[above: U.S. Attorney General William Barr winks at Donald Trump moments after the President announces that, as part of his new Combatting Violent Crime in American Cities initiative, federal officers will be deployed to more American cities to put down what he describes as a “radical movement” to “defund, dismantle and dissolve our police departments.”]
This afternoon, in the East Room of the White House, accompanied by Acting Director of Homeland Security Chad Wolf and Attorney General William Barr — and with the election less than four months away — Donald Trump announced “a surge of federal law enforcement into American communities,” which he claimed were, “plagued by violent crime.” And first on this list of newly targeted cities, of course, was Chicago, a city that Donald Trump has often called out in the past in his stream-of-consciousness rants meant to resonate with the ‘paranoids, kooks, know-nothings and bigots‘ who have chosen to remain in his party of white grievance.
“(The) Department of Justice will immediately surge federal law enforcement to the city of Chicago,” he said. “The FBI, ATF, DEA, U.S. Marshals Service, and Homeland Security will together be sending hundreds of skilled law enforcement officers to Chicago to help drive down violent crime” and quell what he referred to as a “radical movement” to “defund, dismantle and dissolve our police departments.” Here’s the video.
Trump announces campaign surge of federal officers: "Today, I am announcing the department of justice will immediately surge federal law enforcement to the city of Chicago. The FBI, ATF, Dea, U.S. Marshals service, and Homeland Security …" pic.twitter.com/17TPQeySRI
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 22, 2020
And, here, for those of you who might not have a dictionary handy, is the Merriam-Webster definition of fascism: “a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” And it’s that last part, that I’d like to focus on right now.
Donald Trump is not putting federal officers on the ground in Chicago because he cares about the young black men who are dying there every day as a result of gang violence. If he were, he would have sent them in 2017, when the murder rate was higher. No, he’s sending troops now because he knows that footage of officers hitting protesters with clubs plays well with his white, middle-aged, law-and-order-loving base, and because he’d do absolutely anything to keep people from discussing the fact that ICU beds are filling up and 146,183 Americans are now dead from a disease that he failed to control — a disease that he assured us would just “disappear”.
If Donald Trump really wanted to stop the violence in Chicago, he’d send social workers into the communities where the violence is happening, and open up funding to organizations creating jobs in the area. Instead, he’s sending armed officers in riot gear to put down protests. And that should tell you everything you need to know about what’s happening right now and why. As Tom Ridge, the first Secretary of Homeland Security warned a few days ago, “The department (of Homeland Security) was established to protect America from the ever-present threat of global terrorism. It was not established to be the president’s personal militia.” And that’s exactly what’s happening right now in cities like Portland and Chicago. Donald Trump has so thoroughly taken over the Department Homeland Security and the Department of Justice, that he’s able to use their officers in this way, for what are clearly political purposes. [Ridge, a former two-term Republican governor of Pennsylvania, also said, “It would be a cold day in hell before I would consent to an uninvited, unilateral intervention into one of my cities.”]
This is clearly about politics. Donald Trump said himself yesterday that these federal campaigns were being targeted at what he referred to as poorly-run “Democrat” cities. Again, this isn’t about stopping violence, or providing help that these communities so desperately need. This is about showing himself to be a strong “law and order” leader, and riling up the base for war.
Trump needed something bold.
Do you remember, during the midterms, when he warned about caravans of diseased and violent gang members who were heading toward our border — caravans that never actually materialized? Well, this is the same thing. Only now, the imagined threat isn’t just outside our borders, but in America’s left-leaning cities, where he’d have us believe that socialist radicals are plotting the destruction of our nation. The lie didn’t work in the midterms, and it likely won’t work now, but the damage that will be done in the process is immeasurable. Donald Trump would rather see the nation burn than face responsibility for his actions, and those who remain in the Republican Party are apparently OK with that. They’ve had multiple opportunities to step in and stop this slow descent toward fascism, and, at every turn, they’ve decided to look the other way. And now these cowards — these people who used to go on and on about the sanctity of “states rights” — are looking the other way as federal officers, over the protests of democratically elected state and local officials, are essentially going into U.S cities and placing them under martial law. [Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said today, “Under no circumstances will I allow Donald Trump’s troops to come to Chicago and terrorize our residents.”]
His only chance to win reelection, and avoid facing the consequences for his many crimes, is to create chaos, and convince the American people that, no matter how bad things look now, they’ll be worse under Biden. We cannot allow for it to happen. We cannot allow for him to do this. We cannot allow him establish martial law, and then use it as pretext to postpone an election… which, at this point, would not surprise me in the least.
One last thing, just in case you missed it. DHS acting director Chad Wolf, a few days ago, when asked about these federal officers picking up peaceful protestors off the street in Portland, said, “Because we don’t have that local support, that local law enforcement support, we are having to go out and proactively arrest individuals, and we need to do that because we need to hold them accountable.” You read that right… The acting director of Homeland Security — who, by the way, was never confirmed by the Senate — just defended the practice of “proactive arrest” in America.
