believing in god with stupidity. He said he thought stupid people should lose their voting rights.

    So blah blah blah. It is like when I blah blah blah.

    It’s all bullshit from you always.

    Quote HW expressing a pro kidnap the governor opinion you fool.

  11. Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    FF, Did I say that HW expressed an opinion that he was ok with folks kidnapping the governor? I didn’t. Has it ever occurred to you that when you lie to try to win arguments it makes you look bad?

  12. Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    None of this has anything to do with voter suppression though and I am sorry that I have allowed FF’s personal attacks to derail us from that conversation.

    My hope is that the Democrats will get power and will do things like pass legislation designed to keep elections fairer. There are tons of things that can be done too including voting in another Voting Rights Act!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/09/10/2020-voting-rights-are-ballot/

  13. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    What did he say that led you to believe that he is ok with kidnapping the governor? Provide a quote fool.

  14. Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Sorry FF, I don’t accept homework assignments from people like you. I assume that you have the ability to view the original conversation since that is where you pulled the quote out of context. Obviously, you have some reading comprehension issues but those are your problem, not mine.

    Just to make things easier for others, it is all here

    http://markmaynard.com/2020/10/five-men-arrested-by-the-fbi-in-ypsilanti-for-plotting-to-abduct-michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer/

  15. Frosted Flakes
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    You think I am being unreasonable to ask you to provide a quote to explain why you thought HW was ok with kidnapping and murdering the governor— but you think it is ok for you to say HW deserves to be murdered, when HW fails to follow YOUR DEMAND for him to express a condemnation of something you have no evidence he supports?

    How dumb are you Princess Cassandra?

  16. Posted October 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    HW answering why he does not condemn the kidnapping plot.
    “Why should I have to condemn something that I have nothing to do with? “

  17. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    You think I have to say what you want in support of your beliefs or else I should be shot by police in my own home.

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    I think “The Kidnapping Plot” is bullshit so why should I have to denounce a hypothetical kidnapping situation or face Lynne’s Most Terrible Wishes?

  19. Bob
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    HCuck, is there no end to the number of conspiracy theories you can juggle at one time? Such a wack job. It’s no wonder your wife is banging that guy at work like I heard.

  20. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    I posted strong evidence right away in their own words they have severe lefties in the group, dork. That’s no theory. Fake right wingers plus FBI agents. Huh! But it’s still real!!!

  21. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    I have exposed numerous hoaxes barky has highlighted during my time here. After many times of this and a final scolding he whined, “Well what am I supposed to do when things like this happen HW?”

    I was like “Just don’t be so sure if you don’t know for sure. Acknowledge there have been hoaxes in the past and more evidence is probably needed.”

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Do you still think I am Daniel L. or are you on the Johnny B. bus? I don’t understand the point of made up “putdowns” about someone you don’t know anything about. That’s no good. You have to have something that hits home.

  23. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Hunter’s laptop is being exposed now. That’s no theory. Now Jack Dorsey is going to be subpoenaed to explain the censorship today.

    https://thehill.com/policy/technology/521190-senate-judiciary-to-vote-on-subpoena-for-twitter-ceo-next-week

    What do you mean theory? You lie just by saying that.

  24. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    The funny thing is when he failed to pick it up the computer became property of the shop according to the contract signed by Hunter.

  25. Jean Henry
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Trump townhall has so far produced two Qanon questions. Trumps reply (v roughly) ‘They are against pedophilia and so am I.’
    He’s really mad that he can’t control the narrative. Guess I’m
    Going to tune in after all.

    https://twitter.com/qanonanonymous/status/1316897592047882240?s=21

  26. Bob
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Savannah Guthrie is going after Trump like a pitbull on a spiral ham

  27. Jean Henry
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Nice one, Bob.

  28. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    And on the other side, Stephanopoulos interjects only to bring Biden back on topic when he rambles on incoherently.

    Did Biden get asked about Hunter, or does Twitter and Facebook block content on ABC as well?

  29. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Biden admitted that he would consider mandating all Americans be given a COVID vaccine. WTH?

  30. Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    on one of the international sites I frequent I was asked
    Only 11 deaths per million in Cuba, 3 in China , 2 in Uganda, Zero in Laos, 10 in Iceland. How come 660 in the USA?

    EOS what is the answer?

  31. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Because everyone in the US who dies of a heart attack or pneumonia or whatever, is classified as a COVID death and the countries you listed either don’t have the means or the desire to track COVID and report accurate numbers.

    The CDC released a report earlier this week that indicated a survey of COVID patents in the US revealed more than 80% of those who were infected with COVID wore a mask at all times or nearly all times when in the public. Can you answer this? How do masks save lives if people get COVID even while wearing masks?

  32. Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Wow, EOS. You still don’t understand that wearing a mask reduces the risk of the person wearing the mask spreading the virus, not the risk of the wearer getting it.

    How are you so dumb?

  33. Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    This shit isn’t rocket science.

    A mask does little to nothing for the person wearing it.

    A mask significantly reduces the wearer’s exhaled droplets.

    This simple information somehow has escaped you all these months, and yet you are under the impression you can discern fantasy from reality?

  34. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3E3-BiWu5CERowrpnKtuQJAibFzDLWGIg-3Ija_CoKO-k3UH4O-zzT0DI

    Most of Europe has had mask mandates for the last 6 months with significant lockdowns. COVID cases are now spiking there.

    Robert, stop and think for a minute. If you can breathe in viral particles while wearing a mask, then you can also pass viral particles through a mask when exhaling. The health experts have proven themselves to be untrustworthy.

  35. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Look at the photos of the “super spreader” event in the Rose Garden. A number of persons in the first 3 rows got infected. They were more than 6 feet away from the podium. “Droplets” didn’t spread that far. The virus is transmitted through aerosols that pass through masks of both the infected and uninfected. The evidence is clear.

  36. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/health/rose-garden-rallies-coronavirus-spread/index.html

  37. Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    You are really, really, really, stupid, EOS.

    It’s not a mystery as to how particles move out of the mouth and nostrils and are largely captured by the mask.

    But air inhaled comes largely from around the edgles orb the mask. Watch some fucking videos of the demonstrations which illustrate this you fucking idiot.

  38. Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Mark, could you post a pictorial illustration which illustrates how masks provide little protection to the wearer, but considerably limit exhaled particles?

    Use stick figures. EOS has somehow made it to old age without the ability to follow mindnimbingly simple concepts.

  39. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    How is it that a mask captures virus particles when exhaled but not when inhaled through the same mask material? Think. Don’t just repeat what you have heard.

  40. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    I won’t call you an idiot, but I do think you are gullible.

  41. Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    EOS, if you would just go watch videos of demonstrations of how moisture coming out of the mouth and nostrils is captured to some degree by a mask, and the other videos showing air being inhaled comes primarily from around the gaps around the edges of the mask.

    Seriously, EOS. How is it someone as dumb as you managed to live to old age? How long have you had a caretaker?

  42. Posted October 15, 2020 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    It’s observable in the numerous demonstrations done by every lab with a mannequin head, a mask and a video camera. But a person with a functioning brain wouldn’t need it explained. You have a fucking head and a fucking mask. Are you not able to tell the mask captures most of the moisture you exhale? Are you unable to tell when you inhale the air rushes in from the gaps along the edges of the mask?

    What the fuck is wrong with you? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

  43. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    I hate you, Mark.

  44. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    EOS: “How is it that a mask captures virus particles when exhaled but not when inhaled through the same mask material? Think. Don’t just repeat what you have heard.”

    The gaps! The gaps! The gaps! THE GAPS!

    Exhaled moisture is propelled into the material.

    Inhaled air comes in primarily from points of least obstruction…THE FUCKING GAPS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE MASK!

  45. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Why is this not sinking through your fucked up skull?!

    What te fuck is wrong with you?!

  46. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Your caretaker really should pull the plug, EOS.

  47. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    So Robert,

    Do you think the MSM, Facebook, and Twitter should censor free speech when the facts are not in their candidates favor?

  48. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, my training in virology did not include videos of cloth masks that could prevent the passage of viral particles.

  49. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Of corse.

