The President of the United States is unwell

Apparently, it wasn’t enough for Donald Trump to tell the American people that he could remember five words in a row, draw the hands on a clock, and identify an elephant. Today, in hopes of reassuring voters that he’s not suffering from a serious cognitive impairment, he came out and publicly announced that, contrary to what we might have heard, his recent trip to Walter Reed Medical Center was not due to his having suffered “a series of mini-strokes.” [He said this repeatedly over the course of the day.] This, I suspect, may have been a good strategy, had it been followed by something like an in-depth interview in which Donald Trump came across as being at the top of his game. Unfortunately for the President, though, that’s not what happened. No, his announcement about not having succumb to a series of debilitating strokes was followed by the mass sharing of a long, rambling presidential statement about the threat posed by anarchists armed with soup. [The video was apparently shot a month or so ago, but it just started making the rounds this afternoon.]

Over the past few days, Donald Trump has made several statements that have made people question whether or not he’s suffering from cognitive decline. Here he is, for instance, comparing police who shoot unarmed civilians to golfers who miss putts. [Even Laura Ingraham, as you can see is this video, recognizes his response as being absolutely, fucking crazy.] Personally, I just think this is who he is — someone who equates the taking of a human life with a bad day on the golf course — but I suppose it’s possible that something else is at play. I don’t know that it matters all that much. There are ample reasons not to support Donald Trump. In fact, cognitive decline probably wouldn’t even make my top-ten list. But, as he spent all day talking about “mini-strokes,” I thought that I should at least offer it up for conversation.

[For those of you keeping track at home, yes, Donald Trump has defended his supporters bringing assault weapons to Black Lives Matter protests, and even shooting at protesters with paintball guns. Apparently, however, he draws the line at soup.]

Or then there’s this exchange, during which Donald Trump says that “people in the dark shadows… who control the streets” are pulling Biden’s strings. He, of course, offers no real evidence of this. Instead, he suggests that people in “black uniforms” have been seen on planes. [There’s been no word as to whether or not these shadowy individuals have been carrying cans of soup.]

I know you know this, but the President of the United States is unwell, weak and ineffective.

Here, for those of you too young to remember what a real, non-delusional president sounds like, is a new ad just put out by the Biden campaign, which is set to start running here in Michigan shortly. [Assuming it was produced by the soup-throwing, shadowy figures who control the streets, I think they’re doing a pretty good job.]

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101 Comments

  1. John Brown
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    We know. But it’s secondary to the fact that he’s been a domestic terrorist from day one. He’s well enough to climb the gallows.

  2. EOS
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    Again, the tactic used is to accuse your opponent of the exact defect which is characteristic of the candidate that you support. It is ineffective with thinking persons. Biden should “Be Not Afraid” of debating Trump, and then the whole world will see which of the two is capable of rational thought.

  3. Jean Henry
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Speculation about a candidates ill health is standard campaign dirty tricks on both sides. People do love that kind of rubbernecking speculative gossip. We won’t know the truth and can’t know it during a campaign season. Donald Trump’s relative health or not is not why I’ll be voting against him. I suppose it’s too much to hope that this sort of campaign tactic go away and never come back.

  4. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    If you put a can in a couple of plastic bags and twist the bag for a handle you have a very pretty powerful weapon similar to a baseball bat. I have witness someone beat the hell out of a man with a refillable coffee bottle on a strap.

    Some school shooting prevention programs advised all classrooms to have canned foods in them so the teachers and students could throw them at the shooters.

    I have not heard of Antifa using soup cans at protests but it would not surprise me at all. Antifa does not exist though. I keep forgetting.

  5. Bob
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    I’m more fascinated by the persistent rumblings from people inside the Apprentice production that he is a drug addict. That he snorts Adderall daily and the adult diapers he seems to obviously wear are a result of his drug problems and inability to not shit himself. Figuratively and literally.

  6. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kptv.com/news/photos/photos-items-thrown-at-police-confiscated-during-portland-protests-and-riots/collection_845ac992-e65b-11ea-9273-e73483b8c19c.amp.html

  7. Posted September 2, 2020 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    EOS, I just still think it is funny that *anyone* who would vote for a man as obviously mentally incompetent as Donald Trump would even for a second accuse a man like Biden as not being all there. I mean Biden may have his deficits but they are minor in comparison to Trump’s! It seems with Biden it is really more about people taking advantage of his stutter which doesn’t surprise me at all. I mean Trump has modeled plenty of ableism and disrespect for anyone with disabilities.

    but ok. I guess as long as Trump is blowing that white male supremacy dog whistle, his supporters will still come running.

