Hugh Hewitt to vote for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary

If Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic primary, I’ll contribute to his campaign, knock on doors for him, and do whatever I can to help him win the presidential election. And I will do so enthusiastically. With that said, it does give me pause when I see a Trump supporter like Republican radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt saying that he intends to vote for Sanders in Virginia’s Democratic primary. I know it shouldn’t bother me, especially given that Sanders is coming out on top in almost every head-to-head poll pitting him against Trump, but the fact that I know Donald Trump, and his sycophants like Hewitt, would like nothing more than to have us run an older, Jewish, Democratic Socialist in the general election, makes me incredibly nervous. But, then again, everything makes me incredibly nervous. No matter who Trump runs against, it’s going to a dystopian nightmare that puts all of us Americans an one another’s throats. But, when I play all of the scenarios out in my head, I always find this one to be the most terrifying. Maybe it’s because I think that I can see this future the most clearly.

I can see the potential of Donald Trump turning a campaign against Sanders into something like a Nazi-themed installment of Wrestlemania, with him, the virile, deeply tanned, Aryan billionaire, with his golden locks majestically blowing in the wind, going up against the boogeyman of Socialism as embodied by Bernie. Maybe I’ve just spent too much time a the Holocaust Museum, looking at early Nazi propaganda posters, but I can see it all coming back… the demonization of the international Jewish communist to advance the cause of corporate fascism. This isn’t to say that I think that we should vote against Sanders in the primary, and choose another candidate. I just can’t help but think that I know exactly how this will go down, and how the right will depict Bernie, supported by ‘hoards of non-Aryan immigrants,’ and the ‘easily-manipulated intellectuals who can’t see their evil, anti-American plan for what it really is.’ But, like I said, it’s going to be bad no matter who we put forward. Hopefully, though, this just makes us stronger in our resolve. And hopefully, in the end, the American people do the right thing, even if our leaders in D.C. refuse to.

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73 Comments

  1. John Brown
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    Either they want to run against Bernie, or that’s what they want to make people think so we don’t vote for him. Why does everything with these modern “conservatives” have to be a fucking mind game? What a bunch of psychos.

  2. Anonymous
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Let’s look at our list. If you want a Democratic candidate that is running that is not a Trumpish boogeyman (old, minority, woman, gay, etc.) then I guess all we got is Bennet , Steyer, or Delaney. Go team! How exciting! GOTV!

  3. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    It’s called communism. Bernie loved the Soviet Union extremely much. Good thing he got a chance to make it over there before it folded.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/17/bernie-sanders-mystery-soviet-video-revealed-1330347

  4. iRobert
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Petty bickering among Democrats is going to dampen turnout of their support in the general.

  5. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    We all know about Bernie’s campaign staffer talking reckless about violence against Americans on tape right?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsUAvh_PCWA

  6. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    “If Trump gets elected fucking cities burn.”

  7. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    But poootin!

  8. Eel
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Today in American history…..

    HW: “If Trump gets elected fucking cities burn.”

    RICHMOND: https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1219243461695737857?s=20

  9. Fred Guttenberg by proxy
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    I am confused by @BernieSanders campaign pulling prior videos of others while wanting a pass on actual votes that he took. Bernie supported and voted for PLCCA, a law that has lead to more dead Americans such as my daughter. Now he wants to say he changed. I CALL BS ON THAT.

  10. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    What do you think your point is there, Eel? It’s not my quote for one thing. I see protestors at the big setup in Virginia. No doubt some probably phony “nutjob” will cause a big hassle and you can be like “SEE? THIS is why we need to use violence to control the populace just like Bernie’s staffer Kyle Jurek said!”

  11. Anonymous
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Speaking of Sanders, what did you think of the NYT endorsement of Warren and Klobuchar?

    If you didn’t see it yet, here’s what Susan Hennessey had to say: “Since I’m late to this and all the good jokes have been made, I’ll just note that the NYT editorial board saying that Warren is better than Sanders and Klobuchar is better than Biden actually seems like a more influential and interesting position than deciding between the two.”

  12. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    That’s some pretty extreme stuff said by Bernie’s guy. How do you think that will sound to voters on the commercials they will hear over and over?

  13. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Youtube currently blocking live protest streams.