    But I’m not discussing serious and complex issues with you. A person who can’t grasp the obvious is never going to grasp anything beyond the obvious.

  50. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    “Of course”…is what I thought I typed.

  51. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    You were fired from that job pretty quick, I assume.

  52. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    I’m going to try to kidnap Mark and strand him in the middle of Lake Michigan. Who’s with me?

  53. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    You’ve heard what they say about assuming?

  54. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    What sort of lab would employ such a severely brain-damaged asshole?

  55. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Next you’ll tell me John Barr, Jr. worked as an actuary.

  56. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    EOS, did you ever wonder why medical professionals wear N95 masks rather than surgical masks?

  57. Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry. That’s a stupid question. You don’t wonder about anything. I realize that.

  58. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    I wear a KN95 mask that I cover with a gaiter that has an additional kn95 barrier that fits inside a pouch that covers my mouth and nose. There are no gaps through which I inhale. I inhale and exhale through two layers of KN95 material.

    N95 masks are actually considered respirators. They fit so as to have no “air gap”. They will exclude 95% of all particles larger than a specific size. The COVID virus is smaller than the pore size, however the N95’s do exclude many viral particles that get trapped in the material. They are designed for one time use and should be changed if they become damp.

  59. Kyle Griffin by proxy
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    More than 18 million Americans have already voted, according to data compiled by the U.S. Elections Project.

  60. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Do you think Joe should remove himself from the campaign now or wait until he is forced?

  61. EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Why do you think CCP paid the Biden family hundreds of millions of dollars?

  62. Jean Henry
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 3:29 am | Permalink

    “Do you think Joe should remove himself from the campaign now or wait until he is forced?” —EOS
    Care to bet on that?
    We could do the name change bet. Wobblie followed through on that. I think I would enjoy hearing what others believe you should call yourself for the Next year…

  63. Posted October 16, 2020 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    Those questions coming from a person who doesn’t understand surgical masks reduce exhaled contagions but do little to reduce inhaled contagions.

    Let’s discuss complexities with a guy who doesn’t understand the obvious.

  64. Posted October 16, 2020 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    “The difference between an N95 and a KN95 mask is where the mask is certified. Much like other industries, respirators/masks have different approval sources and names.

    Australia/New Zealand- P2
    Brazil- P2
    China- KN95, KP95
    Europe-FFP2
    Japan-DS2, DL2
    India-BIS P2
    Korea- 1st class
    US- NIOSH N95, R95, P95”

    Source:
    https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/kn95s

  65. Posted October 16, 2020 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    EOS, I suspect the Chinese government would like to be friends with powerful American politicians. Much like Russian, Ukrainian, Saudi and Israeli governments. Trump’s ability to launder money through his “Trump” organization is very apparent. Why do you think the Saudi’s spend millions of dollars staying at Trump hotels? How about other arab sheikdoms? Who does Trump owe 400 million dollars too?
    Trump has led us to accept petty venal corruption. I mean look at how all his buddies have cashed in on the CARE act. If corruption was a deal breaker for you, you would have dumped Trump 4 years ago.
    The Barret nomination is the death rattle of a right wing movement.
    By the way poor little Oshkosh has over 7000 confirmed cases and 49 deaths now. That is 48 people the death cult murdered in one small little burg in Wisconsin.

  66. Posted October 16, 2020 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Re:”Biden admitted that he would consider mandating all Americans be given a COVID vaccine. WTH?”

    I can only assume that this is something that makes you think more highly of Biden, EOS, since you have already established that you are fine with the government mandating that women use their bodies to keep a fetus alive. I can only conclude that you are also ok with the government mandating that people get the much less invasive vaccines in order to save even more lives. Either that or the abortion thing isn’t REALLY about saving any lives and is more about controlling women and punishing them for their sexual behavior.

    Me? I don’t like the idea of forcing medical treatments onto others even if it saves lives. However, I think we can achieve the same effect just by offering incentives for folks to get the vaccine and by holding those who refuse liable for any disease they spread. Make the vaccine free and then give everyone who gets it a reward. A $100 tax credit?

  67. EOS
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    That’s funny. Jean wants to bet on the false dichotomy. She must think one of the two options I offered is likely.

  68. EOS
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Which side do you want Jean, that he voluntarily resigns or that he is forced to?

    The Dems may think putting Joe at the top of the ticket is a smart way of getting Kamala into the office of presidency. She is not the person to break the barrier for women. In fact, it is illegal to force POC to use the black door. You all should be more forthright.

  69. Posted October 16, 2020 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    I highly doubt that Biden will resign from the office if he is elected unless there is some valid reason for him to do so, such as his health deteriorating. I also don’t see him being forced out. However, I could see him not running for a second term.

    I do think Harris is exactly the person best poised to break some barriers for women starting with the office of Vice President. If she wins, she will be walking right in the front door as she deserves to. If Democrats wanted Harris to be president in 2020, they would have nominated her! My hope is that they will want her to run for president another time!

  70. EOS
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Robert,

    Why does exhaled air not pass thru the path of least obstruction? The laws of physics govern both inhalation and exhalation.

    You sound like that little guy on the island, “The gaps, the gaps…” As the oldest person who regularly posts in this blog, I’m sure you know what I am referring to.

  71. EOS
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Which is it? Is he getting rich off the office of the Presidency or is he hopelessly in debt? Get your story straight.

  72. Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    EOS there you go distorting reality again. I am sure I am more ancient than you. I don’t believe you are much older than JH. So a trivia question. What was the min. wage when you started working for wages. $1.25 when I started.

  73. Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    The funny thing is, that $1.25 an hour relative to todays’ dollar, was the highest the min. wage has ever been.

  74. EOS
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie,

    I think Robert is older than you. I think he is the oldest person who posts regularly.

  75. Anonymous
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    EOS,

    Go watch the demonstration videos, stupid.

  76. Anonymous
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Intellectually, everyone here seems infantile. But I guess that mental deterioration could be attributable to old age.

  77. iRobert
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Read about surgical masks and their long history, EOS.

    Nobody should have to explain simple things to you. It’s your responsibility to inform yourself.

  78. iRobert
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    From Wobblie’s comments, I’d say he was born around 1955.

  79. EOS
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    My guess is it’s closer to 1950 for both of you.

  80. Posted October 16, 2020 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    iRobert clearly demonstrates a great deal more wisdom than me, so he must be about as old as dirt.

  81. iRobert
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    I do want Morgan Freeman to play me in the MarkMaynard.com movie.

  82. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Biden supports mandatory covid vaccine. If you are a vaxxer, if you want everyone to be forced to be injected with substances then vote for Biden. Never, ever call someone else authoritarian if you do. That is an incredible violation of human rights.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/10/15/Biden-talks-COVID-19-vaccine-Supreme-Court-equality-at-Philadelphia-town-hall/1181602789744/?ur3=1

    When asked whether he would require all Americans to take a COVID-19 vaccine once one’s available, Biden said, “It depends on the state and the nature of the vaccine when it comes out and how it’s being distributed.”

    Biden acknowledged such a mandate would be difficult to enforce completely, comparing it to measles vaccines required by schools.

    “We should be thinking about making it mandatory,” he said, adding that he’d ask governors, mayors and council members to encourage and mandate vaccines.

  83. Wobblie
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    It is as totalitarian as forcing us to drink fluoridated water. Polluting our precious bodily fluids. Socialism in the guis of public health once again. The horror.

  84. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Never researched what drinking flouride does to you?

  85. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    *fluoride*

  86. Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    As far as I am concerned, if you don’t support bodily autonomy when it is a woman choosing if she wants to be pregnant or not, you simply have no basis to be against mandatory vaccines. That is especially so if the vaccine mandate involves something like not being allowed to go places if you are not vaccinated rather than actually being physically forced into it.

  87. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 16, 2020 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    I think it is very different to get pregnant than to be forced to receive an injection of some concoction of ingredients that may do great bodily harm. Taking away rights of the non-vaccinated is discrimination.

  88. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Nearly every law infringes upon a person’s right to choose what to do with their bodies. You can’t choose to murder, rob, rape, embezzle, assault, practice a profession without a license, vandalize, etc. Laws and the threat of punishment are necessary to prevent the exercise of individual freedoms in such a way as to restrict the free exercise of another individual’s freedom. And certainly destroying another human life is an excessive infringement of their rights.