Protest now, my friends. You may not be able to later.
updated: According to reporting in Bloomberg, what’s happening in Chicago is different from what’s happening in Portland. The forces in Chicago (Operation Legend) are apparently coordinating with state and local law enforcement. As my friend Nathan just noted, “Sounds like Trump is trying to conflate the two things in an effort to normalize what he did in Portland.” Either that, or he’s trying to take credit for the Chicago action, making it look like an extension of what he started in Portland.
updated: The response from Trump to Tom Ridge that we all knew was coming.
updated: The Inspectors General from the DOJ and DHS are opening investigations into what is happening in Portland.
The last shreds of our institutions are still working…we’ll see for how long. It is heartening to see https://t.co/3OtnneKvWd
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) July 23, 2020
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So now we are full on living in a Phillip K Dick novel. Does Chad a have a room full of PreCogs at his disposal? Are they going to put the protestors in some virtual reality before they commit their crimes? Or maybe they are already in that VR?
BTW – on the back of our dimes is a torch bundled inside of a set of sticks. It is known as a fasci. If you look at the older mercury dimes, it is more explicit with the ax bundled with a set of sticks.
Nope. It’s an appropriate response to a communist insurrection led by a BLM movement funded by more than 500 million dollars from George Soros and US corporations.
I don’t think Barky understands what ‘violent crime’ means. Social workers are going to talk South Side gangbangers out of shooting people. The naivete level is unreal.
‘Do you remember, during the midterms, when he warned about caravans of diseased and violent gang members who were heading toward our border — caravans that never actually materialized?”
They made it to the border and caused a humanitarian crisis in Tijuana. Why is everything you say backwards? Wtf.
Actually it’s Christo-fascism. You forgot about the Muslim ban, but there’s a lot to list. Get ready for the States of Gilead, with a ruskie tinge, if we don’t win this fight.
HW for a law and order type you’re pretty soft on the war on drugs. I’ll leave this here for you when the federal agents visit our area,
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/federal-crime/medical-marijuana-federal-laws.htm
I knew we were in trouble when the government started limiting the circulation of coins in the economy.
Wasn’t that a sign HW? EOS?
An administration that can’t mobilize to handle a pandemic, can’t mobilize to impose a police state.
iR, letting a pandemic run wild, collapsing the economy and destabilizing the nation seems like a perfect precursor to attempting a police state. Getting people to behave violently is proving to be much easier than getting them to behave altruistically towards their fellow neighbors of a different political stripe.
I wouldn’t say it is fascism, just yet … but the seeds are clearly being planted.
Trump, and many on the right already routinely label any kind of dissent or protest as “Antifa.”
Trump has already labelled “Antifa” as a terrorist organization.
Following the November election, when the outcome may be unclear and/or contested, there is likely to be widespread protests.
Then, all they’ll need to do is call any kind of push-back (peaceful or violent, organized or unorganized” as “terrorism” – and voila.
Since, by then, they will already have pre-staged a shadow federal force in most major cities, all the ingredients will be there for a new American fascism.
If you really think this officers being sent to Chicago are going address “South Side gangbangers”, your naïveté level is unreal.
Aloha EOS and the death cult are clearly delusional. Insurrection? What absolute insanity. Just like the constant stream of lies about the virus, they must constantly repeat these lies till they convince themselves of its truth. Self-delusion the hall mark of insanity.
“a law and order type”
Oh is that my type? Anarchy is fine with me. I would prefer it if only we could mature as an intelligent species and no longer need policing. There is simply no need for “marijuana” laws today so abolishing them would further that ideal. From what I’ve seen the President has been pretty chill on Cannabis sativa compared to Obama and the other presidents in the past eighty years.
“If you really think this officers being sent to Chicago are going address “South Side gangbangers”, your naïveté level is unreal.”
Barky is the one who said send social workers to solve the problem. I don’t know what this officers is going address and don’t claim to.
“Trump, and many on the right already routinely label any kind of dissent or protest as “Antifa.”
Why would the president need to label a group that already has a label they made for their self? You act like it’s not even real, you gaslighting fool.
The white Navy vet seen in videos getting beaten for approaching DHS officers in Portland speaks:
https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1285957415918276608?s=20
Question: Lightfoot doesn’t want these forces in Chicago. How can she keep them out?
What more can be done to stop this nightmare?
Read an interesting fact about Wolf. Apparently, an acting director can serve for 210 days. He’s currently in the role for more than 250 days.
Aloha notice how the death cult looks for any distraction. HW is now an anarchist, but yesterday it was anarchist insurrectionist that were the problem. The entire world view propounded by Trump is disintegrating before their eyes.
Is it true that HW is supporting anarchy? Then by simple logic, he must be an anarchist, in the same way that people who support BLM are Marxist communists.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-support-violent-tactics
Therefore HW is really antifa, and any denial by him is simple gaslighting on his part. Strong denials are just a false flag to hide his true intentions. We aren’t skilled enough to decrypt his hidden agenda.
Once you have armed forces on the streets, it’s easy to postpone an election, citing security concerns.