  8. EOS
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    C’mon Man.

  9. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    I agree with Cassandra. Everything perceived as wrong with Biden can be traced back to perceivers who are judgmental against people who stutter. Similarly any perceptions Trump is not Hitler can be traced back to the perceivers white male supremacy values.

  10. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    The SPLC has actually identified a bunch of anti-stutterer hate group in SE MI. It is sad but not surprising to people like me and Cassandra. We know that anyone who does not fit into the category of white, male, non stutterer is under constant attack in this country.

  11. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Latest Q. Topic: blackmailed politicians

    1 of 4 pages

    https://qanon.pub/

    Sep 2 2020 11:53:16 (EST) NEW
    How is blackmail used?
    Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, has resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography and has been accused of bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl.
    Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography.
    Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old.
    Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage prostitution.
    Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling prostitution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.
    Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.
    Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sex with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Dawson, Georgia, Christopher Wright, was indicted on the charges of aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, rape, child molestation and statutory rape of an 11-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor.
    Democratic Former Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17.
    Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images.
    Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy and when the alleged victim declined to testify, and the judge dismissed the case.
    Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations.
    Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography.
    Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims.

    Q

  12. Bob
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Your president shits his pants, Smegmalord. And your dumb-ass is locked in on a failed pig farmer who works for Putin to spread lies about HRC’s child sex trafficking organization that operates out of a pizza place. You are pathetic. Bad mutant! Mom says no meatloaf for you tonight. And wash your own whacking sock this week.

  13. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    The mom, basement, meatloaf, masturbation joke never gets old. Thank you Bob. You are very clever.

  14. Nobody
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    HW, EOS, and FF are on a train. HW looks out the window and says “There are black sheep in Scotland.” EOS responds “HW, all we know is that there is one black sheep in Scotland”. FF looks up from his laptop on which he is arguing with Wobblie on MM and says “All we can say is that there is at least one black sheep in Scotland that is black on at least one side.”

  15. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Triggered by information on blackmailed (as I have said for decades) pols: nice. Have some more. Hate me and Q all you want for posting this information. I don’t think it reflects well on you to put it kindly.

    Sep 2 2020 11:53:46 (EST) NEW
    Democratic California Congressman, Tony Cárdenas, is being sued in LA County for allegedly sexually abused a 16-year-old girl.
    Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography.
    Democratic Alaskan State Representative, Dean Westlake, resigned from his seat after the media published a report alleging he fathered a child with a 16-year-old girl when he was 28.
    Democratic New Jersey State Assemblyman, Neil Cohen, was convicted of possession and distribution of child pornography.
    Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
    Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
    Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
    Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
    Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
    Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
    Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
    Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
    Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
    Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
    Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
    Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
    Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
    Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
    Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
    Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
    Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
    Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
    Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
    Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

    Q

  16. Bob
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Nobody but you and Putin’s pig farmer bitch have heard of any of those people. If they’re even real. Meanwhile the fucking president and his illegal immigrant/hooker wife were probably splitting teenage girls for real with Epstein and that girlfriend. God you really do need that ass beating.

  17. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    HW putting out list of every politician convicted of sexes crimes for the last 50 years proves what exactly? I just at random pulled Crain out of the list, 1980 scandal 1983 conviction. I dont think the secret indictments Q has posted about go back that far.

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    When was the last time you had to scrap? You are old as shit, right? Not exactly in your streetfighting prime for sure if you ever had one. Usually if a man wants to initiate combat he just does it. You already pussed out so I know what you are about.

    Draw up a suitable waiver and if my lawyer okays it I would spar with you. Or take your chances and just start attacking people you think are HW!!!