  89. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    There is absolutely zero chance that Americans would tolerate mandatory vaccinations. It would utterly destroy our country.

  90. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 1:15 am | Permalink

    And why would we ever need vaccines when we can all just wear cloth masks?

  91. iRobert
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    No vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 will ever be mandatory. Therapeutics will become increasingly available and will render a vaccine to be unnecessary and of little advantage.

    Have you watched the videos demonstrating the effectiveness of masks on exhaled and inhaled mist particles, EOS?

  92. Posted October 17, 2020 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    Thanks to polluting my precious bodily fluids with fluoride, despite my advanced years, I still have all my teeth. The zombies of the death cult so badly want us to return to the 19th. century when ignorance was enforced and rights were only for rich white men.
    The Labour Party of New Zealand–the party that led New Zealand to CRUSH the virus just won a huge landslide victory. The White Nationalist death cult will also be roundly defeated at the polls.

    Polio vaccines are mandatory. Measles vaccines are mandatory. If you are going to live in society you are going to be vaccinated. Other wise get back into y0ur coffin and let the living get on with living. We will defeat the zombie death cultist. They want to make this the fight–let them. The living will walk all over these mindless zombies.

  93. Posted October 17, 2020 at 5:55 am | Permalink

    iRobert, I respect your wisdom and wit (I mean you are as old as dirt and I hold you in the same honor), but I do not think the science supports your believe. I did read about a new blood test that if administered over a period of time is able to accurately predict who’s infection will be severe versus a mild or non-symptomatic infection. Of course if the zombies are going to refuse to take a vaccine, I can’t imagine they will actually voluntarily allow medical professionals to steal their precious fluids.

  94. Posted October 17, 2020 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    EOS is so oppressed. Since he cannot choose to murder, rob, rape, embezzle, assault, practice a profession without a license, vandalize, etc. we are taking away an individuals freedom. This is how the death cult thinks. They want to do murder, robbing raping embezzling assault and do all sorts of other manners of evil. Only sick perverted individuals pursue lives built around murder, rob, rape, embezzle, assault. In the minds ( that is really a misnomer, zombies do not have the capacity to think independently they rely upon a hive master, in this case Q to do their thinking for them.) Using non-violent coercion to enforce public health and safety equals murder. I would call this idiocy, but it really is just mindless gibberish.

  95. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    Is that so, wobblie? They have you DRINK fluoride at the dentist? Good for teeth?

    You are the death cult if anyone is. Pretty good chance you got SV40 from the polio virus back in the day. I’ll take my chances without dangerous injections from Big Brother, thank you.

  96. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    It’s people like you who are the danger to every sane person. Big Brother would never be able to inject everyone without fanatics like you creating this regressive hysteria.

  97. Posted October 17, 2020 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    HW, I know. It is frankly obvious that you consider forcing a woman to remain pregnant to be different than someone poking a man with a needle even though the latter may save more lives. It shows how little you value women’s bodies.

    Right EOS, so you don’t buy the argument from H’W that mandatory vaccines are not ok because they infringe on his bodily autonomy since doing so prevents an infected person from spreading the disease and thus saves lives. I mean you aren’t THAT much of a hypocrite are you?

    I don’t know if Americans would accept mandatory vaccines or not but again, I think they would almost certainly respond to incentives to a degree where a mandate is unnecessary.

    Wobblie is correct that often the logic of their argument breaks down until you realize that the real premise of their arguments is that they want to concentrate power in the hands of rich white men. That is part of why they like Trump. That is why HW sees mandatory vaccines, that would include white men (even the rich ones), as being so much worse than forcing women to use their bodies to bring a pregnancy to term especially since we all know that women with money will still have plenty of access to abortion even if it is made illegal.

  98. Posted October 17, 2020 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    Lynne, you might find this article interesting. It discusses the origins of this pandemic and the worlds inadequate response.

    https://spectrejournal.com/competing-with-nature/

  99. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    Why do you say I am more concerned for white men than anyone else? It’s nothing but a smear. You are so gross.

  100. Sad
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    You seem primarily concerned with yourself and how great you are.

    Are you white?

    If the shoe fits….

  101. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Robert,

    There are many videos of how masks reduce the transmission of mist particles. I thought we were talking about the the use of cloth masks to reduce the transmission of viral particles. Can you show me the scientific evidence that viruses cannot pass through cloth material?

    Wobblie,

    You missed the point which was that many laws restrict what individuals do with their bodies. Lynne thinks a wonan should be allowed to destroy another human life if it resides in her uterus. I don’t think location has any bearing on whether or not murder is moral.

  102. iRobert
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Wobblie, the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine will become as commonplace as the flu vaccine, and will be similarly pushed but not mandatory. It will also only be effective against some strains, but not all of them.

  103. iRobert
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    EOS,

    Most viruses transmitting through the air are carried through micro-droplets of moisture.

    Stop bothering other people with questions for which you could easily find the answers yourself.

  104. iRobert
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    As I’ve said many times before, I’m here to make fun of people. I’m not here thinking this is a place to get an intelligent conversation about anything. It couldn’t be more obvious that this isn’t the place to find such a thing. This is a place, however, where someone looking to make fun of stupidity and lunacy will find an endless stream of opportunities.

  105. iRobert
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    That being as it may, I’m still plotting to kidnap Mark and strand him in the middle of Lake Michigan. I’ve been trying to put together a small army for this operation. My only requirements are that team-members be dumb, dirty-looking, bearded “white” men with very poor reasoning skills. It helps if you have stupid-looking earlobes also.

  106. Sad
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Haven’t you seen that picture of FF, EOs and HW burning books?

    They would be the perfect team for your diabolical plot. But they would probably just bicker a lot about who’s the smartest.

  107. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    You missed the whole point. If you are wearing a mask to protect others, then wear a N95 or KN95. They will reduce the spread of aerosolized viral particles if used correctly. You shouldn’t feel comfortable to sit or stand 6ft away from others if you are both only wearing cloth masks. A cloth mask is little better than coughing in your sleeve. Rather than being a part of the death culture, I am sharing information that could save your life. But if course, you all prefer to ridicule what you fail to understand.

  108. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Sad
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    “You seem primarily concerned with yourself and how great you are.

    Are you white?

    If the shoe fits….”

    Is that a fact or a baseless complaint by a sniveling loser?

  109. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Lynn,

    If you are willing to inject potentially lethal substances into your own body for $100, then go for it. If it is effective, it might give you immunity to some strains of COVID for a short duration. But you, or anyone else, does not have the right to make that decision for anyone else.

  110. iRobert
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    The N95 masks are obviously better, EOS.

    Cloth masks do make a difference. There are a whole range of masks which provide varying degrees of cover against exhaling particles into the air.

    You’re morphing your claims again, as always. Further illustrating why there’s little point in engaging in any discussion with you.

  111. EOS
    Posted October 17, 2020 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Cloth masks give the wearer a false sense of security and thereby contribute to the spread of the virus. The previous posts are there for anyone to see who has made the consistently accurate argument. Follow the science.

  112. Posted October 17, 2020 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Stupid people certainly do overestimate the effectiveness of the masks. Many people can’t get it in their heads that the masks do little for the wearer.

    But your message earlier was that wearing masks is not effective in curbing spread, and that’s just plain false. It been proven to offer some reduction in spread.

    It’s cute that you’re going to morph your claims though. Like I said, you’re a waste of time.

  113. Posted October 17, 2020 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    To save the other unfortunate readers the inconvenience of going back to find your original stupid comment which initiated this exchange, here it is:

    EOS
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 8:44 pm | Permalink
    “…The CDC released a report earlier this week that indicated a survey of COVID patents in the US revealed more than 80% of those who were infected with COVID wore a mask at all times or nearly all times when in the public. Can you answer this? How do masks save lives if people get COVID even while wearing masks?”