Aloha FF here are your latest talking points. It is all Abbott and DeSantis’s fault for acting too soon. Time to throw them under the Trump bus. MAGA
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/conway-scolded-states-reopening-too-quickly
The Philly DA is planning to press charges and have a jury of Philadelphians decide the fate of secret police kidnappers.
Our elected officials need to stand up and push back, aggressively. If a member of the national guard saw an extrajudicial arrest happening, I would expect them to shoot back.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/22673/philadelphia-district-attorney-larry-krasner-federal-agents-trump-police
There’s this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-22/philly-d-a-threatens-to-arrest-federal-agents
I heard on NPR this morning that Operation Legend has absolutely nothing to do with the shenanigans in Portland, and forces in Chicago are supposed to work closely with local law enforcement. Lightfoot is ok with this if true.
Sounds like Trump is trying to conflate the two things in an effort to normalize what he did in Portland. Or he’s just stupid. I actually vote for both
I am for enlightened anarchy as the ultimate ideal and that has been consistent for a long time. I think for myself. You don’t define me. By the way there is a school of thought that anarchy is the farthest right you can get. It’s total personal responsibility.
Antifa is an actual group with members not a concept. It’s shocking to see people try to flat deny something so prevalent. They are anarcho-communists which is completely different than what I want for humanity.
HW,
Neither anarchy nor democracy are viable forms of government. They are both forms of mob rule.
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/four-months-unprecedented-government-malfeasance/?amp%3Butm_source=housefile&%3Butm_medium=email&%3Butm_content=june2020govmalfeasance&utm_campaign=imprimis&_hsmi=91893262&_hsenc=p2ANqtz–PhgsESByIhuLvXcB_CN-ef4g-f0CBupnAJ-Pqc-pIeNAZFbHwTlBMXmGf46nCjd_9yofkahhFvmlDwxmrJ87oS_9Kcg
@ EOS
Well, I agree with her first sentence.
“Over the last four months, Americans have lived through what is arguably the most consequential period of government malfeasance in U.S. history. …”
The rest of the piece? Not so much.
EOS,
What you’ve said about a general (voluntary) strategy of the vulnerable populations and infected isolating themselves makes sense. Those considered not vulnerable and testing negative should be able to work. I agree we have to keep the economy going, as much as possible. That is why wearing masks, socially distancing, frequently sanitizing and hand washing with soap, for everyone would help to flatten the curve (slow the spread) and prevent medical personnel and hospitals from being overwhelmed. All of this is very sensible, and I assume you agree with it.
Why hasn’t the president presented this strategy, and called on all Americans to work together, voluntarily, in this common purpose, to slow the spread as much as possible while keeping as much of the economy open and operating as possible?
Aloha thug who killed Floyd charged with tax fraud. 95000 in off duty security work, laundering his payolla.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/23/894535746/former-minnesota-police-officer-derek-chauvin-charged-with-tax-evasion
During WWII, the American public wasn’t ordered to give up copper and other metal items. They were asked to give what they could and were willing to in order to help achieve the necessary production of ammunition, weapons, and other needed items for the fight.
The American people responded with enormous patriotism and generosity when called upon to do so in a common effort. Why hasn’t Trump done this?
Aloha More terrorist.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2020/07/22/arizona-teachers-protest-against-reopening-schools-in-person-classes-amid-covid-19-crisis/5487235002/?utm_campaign=wp_the_daily_202&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_daily20
“HW,
Neither anarchy nor democracy are viable forms of government. They are both forms of mob rule.”
The qualifier ‘enlightened’ to me says mobs would be a thing of the past. It’s an ideal. If anyone tells you it is impossible they are lying. I don’t see why we could not experience a global awakening that changes everything.
We have built-in bio-hardware in the form of the nervous system capable of achieving cosmic consciousness or as some think of it Christ or Krishna consciousness. Every human being the natural genius they are and not forever the stunted larval form of humanity that is the old guard mold.
Aloha EOS and HW would argue that this is foreign support for the insurgents.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scotland-us-exports-tear-gas-rubber-bullets-riot-shields-blm-protests-a9560586.html?fbclid=IwAR0c6FTqM_xNp-vBXS3aPDidW5W48ANy5FaspbuJuaihsWZSVTZSI9GAuWk
All you do is make up stupid lies about people all day. HW would do this and that. HW thinks bleah bleah bleah. It’s pathetic. Are you resigned to trying to talk about me as much as possible being the best you can do? You are going down but going down swinging hahahaha.
He’s probably seen how far I get with asking questions.
This is what Mayor Duggan has to say about it. There has been no insurrection.
“There could be no possible justification for such an action. The Detroit Police Department has had the support of the Detroit community in making sure our City did not have a single store looted or a single fire started during the protests. Unlike nearly every other major city in the country, the Detroit Police Department never requested assistance from the National Guard – we handled our issues as a community. We definitely have no need for any federal presence being sent in now.”
All I can say is that this exposes people on the right as being the horrible dishonest hypocrites that they are. They support a president whose behind 150,000 American deaths due to this virus and call themselves “pro-life”. They go on and on about how they need guns to protect themselves from a tyrannical government but look the other way if the tyranny is not directed at them. Of course, they don’t like the idea of “defund the police” because they want the police to keep their knees on the necks of oppressed classes.