  14. Jean Henry
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    I was assured by a Bernie Bro yesterday that Bernie will win and he would have won in the 2016 race if the DNC hadn’t stopped him. I was also told that a vote for Warren, like a vote for HRC was a vote for the Patriarchy, while a vote for Bernie is a vote against it.
    He knows this because he studied feminist theory for 7 years.
    Oh, also White Feminists are bullies. And I must be a sad and lonely person.
    The standard stuff we get here from Bernie Bros and Trumpers.
    I think they belong together, really.

    And yes I would vote for Bernie in the general. I wouldn’t canvas for him because I’d be bad at it because I think he’ll be a terrible president, even if he makes it in so how could I canvas for him. I will work on GOTV efforts and am working on them as we speak. Anyone have a passenger van or two or three they want to donate?

  15. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    The Bernie Bro is correct. No one has been more of a bully than you, Jean. Some of the other bigots here are your equal though. “Sad and lonely” doesn’t get to how twisted you are. That was a gentle critique.

  16. Jean Henry
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    I’m really ok with you thinking I’m a bully, HW. Same with all Bro’s. More than ok, really.

  17. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    It’s ironic you use the term ‘Bro’ as if males aren’t quite…equal.

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    How do female Bernie supporters feel about the Bernie Bro pejorative I wonder.

  19. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Probably correctly think it is dumb as shit.

  20. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Yeah. There is a certain type of weak man who just automatically thinks that women are bullies whenever they even so much as share an opinion. I had to listen to one go on about Amanda Marcotte yesterday. Ugh

    I will admit to getting worried. The mood in some of my FB groups, among people who are normally passionate about voting, is that they will not be able to vote for Sanders if he wins. I think they will come around though but they will not volunteer to help get him elected and instead will most likely focus their efforts on downticket campaigns. Ugh. This gets so messy. I will certainly vote for him and will make phone calls at least. The only good thing is that the Bernie people’s new habit of posting snake pictures whenever they talk about Warren is this twitter account, which is a work of art IMHO

    https://twitter.com/SnakesforWarren

  21. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    I don’t call horrible slander sharing an opinion. I call it a lie. Classifying tens of millions of Trump supporters as inherently racist and sexist I call bigoted.

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    It’s just like when you tried to vilify me for not understanding that the Black Hebrew Israelites were merely POC finding their voice. That is insane. Do you now think they crossed the line into bad behavior with those murders of Jews? Or do you side with the POC because nothing could be worse than what they go through therefore any form of “expression” is justified? That was your logic when you said you would support a POC in a beating of a white person regardless of racial motivation.

  23. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    HW, Every single Trump supporter voted for a man who openly stated that he sexually assaults women. Every single Trump voter voted for a man who regularly makes racist statements https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

    Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that every single Trump voter is a racist and a misogynist. You don’t want that label? Stop supporting someone who is so blatantly racist and sexist. The issue is your POV. You think anything less than white male supremacy is bigoted. That is because you have normalized your own bigotry.

  24. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    You have to change what he actually said (lie) to make that work. You refuse to consider the context which was a private conversation about women who throw themselves at him all the time.

  25. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    “so blatantly racist and sexist”

    That would be you. You openly hate men and white people, particularly those who are both white and male. I can quote you if you need a refresher.

  26. Wobblie
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Aloha , liberal electoral defeatism is a fascinating thing to observe. Not a single vote has been counted and JH and Lynn have already decided who to scape goat. It is almost like 3 years of Russiagate and 4 months of impeachment has not fired them up for “any blue will do”.

  27. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    In order to say Trump is racist you have to lie and say he said all illegal immigrants coming from Mexico are rapists and murderers. He did not say that so you have a problem there. To deny that a high number of violent criminals do enter illegally is not realistic. What Donald Trump said is true.

    Some Americans are rapists and murderers too as I’m sure you know. I guess we have enough of a problem with that already. We don’t need to have policies that make it worse. Why even bother catching and releasing? Just completely open the borders, right? I’m sure that would help everything for everyone.

  28. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie, I am working hard to help these folks see the wisdom of voting for Bernie Sanders if he gets the nomination, fwiw.

  29. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    HW, no one needs to lie about Donald Trump. He regularly says racist things which are mostly agreed with by his racist supporters.

  30. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    To me statements of opinion without evidence are worth little. Smearing others based on that standard indicates an extraordinarily feeble mind.