  19. Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    HW, What are you trying to say here? That white men in power often abuse that power by raping. No shit Sherlock. I can tell you just from taking a poll of my female friends that there are a LOT of child rapists in the USA and most of them never get caught. There is no correlation as far as I know with political affiliation,

    On a side note, my brother is finishing up his report for the GAO on international human trafficking. The amount of fact-checking that goes into those reports is impressive. It also makes me happy that there is still a government source of information that is trustworthy. I am half expecting a big uproar when this report is released because they found no evidence of HRC’s sex ring. LOL

  20. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Nobody,

    I like that story generally but I wonder how it applies to this conversation specifically. How is my approach, which admittedly has a skeptical component in it, lending itself toward absurd conclusions and or toward a stance where I am denying the possibility for knowledge. Sincere question.

    The reason I ask is because I actually think we can apply that little story to the trio of Maynard, Lynne, and JH. Quite easily. Are you sure you are applying that story correctly?

  21. Anonymous
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Did you know this is the same EOS that said Hillary Clinton was suffering from a severe neurological disorder and would be dead within months of the election back in 2016?

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Is it not evidence of a pattern over time? Politicians with pedo problems. Being one is the worst thing possible. Even prisoners who do the most brutal crimes hate them. Not too many things would be a more powerful way to make pols do what you want.

  23. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Why is everyone around Hillary and Bill involved in child sex and trafficking? Their buddy Nadler got busted for bringing a fourteen year old boy to the USA for sex and having child abuse videos on his phone. That’s the most recent one. That was supposed to be Mueller’s star witness!!!!

  24. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    This election is going to be very close. What tools do you recommend to motivate non-voters to get out and vote this time? Trump is going to push every scare and greed button he can find. What can we bring to the table to get more voters?

  25. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Trumps eviction moratorium just gave millions of lower wage workers significant relief. His use of the quarantine laws actually makes some sense. Puts the housing crises off to January, but at least we won’t have this happening during the election.

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    It’s not going to be close at all. Americans are rejecting the dems. Clean sweep. Did you watch the convention? I think their appeal to black Americans was successful. Certainly it was heartfelt and made sense unlike the aura of phoniness the dems cannot shake.

  27. Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    HW, do you hang out with men? If so, I guarantee you that you have child rapists in your social circle. If they get caught, how do you think it will reflect on you? i.e. we could start saying that everyone around you is a child rapist and it would be just as accurate as what you are saying now about the Clintons. Give it a rest.

  28. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    100%

  29. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Wow. Look at Lynne! She is starting to understand how bigot-logic works. Bravo.

  30. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    I think you should think about the other thing HW said though: GEORGE NADER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A KEY WITNESS FOR MUELLER.

  31. Nobody
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    FF –

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/4e/95/7e4e95a9db3add6580e754e6e9569f8d.jpg

  32. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    I also like the general thing being said in this cartoon Nobody. It is in fact great! However, I am still wondering how you think these two clever stories/ comics actually apply within the conversation. Can you explain so we can discuss?

  33. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    This eviction moratorium (really pretty leftist move) was brilliant. Puts off the eviction/housing crises to next year. The pandemic will likely be in full flower in our major metro areas by then.
    The ruling class will want a strongman to ensure they get paid. The upward sucking of wealth will almost (?) be inexorably.
    He did his strut across to Lafayette Park. He has all but called for many more Rittenhouse’s.

    What do you think HW , EOS will the small landlords be able to last till January? Will they be swept away in the coming clean sweep?

  34. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    The President using emergence powers to keep people in their homes. It is a recognition of the true nature of this pandemic that the Trump regime failed to protect us from. But remember, it is just like the flu, it will disappear in the summer, we will have a vaccine by the end of the year.

    Do you see the Trumpian future being spelled out?

  35. Nobody
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    FF-

    I was talking with a friend today back in Michigan. He was asking about how things in Seattle are going…specifically about all the stuff in the news. I told him that the areas where the protests are going on represent such a small area of the city… literally a few blocks. Same thing in Portland. That does not excuse any of the crap going on in either of these cities by hooligans, but it does help indicate the scale. When the rest of the country sees the cropped photos and hears the cropped sound bites, they conflate the nonsense to more of a threat than it is… and unfortunately the voices of those trying to point out the true structural problems are being conflated with the people busting windows, burning buildings, and other general mayhem ( again, in a small geographic area ).

    We are all looking at and listening to the world through straws that are focused on events by others… and we are all flipping our lids over what we see and hear. This myopic approach is not healthy. We are all guilty of it to some degree, but you, my friend, have taken it to new heights. Your nit picking of details makes you sound like a 6th year student of philosophy.