I don’t know what to say other than the only real solution is continued peaceful protests and media coverage showing the people being set upon by these law enforcement officers. I also hope that local police will go and do what they can to protect the protesters even if it means arresting the federal officers. I fully support Philidelphia on that!
“He’s probably seen how far I get with asking questions.”
Go back and read my answers carefully. I answered you about the death rate but your response was garbage. Still you kept it up like a gaslighting little bitch.
I’ve answered just about every damn thing. Do my questions get answered? Nope, it’s just absurd denials of reality based on evidence. There are no riots, only peaceful protestors. Oh! Okay! If you say so then that’s all it takes.
What questions would you like me to answer, HW?
There are hours of footage of what can only be called ‘rioting’. You are in some twilight dimension where what is isn’t and what isn’t is.
Speaking of twilight zone type shit the pentagon is supposed to release information on recovered off-world craft?! Can 2020 be for real??? Trying to pull the alien card to justify a UN takeover? Werner Von Braun’s assistant claimed he told her a fake alien invasion would be used to achieve this.
How could maiming and killing other human beings be called peaceful?
People who call the protests peaceful are referring to the majority of the protests and protesters. They don’t consider criminals using the black lives matter movement as cover as part of the movement.
Keep the questions coming.
For HW and FF, who always claim intellectual superiority. Dunning Kruger anyone?
https://psmag.com/news/trumps-appeal-to-the-cognitively-challenged
Goof news via the ACLU:
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-issues-restraining-order-federal-agents-portland
Is it criminal to throw objects capable of serious injury at people?
“For HW and FF, who always claim intellectual superiority. Dunning Kruger anyone?”
I don’t think highlighting your logical failures equates to “claiming intellectual superiority”. Another logical fail.
HW, yes. It is and any police officers who do so should be charged and locked up. Same with protesters.
I’m surprised you are for arresting those people. That would be many thousands of arrests. it’s documented on video your bad apples have thrown bricks, frozen bottles and fireworks (the big kind) many many times and that’s only the projectiles.
HW: “Is it criminal to throw objects capable of serious injury at people?”
Yes, of course, and the vast majority of Americans and most protestors want those people arrested. They undermine the peaceful protestors.
The image Trump is using in his campaign Literature of unruly protestors is from Ukraine. One wonders why they couldn’t use an image from the US when there is supposedly widespread violence.
Or maybe he just wants his idiot supporters to think that’s the case…
Weak sauce:
https://apple.news/AebzOMjhUQk6UImwUe4Y0rw
Let’s be very clear here. Destruction of property is not the same thing as violence towards other humans. There has been some destruction of property on the part of protestors; there has been very very little violence towards any other people and many incidences of protestors protecting each other and police from assault.
The same can not be said of the police.
iRobert is partially right. Violence often works against movements. And is always illegal and punishable as it should be. It is also sometimes effective in making very clear that the people do have power and they are not taking this bullshit anymore. In fact, there is no movement from suffragettes to civil rights that did not succeed without at least some portion of the movement (not most by any means) making clear that the risk of not conceding to demands of non violent protestors was violent protest.
Non-violence alone has not improved Conditions for anyone. It’s a powerful tool and a valid personal moral choice. But it does not work on its own.
Trump supporters don’t like white supremacists but you smear them with actually being that on account of individuals such as the Charlottesville car attacker. It’s smears when it comes to Trump, excuses when it is anti-Trump.
“there has been very very little violence towards any other people ”
I have posted serious violence already. There have been a number of murders under BLM auspices, some black. You have to flat deny direct evidence to get your propaganda off now.
Uh HW, Trump himself called those white supremacists “very fine people” so I think it is fair to say that he is at least in some way including them in a way that legitimately opens him A
and those who support him to criticisms about their racism.
Some destruction – over 3 million dollars. And none of you have a clue how you are being played.
No he did not and he made that clear. He said he was not talking about white supremacists and they should be condemned. You have to lie to hold on to your very existence. If you allow for the truth you fall.
17 = ?
https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1286469606090190849
EOS is destruction of property the same thing as violence towards people?
$3 million in insured property damage v billions flowing to the incarceral system. Jesus would hate your priorities— but he’d still love you as a human for whom he has some hope of redemption. Keep praying…
EOS,
Her parents met at Harvard. I advise you to not answer her Ivy League lawyer questions.
Silence is violence. Yes or no?
Soups are sandwiches. Admit it’s true you Christian piece of shit.
Anybody have anything to say regarding the British Open?
I’m not a Christian. But I play one on the Internet.
I was always curious what they would call it if Scotland declared independence.
Why are Catholics sometimes considered separate from Christians.
There may also be direct use of mercenary contractors in these units. That’s some serious neo-Pinkerton shit thats not going to end well for agent orange. Bunch of Generals be like, WTF?
https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0
Aloha no surprise here JB. The strategies and tactics used in the provinces are always turned against the serfs in the heart of empire. Mercenaries trained in the habit of dehumanizing their opponents. Who would have thought.
Hey that is not an elephant in the room , it is our family pet. We’ve normalized our government behavior these last 19 years.