    The answer is obvious. Only idiots don’t understand wearing a mask is to reduce your own exhaled micro-droplets. It doesn’t protect you much at all from breathing in droplets that are in circulation in the air. Exhaled moisture is largely propelled into the fabric of the mask. Inhaled air comes largely from gaps along the loose-fitting mask. These micro-droplets are free-floating, not being propelled out toward the mask as exhaled air is.

  114. Posted October 17, 2020 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Experiments which clearly illustrate this have been conducted by countless science departments this year. Surgical masks also aren’t something new. They’ve been in widespread use for more than a hundred years. There are countless sources of information regarding every detail of their effectiveness. Only a complete fucking moron doesn’t look at all this stuff before coming here and making a blatantly stupid comment.

  115. Posted October 17, 2020 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Re: “If you are willing to inject potentially lethal substances into your own body for $100, then go for it. If it is effective, it might give you immunity to some strains of COVID for a short duration. But you, or anyone else, does not have the right to make that decision for anyone else.”

    I tend to agree. I think that a fundamental right we have in this country is the right to make medical decisions about one’s own body. I also think that people do NOT have a right to spread diseases and that could mean that those who refuse to be vaccinated may need to wear masks or stay home or whatever the experts recommend.

    Wobblie, excellent article! The author is simply awful and probably doesn’t recognize her role in us being where we are today. That seems fairly typical.

  116. Posted October 18, 2020 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Voters have cast a total of 27,732,584 ballots in the reporting states, so far.

  117. EOS
    Posted October 18, 2020 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Masks don’t protect you from inhaling or exhaling viral particles. Surgical masks are only slightly better than cloth masks. If you want to protect yourself or others, wear a N95 or KN95 respirator. Robert can show you pictures of water vapor being reduced through a mask, but COVID viral particles are 0.1 micron in size. Ask him to show you the data from peer reviewed scientific experiments.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

  118. Posted October 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    I already answered that question, EOS. What is wrong with you?

    Viral particles are exhaled largely carried by moisture droplets. The masks restrict much of that from being exhaled into the air, as seen in the countless videos.

    Why are you unable to understand such a simple and obvious set of details? Your inability to think simple things through must be an endless frustration for you. It is certainly annoying to anyone who is subject to your foolishness.

  119. Posted October 18, 2020 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Do you not understand that the virus is carried largely by moisture particles when exhaled?

  120. Posted October 18, 2020 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    It should be a very easy question to answer. But of course you are not capable of normal discussion. You can’t answer questions.

    Here’s another one you can avoid; Are you aware of the one hundred years or so of usage of masks for the very purpose you are now claiming isn’t real?

  121. Posted October 18, 2020 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Did this conspiracy begin in the late 1800s? Or did it begin sometime in the first few decades of the 20th century when surgical masks came into common use for the very purpose you are saying is not real?

  122. EOS
    Posted October 18, 2020 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    Read the citation I provided.

  123. Posted October 18, 2020 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    How far back does this go, this deception regarding the effectiveness of masks? Please EOS, tell us.

  124. Posted October 18, 2020 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    So you believe surgeons have been unnecessarily wearing masks all these years?

  125. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 18, 2020 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Presumably that is for bacteria.

  126. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 18, 2020 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Not too fuckin’ BRIGHT, are you? But you think you are hot shit enough to berate others.

  127. Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:20 am | Permalink

    It reduces the moisture being released into the air when exhaling, dumbasses. Much of the virus that is exhaled by an infected person, is released through micro-droplets, you fucking morons.

    Many decades of research regarding the various sorts of equipment is available. You two cultist fuckups are incurable. Nothing can fix you.

  128. Anonymous
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/i-wrote-trumps-the-art-of-the-deal-and-im-terrified-of-what-hell-do-next?source=articles&via=rss

  129. Posted October 19, 2020 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    I thought that this might help.

  130. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    Except the cloth mask is comparable to wearing fishnet for pants. Use rubber pants.

    https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-says-coronavirus-spread-tiny-015151700.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAiblAuxADnfmk4ZuNGaxQ_8MNMH8NLOucFaadmChN90G-q6eWcM_7g542JKeSfaa0ih96wWhDsAiKbCWdWHOVt3r8qg5UOx57D17oZY8O9lJJII7uWuZT6Y3XhDcO7Q6YLc-69RWUaXHGMhiWo5lmBroCr-k2M6QydKIESrmy94

  131. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    239 researchers from 32 countries – Aerosol transmission is the major route of infection. Community spread is through asymptomatic persons who aren’t coughing and spewing droplets. Wear a mask that traps viral particles.

  132. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Of course everyone should be using the most effective masks they can find. Imagine a competent federal government mobilizing, and making available to every citizen, the most effective masks.

    What we have now is an imbecile who tells his imbecilic worshipers that masks don’t matter. Thank you, Trumpanzees.

  133. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    In a socialistic government you have to wear whatever mask the government provides and are forced to do without if they run out before you reach the front of the line. In our republic, you can make educated choices to purchase the most effective protection. You can ridicule me all you want for sharing the truth, but I am happy to stand alone under these circumstances. And with N95 respirators, I will likely be standing longer than those less informed.

  134. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    The PPE that OSU distributed to all its employees and students were absolute trash EOS. A simple candle test can tell you if your mask is being effective or not. You could wear two of the trash masks that OSU distributed and still easily blow out a candle. Our home made double ply tight weave cotton mask were 1000 percent better. So all masks are not created equal EOS. Even a mask that is less effective is better than no mask though. After all infection is a product of viral load, anything that minimizes the chances of viral spread is to be commended. To bad our Leader seems intent on spreading the virus as far and wide as possible. I suspect he thinks this is the last thing he can do to make us remember him.

    https://www.today.com/health/what-candle-test-way-tell-if-your-face-mask-works-t189890

  135. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Wobblie,

    Your homemade cotton masks are essentially worthless. And if they trap moisture, viral particles can adhere and accumulate on your mask. It’s a viral concentrator.

  136. Anonymous
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-biden-will-listen-to-scientists-055324968.html

    “He’ll listen to the scientists,” Trump continued. “If I listened totally to the scientists, we would right now have a country that would be in a massive depression, instead of, we’re like a rocket ship. Take a look at the numbers.”

  137. Eel
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    “Take a look at our numbers,” he says.

    224,732 dead in the United States as of today.

  138. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    EOS, I am 100% ok with a requirement that no one goes in public without an N95 mask.

  139. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    here is some more evidence that shutdowns not only do not hurt the economy in the longer term but actually seem to help.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925251602/chinas-economy-bounces-back-as-pandemic-is-brought-under-control

  140. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    EOS: “…viral particles can adhere and accumulate on your mask. It’s a viral concentrator.”

    That’s why you’re supposed to wash your masks, filthy animal.

  141. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    EOS: “In a socialistic government you have to wear whatever mask the government provides and are forced to do without if they run out before you reach the front of the line.”

    In a competent capitalist country, the federal government mobilizes private industry to supply the entire population with the necessary materials to meet the challenges of a national emergency. The industry flourishes. The public gets the best and most materials, and because it is organized on the national level, the cost per item is reduced to the minimum.

  142. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    When demand increases, supply increases to meet the demand. Government directives pervert the process and result in bureaucracies that screw up distribution.

  143. Herman Cain
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    North Dakota legislative candidate dies of COVID-19, will still be on November ballot

    https://m.startribune.com/north-dakota-legislative-candidate-dies-of-covid-19-will-still-be-on-november-ballot/572772861/

    If you’d like to write me in for president, please do. I may be dead, but I’d still make a better president than Trump.

  144. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    EOS: “When demand increases, supply increases to meet the demand. Government directives pervert the process and result in bureaucracies that screw up distribution.”

    Yeah, like they did in WWII. You’re an idiot.

  145. Anonymous
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    “Except the cloth mask is comparable to wearing fishnet for pants. Use rubber pants.

    https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-says-coronavirus-spread-tiny-015151700.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAiblAuxADnfmk4ZuNGaxQ_8MNMH8NLOucFaadmChN90G-q6eWcM_7g542JKeSfaa0ih96wWhDsAiKbCWdWHOVt3r8qg5UOx57D17oZY8O9lJJII7uWuZT6Y3XhDcO7Q6YLc-69RWUaXHGMhiWo5lmBroCr-k2M6QydKIESrmy94

    From the link you shared:
    ‘”At close range, you’re still going to see aerosol transmission dominant most of the time,” he said. “Spitballs are much less frequent.”

