MAGA Jonestown

Last week, as the number of COVID-19 deaths started to climb across the United States, Donald Trump, always the salesman, felt the need to share a little good news. And, as he’d already been fact-checked to death over his false claim that a vaccine was “very close,” he decided to instead tell a story about Chloroquine, a derivative of quinine used to treat malaria, and its analog Hydroxychloroquine. These drugs, he told the American people, were “very powerful” potential “game changers” in the fight against COVID-19. Of course, after this said this, the FDA had to issue a statement saying that the drugs in question hadn’t been approved for the treatment of COVID-19. And Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, had to inform the press that, while there does exist some “anecdotal” evidence of efficacy against COVID-19, there hasn’t been “a controlled clinical trial,” and therefore it’s impossible to make any “definitive statement” about how well the drugs may actually work. None of that, of course, stopped Donald Trump from touting the wonder cure. “The nice part is,” he said last week, “it’s been around for a long time, so we know that if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody.” But, of course, that’s exactly what happened.

Here’s one of Donald Trump’s irresponsible tweets about the drug, which he indicated was a cure for COVID-19.

And here’s the news today from Arizona, where a man in his 60s, in hopes of protecting himself against COVID-19, ingested a lethal dose of a parasite treatment for fish containing Chloroquine. According to the man’s widow, she and her husband took the medication because, in her words, “Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure”. She added, “We saw Trump on TV — every channel — and all of his buddies (were saying) that this was safe.”

Perhaps Donald Trump is incapable of learning that his actions have consequences. Or, more likely, he just doesn’t care. I don’t suppose it really matters why he does it. The important thing is that we remove him from office before even more people are forced to pay the price for his irresponsible rhetoric. It seems like a really obvious thing — something that shouldn’t have to be articulated here — but we need a leader that truly comprehends that, when he or she says something as the President of the United States, it carries a certain amount of weight. When an American president singles individuals out as “enemies of the people,” it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that violence follows. And it shouldn’t be a shock to anyone to learn that, when a president refers to a deadly disease as a “Chinese virus” in order to obfuscate his own culpability, Americans of Chinese descent find themselves subjected to racist attacks. And, when the president announces from the White House that wonder drugs exist for the treatment of a deadly disease, of course people are going to find said drugs and take them. He has had ample opportunity to learn from is mistakes, and rise to the challenge of leading this nation, but yet he persists. And the absolutely unnecessary damage continues. One would hope that, eventually, everyone would come to the realization that Donald Trump needs to be held to account.

update: The CDC had to issue a warning in response to the President’s irresponsible comments about Chloroquine being a cure for COVID-19.

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117 Comments

  1. iRobert
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 4:23 am | Permalink

    As much as we’d like to argue with you, Mark, we Trump supporters are not permitted to discuss these details. Our dear leader, our “chosen one,” is not to be spoken about in any manner other than praise and support.

    On another note, the lieutenant Governor of Texas says the victims of COVID-19 are willing to give their lives in order to save the economy. I hope our dear leader picks up on that line for his inspiring and informative daily briefs.

  2. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    Well, that’s metaphorically resonant.
    Don’t worry; a conspiracy theory will emerge any minute blaming the deep state.

  3. EOS
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    So now Trump is responsible for a couple who ingested a chemical that was designed to rid fish of parasites? You are really scraping the barrel now.

  4. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    No Hannity is. Trump is just another idiot who repeats what Hannity says.

    https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1242266743160090624?s=20

  5. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    If the widow survives she should sue the President, Fox News and Hannity.

    She’d have a good case.

    PS EOS– It’s people like you who give the president that kind of legitimacy and authority.

  6. dirtgrain
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    I just imagined Ted Nugent grabbing his crotch at the Libs as he takes a big swig of this concoction.

  7. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Really scraping bottom of the bowl here, Barky; absurd.

  8. Frosted Flakes
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Know this EOS: Your vote for Trump was also an obvious endorsement of koi pond chemicals. You are complicit! Blood is on your hands.

  9. Sad
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    The cure is worse than the disease!

  10. Demetrius
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    The real tragedy of this nonsense is that Trump’s promotion of this untested, unproven “cure” is causing a spike in sales (and hording) of these drugs that is now leaving patients who actually depend on them high and dry:

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927307

  11. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Trump causes all the bad things in this world.