“Anybody have anything to say regarding the British Open?”
Derpity derp. Conflict of interest laws don’t apply to the President. There’s this thing called Article 2 of the Constitution that says the President can do anything he wants.
HW That must be Article 2 Section 5. *rolls eyes*
Thanks for saying that, HW.
” There’s this thing called Article 2 of the Constitution that says the President can do anything he wants.”
Wonder why Obama, the constitutional Law Scholar, didn’t;t figure that one out?
Article 1; section 9; clause 8: “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”
JH doesn’t like logic, she prefers false dichotomies. As if one has to choose between property damage or human damage. Rational persons oppose both.
Aloha, mean while another 1000 of us died from the trumpvirus yesterday. Property rights are just as important as human lives. Thanks for pointing that out again EOS.
Aloha , death cult mobilization in small town Texas.
https://livingbluetx.com/2020/07/violent-racists-swarm-protest-in-weatherford-graphic/?cn-reloaded=1
Aloha, “ had the potential to become violent” is now grounds to declare BLM peaceful protest “ unlawful” and carry out mass arrests. Free speech is someting that you pay to use. Corporations pay cash, people pay fines and jail time. MAGA
https://omaha.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/75-80-people-taken-into-custody-during-protest-in-midtown-omaha/article_749d385a-280f-563b-a7e6-d7e389bc1c49.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
Aloha, having suspicions that someone resisted arrest is grounds for arrest? “Potential violence” and “suspicions “ grounds for heading off to jail.
It says they were obstructing traffic. They stayed in the streets after it was declared an unlawful assembly. Why do you think lying helps your cause?
Aloha more death cult attacks on BLM protestors in Texas
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/one-man-dead-suspect-detained-after-shooting-at-black-lives-matter-protest-in-texas-police/
What do you expect?
“Initial reports indicate the victim may have been carrying a rifle, and approached suspect vehicle,” she said. “Suspect was in the vehicle and shot the victim.”
Aloha, taking their cue from those very fine folks in Charlotteville.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/07/26/protester-shot-dead-after-confrontation-at-black-lives-matter-rally/amp/
Aloha hand in hand with fascism comes corruption. The top dogs in Ohio’s death cult, Nothing but grifters.
https://www.cantonrep.com/business/20200726/authorities-say-rsquodark-moneyrsquo-can-easily-fuel-bribery-scheme
Wobblie,
Nobody is equating property and human lives except you and JH. Destroying either is a crime, except, of course, if the life is located in a womb.
You would not likely think “It’s just property” if it were YOUR property and you worked hard and sacrificed your whole life to obtain it.
People are saying it was a shoot-out and the victim shot first. First you hear the sound of an AK-47 which the victim was carrying firing then you hear a handgun which the driver was carrying.
Aloha right wing provacators have been driving their cars into the midst of BLM protestors for weeks, and the police have just stood by and “monitored”.
Blocking traffic is a civil misdemeanor
, obvious grounds for arresting and shooting your fellow citizens. MAGA
It’s BLAOW! BLAOW! BLAOW! BLAOW! BLAOW!
Then Blat Blat Blat Blat
Peaceful protestor opened fire on someone who actually knows how defend their self and got toasted.
Aloha car used as weapon once again
https://mobile.twitter.com/chadloder/status/1287279078186205184
Aloha death cult members have a hard time with memory
https://www.wibw.com/content/news/Man-who-drove-into-Charlotteville-crowd-convicted-of-first-degree-murder-502205491.html
How was it a weapon? It looked like they just made a right turn and stopped when they were set upon. Being such a liar only makes commies look worse.
You think it should be no problem to open fire on an American citizen for driving where a gaggle of dorks think people shouldn’t drive. It’s beyond absurd. I consider such attempts to obliterate reality with lies to be pathological in the extreme. It’s completely against everything I stand for.
That’s one mentally ill guy who may well have been put up to it/set up etc. Furthermore he was supposed to be part of a group that goes totally against what the vast majority of Trump supporters are about.
When black people were murdered at the CHOP by other CHOP denizens you didn’t say one damn thing.
https://youtu.be/uhm-nbr4zhg
Aloha — Quick run and hide
The death cult at its best
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8561833/amp/PICTURED-Protester-shot-dead-Austin-protest.html
Condoning open warfare on Americans with arms and everything… You really do want a civil war. It’s not going to work. There aren’t enough dangerous derps willing to do this shit; some thousands nation-wide. By definition peaceful protestors are not going to be wild about violent and destructive crimes done in the name of what they are protesting.
You are the death cult. As Cliff Burton wrote when a man lies he murders a part of the world.
…crimes done in the name of what they are protesting *for*
Aloha Police say murdered man was mot one of the shooters.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kvue.com/amp/article/news/local/downtown-austin-shooting-congress-sixth-street/269-9cd396c1-169c-45be-9529-c1e4662f838e
Aloha
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/07/what-we-know-about-the-austin-blm-protest-shooting.html
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2020/07/26/man-fatally-shot-at-protest-in-austin/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
Hyborian Warlord
Posted July 26, 2020 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
People are saying it was a shoot-out and the victim shot first. First you hear the sound of an AK-47 which the victim was carrying firing then you hear a handgun which the driver was carrying.