    The events that have triggered all of these protests were serious policing problems, and the Black Lives Matter people are trying to keep the straws focused on this. The Justice Department and the President have the Consent Decree option, but have done nothing with it. Come out of the weeds for a few minutes and discuss that with me rather than disassembling the ordered whole to figure out where the mysterious ghost in the machine resides.

  36. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    I suspect this is the first time we have seen the use of such executive police power on a nation wide basis. He, by legal decree has just denied an entire class of people some of their income and their legal recourse in favor of a second class of people to ensure public safety during this crises.
    That seems pretty draconian to me. That suggest the crises is real, and they have no way out. We are seeing our future displayed to us in real time.

  37. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    I want to make sure I have this right EOS, Biden is the socialist right?
    In who’s interest is Trump acting?

    I wonder if my neighbors the Maurers know that they have to continue to let their deadbeat tenants stay at least another 4 months? The prior eviction moratorium was part of the CARES Act. It provided financial relief for landlords as well as tenants.

  38. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Im trying to think of an analogy. I think the closest thing is the forcible rounding up of those of Japanese origin and putting them in concentration camps. I think it took to the 90s before they received any compensation for their economic losses.
    Apples and oranges but they are both fruit.

  39. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Japanese in 1942 were just about as popular as landlords are on any given day. The big boys will be able to weather the crises and clean up like bandits (?) next spring and summer.
    The most far reaching use of executive power since the onset of WWII will go by without a whimper from those who decry big government.

  40. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    “HW, do you hang out with men? If so, I guarantee you that you have child rapists in your social circle.”

    Prove it then.

  41. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    I’ve heard you say we are all friends with sex abusers before but I thought you were talking about YOU and YOUR friends.

  42. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    What percent of all men do you think rape children, Lynne? You think they are in every group of friends, huh? That’s fascinating you think that. I’m sure there must be some acquaintances I have had over the years that have done all kinds of things but I doubt anyone I call a friend has done anything like that.

  43. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Nobody,

    I like what you offer here. You have offered some great things. The madmen scene, the comic and the little Scotland sheep story just now. There were other things too….All gold! I can see how you would not like my approach but I Mark’s site exemplifies the propaganda going on in our msm and I believe it must be examined and challenged.

    To be honest, I don’t even like my approach. Do you have any idea how boring this is for me? But I think what I am doing is necessary. Your “nitpicking” comment seems to indicate that you believe what I am doing is not necessary and unimportant. That is fine. Point out specific instances of nitpicking you think are unimportant. Explain why those specific instances are not important, in your opinion and we can discuss, if you want.

  44. Nobody
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    FF –

    I would not call nitpicking unimportant. I think you’ll find a lot more nits out there in Mr Trump’s hair than Mark’s though.

  45. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    One moment I am speaking out in defense of landlords, the next I am posting Republican strategists Steve Schmidt. I sure am the radical.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1300857365764374529.html

  46. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    I sure hope iRobert is ok. Have not seen a post in a while.
    I think there is time to rephrase the election. Trump thinks so too. He has pulled all TV adds. We will soon see what his new message will be.

    I think the Democrats should adopt a Churchillian approach. Trump and his defeatist death cult will needlessly cause the deaths of thousands of Americans. He would coexist with the virus enemy. Biden will protect all Americans, WE WILL DEFEAT THE VIRUS that Trump and his incompetent regime has brought into the country.
    Dont fool yourself. The virus is real. Trump and his defeatist know it but they are clueless on how to win. BEAT THE VIRUS WITH BIDEN
    What do you think? Would it motivate folks.

  47. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Nobody,

    JH makes a similar complaint. She regularly offers her opinion about who I should criticize and at what rate. It would never dawn on me to have an opinion like that. If you feel like defending other peoples narratives from criticism then defend their narratives. If you feel like criticizing Trump then do it.

    Again, I appreciate what you have offered and the way you are very polite. It is admirable. EOS does a good job with it too. It’s not for everyone though and it takes all different kinds.