  12. Demetrius
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    From a communications perspective, any POTUS has nearly unparalleled power. With just a few remarks, they can move financial markets, spark (or soothe) foreign conflicts, shape public opinion, and spread knowledge – or misinformation.

    As they say, with great power comes great responsibility.

    What the President does, and says, matters.

  13. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    I agree with that. I think it is ridiculous to hold up a pair of Darwin awardees to imply the President has been irresponsible by talking about chloroquine or to somehow make him responsible for hoarders.

  14. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Why are you chronically behind on current events all the time and I am right on top of it?

    Stephanie Grisham
    @PressSec
    President @realDonaldTrump just signed an EO to prevent hoarding & price gouging of supplies needed in our war against the #Coronavirus. This sends a strong message – we will not let those hoarding vital supplies & price gougers to harm the health of America in this hour of need.

    4:17 PM · Mar 23, 2020

  15. iRobert
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    HW is right about people who listen to Trump being Darwin Awardees.

  16. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    You don’t think hydroxy-chloroquine works against it?

  17. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    You know what works great against Covid-19, HW?
    Adrenochrome.

    Hillary Clinton told me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6kFCNsnQpQ

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    I’m not sure someone didn’t spike the synthetic ‘drenchrome’ coming out of Wuhan with a virus.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pcsubstance/?term=%223B+Scientific+(Wuhan)+Corp%22%5BSourceName%5D+AND+%22Adrenochrome%22

    It’s so interesting to me that the chemical diagram of adrenochrome resembles a white rabbit. In this one it even could be seen as extending a red pill. “Follow the white rabbit.”

  19. Lynne
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    It is fairly obvious to me that Trump has been hurting people with his lies. It is interesting as someone interested in human behavior to watch how so many Trump supporters go through some serious mental gymnastics to justify their support now though. You can see it here for sure! I just hope that there are enough voters who will see through this and also realize that it is worth going to the polls to remove him from office.

    #TrumpliesAmericansdie

  20. iRobert
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    I would ask FF, EOS and HW if they’d take Trump in his word if their life depended on it, but that’s a “nasty” question and only a Trump hater would ask such a question. That’s the only possible motivation. Right? What other explanation could there be?

  21. Lynne
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    I love HRC. She is right often and is totally right now when she says, “Please do not take medical advice from a man who looked directly at a solar eclipse.”

    https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913

  22. iRobert
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    My message is…if you are a Trump supporter, please do take his medical advice, and all his advice on other topics.

    If you’re not a Trump supporter, do not take his advice.

    Let’s just see how that plays out. I suspect it would MAGA!

  23. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    You want Biden to be prez and he thinks it’s waycist to stop traffic from places with disease breakouts. You think Hillary would have done the common sense thing and shut off travel from China asap? Think that wide open Southern border would help somehow?

    Trump’s policies are looking extraordinarily prescient today. It’s spreading but has not exploded as it could have without the President’s travel restrictions. Now the dems are blocking the aid bill with moronic demands that have nothing to do with the coronavirus. I don’t think that looks too hot to the public, do you?

  24. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Now he’s going ti kill all the devout Christians by opening up everything by EO on Easter Sunday…
    He really knows how to kill his chances for re-election… literally.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1242537995103846400?s=20

  25. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Yes, HW, Trump is doing a great job and you should listen to everything he says. He’s a very stable genius like yourself.

    Do you go to church by any chance? DJT wants you to go to church on Easter Sunday. “Easter is a very important holiday for me.”

    That may be an appeal to the devout. It may be a Q clue about when it’s all gonna come down, man. Or it could just be that Easter is the beginning of golf club season up north

    Either way, you better listen HW.

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    What is adrenochrome such as what is in the link I posted used for? I have heard of it sold as a supplement but I am ignorant about medical or research uses for it. Since you know enough about it to ridicule people who talk about it you should be able to answer.

  27. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    It’s an oxygenated form of epinephrine (think Epi pen) which is a commonly used drug to stall allergic reactions, HW.
    Adrenochrome is not approved for medical use by the FDA. I have no idea why it’s being made as a supplement. People are weird.
    But I do know it’s not being made with the blood of frightened children because that’s not necessary.
    I also know that if you want to infect the US population with Covid-19 you just have to stick someone on the plane who is infected, which is a lot easier than adding it to a drug no one uses.