Trying to make a point?
If you come up to someone in their car with a gun pointed at them you might just get ventilated.
Aloha you use your car as a weapon you end up going to jail. The murderer will end up in prison just like his jackbooted buddy in Charlotteville. As much as the death cult cheers the violence, have faith, the people will prevail.
They stopped right away. Who got hurt? You can’t wait to get up every day so you can tell some more lies.
Did you know if you point a gun at someone it’s okay for them to shoot you?
The death cult and its celebration of senseless violence, thanks for the demo HW.
More death cult agent provacators
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/27/1964268/–White-supremacists-arrested-while-trying-to-amplify-protest-violence-Richmond-mayor-says
No group has perpetrated more senseless violence than leftist protestors have in two months, let alone throughout the years. It is a fact. I put up hours of it way back in 2016. In 2020 there is much more. You have no leg to stand on.
“Boogaloo boys” = obviously phony
That’s amazing you buy this garbage.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=2361783817460961&external_log_id=37f2cb2a-84be-483b-b46c-d90bfb7f35ba&q=deadliest%20virus
Well THAT^^’s hysterical EOS. PS communism is not the same thing as fascism. Fascist states can be any economic system.
If you hate statism, why are you ok with an adhoc federal police force firing weaponry on citizens who are protesting, 99.9% of them peacefully?
How can you watch something like that and not see it as clearly inflammatory when there are actual flames used in it?
Thanks for the belly laugh. You are a true comic genius.
“99.9% of them peacefully”
Only one out of a thousand are throwing bricks, molotov cocktails and frozen bottles, wielding tactical weapons such as batons, throwing industrial fireworks, shooting people, committing arson, looting, vandalism, stabbing, causing serious bodily harm with all kinds of weapons…It goes on and on. You have no leg.
The presentation is extremely cheesy but the content of the video is true enough. I don’t think communism is the end goal. The young, well intentioned, brainwashed Marxists causing chaos and harm are just being used by the Dems for a few months in the lead up to the election. The victims are being sacrificed for the great cause: Joe Biden.
I include the young idealists as victims. TPUSA is a great group. A lot of responsibility falls on the professors and the people like Mark and Jean who ought to have the courage to stand up against what is obviously wrong.
Hyborian Warlord
Posted July 26, 2020 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
It’s BLAOW! BLAOW! BLAOW! BLAOW! BLAOW!
Then Blat Blat Blat Blat
Peaceful protestor opened fire on someone who actually knows how defend their self and got toasted.
But that’s not what happened. You have no leg. Admit that you were wrong and hasty in your judgement of events, and I might consider that you might have a point. Otherwise you have no leg.
That’s fine. I’m not married to that possibility. Pointing a firearm at someone is bad enough. I have two good legs and I’m standing fine. Mr. antifa boogaloo boy shooting victim said on camera he was carrying his AK-47 because he thought the opposition were too pussified to do anything about it. To think of a mob running up on a car and one of them pulling an AK and expecting not to get ventilated…It’s pure insanity.
It seems Anonymous is right. The police claimed that the driver who shot Garett Foster is the one who shot first. He said Garett Foster was pointing a rifle at him. The second round of shots were not from Foster’s gun either. A third party shot at the shooter’s car as the car drove away. There are some fuzzy images that seem to support the idea that Garrett did have his gun pointed toward the driver. I can’t tell if he was intentionally pointing the gun at the driver. To me it looks like it may have been reasonable for the driver to interpret the angle of the gun as being intentionally pointed at him.
Takeaway for mostly peaceful protestors: Do not bring guns, do not block traffic, do not surround a person’s car, do not touch a person’s car, do not approach a person’s car with a fucking rifle pointed in the direction of the driver.
Lots of suckers are getting ventilated behaving like that. These people haven’t thought this shit through. The afterglow of these nightly violence-gasms is going to wear off quick especially as more of these domestic terrorists get prosecuted. How are these antifa derps going to survive in prison? It’s going to be bad. I bet a lot are thinking twice right now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa
“I don’t think communism is the end goal. The young, well intentioned, brainwashed Marxists causing chaos and harm are just being used by the Dems for a few months in the lead up to the election.”
I think it’s marxists exploiting one of America’s most vulnerable points: it’s history of slavery and unequal treatment. Marxism is only a ready-made template being used by the deep state though. They want depopulation, not power to the people. Power to their kind of people maybe. That’s why dem leaders are co-operating with this incredible effort to destabilize the USA.
Not all violence results in murder. Are you denying that Antifa has committed violent acts?
HW,
I think there are a lot of very powerful people who are desperately trying to save their own asses. If they think destabilizing the USA will help Biden then they will go for it. A Biden/ Rice victory, for example, would make the threat of their own incarcerations just disappear.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/15/lansing-capitol-protest-michigan-stay-home-order/5136842002/
Firearms and blocked traffic here as well.