  48. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Biden could be demanding, where are the Federal Resources for the 10 (?) million contact tracers we need? Where is the Leadership mobilizing the support for those people and communities that need quarantine? If we are going to make college and University towns store thousands of covid patients where is the Federal support?
    Billions for a vaccine, but maybe no effective/safe vaccine is possible-and we have a third of the country who wont get vaccinated? We cant force them, so we must CRUSH THE VIRUS OR THE VIRUS CRUSHES US.

  49. Bob
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Guaranteed child rapist in every circle of men. Wow. That’s Q level crazy.

  50. Wobblie
    Posted September 2, 2020 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    This will not be good
    https://apnews.com/5c2f0cf366e560b7f41ebb3c964b099c

  51. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    Some where I missed where the Leader has shut down this illegal surveillance of Americans. HW your deep into the weeds, when did this activity stop?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nsa-spying/u-s-court-mass-surveillance-program-exposed-by-snowden-was-illegal-idUSKBN25T3CK

  52. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    For those interested in understanding the nature of our current economic collapse, Michael Hudson’s latest essay could help

    https://michael-hudson.com/2020/08/how-an-act-of-god-pandemic-is-destroying-the-west/

  53. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Sounds like it is stopping during the Trump administration, huh? Problem for you is because of the malfeasance in the past regarding mass surveillance the Q team has the ability to legally obtain through warrants all the communications of criminals in governments and elsewhere.

  54. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    What evidence do you have it stopped. Did you read the Milwaukee Sentential article I posted ? All those witnesses describing your good buddy Kyle pointing his weapons at them must be mistaken. You wanted proof, there are numerous eyewitnesses. Prove to me Trump has stopped illegal surveillance of Americans-/hope your right, but I dont believe you.

  55. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Is there no disctinction between ‘stopping’ and ‘stopped’ in wobblieworld? How come your guy didn’t do shit about it? In fact he unlawfully spied on the Trump campaign.

  56. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    distinction

  57. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    If I was a prosecutor I would really want to know what interactions and communications there were between members of LE snd armed vigilantes on the streets.
    What did Kyle tell the police? What did the police tell him, and other vigilantes? Why is Rittenhouse hiding in Illinois instead of telling us what he knows?

  58. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    How can you say he is hiding? Do you think you can bend reality with words?

  59. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Domestic terrorist with ties to LE would seem like a very important story. I am so glad we have a thoughtful deliberate white man at the helm. Some one who gets all the facts before acting. MAGA. WLMM

  60. Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Bob. Sure. It is a guess based on the number of women I know who were molested as children. At least 25%* I also know that the vast majority of the men who raped them were never charged too. It really is so widespread that it isn’t crazy to suggest that in any normal social group of men, the odds are one of them is a child molester.

    *The numbers in my personal bubble don’t seem that far off from reality unfortunately
    https://www.ywca.org/wp-content/uploads/WWV-CSA-Fact-Sheet-Final.pdf

    When 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys are molested as children and the perpetrators are 96% men, thinking that you don’t have child molesters in your social circle is Q level denial!

  61. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    I actually agree with Lynne. People don’t realize how big of a problem it is.

  62. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    But there are individuals who abuse hundreds of those children. Child sexual abuse is extremely common but I think you are overestimating the number of perps.

    Alarmingly in the past you used this idea to defend the sex abuse milieu surrounding the Clinton’s. You said “Even if they did then so the fuck what? We are all friends with sex offenders.” Out of your friends how many do you think are molesters, Lynne? Why are you friends with them? If I found out someone I count as a friend did that I would turn them in.

  63. Bob
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Lynne, you’re as off the deep end on the issue of sexism as HWad is on everything else in the world. Your heart is in the right place but that shit is just crazy.

  64. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    I bet Gina Haspel Could find out what Kyle knows by dinner time, what do you think HW, EOS, there maybe more conspirators, more innocent lifes at risk.

  65. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Oh, did you not get enough Q yesterday?

    Sep 2 2020 11:54:50 (EST) NEW
    Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
    Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
    Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
    Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
    Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
    Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
    Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
    Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
    Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
    Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
    Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
    Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
    Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
    Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
    Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
    Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
    Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
    Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
    Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
    Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
    Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

    Q

  66. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Bob, I dont know a single woman who has not had a man expose himself on the street to them. Or a woman who has not been groped in crowded public spaces. Hell our zLeader brags about his male privilege.
    I try to keep in mind the kinds of precautions my wife and daughter must make in their daily lives. I am reminded of my privilege all the time.
    Try living with and listening to woman, you will learn much

  67. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    At first I thought he was a lone wolf gone rogue. Now we know there is at least two other conspirators. So now it is looking more and mote like a well planned terrorist attack on protesters. Does the terrorist gang have more planned? How deeply imbedded in the Kenosha police are there terrorist operatives? Is Bidens life at risk?
    Gina could get the answers of these questions, or we can let normal investigation run its course.