    Do you ever actually look at the things you say? Or do you just repeat bullshit endlessly.

  28. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Epinephrine turns to adrenochrome when exposed to the air. You don;t even need a lab to produce it. Just crack an epi pen. The pink stuff is adrenochrome, the brown Melatonin.

    Have fun!

    https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2014/019430s059lbl.pdf

  29. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Ah ! Adrenochrome is NOT commonly sold as a supplement. It’s most often used in the manufacture of carbazochrome, which is a hemostatic drug.

  30. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    “I do know it’s not being made with the blood of frightened children because that’s not necessary.”

    How do you know synthetic has the same effect/is good enough for certain users? Synthetic THC isn’t as good as natural for example. The reality is you don’t know shit. I don’t have proof that world leaders indulge in such things so I’m not saying “I know this or that…” You are saying you know it for a fact based on the most dubious reasoning.

  31. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Must be some good stuff. $55 for 25mg. 1/4 g for $346. You could have mock pizzagate parties and charge $100 for a 25mg hit. Tha-a-at would be co-o-ol.

    https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search?term=54-06-8&interface=CAS%20No.&N=0&mode=partialmaxfocus=product&lang=en&region=US&focus=product&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6afj94m06AIVkZ-fCh0LwwrSEAMYASAAEgKZ3vD_BwE

  32. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Damn! $850/g over at https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/3-hydroxy-1-methyl-5-6-indolinedione-98-acros-organics-2/AC426210010

    You could make good money and have fun with your buddies pretending to be Clinton or Podesta or Alefantis.

  33. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    HW— a fool is born every minute. You should definitely order that stuff and see how high it gets you. I’m sure it’s way more potent than that plain old epinephrine aka synthetic adrenaline. And then I have some oregano to sell you. And a bridge in Manhattan.

  34. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Just because I pay attention to all different sources of information doesn’t mean I’m sold. You should buy some in order to test your claims about it.

  35. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Were the stories about Countess Bathory true or false, Jean? High up individual in Hungarian society of the time? Related to Vlad Drakul? It’s so long ago it’s a liability to even bring it up. However I think the parallel between Bathory and modern day claims about world leaders is worth noting. It is said she would torture her victims to get the most rejuvenating blood.

    What makes you think you know anything for sure? You laugh at the idea of elite witch covens but your idols pal around with the witchiest characters around like Maria Abromovic.

  36. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Marina Abromovic that is, the occultist and artist. Indeed, occult themes permeate her work. I wonder if she still looks extraordinarily young for her age today.

  37. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Marina Abramovic: not a fan, personally. I have followed her work because one who follows art must. I find her work narcissistic and overly self-conscious. Not my thing but she’s not an occultist; she’s a performance artist. https://news.artnet.com/art-world/right-wing-mistakes-marina-abramovic-dinner-party-for-satanic-ritual-736247

    I know many witches and satanists. They don’t have the money for fancy drugs. Their relationship to the occult is way more complicated and nuanced than you probably imagine. They exist mostly as a counter to Christian traditions and the bigotry and prudery contained therein. I also knew a PA Dutch healer/witch growing up and have studied those traditions a bit. She was a Christian. Just a charismatic one.

    And yes, Abramovic has aged. She has all the means of faking it and looking good in pictures available at her disposal that rich women in this culture have. A blood facial may be part of that but not drinking children’s blood.

    What a silly fool you are, HW. A small pathetic and foolish man.

  38. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    Try studying her work instead of relying on stupid articles. It is full of occult symbolism. You know very little, Jean.

  39. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    “I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” she said. “Anybody who wants can read my memoirs and find out that [my work] is far away from Satanism.”

    Thank you though for providing another opportunity to pitch my friend Penny’s film “Hail Satan” because it’s awesome and actually about satanists. You should check it out. Penny spent a year with them. But she didn’t drink any children’s blood in any form, because she’s vegan. You should start hanging out with them too HW, Maybe you’d learn a thing or two not from the internet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RtJp-rhHk

  40. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    In her Spirit Cooking performance she wrote in blood: “Mix fresh breast milk with fresh sperm milk drink on earthquake nights” and “With a sharp knife, cut deeply into the middle finger of your left hand. Eat the pain”

    Now what the fuck does that have to do with having dinner? She invited the Podesta’s to a Spirit Cooking dinner.