Did someone run up on someone else with their weapon? You seriously think the Lansing protestors are da debbil but this ORGY of VIOLENCE that’s been IN OUR FACE for the past TWO MONTHS does not exist. You say I am deluded though. It’s wacky as shit. You people jumped the shark but instead of nailing it you fuckin’ BIT IT. Hard.
Vague guy,
What is your point? Blocking traffic is illegal. In the Lansing protest thread I said the people blocking traffic should be given tickets.
I did not deny Garrett Foster had a right to carry did I?
Show me the video where the Lansing protestors surrounded cars and (inadvertently ?) pointed a gun at the driver of a surrounded car.
You argue like a child.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466719/Moment-man-plows-car-protests-Seattle-jumping-shooting-demonstrator.html
So this is okay as well? I’m just trying to find the parameters of what sort of actions are and are not acceptable, and what sort of actions are just asking for it, even if legal, and whether there are standards for judgment before all witnesses are interviewed and facts collected. I have read somewhere that the reason Garrett Foster pointed his gun was in response to his perceived threat that the driver was going to physically harm his quadriplegic girlfriend who was in a wheelchair that he was pushing.
Vague guy,
Don’t have time to watch more video or analyze any new events right now…..
Intentionally blocking traffic is wrong. Intentionally hitting people with your car is also very wrong. Surrounding a stopped car is wrong and touching the vehicle is wrong. Approaching a car with a weapon (even inadvertently) pointed at the driver is wrong. Shooting someone who is not intending to point a weapon at you is wrong. Unfortunate shit is going to happen when you create chaos/disorder and people are going to feel freaked out.
Stop acting like you are a clueless child, vague guy. Grow the fuck up.
I’d be in fear for my life if my car was set upon like that. I didn’t see any car “plow into protestors”. That’s bull fucking shit according to the video evidence you yourself just put up.
“I have read somewhere that the reason Garrett Foster pointed his gun was in response to his perceived threat that the driver was going to physically harm his quadriplegic girlfriend who was in a wheelchair that he was pushing.”
So if you perceive a threat that you think someone could do to someone it is defensible to point an AK at them and effectively erases their right to defend their self. Even if it is your arbitrary rules you are imposing on other Americans (can’t drive here) that directly creates the possibility of the threat.
One young woman was shot over the weekend by another protestor who shot at a vehicle that did not stop at their roadblock. Good thing for her she didn’t die. You guys are getting wasted in the most permanent way every day now it seems and it’s usually in self defense..
Based on the interview Garret Foster was not an experienced carrier. The fact that he is dead is another piece of evidence that he did not know what sort of responsibilities it entails. His mindset he conveyed in the interview made it obvious that the guy did not know what he is was doing.
So if you perceive a threat that you think someone could do to someone it is defensible to point an AK at them and effectively erases their right to defend their self. Even if it is your arbitrary rules you are imposing on other Americans (can’t drive here) that directly creates the possibility of the threat.
The fact that he is dead is another piece of evidence that he did not know what sort of responsibilities it entails.
Isn’t that the whole point of stand your ground laws? Is it your position that in the end, the person who was righteous is the one that is still alive? That’s what I am getting from having these two separate statements placed next to each other.
Aloha, racist agent provacotors started all of the violence and are violent agents
https://m.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-george-floyd-rioting/571932272/
Umbrella man looks like a Minneapolis cop. It appears his ex said it was him and he was wearing her mask. Eyes look very similar.
https://twitter.com/Luka_Duvnjak/status/1266177650747478016
“these two separate statements placed next to each other.”
Why are you juxtaposing what I said with what he said? Rephrase the question. I don’t think what you said there and don’t understand what you are trying to get at. “Isn’t what the whole point of stand your ground?” You mean perceiving a possible threat being a reason to pull a gun on someone? If you are in fear of your life, sure.
If you are illegally trying to impede someone’s movement with intimidation then you are creating the problem and should fuck off and definitely not point your AK at the person. If you are using a paraplegic as a human roadblock then fuck you.
I really appreciate that you made your position clear on this matter. Is this a theoretical position, or should people who might want to demonstrate in the streets in Ypsilanti take proper precautions in the event that you feel they are impeding your movement? Because this might realistically be a scenario by the end of this calendar year. There WILL be people in the streets no matter what the outcome of the election is. They probably will be in your way if you meet them. What next?
They better leave me the fuck alone. What if someone threw a brick at you? Would you be cool with that? What if it hit you in the head? That’s been happening so it definitely is a very real possibility. There have been lots of own goals by protestors, the girl that got shot by another protestor being the latest example.
The one dude just about blowing his own face off with fireworks was a good one.
I would avoid the situation entirely if I felt unsafe, or turn around or otherwise alter my route. I would not be cool with a brick being thrown at me. I would not continue forward. I may even run away. What about you? Would you stand your ground?
Self burn; these incidents are racking up at a crazy rate. Maybe it could possibly be a sign your energy is…off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7GxVbkp6Pc
“Isn’t that the whole point of stand your ground laws? Is it your position that in the end, the person who was righteous is the one that is still alive? “
First of all you are mixing statements between different people.
No. I am not putting forth a “might is right” philosophy, Vague Guy/ Dim Whit.
