Citing a “betrayal of our national security”, Nancy Pelosi goes all-in on impeachment

Things appear to be taking a decisive turn in Washington. With evidence mounting that Donald Trump had attempted to coerce the President of Ukraine into assisting with the swiftboating of Joe Biden, and news breaking that the intelligence community whistleblower who first brought the charges to the attention of the IGIC had reached out to request a meeting with members of the House Intelligence Committee, things have really begun to unfold rapidly. By the end of the day, not only had another 62 Democrats in the House of Representatives announced their support for a formal impeachment inquiry, but every member of the Senate — Democrat and Republican alike — had voted to pass a resolution calling for the whistleblower complaint to be transmitted to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. And, not just that, but Republican Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina joined with Democratic Senator Mark Warner of Virginia to formally request that the whistleblower appear before the Senate Intel Committee, letting it be known that they intend to pursue the inquiry in a bipartisan fashion, which is something that we haven’t seen a lot of in the Trump era… Could this mean that we might see some Republicans joining Mitt Romney, who, a few days ago, publicly said that he found the allegations against Trump “troubling in the extreme“? I’m not going to get my hopes up, but it certainly feels like Trump, for the first time in a long while, might be feeling his Republican support slipping. I guess time will tell.

Oh, and then there’s the really big news of the day… Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, as you can see in this video, finally got comfortable with saying the “I” word publicly, announcing to the world that the House of Representatives had officially launched an impeachment inquiry into the President of the United States, referring to his most recent actions as a “betrayal of our national security”. [Apparently it’s a bad thing to block Congressionally-approved aid to a foreign country — aid which had been allocated in the interest of our national security — in order to advance one’s own political objectives. Who would have thought?]

[Over 200 Democrats in Congress now support this impeachment inquiry into President Trump. This includes every Democratic Representative from the state of Michigan.]

Donald Trump, the perpetual victim, has responded by tweeting “PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!” in all caps. He also promised to release what he referred to as a “transcript” of a call he’d had with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky, which, given this administration’s track record when it comes to telling the truth, I expect will be incomplete at best.

Here are just a few things to keep in mind tomorrow, assuming Trump stays true to his word and releases something. First, according to the whistleblower’s complaint, it would appear as though there were several instances, and not just a single call, that prompted the complaint that the IGIC found to be “credible” and “urgent,” so the transcript of a single call likely won’t tell us much. Second, as other’s have pointed out, Nixon also offered written transcripts when it was discovered that he’d surreptitiously been taking his conversations in the Oval Office, but, as we’d later come to discover, those transcripts didn’t reflect what was actually said in context, so we should acknowledge that there’s precedent for deceit when it comes to such things. Third, the administration is legally obligated to release the whistleblower’s complaint to Congress, and we shouldn’t accept a transcript in it’s place. And, fourth, the transcript, assuming it’s legitimate, does not need to demonstrate that Trump threatened to withhold foreign aid until such time that the Ukraine President agreed to investigate Biden. It is an impeachable act for the President to ask a world leader to open an investigation into an political opponent, regardless of whether or not there’s a quid pro quo involved. [By the way, if Trump really thought a crime was committed, he would have taken this to the FBI to investigate instead of the Ukrainians.]

So, why is Trump offering a transcript? Well, my guess, having lived through “the Barr memo“, is that he wants to establish a false narrative before the details of the whistleblower’s complaint are made public. So, whatever it says, I’d take it with a grain of salt, and wait for few days before announcing that this whole thing amounted to nothing… If that was really the case, Trump’s appointed IGIC, Michael Atkinson, wouldn’t have determined the whistleblower complaint to be both “credible” and “urgent”, and Trump’s acting DNI, Joseph Maguire, would have done his duty, followed the law, and taken the complaint to the members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. But he didn’t do that. Instead, he took the complaint to William Barr, who continues to hide it from view. So, yes, I think it’s safe to assume there’s more to it than just a simple, innocuous call between Trump and Zelensky.

One last thing. I really like this idea of Dan Pfeiffer’s to draft either Sally Yates or Preet Bharara to be the point person on this as we move forward. We need someone who can make the case 24/7, reminding the American people why it’s absolutely necessary for us to prosecute the President and defend the rule of law.

OK, I know I said that was the last thing I was going to say on the matter, but it’s probably also worth noting that the President’s private attorney, Rudy Giuliani, just said publicly that he only initiated conversation with the Ukrainians on the subject of Joe Biden after being instructed to do so by the State Department, meaning that this whole initiative was being directed by the federal government. [Who’s going to be called to testify first, Mike Pompeo or Rudy Giuliani?]

Oh, and while we’re talking about Giuliani quotes, check out this one from this past May’s New York Times, in which he does a pretty good job of articulating the crime for federal prosecutors. [God, I can’t wait for him to testify.]

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98 Comments

  1. Kim
    Posted September 24, 2019 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Some really great background on how presidential calls are monitored and recorded by someone who worked in the Obama White House.

    https://twitter.com/LarryPfeifferDC/status/1176587533322342400?s=20

  2. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 5:51 am | Permalink

    What’s most important is that the public is brought along through the entire process. The Dems need a majority of Americans to be on board with this. It’s really important that people understand why each and every action is taken.

  3. John Brown
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    LOCK HIM UP! Then hang him for treason. Then redflag and round up every god damn fascist bootlicker militia wannabe whose ever played along with “Roger Stones rebellion” threat, every 3% er, every Oathkeeper, every fucking Proud boy thats ever been instigating violence on behalf of a ruskie stooge traitor. Restore sanity and Constitutional rule to the USA.