  41. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    A lot of self-styled satanists are just nerds but I do think there are (elite) sadistic occult criminals out there that those people would be shocked to learn of. I think you would be shocked to learn what I know on a lot of different levels.

  42. Bob
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    There is little evidence to support the notion that HRC would have behaved much better than Trump in this crisis. She would have been just as concerned about bailing out the banks and biggest corporations.

  43. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Trump is trying to get money into the hands of working Americans. The more you make the less you get. Dems are blocking it with abortion funding added to it and things like that. Your shit doesn’t add up, internet pussy.

  44. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Bob— you might be a bigger idiot than our Trumpers.

    Literally anyone would have handled this better. HRC is not an idiot. Her friend Pelosi is coming through. She played her cards brilliantly while you all jeered from the peanut gallery. I don’t know what the final bill will be but it’s going to be a duck of a lot better than it was. And yes there will still be corporate bail outs because this is a democracy and some people keep voting for the GOP. And some others keep attacking the Dem party like it’s sport and saying stupid shit like there’s no difference between the parties. And justifying it by saying they speak for ‘the people’— the people who voted Biden.

    Hard to know which group is more ridiculous really.

    Ps corporate bailouts are a form of socialist protectionism. They sure aren’t free market capitalism.

  45. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    HW— it was a performance piece not a dinner party. If you want to find out what it’s about why don’t you read the authors abundant text about her own work as she suggests? I’m sure not going to.

    Ps lots of people enjoy a little sadism and masochism without being satanists. And others enjoy exploring the profound metaphoric possibilities in those pursuits and drives. They are also not necessarily satanists.

    Dinner parties don’t usually happen in front of an audience.

  46. Jean Henry
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    ‘I think you would be shocked to learn what I know on a lot of different levels.‘ —- bwahahaha

  47. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    “HW— it was a performance piece not a dinner party.”

    You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. I’m talking about exactly what I said. It was in Podesta’s emails as released by Wikileaks: an invitation to a Spirit Cooking dinner. It’s not the gala I’m talking about. You said you have ADHD, right? So all this shit you do makes sense in light of that. Think reeeally fucking hard and try to figure it all out.

  48. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    To say it more precisely I’m not talking about the gala, dumbass. That should go without saying. These things have been discussed here and everywhere else a lot.

  49. Sad
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    TrY to fIgUre iT oUt

    LIKe hW

    maNy LEveLs

  50. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    It’s called expanding your mind beyond the dysfunctional one dimensional ego/fear based thinking exhibited by someone like Jean; habitually run your mouth, struggle to justify your comments and attack whoever puts you in danger of being exposed.

  51. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 24, 2020 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Considering the mind-boggling price of adrenochrome as we have seen ($55 for 25mg) could the price inflation of epi-pens be connected to people obtaining them with the intention of oxidizing the epinephrine? Meaning the manufacturer cottoned on to people being willing to pay big bucks for expired/oxidized epi-pens. “Think logically.”

  52. Sad
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    ThInk tHinK THInK

    AboUt wHat You’R e tRyinG to Do tO mE

  53. iRobert
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Have any of the Trump supporters here realized why it’s dangerous to have a mentally and emotionally retarded person occupying the office of the President?

    That’s okay. You will soon enough.

  54. Hyperian Warlock
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    The mentally ill and emotionally stunted deserve representation too. Donald Trump is the perfect leader for us, so suck it loser.

  55. Jean Henry
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    HW– I read about the Podesta emails. It’s in the article I posted. It’s ridiculous. Rich, powerful people and the art market are codependent. They don’t need an illicit drug to bind them to one another. They have money to bind them. (The art market is a really great place to stash and grow wealth outside fo the eye of the IRS.) Abramovic is a verifiable art star and was before that dinner. The very wealthy go to art openings, dullard.

    You’d have to be really far removed from any understanding that world to make any note at all of an invitation to Podesta to go to an art event. Much less a conspiracy theory.

    Ridiculous. I’m embarrassed for you, HW, because I know you are not capable of seeing yourself in any realistic manner.