If the man who shot Garrett truly did perceive the AK was being intentionally pointed at him, in a threatening way, then it is a PIECE of evidence that Garrett was not experienced enough to carry in a way that is non threatening toward the people around him. The interview with Garrett that night is another PIECE of evidence that he lacked experience for carrying. He admitted he was a new carrier. He was not psychologically prepared for carrying in that situation. Is it really your belief that he was carrying and pushing a wheel chair at the same time? Huh? How would that be safe? It wouldn’t be safe dummy.
I think your arguments are childish, Vague Guy. Sorry.
Open-carrying might make a mob think twice about attacking with weapons. I don’t foresee the level of violence happening here unless something drastic happens to destroy the food supply chain. Always thinking of the possibilities.
What if in running away they tag you as a nazi and chase you? Stomp on your head? Hurt you really bad? Still cool with it?
Anonymous,
Although sometimes walking away is the right and wise thing to do. Not everyone has a flight response when there is a transgression against them—and I don’t think that is a bad thing. Your flight response is initself is not something to be proud of. Similarly, impotence is not a virtue.
I suppose that a sling on a gun might enable one to both “carry” it and do something else with ones hands simultaneously. I don’t know if it’s safe or not as I have not received that type of training specifically. My long gun experience has been strictly with shotguns and hunting for game fowl, so I never had to deal with multitasking while armed. Have you?
I consider the relative risks and benefits to any actions as it relates to long term objectives. In a scenario where I am alone and encounter a large group of unruly people where I perceive that I am in potential physical danger, I see little upside in sticking around, as I have a long term goal of providing income and support to other people who depend on me. I’m sorry that I am not as “virile” as you. Also, there should be no shame for impotence, as it is a medical condition, just like diabetes, cancer, and heart disease. It’s part of the human condition.
You are saying there is a good chance I will run into aggressive protestors so I guess there is just as good a chance you will too. If they decide you are a nazi for some reason like what has happened to other random people already you could be through. If you run from projectiles they could actually mistake you for one.
Ypsi has been pretty chill from what I have seen. Antifa has little to no presence. Haven’t seen much of anything popping in A2 but haven’t been looking too hard either.
I think it will be pretty obvious that I’m not a Nazi by how I look. But thanks for the warning.
Should be obvious a lot of people aren’t nazis but that hasn’t stopped antifa from calling them that and attacking them.
Another 1000 dead from the trumpvirus yesterday. Anything to distract from the daily carnage inflicted upon us by the death cult MAGA
https://twitter.com/Percysperson/status/1288257340194451462?s=20
When did I say there should be shame in impotence? It was not my intent to insult people with erectile dysfunction….Jesus! I am saying there is no virtue where the potentiality for a particular transgression is not existent in the first place. Given that your natural response is for flight you are not virtuous if you always avoid a fight. Where would we be as a society if everyone always refrained from fighting back against the transgressions of others?
“I don’t know if it’s safe or not as I have not received that type of training specifically. My long gun experience has been strictly with shotguns and hunting for game fowl, so I never had to deal with multitasking while armed. Have you?”
No. I do not have experience carrying rifles in public. I am basing my judgment on observations and common sense. It would be highly odd to see someone walking around in a crowd with a rifle without at least one hand on the rifle at all times. In a crowd two hands on the rifle at all times would be normaI I think. I am pretty sure that even if you are walking in the woods alone with a strapped hunting rifle you are supposed to have one hand on the strap at all times. If he was walking with his AK slung aver his shoulder while his hands were occupied with something else then he is a total idiot.
*was
Aloha photos from memorial to Garret Foster the murdered man the death cult fans cheered as needing to be “ ventilated”.
https://www.statesman.com/photogallery/TX/20200727/NEWS/727009999/PH/1?fbclid=IwAR261s2kOVPGC9GA2v4KVaBSdITITZOlpHx4VeYbmgw-b4GCtMcdeRn1vzM
So people know who the death cult cheered being “ventilated”.
https://m.facebook.com/TheOther98/photos/a.115969958413991/4911122888898650/?type=3&source=57
Did people here cheer Garret getting shot?
Certainly there is the impression from some posters that he got his just desserts.
YOU interpreted us as cheering Garrett’s death?
Let me be clear: I don’t think it was good he was shot, it was unfortunate, but not completely surprising. I think it is highly irresponsible for an inexperienced carrier to carry in that situation because it is dangerous. There is evidence he was inexperienced and if you look at the still shots there is evidence that he approached the car in an irresponsible way—which could be interpreted as threatening. Not good. Not smart.
What about you HW? Are you cheering that Garrett was shot? Is there another person you are receiving that impression from Anonymous?
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but inexorably.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-grand-jury-announces-murder-indictment-for-austin-blm-protest-shooting-in-2020/ar-AALIzI8?li=BBnb7Kz
Nearly a year after this blog post, we learn Trump reportedly got into a shouting match with General Miley because Trump wrongly thought he could order the military to “crack skulls” and shoot protesters
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/560535-trump-screamed-at-milley-over-military-crackdown-on-protests-book