    He said that means that masks — which the CDC has long recommended be worn when near others — are useful both indoors and outdoors for preventing the spread of the virus.’

  146. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    You would need to exchange your cloth mask every time it got damp and before the moisture evaporated. Because as the water evaporates, the viral particles remain, and are sucked in with your next breath.

    I think an idiot is the one who clings to their false beliefs even when presented with real evidence that shows they are misinformed. Your animosity is not as convincing to me as the scientific evidence.

  147. Anonymous
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    “I think an idiot is the one who clings to their false beliefs even when presented with real evidence that shows they are misinformed.”

    lol

  148. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Anonymous,

    Masks block spitballs, but the majority of transmission is by aerosols, which are not blocked by either cloth or surgical masks.

  149. Posted October 19, 2020 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    EOS is once again primarily concerned with his own exposure. Nothing you have said EOS has anything to do with the effectiveness of the mask in limiting other peoples exposure to my exhaling possible viral particles. Typical reaction of the death cult. Only my protection matters, screw everyone else.
    “I think an idiot is the one who clings to their false beliefs even when presented with real evidence that shows they are misinformed.”

    EOS, I’ve got to say I really resent you trying to muscle in on my role as the resident dolt here.

  150. EOS
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Actually, everything I have written about masks pertains to their ability to limit other people’s exposure to an individual exhaling viral particles. You want to use a barrier that blocks transmission that works both inwardly and outwardly.

  151. Anonymous
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    86 45

  152. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Nice lil comm by Wretched.

  153. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    “Laptop is devastating.”

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Replying to
    @realDonaldTrump
    ….There has never been more enthusiasm or spirit, by everyone. Great fun, and so good for our Country. Already winning many states, but not reported. Biden put the LID on again – raising money with promises. They finally caught him, COLD, and he knows it. Laptop is devastating!

  154. Posted October 19, 2020 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    You’re starting to post like Q does in incomplete sentences. It’s really impressive. Makes you seem really busy and less wrong.

  155. Posted October 19, 2020 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    The Biden laptop story does not seem to have any legs. But don’t worry they have these revelations to titalate us with, hopefully before the election.
    “This is good news for not just the victims of Epstein, but for victims everywhere,” he said. “The Courts should not be a party to the long history of Epstein and his co-conspirator’s attempts to avoid public scrutiny for their actions. Everyone who was a part of the Epstein sex ring should be concerned.” As should all who have covered up his crimes.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article246561388.html

    I have not heard anything about the prosecution of the two guards they decided to scape goat for the suicide. I have heard nothing about reform of the prison administration that allowed the suicide to happen. If I understand correctly Epstein suicide was the only suicide at the MCC in 40 years, and his attempted suicide is one of only three in that same period. Why is Barr not doing his job?

  156. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    “You’re starting to post like Q does in incomplete sentences.”

    Just because I don’t always include words like “That’s a” ahead of a phrase like “nice lil comm”?

    Lil nitpicker there!

  157. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I am pretty sure it has legs. Pretty sure.

  158. Idea Guy
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I wasn’t nitpicking. I was saying it makes you sound busy and less wrong. You sound all military and shit. Really cool.

  159. Idea Guy
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Putin > agents > Giuliani > NYP > HW

  160. Posted October 19, 2020 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    For those who are too young to know and those who are to busy to care, today marks the 19th. anniversary of our invasion of Afghanistan. Only in America do we keep our wars going long enough so that children can follow in there parents footsteps, literally.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmiMuFgWGjI&feature=emb_logo

  161. Posted October 19, 2020 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    HW: “I am pretty sure it has legs. Pretty sure.”

    LOL

    I’ll bookmark it.

  162. Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    I love the reason Facebook uses for removing a Ukrainian ally of Rudies.

    “We removed this account and this Page for violating our policy against the use of our platform by people engaged in election-focused influence operations,” Facebook said in a statement Monday.

    I would have thought anyone posting political statements would be “engaged in election-focused influence operations”. Trumps latest SCOTUS nominee will assuredly give private corporations even greater power over what is available in the public sphere. MAGA

  163. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    You do that, iDork. Do you have any idea how many things I was absolutely correct about when they said the same thing as you did there? How could anyone think there is nothing to Hunter’s laptop? Your “russian disinformation” narrative has already been flushed down the toilet by DNI Ratcliffe.

  164. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    I post the same way I have always posted, troll.

  165. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Trainwreck of a post by wobblie. The concentrated stupidity here makes my brain hurt.

  166. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    How could anyone be so stupid as to be like “It’s Pooootin…waaaah!!!” Fuckin’ evil babies all of you. Holy shit.

  167. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    If a Trump did one 10,000th of what the Biden family has done you would be apoplectic. Your abuse would be far more extreme than now and that is saying a lot. Something is broken in you really bad. You think it’s going to be bad for ME even though it is all going my way. No way Joe wins. They are trying to figure out if they can replace him on the ballot right now.

  168. Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Don’t know why HW instinctively pours out invective, I think he must have issues with his father. Being Putin’s puppet, I would never join in the “It’s Pooootin…waaah!!!” DNI Ratcliff in fact stated that the clumsyness and obvious errors make the Biden emails unlikely to be the work of the Russians. Now is it the work of clumsy Ukrainians? Enquiring minds want to know. The mindless zombies of the death cult are not interested in the veracity of anything, only its usefulness in helping them maintain power. Being a tool of a political faction has its pitfalls, but it does not require independent thought, so it is satisfying for the unimaginative and dimwitted among us. I hear new pictures of the Leader party with Epstein are being published tomorrow. Seems he was showing his daughter off to Jeffery–modeling her for him?

  169. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    You can’t imagine why someone would counter ‘invective’ from numerous derps with a bit of the same to go with his facts. Well waah. I have been running circles around all of you since I started here and now I am picking up steam.

  170. Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    HW steam is just another form of gas, which you have demonstrated time over time that you are full of it. Full speed ahead, you know the story of that legendary scab Casey Jones. But still I have to wonder what is going on with Barr and Epstein.
    Did you see the pictures of the Leader showing off Ivanka to Epstein yet?

  171. Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Here is a web site where you can see the Leader showing his daughter off to Epstein

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/PedoTrump?src=hashtag_click

  172. Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Yes sir it is going to be interesting to see what Maxwell said in her depositions.

    https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/both-trump-and-epstein-were-accused-of-child-rape-in-the-same-2016-lawsuit-eXFjO0dri0yi-EEh3Kq3qQ

  173. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Protecting Ivanka from Epstein guaranteed. DJT helped convict him back in the day and put him behind bars during his own presidency. Your messiah Obama never did shit. about him. Bush presided over his joke of a sentence. You have to go to narrative-building to insinuate Trump had him offed.

  174. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    You are so dim and slow. Everything you say has the same narrowing, withering character. It makes me feel bad for humanity there are people so dumb out there.

  175. Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    You are going even deeper into your fantasy world. I hope EOS is going there too. I’d like to think FF is, but it doesn’t look like it.

  176. Posted October 19, 2020 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    I’m disappointed we’re not seeing all this on the John Barr, Jr. Facebook page. He must be too ashamed to post such obvious lunacy.

    I didn’t think it possible, but you are even more of a joke than ever before.

  177. Posted October 19, 2020 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Come on, EOS, join in on this. You too, FF. I want to see all Trumpanzees go down this road. This is going to be good.

  178. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    You aren’t any kind of opposition for me. You aren’t here to debate by your own admission. You are here to make fun of people. You aren’t even good at that. It’s a shame.

  179. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Did you friend him yet? To think even Johnny would see you as a moron is hilarious. I want to hear about your communications with him when you do it!

  180. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    I’ll have to up my game, for sure. I’ll see what I can do.

    where are your Trunpanzee pals? I sure hope EOS is still on board with the lunacy. I’d like to think FF is, but I’m a little less hopeful of that.

  181. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    John Barr, Jr. is already friends with one of much fake profiles. So I’ll make sure to make the most of that.