  56. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    “Jean Henry
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 8:26 am | Permalink
    HW– I read about the Podesta emails. It’s in the article I posted. It’s ridiculous. Rich, powerful people and the art market are codependent. They don’t need an illicit drug to bind them to one another. They have money to bind them. (The art market is a really great place to stash and grow wealth outside fo the eye of the IRS.) Abramovic is a verifiable art star and was before that dinner. The very wealthy go to art openings, dullard.
    You’d have to be really far removed from any understanding that world to make any note at all of an invitation to Podesta to go to an art event. Much less a conspiracy theory.
    Ridiculous. I’m embarrassed for you, HW, because I know you are not capable of seeing yourself in any realistic manner.”

    What a pile of garbage. What the hell are you trying to say? Abromovic has extreme occult symbolism in her art and a lot of your pols like to hang out with her.

  57. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    ” (The art market is a really great place to stash and grow wealth outside fo the eye of the IRS.)”

    Ironic that you would try to “educate” me on this point. I’ve known for a long time now that art is bought and sold to launder money in such circles.

  58. Jimbo Jones
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    All you US college “highly educated” simpletons have to be the dumbest generation ever to exist…
    If someone is stupid enough to ingest anything above a safe recommended level, irrespective of the concoction…. YOU WILL DIE.
    to much coffee KILLS
    to much cough medicine KILLS
    to much water KILLS
    to much salt KILLS
    to much chocolate KILLS
    to much alcohol KILLS
    to much heroin KILLS
    to many cigarettes KILLS
    to many farting cows KILLS

    try and learn the thing that you don’t learn in college, and DONT DRINK FISH POND CHEMICALS

    One last thing, all your favorite celebrities are PEDOPHILES

  59. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    “They don’t need an illicit drug to bind them to one another. They have money to bind them.”

    That’s an example of that extreme one dimensional thinking. If you can’t see why when it is pointed out then I don’t think you will ever break through. You will just break.

    Hey Jean, when you swore to lick my boots you said you would literally get down and lick my boots. By literally you mean do it in physical reality, right? Don’t cheat me. Don’t try to squirm out of it by reading a declaration aloud and calling it done or some shit.

  60. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    If you read about it you would know that invitation was to a Spirit Cooking dinner at Marina’s. That’s what she said. Not some “art event” you are insanely howling at me about. I’ve hardly ever heard someone scream so loud at me but be so wrong about what they are screaming about.

  61. Jean Henry
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Yes for major patrons, which include Podesta’s brother. She taught them to make soup. (Which in her case is still a performance esp at 10 grand a pop) There was a Tibetan golden ball thingy but no satanic-looking rituals like in her performance art pieces which you and the right wing press conflated to the dinner.

    Here’s a classic example where your sources are all mixed up about basic facts of the event and then you use that untrue basis to try to disprove my point.

    You’ve got this all wrong HW.

    The simple and obvious answer is usually the right one. She gets a lot of money from patrons who stand to make a lot of money on the material art they buy from her and also get to hang out with other powerful and influential people. They had $10,000 soup. They will all profit from it.

    That’s how it works in Those rarified circles— which is both weird enough and reason enough ($$$)for the invite.

  62. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    “which you and the right wing press conflated to the dinner.”

    Show me where I did that or shut your ass up. All I said is she is an occult artist and your pols like to hang out with her as evidenced by the invitation.

    The idea of ten thousand dollar soup tells me something more is going on.

  63. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    “Here’s a classic example where your sources are all mixed up about basic facts of the event and then you use that untrue basis to try to disprove my point.”

    Garbage. What do you think I mixed up exactly? You are mixed up as shit.

  64. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    By the way have you ever looked at Tony Podesta’s art collection or are you ignorant?

  65. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    re: You are mixed up as shit.

    You thought I was talking about the gala! So how are you not 180 degrees from reality when you say I am mixed up? It’s worrying there are such belligerent fools not too far from me.

  66. Lynne
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Nice to see that HW is not only delusional about winning arguments or his own intelligence but also has wider delusions about the art world.

  67. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Hahaha, Lynne! Never says anything factually true; nothing that can be verified.

  68. Jean Henry
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    HW remember the satanic panic when the McMartin’s were falsely accused of pedophilia and put on trial and when listening to heavy metal meant your were a worshiper of Satan???

    You listen to heavy metal right?

  69. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    They said the same thing about D&D. It had occult themes and their child was obsessed with it so it was responsible for their suicide. I don’t know if that was just how they saw it or if they needed a scapegoat. Gary Gygax defended his game and millions of players with reason on tv.