  31. Kim
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Now the Sanders campaign is putting shit out about Biden’s “corruption problem.”

    https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1219328159470051335?s=21

  32. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    HW, I think it is also fair to say that statements of opinion even with evidence are worth little to you if they differ at all from your worldview. I could provide you with all of the evidence in the world and you are so biased that you would just dismiss it as lies.

  33. Anonymous
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/political-hobbyists-are-ruining-politics/605212/

  34. Anonymous
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    https://newrepublic.com/article/156000/educated-fools-democrats-misunderstand-politics-social-class

  35. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    That’s just another baseless claim, Lynne. Show me where you gave good evidence I thought was worthless. You can’t do it just like you can’t “provide all the evidence in the world” like you say. You can’t produce shit.

  36. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    How is it ‘fair’ to make a proclamation about someone else when you lack evidence of what you say? You must shed rust everywhere there is so much irony with you.

  37. Wobblie
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Aloha Lynn , keep the faith EW could make a come back. As for HW he is counting on all the secret indictments to clear the way for the frauds re-election. Don’t pay him any mind he lives in a separate reality.

  38. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    My understanding is so much closer to the truth than yours you cannot believe it, Wobblie. For example I have been talking about elite child trafficking rings for a long time. Now they are getting busted. One after another movers and shakers in the political world are going down. You think it is a joke though. For example:

    A man name George Nader was arrested in July who funneled illegal money to Hillary Clinton. Mueller’s would-be star witness George Nader was indicted for transporting a fourteen year old boy for sex.

  39. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Wobblie. I am volunteering for her campaign as much as my health allows which mostly means making phone calls from home. I hope she wins but at least I know that if she does not, it will not be for a lack of effort on my part. I will do the same kind of work for whoever wins the Democratic nomination too. There isn’t a single one of them I think would be a worse president than what we have.

    HW, the reason I have that opinion of you is that I have posted evidence, even right here in this discussion, and you have seemingly ignored it. Whatever. As wobblie points out, there is no reason to pay you any mind. I always hate myself a little when I do. LOL

    Anonymous, I am not sure what to think about that Atlantic article. It is true that those for whom the system works are less personally motivated to do the harder forms of political work. Yet, I think there is some value in being informed and even in discussing things with others. I recently sat down with a college educated white male friend who voted for Trump and had a pretty good and entertaining conversation. I don’t think any minds were changed but I felt good to have gotten some insight into how he thinks. I don’t see that kind of engagement is harmful. Maybe I am misunderstanding the point of the article?

    Here in the part of California where I am spending the winter, active political engagement is pretty normal. There are a lot of marches and rallies at any rate and people show up! Often they are organized by minorities but often not too. *shrug*. Again, I can see how sometimes what they do is not helpful but I am not sure I agree that it is harmful but will admit that it could be that it is just not harmful to me, a pretty well off college educated white woman.

  40. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    What evidence did you post that I didn’t rebut? Talking about your interpretation of Trump’s crude comment about women who want to get some billionaire action? I answered that. You need to distinguish between what he said and what you think it means.

  41. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    HW, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/ as evidence of racist comments

  42. iRobert
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Lynne: “but will admit that it could be that it is just not harmful to me, a pretty well off college educated white woman.”

    All this time, I was under the impression you were a black woman. I should have known no actual black woman would ever comment here on Mark’s blog. They avoid Mark like the plague.

  43. Lynne
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    That is interesting. The internet also seems to think I am a black woman based on the hair care products that get advertised to me. Sometimes people think I was raised poor when I tell them I grew up in the city of Detroit and attended Cass Tech for high school but no, I was raised in a part of town with lots of mansions and stuff. I only had to go to public school because my parents couldn’t afford both tuition and a yacht. Haw!

  44. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    I’ve answered a number of those over the years, Lynne. You don’t pay attention when people refute you so you wouldn’t know that.

  45. iRobert
    Posted January 20, 2020 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    I assumed you were a black woman Mark was paying to comment here.

  46. Jean Henry
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    Just noting thAt none of you offered up a van or even a suggestion about where to get one donated.