  68. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie,

    Provide your evidence for your theory. Have the mystery gunmen been identified at the first scene? Can you identify them? The “protestors” were gunned up too. We have evidence of that. A lot of evidence. It APPEARS to me you are talking out your ass. SOME PEOPLE SAY you are embarrassing yourself again.

  69. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie is a troll. No one could be this dumb.

  70. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Fearless Factfinder,did you read the Sentential piece?
    Conspirator 1 Kyle Rittenhouse the gun man
    Conspirator 2 the “friend” who provided the gun—Kyles attorney has stated this, we dont know the identity of this criminal yet
    Conspirator 3 “ In another clip, an unidentified armed white man in a baseball cap and a ballistic vest — an unofficial uniform of the self-styled militias — says this: “You know what the cops told us today? They were like, ‘We’re gonna push ‘em down by you, ’cause you can deal with them and then we’re gonna leave.'”

    Conspirator 4 and more lead into the Kenosha police

    If I was a prosecutor I would want answers, bring on Gina.

  71. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    I told you to watch “Z”. They only have so many plays in the play book. This one is pretty common, kind of like a pass down the middle.

  72. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Everyone been watching the outrage over Trumps executive order depriving landlords of their rights (temporary of course)
    Yeah Ive not seen any either

  73. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Then of course there is the guy he called, yet another unidentified conspirator.

  74. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know the article you are referencing. Can you share it again?

    Are the three guys who attacked Kyle and got shot co- conspirators too? You kind of need them to play the role of attackers for this plot to all come to together so cleanly don’t you? What about the people who filmed all of the wrong doing by JoJo and friends? Are those journalist part of the setup? It is rumored that Kyle ate a subway sandwich earlier in the day. Is Subway providing supplies to terrorists as part of a right wing plot to murder JoJo, skateboard guy and Glock man?

  75. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    The fascist will not announce having taken over. But a good sign is when emergency decrees deprive specific classes of people of legal rights (always temporary and for the public order of course).

  76. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    He reportedly called Dominick, numbnuts. How do you not know that by now? It’s like talking to a crackhead. How is it that you simultaneously know so little but pretend to know so much?

    Before this ends it is going to be Wobblie, JH, Cassandra, MM, and JBro in a foxhole together. LOL. Sounds like hell to me.

  77. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2020/08/30/witnesses-detail-kenosha-shooting-seeing-kyle-rittenhouse-protest-jacob-blake-wisconsin-17-year-old/5656907002/?fbclid=IwAR1UyVD5IlXrezEEM2jR5GPLGagDYoxewnOFbTYjGzDBZpfsDrOezR-LUq8

    Kyle may have thrown a monkey wrench into the plan, they might not have expected him to come back. Walking down the street with his hands up might have made it difficult to eliminate him, perhaps they are still learning the play book.
    All speculative but if I was a prosecutor I would want answers sooner rather than later.

  78. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Who is Dominick? Did he call in the attack after Kyle called him ?

  79. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    I only know what I read in newspapers and read about, of course this not my first rodeo either.

  80. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    You would think the victim of such senseless violence would have been all over reporting this to the police. Was Dominick on it, making sure the police were on the case?

  81. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I found the answer. He did not call the police, rather we find out, “ Dominic Black, a friend of Rittenhouse, told investigators the teen called him near midnight, saying Rittenhouse had just shot someone.”
    Investigators. Not a 911 call. Why didn’t Dominick call 911?

  82. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    They are all in on it Wobblie. HW, Dominick and even Nancy Pelosi’s hair stylist. It is an orchestrated operation to make you guys look dumb. Everybody is in on it. It’s all a big setup.