    With heavy metal there is plenty of fodder for paranoia. It’s easy to see why fundamentalists would worry about upside down crosses and debauchery. Some of those people should have been made to read Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath’s lyrics for example though. They are…Christian!

  70. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    You are going to find out there is an extremely sick stream of activity going on under your nose. You will say it is lies but the evidence will be there. Many will accept it and be beyond outraged. That’s what I think will happen.

  71. Jean Henry
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    So maybe if you are less familiar with something, don’t be so quick to jump to assumptions of satanism??? because someone on the internet had a theory…

  72. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Why do you think I am less familiar with the occult in general and satanism in particular than someone as superficial as you? I have studied these topics for decades, Jean. You have watched a documentary about “satanic” nerds.

  73. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    You are the one who brought up satanism. I said Abromovic is witchy. If you don’t see the occult imagery in her work then it’s another opinion on which we disagree. I think to people who are familiar with the occult it is self-evident.

    The Spirit Cooking installation is rather like a black magic spell is it not? The ritualistic instructions involving cutting oneself and drinking a mixture of bodily fluids written in pig’s blood on the wall with a baby statue covered in blood in the corner… I mean is it much of a stretch to call it “witchy”? Come on. I’ll take my odds on her being involved in some ill shit though. Yep.

  74. Meta
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Right Wing Watch; “Liz Crokin Claims Celebrities Are Getting Coronavirus From Tainted ‘Adrenochrome Supply'”

    Right-wing “journalist” and Trump–worshiping conspiracy theorist Liz Crokin posted a video on YouTube last week in which she declared that the current COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak is really just a cover for the Trump administration to carry out the mass arrests long promised by QAnon, the right-wing conspiracy theory that posits that President Donald Trump has been working diligently to arrest countless prominent political, media, and business leaders for allegedly being part of a global satanic pedophile ring.

    Crokin doubled down on this predication in a new video that she posted last night in which she and also speculated that celebrities like Tom Hanks and Idris Elba have contracted the virus by drinking adrenochrome that had been intentionally laced with the virus by “the white hats”—a computer security term used to refer to hackers who use their skills for good.

    “I also believe that this virus was created by the cabal, specifically Bill Gates,” Crokin said. “I also believe that the good guys, the white hats, knew that they were going to release this virus, and they intercepted their plans to use this virus as a false flag. They are now using their plans with the virus against them by using the virus as an excuse to lock down the country and many other countries, so the military can go in and safely conduct these raids and military operations to sweep up these criminals.”

    “There’s a lot of anons (i.e., believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory) that believe the white hats tainted the elite’s adrenochrome supply with the coronavirus, and that’s why so many members of the elite are getting the coronavirus,” she added. “Adrenochrome is a drug that the elites love. It comes from children. The drug is extracted from the pituitary gland of tortured children. It’s sold on the black market. It’s the drug of the elites. It is their favorite drug. It is beyond evil. It is demonic. It is so sick. So there is a theory that the white hats tainted the adrenochrome supply with the coronavirus.”

    Read more:
    https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/liz-crokin-claims-celebrities-are-getting-coronavirus-from-tainted-adrenochrome-supply/

  75. Anonymous
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    This would totally explain why Rand Paul and someone in Pence’s office have it! Thanks, Meta.

  76. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Trust no one.

  77. Eel
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Rand Paul gets high eating baby’s faces in secret caverns beneath ping pong shops. Pass it on.

  78. Jean Henry
    Posted March 25, 2020 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Eel gets the mic drop.

  79. Posted March 29, 2020 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    The CDC had to issue a warning in response to the President’s irresponsible comments about Chloroquine being a cure for COVID-19 telling people not to self-medicate.

    Read the whole thread.

  80. iRobert
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    We should draft EOS into the duty of issuing corrections and warnings with regard to the President’s comments.

  81. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Gretch. Good looking out.

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/03/26/opinion-michigans-doctors-fight-coronavirus-and-governors-office/2922272001/

    Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs literally threatened all doctors and pharmacists in the state who prescribe or dispense hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19.