    I am already working on GOTV efforts. I’m not good at feigning enthusiasm in case you haven’t noticed. I am enthusiastic about defeating Trump and I know many under 40 who love Bernie and I’m excited for them and their candidate to take the lead. I worry that the opposition research on Bernie will undo him with much of the country over 40. He didn’t work for years, didn’t pay child support, has some bad votes is Socialist and really old and unhealthy. Sanders only Ream project is Sanders. His ‘not me, us’ campaign seems ironic. For those who are on the fence, being yelled at with a waving fist is not appealing. At least this time his plans are more worked out. I’m sad no one has picked up the UBI ball in some form. I have changed my tune on it and I think many Americans would come around to it.

  47. Jean Henry
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Re the Klobuchar/Warren nyt editorial board combo platter, It reeks of tokenism, paternalism and condescension. Neither Bernie nor Biden would have accepted co-endorsements. The Times would never have considered such a thing with two men running for president.
    We don’t do ranked voting here (though we probably should) and so the job is to pick one.
    Say what you will about HRC, but they never would have tried that with her. She would have paid into them. Something to be said for being a bad bitch. (My meaning, not yours HW)

    The main thing about a co-endorsement is that it gives neither candidate the bump she needs. It’s useless. It validates the idea that when we support women candidates we do so because they are women first, that their gender is the main criteria for our support. Somehow this thinking manages to belittle both the need for representation and the candidates as individuals. It’s not feminism; that’s for sure.

  48. Jean Henry
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    Re the Atlantic article, if anyone here wants to move beyond hobbyist status, local politics needs your attention and action. In particular for those in Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti, 10 affordable housing projects being shepherded to fruition in A2 by the Washtenaw Housing Commission are on the books for construction by 2027. They will each meet the standard old retiree home owner resistance at every stage. They need your support. And yes people in Ypsi and outside A2 absolutely have every right to engage and their voices count. Also there’s another Regional Transit effort underway, this time skipping Macomb County. Since there are many more job East of Ypsi than west it’s important to get transit operating in that direction. Schools also need our support.

    I don’t entirely agree with the Atlantic piece (though I think some of its critique is apt) because I think all politics is local and I see the same people involved at the state and local level engaging in the real door to door work on national campaigns as well. We tend to agree more at the national level, so it’s useful to work together on those campaigns. All politics is local. And informed participation in politics is better than uninformed.

    It could just be that college educated Dems read a lot about politics in an attempt to understand how policy affects people other than themselves— whereas people of color feel those impacts more directly.

    You can sell papers and win votes by attacking some elite group, but that doesn’t make the analysis correct.

  49. Jean Henry
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    I actually need someone to vet a study being used by some retailers in Kerrytown to resist an affordable housing development on 4th and Catherine that is first in queue. If anyone out there has an ability to review methodology and results from a data set— Yes,I’m looking at you Anonymous— please let me know. I hate those cluster thingeys… This is just one example of the reason why eyes on local political issues is impactful. I have been the only progressive voice at two meetings recently in A2 addressing really significant climate and housing initiatives.

  50. Wobblie
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Aloha Lynn I hope you inherit the yacht. What ever you do, don’t grow up to be like JH. She has not heard a smear of progressives that she is not willing to repeat. Your folks sending you to public school clearly has given you much more empathy and common sense. It is possible for individuals to escape their class backgrounds and join with the rest of humanity. For example RFK Jr. basically endorsed Tulsi yesterday. The Kennedy wing of the Democratic Party has frequently been able to extend some level of solidarity from their position of privilege. Most though are like JH and ultimately are more interested in preserving privilege.

  51. Jean Henry
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    I went to rural public school in a poor community until 10th grade Wobblie. And I’m a progressive, a radical one to many moderates. We just have different priorities and beliefs about how best to achieve equity. How are you helping matters by deriding someone who works hard every day for worker rights, affordable housing, environmental justice and social justice? Haven’t seen you at public meetings re public transport, climate action etc.? Are you showing up for your causes at government meetings or just engaging on social media and at public protests .

  52. Lynne
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    I am very passionate about public transportation. I have had a lot of health issues lately (cancer) and it has wiped me out a bit. But maybe I will be back to my old self by the time I get back.

  53. Jean Henry
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Lynne– I’m so sorry. That’s rough. There’s a lot of the table right now. And very little funding thanks to Trump. If and when you are ready, I’d be happy to catch you up or suggest someone who can. Partners for Transit is awesome, if you aren’t;t already involved.

  54. Demetrius
    Posted January 21, 2020 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    @ Lynne

    I’m sorry to hear about your illness.