  83. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Good job Wobblie. We will figure it all out together. TTYL

  84. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Maybe he did not call the police because that would have been a tell that the police were the co-conspirators? It’s like Dominick is trying to hide something….Maybe trying to coverup a gang banger hit job which the police co-orchestrated with local crime cartels…

  85. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    No I think it is local racist cops working with local racist gang members in their “militia”. Typical play. Beat up and terrorize some of the protestors and see what happens, just point a testosterone driven 17 year old in the right direction.
    I would want answers. Of course with Kyle hiding behind extradition I doubt the Wisconsin prosecutor s have been able to talk with him.
    What did Kyle tell that cop when he leaned in the window after the shooting? What did the cop say?

    Of course we have a total opportunistic President who was not going to deliberation and fact finding get in the way MAGA WLMM

  86. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    In support of your theory, it is 100% true that SOME ARE SAYING Kyle’s social media is filled with misogyny and white supremacist messages. Do you have any info on the people who were the victims of the coordinated hit jobs? Black ladies, I’m guessing?

    Seriously though, like I already said (!) there are questions that need to be asked of the Kenosha PD. I wonder if there are many people who object? I’m guessing zero. Where are the goalposts again Wobblie? I thought they were 3 feet away. Now they are 30 feet away. Stupid goalposts!

  87. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    You have also mentioned Kyle’s testosterone levels several times. Do we have verification yet that his testosterone levels were very high? These are things I would want to know.

  88. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    You pointed out earlier, I think, that there is an obvious pattern of white supremacists killing other white people instead of black people. I guess to divert attention from their true motivation to commit racist acts of murder? It’s all in the playbook, I’m sure.

  89. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Nobody was right. I was getting bogged down in details. Fact collection was obscuring the narrative right in front of my face. This is a lot more fun!!!!

  90. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Actually kyle is objecting. He is pretty central and is hiding in juvenile detention in Illinois. Be another 30 days before any hearing. Prosecutors wont be able to ask him any questions until they can bring him to Wisconsin.
    Im putting even money on Kyle dying in an incident in Illinois jail before he is ever asked these questions.

  91. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    I dont know if Kyle was taking steroids, the way he whaled away at that woman in the parking lot, maybe. I am mainly pointing out that young males of our species have a great deal more testosterone running through them than most of the rest of the population.

  92. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Two life sentences could be a pretty big motivator for Kyle to want to mitigate the harm his future is going to suffer.
    Turning him into a hero, raising hundreds of thousands for his lawyers, making sure he can avoid answering difficult questions for as long as possible. Probably put his life in great danger. But he is just a political tool now.
    You would think a victim would want to cooperate.

  93. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    I would never take that bet with you Wobblie. It APPEARS the fraternal order of police likely already put out a jailhouse hit on Kyle via a group disguised as a “defund the police group”. Look up “Jail house lawyers” for more info. SOME PEOPLE SAY the moves the fraternal order police are making is all in the playbook.

  94. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    It APPEARS the fraternal order of police also took away his gofundme access. SOME PEOPLE SAY they did that to limit his ability to hire lawyers that are not “in on it”. It goes deeper than many know. Even some people at the rodeo do not get it. Racist cops cooperating with racist gang bangers using the tools of the tech sector. The technology changes but it is all the same old plays in the playbook.

    (Z is for Zoro is to speak.)

  95. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Not having looked at anything you posted, organized labor has its share of corruption, and I suspect police unions are more corrupt than most.
    I was thinking of the lotteries they might be running on the south side about who gets to be busted in Antoch, and thrown into juvi. Could be a money making opportunity for the right up and coming kid.

  96. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    I pay my bets when I loose, ask HW.

  97. Wobblie
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    The lawyers and propagandist are going to make out like bandits.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/nearly-dollar1-million-has-been-raised-for-kenosha-shooting-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-according-to-a-christian-fundraising-site-and-the-teens-lawyers/ar-BB18GFQd?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP

  98. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 3, 2020 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    I’m not afraid of you not paying. I can’t bet against you because we on the same side of the rodeo barrel on this one.

  99. Wobblie
    Posted September 4, 2020 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hjqx-ywIWr8

  100. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 4, 2020 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Thanks Wobblie. You nailed it with that video. Sticking with the cowboy theme some white supremacist types offered this video on YouTube:

    https://youtu.be/yt0WnH-N22g

    It takes all different kinds.

  101. iRobert
    Posted September 9, 2020 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Trump sounds especially deflated today.

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