  182. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Have already friended John Barr, Jr. using a phony profile. I’ll report anything interesting or funny.

  183. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Derpity derp derp derp

  184. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Are you scared of him? Why don’t you use your regular account?

  185. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    I see you did post the townhall.com thing earlier today. That should help everyone see what a crackpot they are friends with on Facebook. Oh, excuse me, I meant to say John Barr, Jr. lol

  186. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m hoping to provoke you to violence. I’m looking forward to it. Oh, I’m sorry. I meant to to say John barr, Jr.

  187. Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Unlike the bleeding hearts you are used to, I’m kind of a vicious personality. I don’t know of you’ve sensed that. I like to see crazy fuckers go bananas and have to get put down hard.

  188. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Why would I be violent over some derps thinking I am someone else? What do you do when you get people put down hard? Call the cops? Just like a cowardly derp.

  189. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    He’s iRobert and he gets crazy fuckers put down hard! He’s vicious and he’s a god damn little bitch. He’s bad ass at pressing charges on you!

  190. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    You ask a lot of dumb questions. Have you noticed I to ask those sorts of questions? If you weren’t such a simpleton, you’d understand why.

    I usually feel like I should have compassion for simpletons. But most simpletons don’t have your arrogance problem. I’ll explain everything when it’s too late.

  191. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Have you noticed I don’t ask those sorts of questions?

  192. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Derp derp derp

  193. Sad
    Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    But you’re afarid to wrestle me

    I’ll compromise

    We can wear long pants and shirts

  194. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    “Put down hard” almost never means turning a person in to the police, at least not the way I use the expression.

  195. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    From your response I take it you haven’t noticed.

    It was a rhetorical question to be honest. There’s no question you’re the sort of person who wouldn’t notice.

  196. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    I’ll explain as much as I can when we meet in person, if you have the time.

  197. Posted October 19, 2020 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Here’s one you might have noticed. Do you see the difference between the two of us in the manner in which we communicate? And I don’t have a journalism degree. Do you think anything can be inferred from it?

  198. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    You talk like a complete moron. That’s what I have noticed. There is something wrong with you.

  199. Posted October 20, 2020 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    The way you communicate suggests you are emotionally and mentally stunted. It’s similar to the way Trump speaks. You don’t act like a normal 51 year old.

  200. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    derpus

  201. Posted October 20, 2020 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    That’s a perfect example. Very few 51 year olds would respond like that. Do you have the capacity to say anything introspective?

  202. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Why should I answer a childish troll asking moronic questions?

  203. Posted October 20, 2020 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    It was more of a rhetorical question. You don’t seem to be able to face your own behavior and look at it objectively. I wonder if that was always as bad as it is now, or if it has been worsened by the long-term drug use.

  204. Posted October 20, 2020 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    You have to admit it’s unusual for a person whose reached such an advanced age to communicate the way you do. It’s more the sort of communication we’d see in a troubled teenager.

  205. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    You have the mind of an immature sixth grader so you see others in that same way and hate them for your own projection. That’s how it works for un-evolved people like you and lynne and jean and the other derps here.

  206. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    You openly state your mission is to troll people here and that is proven true by how you behave. You said you would never dream of being serious here. You are trying to provoke someone into violence. So who is the troubled child? This is incredible.

  207. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I’m simply trolling trolls. You are here to troll Mark. I’m mimicking you. I’m simply subjecting you to your own sort of behavior, to see if it makes you think about what it is that you are doing.

    Others here express compassion toward you because they can see that you’re troubled. I’m just curious to see how you respond to things. I am convinced you are incurable. Even the weed doesn’t seem to do much good.

  208. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    How do you feel about all the things you’ve been wrong about? Are you able to keep them out of your thoughts so you can continue with the behavior upon which you’ve become so dependent?

  209. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    You really should try reflecting upon why you are doing what you’re doing. It isn’t the mystery to the casual observer that it is to you.

  210. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    It doesn’t feel good to be suckered the way you are over and over by the manipulations, like this latest one from Giuliani and Bannon (and probably Putin). So how do you distract your mind from recalling each of those manipulations that have been revealed as such.

  211. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    No you are the one who’s been suckered!

    You are the one who is manipulated!

    You are the one who is immature!

  212. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    I am not a troll. I am sincere. I mean what I say. You can’t personally attack someone every day with nothing but insulting opinions and when they defend their self act like they are doing something wrong.

  213. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    When you hijack my name as on the post at 11:35 that is worse than trolling. Ethically it is terrible.

  214. Anonymous
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    I’m just waiting for the Colonel Jessup moment.

  215. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Why do you hate someone who you BELIEVE has been suckered? I have proof all the derps have been suckered over and over again as evidenced by all the times all of you had to shut the fuck up. For example collectively you still haven’t owned up to the shit-ton of abuse dished out in my direction regarding years of Mueller-related disinfo that I was 100% correct about.

    That’s part of why you individually are over-confident. You weren’t posting at the time of that major bloodbath. There were dead derps everywhere. After a while they came back zombie-like and here we are today.

  216. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I didn’t post because I didn’t think there was collusion.

    You are here to troll Mark. If you were anything but a troll you would post your own blog and promote it.

    You’re just here because you’re too chickenshit to do that, or even to stand behind your parroting of crazy Q shit. That’s why you tried to stay anonymous.

  217. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    They said Trump was going to get us into WWIII with his reckless behavior. North Korea was going to nuke us if Trump was elected and he would he happy to blow up the whole world. He said “fire and fury” and they actually shit their pants believing that was it. They had to change it to “See? Twump is cozying up to a DICTATOR ‘cuz he’s a dictator too!” It turned out I was correct on another major major issue that affects the whole world and the anti-twumpers were wrong wrong wrong.

  218. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:57 am | Permalink


    Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I didn’t post because I didn’t think there was collusion.

    You are here to troll Mark. If you were anything but a troll you would post your own blog and promote it.

    You’re just here because you’re too chickenshit to do that, or even to stand behind your parroting of crazy Q shit. That’s why you tried to stay anonymous.”

    Forgot to sign in with your normal name there? You don’t know if you are coming or going you are so fucked up.

  219. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Now you’re doing it. That’s just not ethical.

  220. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Trump is your hero because you have similar issues.

  221. Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    I’m super high right now.

  222. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Damn, you are fucked up! Ahahahaha!!! Watching you break in real time is great.

  223. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    I’m smoking a huge one in my car, sitting here on Chateau Vert.

  224. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m really high, so I’m just having fun with it.

  225. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    How are those investigations coming? Is everything just about to happen?

  226. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    I’m high too, but I’m still beating that ass.

  227. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    I tried to make friends with barky long before I started calling him that but he refused. I said Look, let’s talk these issues out in person over a coffee. These attacks by people on your board are out of control.” If changing his name slightly is your big objection well I don’t think that is substantial.

  228. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    I’m doing a stakeout on Chateau Vert. Lots of freaks around here. Bought some great weed.

  229. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    If you weren’t a puss you’d put your own blog together and not try to hide your identity.

  230. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    You have to assume my name to try to rattle me. Nothing wrong with smoking or eating “weeed”. Nothing wrong with being high. To you it’s “being a drug addict” but that’s ridiculous. Everyone knows it. Only the oddly anti-weeed few here are that dumb. It’s Jean, Dirty, Bob, and you and I’m pretty sure that’s it. You are in the extreme minority.

  231. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    I’m pretty sure Jean, Bob and Dirty all get into some THC on occasion.

    I eat gummies like candy myself.

  232. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Why do you suppose it is that nothing has happened regarding the laptop ploy?

  233. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    When it amounts to nothing are you going to claim it’s a big cover-up?

  234. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    I saw you couldn’t hold back on your Facebook page anymore. You had to come out.

  235. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Don’t be afraid of going public. It completely undermines your credibility.

  236. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Mm, yeah. Such a pussy! Why don’t you go up to J. and start saying all this in person? You think have identified me but you won’t try to get that violent reaction face to face with who you think it is. Scared of getting your ass kicked? Yes I think you are.

  237. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I was hoping I could get EOS and maybe even FF back here talking about the laptop sham. Putin got your boys good.