    FWIW – I know several people who’ve made remarkable recoveries, and some others who are managing to live – and enjoy their lives quite fully – despite living with cancer as a chronic condition.

    In any case, I wish you good spirits, and hopefully a speedy recovery.

  55. Anonymous
    Posted January 23, 2020 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    WATCH: Ex-Obama Campaign Manager Says No Question Bernie Sanders is ‘The Worst Candidate’

    https://twitter.com/mediaite/status/1220385920366542848?s=21

  56. Lynne
    Posted January 23, 2020 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Thanks guys!

    Oh I am lucky. My chemo seems to have cured me and I have no evidence of cancer at the moment. There is a high likelihood of recurrence so I have to see the oncologist every three months. A serious pain in the ass as it means that I have to fly back to Michigan in March (cheaper than seeing an out-of-network doctor here).

    I should be back fighting the good fight when I get back and I would appreciate help connecting me to organizations that are supporting things I am passionate about.

  57. wobblie
    Posted January 23, 2020 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Aloha JH, I’m glad you have such a high self-opinion of yourself. I walk on every picket line I see. I work to feed forgotten workers one Sunday a month in Cass Park. Currently I am attempting to get trade benefits for some 500 workers whose multi-national masters screwed over. Other than that I am trying to extradite myself from a country bent on self-destruction. This is likely to be the last national election that matters, and from my perspective it is looking very bleak. The establishment Democratic party seems to be hell bent on fomenting a new cold war with Russia with all the evil that entails. Given all the instruments of surveillance and the growing police powers of the state it is not looking good for folks like me.
    Since it seems likely that our country has thrown the towel in on doing anything substantive to deal with climate change, I am looking to spend my last days some where warm. Maybe be able to help the folks of the Bahamas rebuild some.

  58. Lynne
    Posted January 23, 2020 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie, I have a friend who used to live near Cass Park. She moved because she got tired of picking up the trash left by people out there feeding folks. I hope if you are doing that, you are also providing trash bags and making sure that all the trash is picked up afterwards! I helped her a couple of times so I could understand her annoyance. It is why I don’t do that and instead donate money to soup kitchens which tend to be more responsible. If you stick around to pick up the trash, then just ignore this.

    Also, you may be interested in a book a friend wrote. I have to confess that I have not read it but it may be helpful if you want to wash your hands of responsibility for things the USA does.

    https://www.amazon.com/Renounce-Your-U-S-Citizenship-Steps/dp/999532895X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Glen+Roberts&qid=1579819897&s=books&sr=1-1

  59. Posted January 23, 2020 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Congratulations on shaking the cancer, Lynne. I’m so happy to hear the good news.

  60. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 23, 2020 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Lynne’s friend is right. Allowing people to starve creates less litter. Fact.

  61. Lynne
    Posted January 23, 2020 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Mark!

    Not mutually exclusive things, FF. You can feed people AND not trash other people’s neighborhoods in the process.

  62. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Other people’s neighborhood park.
    Other people’s trash.
    Other people’s hunger.
    Other people’s responsibility.

    I wonder how many of the hungry people consider it their park too? It is awesome that you are able to feel your friend’s annoyance though. Real empathy there.

  63. Lynne
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Whete dlo you live FF? Because i would be happy to feed a bumch 0f folks in ypur neighborhood park without bothering to clean up after since it is not important to you. I would probably have to bring the hungry peo0le becaise I imagine that you ate the sort who won’t live near homelezz people. I expect you are only fine with it 8n OTHER people’s neighborhoods.

    You know in some placez Deja Vu provides tbhe homeless with Deja Vu branded tents. You wlouldnt mind if I helped organize an encampment in your neighborhood right? Or do you not think people deserve shelter?

    And before ypu suggest that I dont care about the homeless, you should know that I use my spare bedroom to shelter homeless people. I feed them too in my home without trashing the neighborhood. I do this even though they often rip me.off. most recently a ring my grandmother left me before she died.

    What do you do about this problem FF?

  64. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    A lot of assumptions and innuendo in your attempt to smear, Lynne. Wobblie is part of a beautiful attempt to feed hungry people in OUR and THEIR park and you expressed annoyance with the extra litter he may or may not actually be helping to create. Facts. Not innuendo. Facts. Not assumptions. Facts.

    It’s almost like you don’t like facts, Lynne.

  65. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    I don’t like the dejavu logo? Huh?