    The agency’s March 24 letter warns physicians and pharmacists of professional consequences for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine (and chloroquine). Beyond the rational recommendation against hoarding as production of this medication needs to be ramped up, the letter deviates into open threats of “administrative action” against the licenses of doctors that prescribe hydroxychloroquine.

  82. iRobert
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    I’m sure Governor Whitmer will change that position once production provides the necessary volume of hydroxychloroquine. I’d expect that to be soon.

  83. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    What if they can get a prescription filled no problem? Doctors are effectively disallowed from using it in Michigan. This says some pharmacies are restricting it to a one month supply but it is not universal. If it does in fact rid people of coronavirus as the preliminary trial suggests then wouldn’t it be evil to punish doctors for prescribing it?

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927668#vp_2

  84. Black Sunday
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    I would encourage you to eat it to your heart’s content, HW.

    There’s a fish store on Washtenaw.

  85. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Why don’t you eat some Wuhan adrenochrome and spazz out some more?

  86. Frosted Flakes
    Posted March 29, 2020 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    You might be sick, BS. I don’t know.

    https://youtu.be/VWJfmCFQjAk

  87. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted March 31, 2020 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/

  88. Frosted Flakes
    Posted March 31, 2020 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Don’t worry HW, ColuMbo is on top of the story.

    His edited tag list will very soon read : “Cesar Sayoc, kool-aid, irresponsible rhetoric, Jonestown, MAGA, racism, Pro-science Democratic Party donors.”

  89. Sad
    Posted March 31, 2020 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    A Table is a table-

    And it came to the point that the man had to laugh when he heard people talking.

    He had to laugh when he heard the way someone said:

    ‘Are you going to the soccer game tomorrow, too?’ Or when someone said: ‘It’s been raining for two months now.’ Or when someone said: ‘I have an uncle in America.’

    He had to laugh, because he did not understand all that.

    But this is not a funny story.

    It began sadly and it ends sadly.

    The old man in the grey coat could no longer understand people, that wasn’t so bad.

    Much worse was that they could no longer understand him.

    And therefore he said nothing more.

    He was silent,

    spoke only to himself,

    did not even greet them.

    *

  90. Frosted Flakes
    Posted March 31, 2020 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    https://vimeo.com/11331609

    Thanks for sharing that Sad.

  91. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 1, 2020 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2020/03/31/gov-whitmer-reverses-course-on-coronavirus-drugs-is-now-asking-feds-for-hydroxychloroquine-and-chloroquine

    I think the feds should give it to her but only after she discloses the medically legitimate plans she has for its use.

  92. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    So, Whitmer did reverse her decision since the drug was as approved?

  93. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    As predicted, the Governor changed her position once the drug was approved for COVID-19 treatment.

  94. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    I wonder if Wanda deliberately poisoned Gary. Did she ingest the same about as she gave him, or did she ingest a smaller amount? If she gave herself a much smaller amount, I’d think that would be evidence of premeditated murder.

  95. Jean Henry
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    You’re such an ass, iRobert.
    Speculating about murder based on a set of bad assumptions.

    What kind of world view makes you think that’s ok?

  96. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    I’m bored.

    Anybody have some funny bio-terrorist jokes they want to tell?

  97. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Nobody give a shit about your opinions, Jean. We’ve all seen what you can do.

  98. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    The police in Arizona are certainly looking at Wanda’s poisoning of her husband. Considering her political donations, it is a bit odd that her story is that she poisoned her husband and herself supposedly because of something Trump said. It is perfectly plausible that she had contemplated poisoning of her husband and decided that Trump’s comments would provide her the cover story. I assume you’d understand that line of thinking, Jean.

  99. iRobert
    Posted April 2, 2020 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Naturally when a person poisons their spouse, and survives the supposed poisoning of themself, an investigator takes a closer look. The odd contradiction between being a prolific donor to the Democratic Party and then claiming to have poisoned her husband because of something Trump said would definitely raise suspicion.

  100. Posted April 13, 2020 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

  101. Posted April 22, 2020 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    I’ve got some bad news, folks.

  102. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted April 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    187

  103. Frosted Flakes
    Posted April 29, 2020 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    “You’re such an ass, iRobert.
    Speculating about murder based on a set of bad assumptions.
    What kind of world view makes you think that’s ok?”

    The ColuMbo community is on quite a streak. What are the odds of a group of people being this wrong so often about everything? It’s like witnessing a miracle.