    It’s funny that anyone would think US intelligence wouldn’t have something to say about the unwitting treason. They tend not to take that stuff too lightly.

  238. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Nobody is scared of you. You are not intimidating. You should get more tattoos or something. Maybe some on your neck or face would help make you more scary.

  239. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Anonymous or whoever it was never said why the anonymous friend of J. thinks he is Hyborian Warlord. I think if there is some good reason to think that then they would say why.

    The whole thing is bizarrely reminiscent of childish drama. I am here to talk about current events and that’s all I ever intended to do.

  240. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    It’s funny how you remind me of Trump. You have the silly notion that you are in charge of something in some way. Few people would do the impulsive and pointless things you do.

    You’re very transparent, but you don’t realize it.

    I do think you should take a different approach. If you had your own blog, you would stall out like you have here.

  241. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    How would you know if I am intimidating or not? You’re out of your depth, my friend. If you are wrong about J. then you are a major dipshit, right?

  242. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    I think someone may have hacked your email. That’s how a lot of people do it.

  243. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Whether judging you by your cowardly behavior here, or on Facebook, it’s apparent you’re not formidable.

    Nobody is going to do the stupid thing you would. They’re going to do something you wouldn’t do, of even think of doing probably.

  244. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    I am in charge of myself. You think your wack-ass opinion means something in reality. Your real problem is you think wysiwyg in this world. You haven’t figured out much of what we think we see is synthesized by our own minds. You are stuck in a brittle belief system that is bound to break. That is why you are going “bananas” (corny fuckin’ term hahahaha!) now. You’re really freaking out it seems.

  245. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Well, some people here may think you’re mentally unstable enough to be dangerous. But I don’t.

  246. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    I have more than stood up to people who would make you piss your pants. Definitely not a coward. Trying to paint me somehow with your bullshit brush? Fuck you.

  247. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    iRobert the Magic Bullshit Fairy! He waves his magic brush and everything turns to bullshit hahahahahaha!!!

  248. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Some people here seem kind of cautious that you might be unstable and do something violent or something. I think they don’t have much experience with abnormal psychology.

  249. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Oh, is that the case in reality? That really means a lot.

  250. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    What are you so afraid of happening if you just expressed yourself publicly without trying to hide in anonymity?

  251. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Maybe someone has already taken you down a notch and you are just too dumb to realize it. I can definitely see that happening.

  252. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Why do you want me to dox myself? Some of the most violent, hateful things I have ever heard have been said to me on this board. You think you can just sweep that away?

  253. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if you’d piss your pants if you were to be in some of the situations I have been. But I am certain you would have reacted wrong and been done in.

  254. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Maybe schmaybe. You are a piece of shit for doing all this if you are wrong about my identity though, right? Not rhetorical. Would you agree with that or no?

  255. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Nobody here is any danger to you, and you know it. Bob and JB are the two that talk the craziest, but don’t ever really get to the point of what genuinely threatening.

  256. Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    No, I would not agree with that.

    If John Barr Jr were a decent person, sure.

  257. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Bob said if someone pointed me, the person writing this out at the Tap Room he would drag me out and beat the shit out of me. Frankly that would be a gift to me. It’s not every day someone who says the most awful things about you and your family allows you to defend yourself physically. Do you think it’s alright to threaten homosexual rape to a man??? Bob did that. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

  258. Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know exactly how I’d deal with a person with multiple personalities, where one was a decent person and the others were not. I guess it would depend on a lot of other factors.

  259. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    But you don’t think you are a piece of shit for smearing someone like me because you hate them for their political views? You are trying to say I am someone who has had an apparently legitimate complaint of discrimination lodged against him. To me that’s wrong. You don’t see a problem with that though even if you find out for sure he is not HW.

  260. Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    I definitely can’t defend Bob, and wouldn’t.

    For the record, Bob isn’t one of my multiple personalities. You can ask my psychiatrist.

  261. Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    You are full of shit. You are a problem to everyone you bother. You should address that. As long as you don’t, I think it’s best that you get straightened out through experiences.

  262. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    You did though just a minute ago.

  263. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Are you freaking out about Hunter’s laptops? Plural is correct if you haven’t heard. That would explain this rash of aggressive inanity.

  264. Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    If you weren’t such an obnoxious asshole, of course I would think you might not need straightening out. If some unpleasant experience or person straightens you out a bit, I think that would be a good thing overall.

  265. Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    No, I’m not freaking out about the phony laptop story. You’re being suckered. Im guessing EOS is falling for it too. I’m wondering if FF is.

  266. Posted October 20, 2020 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    They haven’t been here celebrating the supposed thing. Why do you suppose that is? Wouldn’t they be here celebrating with you?

  267. Posted October 20, 2020 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    I watched the Chicago 7 (8) last night. Excellent movie. Like all movies they took some liberties, and left out elements, but overall stuck to reality. I particularly like the inclusion of John Mitchel and Ramsey Clark. For the babies here Mitchel was Nixon’s John Barr, alias Attorney General and Clark was Johnson’s Attorney General. Nixon politicized the Department of Justice in much the same way Trump has attempted. I suspect Barr will end up like Mitchel, in prison. Between covering up the Epstein murder, and now being ordered to engage in a political investigation and prosecution of Hunter, his lack of ethics will come back to haunt him–assuming of course we get rid of the current mafia that runs the country.
    I also like the way they demonstrated the connection between the Fred Hampton assassination and the way Hoffman (the Judge) treated Bobby Seale. The Hampton murder is reminiscent of the recent murder of Reinoehl. Police in many countries act as death squads, why would the good ol USA be any different, after all these are the practices learned in governing an unruly empire.

  268. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Those embarrassing pics tell me it’s real.

  269. Posted October 20, 2020 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    You don’t think pics can be faked?

  270. Posted October 20, 2020 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    You don’t think embarrassing selfies could be hacked and then mixed with fabricated information to feed to Giuliani?

  271. Posted October 20, 2020 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Why was there a receipt printed up for a laptop that was never picked up?

  272. Posted October 20, 2020 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Why was Giuliani spending so much time with one of Putin’s agents? Would that qualify as collusion, if Giuliani received fabricated materials from a Russian agent?

  273. Posted October 20, 2020 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Do you think it’s a good political strategy to collaborate with agents of adversary nations for purposes of influencing US elections? Do you think US intelligence agencies may frown on that sort of treasonous activity?

  274. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Obviously altering pics and inventing hard drive contents could be done but I don’t think that is the case. I think it’s obvious this is really Hunter’s hard drive.

    You don’t sign a contract when you drop something off for repair? Are you an idiot?

    Presumably the second laptop is real. Biden got dirty money in Ukraine and Russia so there juuust might be true evidence floating around there.

    The dem party under Clinton bought lies from a Russian agent in wholesale quantity and the perpetual harassment campaign against DJT is based on that so it’s you that has to answer the last question.

  275. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=kWN0x_1603238887

  276. Sad
    Posted October 20, 2020 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    You ‘re going away after Trump loses aren’t you HW?

  277. Posted October 21, 2020 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    You’re not good at discerning the strength of evidence, HW. You’ve demonstrated repeatedly how easily you are suckered. Intelligence agents could have you hooked indefinitely with some of the simplest fabrication.

  278. Posted October 21, 2020 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    Looks to me like a red herring set up to keep dipshits busy. In fact, what’s presented looks unsophisticated enough to be chum created by the Dem campaign. It reminds me of the phony birth certificate they put out to stir up the idiots.

    The Q-cultists and Trumpanzees are so dumb and incapable of even the simplest discernment, they’ll be forever at the mercy of manipulators. It’s pathetic.

  279. Posted October 21, 2020 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    All the complaints about nepotism and cronyism are fun to listen to. Back when I was young nepotism was illegal. Republicans threw that standard out the window decades ago. Good old King Engler, for example, passed out 6 figure jobs to the wives of Michigan Republican Supreme Court Judges. At one point I think 3 Republican judges wives had jobs given to them by Engler. I worked with Markman’s wife, what a complete hack. In the old days, we would have thought they were bribes.
    It is like the Hatch Act. Once upon a time people took that seriously as well. Since my pay originated with the Feds, I was prohibited from engaging in political activity while at work. That is such a quant old fashion notion.
    Corruption is the rule now a days, not the exception. Get used to it, this is what lesser evil politics creates.