    I don’t like it when homeless people have a tent to sleep in that protects them from the cold? Huh?

    Sorry about losing your grandmothers ring. Maybe the people you were helping did not respect you enough to not steal it from you? Hmmm.

  66. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    I would like to hear from Wobblie on this. Is it true that the Outdoor soup kitchen you volunteer for feeds people without “bothering to clean up after.” Is it the case that you are not cleaning up after yourselves? Perhaps it is the case that the people being fed walk away and are irresponsible with their trash in THEIR park?

    It’s almost seems like Lynne’s friend wished she did not have to share her park with those other people making different decisions on a full stomach. Need more info though.

  67. Lynne
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    FF, like many white men who don’t actually live in the city, you presume to know what is best for residents of the city but you are clueless. The issue is that the city cannot afford trash services in the park, so residents of the neighborhood, such as my friend put in considerable time cleaning up the park. Yes, it is the homeless residents of the neighborhood who litter when people feed them but it is because people out in the suburbs come into the city to feed people but are totally ok with leaving the trash problem for others and that is not ok. I am glad to hear though that you are ok with an organization setting up a homeless encampment in your neighborhood. So where do you live FF? Because maybe that will be my cause when I return. I can probably talk the Vu into providing the tents and I can probably get some church groups to come feed them. You won’t mind taking care of any trash which sure makes it easier!

    I am not at all surprised that you are the sort of horrible person who is content with leaving such problems for others to deal with. You are a shitty person which is why I presume you dont do much to help poor people in our society.

  68. Lynne
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    And yes, it is clear that sometimes the homeless people I help don’t respect me enough not to steal from me. They stole my cancer drugs, my passport, my birth certificate, my social security card, my coach purse collection, my coin collection, my music cds, my bedding, my toilet paper, my towels, and god knows what else. I think it was because I was sick and spending time at my parents’ house so I wasn’t there to monitor things.

    FF, You seem to be blaming the victim here which is also one of your MOs. I recall you supported Justice Kavanaugh because you think it is ok for men to rape women. Clearly it is the women’s fault. *rolls eyes*

  69. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    “I recall you supported Justice Kavanaugh because you think it is ok for men to rape women.”—Lynne

    Oh dear….. I am very sorry they stole your cancer drugs,coach purse collection, jewelry and passport. Fear not however! They will never steal your shame because you have none.

  70. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 24, 2020 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    I was once friends with a homeless man who was also a crackhead in the 90’s. I would let him use my shower once in awhile when he asked. One day I let him use my shower and he changed his cloths in my bedroom. I knew I had about $1000 dollars on my dresser but I trusted him alone in there. When he came out of my bedroom he yelled at me. He said I was cruel for having the money out. He said he did not steal but he wanted to and it was a cruel for me to put him in that situation.

    I am not sure if he stole any money. There was still a lot there. It did not seem like he stole. I wasn’t worried about it. I wasn’t a socialist either. If I was a socialists. I would have been worried about having all that money on my dresser in the first place.

    Neither here nor there. Just a story.

  71. iRobert
    Posted January 28, 2020 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Sanders is almost certainly going to win in Iowa. The only thing that might save Biden there is if something keeps a lot of Bernie supporters from getting out to caucus. Even really bad weather might not stop Sanders from coming out on top there.

    Sanders is looking very good to win New Hampshire also. He might be able to nab Nevada as well.

  72. Jean Henry
    Posted January 28, 2020 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Wobblie— I’ve had similar thoughts re humanity and climate action and just going some place warm. But I’ll probably slog it out to the end.
    Is there some reason I should not be proud of the political advocacy work I do?
    It’s incredibly frustrating work so one has to generate ones own momentum/motivation. I find meaning in the work as I’m sure you do. It’s not like most of Ann Arbor is giving me mad props for saying single family home owners who resist development are creating severe housing inequity in our county and economic and racial segregation. Interestingly, Many of the people excluded from living in A2 Also think housing development is evil and my approach is wrong. I’m not getting a whole lot of outside validation for my work on the issue. But an evidence based approach is slowly starting to make headway against reactive leftist ideology.

    Amazing how the language of leftism can be used to prevent needed housing development and create an exclusionary community.

  73. Lynne
    Posted January 28, 2020 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    JH, Holy cow. You think it is bad there, but it is so much worse here. People are weirdly convinced that development leads to housing shortages somehow.

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