  104. Anonymous
    Posted May 16, 2020 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Who could have guessed?

    From the Washington Post:

    Hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug President Trump encouraged as a treatment for covid-19 patients, is not only ineffective but significantly increases the risk of death for some, new evidence suggests.

    “Alarmed by a growing cache of data linking the anti-malaria drug to serious cardiac problems, some drug safety experts are now calling for even more forceful action by the government to discourage its use,” The Post reported. Read about how some of those experts are calling for the Food and Drug Administration to revoke the emergency authorization it granted for use of the drug during Trump’s sales pitches.

    But hydroxychloroquine has already become a cure-all in the minds of some Americans who hoarded it. This week an anti-quarantine protester in Long Island pursued a local news reporter trying to keep his distance. “I’ve got hydroxychloroquine, I’m fine!” the man said.

    Trump has stopped talking about hydroxychloroquine and moved on to promoting a White House effort to invent, test and manufacture coronavirus vaccines for hundreds of millions of people by January. The president unveiled his “Operation Warp Speed” program on Friday, but scientists are skeptical it can deliver so quickly, when vaccines typically take years to make. “The leading candidates in the U.S. effort so far are an experiment in every sense of the word, drawing on exciting new technologies that have never before been used in an approved vaccine,” The Post reported.

  105. EOS
    Posted May 17, 2020 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Hydroxychloroquine is a FDA approved pharmaceutical. It has been used safely for over 50 years. How is it that it suddenly causes heart problems? And if so, why hasn’t the FDA removed it from the market? How is it that something that damages the heart is being legally prescribed for millions of Americans?

    Once any pharmaceutical is approved, doctors can use it for any reason they want. It is called off label use. They don’t need special permission from the FDA or any president or governor.

  106. Jean Henry
    Posted May 17, 2020 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    “Once any pharmaceutical is approved, doctors can use it for any reason they want.”
    Wrong.

    They are liable for negligence.

    Ps the FDA approves all sorts of medicines that if improperly used will create all sorts of side effects.

    FDA approval does not mean safe to use by anyone under any circumstances.

    You are far too smart About these things to pretend otherwise.
    Why are you making an obviously fatuous argument?

    If I were FF, I’d call you a liar.

  107. EOS
    Posted May 17, 2020 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-label_use

    Don’t let the chirping mislead anyone.

  108. Jean Henry
    Posted May 17, 2020 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    What part of that Wikipedia entry do you think is contrary to what I said, EOS?

    “Off-label use is generally legal **unless it violates ethical guidelines or safety regulations.**”
    “However, off-label use can entail health risks and differences in legal liability. “

  109. Posted May 19, 2020 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Trump Says He Is Taking Drug That Is Deemed a Risk

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-updates.html

    (From The Nee York Times)

  110. iRobert
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 6:19 am | Permalink

    Why are you trying to convince EOS not to take Hydroxychloroquine?

  111. wobblie
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Aloha, if you are not in the Leaders circle of friends count on his virus policies to screw you some how.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/19/national-guard-coronavirus-267514

  112. iRobert
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    Can we expect you to start taking Hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure, EOS?

  113. iRobert
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    I for one was very happy to hear Trump say he’s taking Hydroxychloroquine. Hopefully this one of those occasions when he’s telling the truth.

    Seems like sort of a soft Jonestown moment. I’d like it to see it get more definitive. The sooner, the better.

  114. EOS
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    Hydroxychloroquine has been prescribed safely since 1944 for the treatment of malaria. It is also used to treat lupus and arthritis. It is known to cause retinopathy in some people after 5 years of chronic use. It has undergone years of studies in various populations to prove it is safe and effective to use for certain conditions.

    If I get the virus, I’m not likely to survive. My goal is to avoid the virus, not to try to take drugs to beat it.

  115. iRobert
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    But you wouldn’t take Hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure, as Trump is?

  116. EOS
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    I won’t take hydroxychoroquine nor will I go to a hospital. I will die at home at the time of the Lord’s choosing.

    The drug works for some, if it is taken early enough. It is being used in a number of countries.

  117. iRobert
    Posted May 19, 2020 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    EOS: “I won’t take hydroxychoroquine nor will I go to a hospital. I will die at home at the time of the Lord’s choosing.”

    I tend to share your attitude about these things.

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