  280. EOS
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    The FBI has possession of Hunter’s laptop, has confirmed that the emails are authentic, and that it is not part of any Russian disinformation ploy.

    It is more than nepotism when you let your son ride on Air Force 2 to foreign countries, let him accept huge sums of money for doing next to nothing, and then require him to give you 50% of the take. It’s corruption.

  281. Posted October 21, 2020 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Your quit right EOS, kinda like giving your daughter a job in the White House, kinda like giving your son-in-law a job in the White House. But in the name of “lesser” evil you regularly vote for evil. Throw this bum out, and in four years we can throw Harris out. At least in the intervening time we may actually address in some fashion the pandemic and climate change–you know it is a lesser evil than the one currently occupying the WH. After all you are the main cheerleader for lesser evil voting. I keep wafling about casting a vote for Biden, but you and HW and FF keep reminding me why I will cast my vote for the Democrats. Keep up your hard work.

    There is nothing new in the emails by the way. We have known since Ukrainegate of Biden involvement in Ukraine. The only “new” info is about Hunter, was how low he sunk in his drug addiction. Never a pretty picture, don’t see how it matters much. But keep swinging, better to go down fighting, it shows your commitment to evil.

  282. Posted October 21, 2020 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    What is the crime? Evidently the FBI has had the laptop since December of 2019. In 10 months the FBI has been unable to determine that any crime has been committed. The Republicans opened the floodgates for nepotism and cronyism, why would Republicans expect their opponents not to engage in practices the Republicans normalized. The Republicans had a chance to stop the normalizaton of corruption, instead they decided to impeach Clinton over a blow job, rather than him renting rooms in the WH to campaign contributors.
    EOS your a Christian, you reap what you sow, you know.

  283. Posted October 21, 2020 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    EOS: “The FBI has possession of Hunter’s laptop, has confirmed that the emails are authentic, and that it is not part of any Russian disinformation ploy.”

    Sure. Any reason you don’t mention the source?

    You’re a sucker, EOS. Thank you for doing your part in making the Republican Party all look like loons. We appreciate it.

  284. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    You are way too far out on a limb going with Schiff and company on this. Why try to be a gaslighting little bitch even when everyone can see it’s not working?

    https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1318732138187956224Catherine Herridge

    @CBS_Herridge
    NEW: Law enforcement source tells @CBSNews
    FBI + DOJ concur with @dni_ratcliffe
    laptop + emails, said to belong to Hunter Biden, were not part of Russian disinformation campaign + FBI has laptop. Separate reporting suggests could be part of foreign influence op @ClareHymes22

  285. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Proper link

    https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1318732138187956224

  286. Posted October 21, 2020 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    What are the crimes you are believing were committed?

    Don’t get me wrong though. Im glad you’re being suckered into focusing on this. You and EOS are perfect “little bitch”es for your cultist manipulators. I’m thankful for that.

  287. Posted October 21, 2020 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    What’s Barr (and Trump) been doing all this time? Why haven’t they done something in the many months (almost a year) since they had these supposed Biden laptops? Everything is just around the corner with you cultists. When are those indictments going to be unsealed? When is judgement day? When is the rapture? Why is it always just around the corner?

  288. EOS
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Giving a relative a real job and paying them a fair wage is not at all illegal. Especially when deep state is doing their best to put people in these positions to sabatouge and destroy the administration. But written evidence that an elected official is receiving kickbacks from payments made by foreign entities for access is a crime. FBI did not immediately review the laptop contents because they were kept busy with the impeachment investigation that was initiated by the Clinton campaign paying foreign entities to fabricate a fake dossier.

    Anybody who considers Biden and the Democratic Party to be an acceptable choice has been duped by a horde of liars. Are you actually that unintelligent not to be aware of the outright lies by candidates and the media, or has MSM manipulated your hatred of Donald to such a level that you are willing to deal with the devil?

  289. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    That’s funny you instantly change it to well what crimes then? Just a minute ago it was yer a sucker for russian disinfo!

  290. Posted October 21, 2020 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    I do believe it is fabricated to distract. I can’t twll if it’s origins are with Putin’s agents or with our own. It’s not terribly sophisticated however. And it lacks the sort of material that would give it legs. That makes me suspect it was developed domestically to throw you cultists some bait to keep you focused off the real game. That’s why I like it.

    I watched the Obama folks run you “birthers” in circles for years with false leads. The phony certificate complete with overlays was especially funny.

    It’s good to see you’re both on board with this one. I’d feel better if FF would join you two though. I like it when he gets suckered more because he seems to have some sense.

  291. EOS
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Dems tell nothing but lies and when presented with the truth claim it is a falsehood. And if that fails, call the other person a bigot or a sexist or a fool and hope like hell that discourages anyone from investigating the truth.

  292. Posted October 21, 2020 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s a mix of real stuff and fake stuff. I think Giuliani is crazy and makes the perfect sucker, or he’s a double agent working for the folks taking Trump out. I’d lean toward the double-agent theory, as Giuliani has been an inside man on some serious shit.

  293. Posted October 21, 2020 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    EOS: “Dems tell nothing but lies and when presented with the truth claim it is a falsehood. And if that fails, call the other person a bigot or a sexist or a fool and hope like hell that discourages anyone from investigating the truth.”

    I don’t disagree that a lot of Dems do conduct themselves somewhat as you’ve described.

    But it’s also a pretty good description of how many Republicans do too.

    Like I said, I prefer you guys all go down that laptop rabbit hole. Take FF with you, please.

    You fools don’t realize how Trump has turned almost everyone in government against him. Even most of the people who support him publicly are working against him. He’s done it to himself, and you put him in the position to do it. Bless you. Bless you all.

  294. EOS
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    The only thing Trump did was get elected. The next day, the impeachment started. The next day the U of M president announced the the entire community was mourning and offered counseling services and safe spaces to color with dogs to pet. Go back and watch the videos of how many of our non-biased media personalities were in tears.

    And you think that Biden will win by hiding in his basement and refusing to answer inquiries about his criminal activities. Trump is going to win again and 1/2 the country will have their heads explode.

  295. Posted October 21, 2020 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    EOS: “And you think that Biden will win by hiding in his basement and refusing to answer inquiries about his criminal activities.”

    LOL. That’s it, EOS. Keep doing exactly that.

    EOS: “Trump is going to win again and 1/2 the country will have their heads explode.”

    Let’s have a friendly wager on that. Loser does a bunch of community service in Ypsilanti.

  296. Posted October 21, 2020 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    You guys still don’t understand what happened in 2016 and why. You don’t seem to learn from events. It’s funny.

  297. Posted October 21, 2020 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Have you not been following Biden and Kamala’s travels around the swing states over the last month? Don’t you get media in your bunker, EOS?

    He also has Obama, Hillary, and many many more traveling around doing events. You’re as silly as ever, EOS. Maybe sillier even.

    Let’s bet community service for the loser. Anybody else want to take me up on that bet? HW? FF?

  298. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Biden has had a lid on it all week. He likes his lids. …The Pandemic, you know…

  299. Anonymous
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    You don’t need to travel to have influence. Has anybody visited Biden and Harris’ island in Animal Crossing? I did. Did anybody watch AOC play Among Us on Twitch last night? I did for a bit. Her first streaming event and is the third most viewed of all time for single streamer. She was on for over three hours playing. Ilhan Omar and daughter was on for a bit as well. Did anybody watch the 2 hour Zoom Q/A session of the Hamilton original cast last Friday? Biden donors invited. I did.

  300. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Waow

  301. EOS
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    No, I don’t do community service because I lose a bet. Everybody on this blog should find a way to help others on a regular, recurring basis.

  302. Anonymous
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/nobody-wants-me-trump-plays-sympathy-card-at-pennsylvania-rally-before-cutting-event-short-and-dancing-off-stage-to-ymca-b1200436.html?amp

    Nobody wants me! I’m only here because I’m losing!

  303. Anonymous
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    The problem with #freeguliani is that Giuliani was caught on video trying to free himself.

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