  4. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    Aloha, A pretty good primer on impeachment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRtJXnsUYBc&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2YzlrG8Q9IZUGwE2RfvRpeFOij-ly-bHH-XnYfVKvUuKlJrefC7j74Cy4

  5. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Trump has changed the reason he’s giving for why he held up aid to Ukraine.

    I don’t see how EOS and HW could believe Trump’s statements and actions are well planned and thought through. When he changes from one explanation to another, how could that be a good strategy or indicative of clear thinking?

  6. EOS
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    His statements have forced scrutiny on the Biden/Ukaraine dealings, and the China business transactions, which will result in criminal charges for at least Biden’s son, if not additional Obama administration officials.

  7. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    Aloha, I thought this was pretty good,

    Preet Bharara

    @PreetBharara

    Reminder: Coming from this White House, neither transcripts nor weather maps can be trusted

  8. Jean Henry
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Hmmm. Maybe address this along with your Biden concerns, HW and EOS.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

  9. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    “Trump has changed the reason he’s giving for why he held up aid to Ukraine.”

    From Europe not paying their share to…?

  10. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    “redflag and round up every god damn fascist bootlicker militia wannabe whose ever played along with “Roger Stones rebellion” threat, every 3% er, every Oathkeeper, every fucking Proud boy thats ever been instigating violence on behalf of a ruskie stooge traitor. Restore sanity and Constitutional rule to the USA.”

    Too bad you have no power to carry out your psychotic dream. Fascists!!!! Everywhere!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Shoot shoot shoot

  11. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    HW, Trump originally said he held up the Ukraine aid in order to get corruption within the country addressed. Remember?

  12. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Will this boondoggle at least have the benefit of helping to take Biden out of the running for 2020?

  13. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    Are those mutually exclusive do you think? Address the Ukraine/USA corruption problem and force the EU to pay.

  14. Preet Bharara by proxy
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Reminder: Coming from this White House, neither transcripts nor weather maps can be trusted

  15. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    You have a point, HW. I suppose there could legitimately be multiple reasons for withholding the aid initially. Still, it doesn’t come across well if Trump seems to be offering differing justifications at different times. It would make more sense if he mentioned both reasons each time he talks about it. To me, it suggests he is just winging it. That’s the way it comes across.

  16. Anonymous
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    “Trump has changed the reason he’s giving for why he held up aid to Ukraine.”

    Yes, HW. Here’s the video.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1176543508771069952?s=20

    Watch it.

    I’m waiting for your response.

  17. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Sad, this may very well erode Biden’s support, but we’ll have to watch and see. His support seemed to be slowly draining already, and Warren appears to be surging.

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Does being Anonymous make you slow? I already responded to that same vid.

  19. Max
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Congress needs to request the transcripts from Ukraine after they receive whatever the Trump administration provides and compare the two.

  20. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    “You have a point, HW. I suppose there could legitimately be multiple reasons for withholding the aid initially. Still, it doesn’t come across well if Trump seems to be offering differing justifications at different times. It would make more sense if he mentioned both reasons each time he talks about it. To me, it suggests he is just winging it. That’s the way it comes across.”

    Sound bites only though? Context

  21. Julia Davis by proxy
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Russia’s fingerprints are all over Trump’s pursuit of fictitious “Biden dirt.” It’s so blatant that the Kremlin-controlled state TV named a specific Department of State official in Ukraine they want Trump to squeeze, in order to extract Biden kompromat.

    https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1176855305440899072?s=20

  22. Washington Post's Josh Dawsey
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    At beginning of call, Trump tells Ukrainian president “the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.” The next time he speaks, he trashes Mueller, asks for “a favor” & encourages Ukrainians to speak with Barr & Giuliani about probes. They agree.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/transcript-of-trumps-call-with-ukrainian-president-shows-him-offering-us-assistance-for-biden-investigation/2019/09/25/16aa36ca-df0f-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

  23. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    Fictitious…Ahahaha! Right. What did she have to say about Russian kuhloozhun?

  24. Bob
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    You really love sucking down the Q Kool-aid, Hdub. And by Kool-aid I mean dick.

  25. John Brown
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    trump loving domestic terrorist like the guy profiled in the link are going to lose their shit and go off killing even more innocent Americans. That should cement a massive shift to blue in 2020. Go check the discussion on any right wing gun loving forum to see how detached from reality these heavily armed menaces to society really are.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjw7qd/the-fbi-just-arrested-a-us-army-soldier-on-charges-of-plotting-to-bomb-a-major-news-network

    If you find yourself on the side of the worst domestic terror murder streaks in history of the USA, you really need to question your sanity. If you don’t, someone else just might….

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Careful there, Threatening Internet Pussy Bob. We might meet someday and know it. You’ve already dug a deep enough hole by promising to beat me up and attempting to get other people to do it too.

    Notice I don’t make degrading comments about people’s sexuality or genetics or anything like that but my detractors on barkbaynard.com do it constantly.

  27. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Why fight when you could wrestle?

    In tiny little shorts.

  28. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    No quid pro quo. No pressure. Nothing. Very Nice Call. Asked for help with Crowdstrike server and the facts around the firing of the prosecutor investigating Hunter’s Ukrainian company. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. You guys don’t learn from past mistakes. Wait till the China shit blows up.

  29. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Wake up time. Make this your aha moment. You’ve been set up by none other than Donald J. Trump. “Think Mirror.” There are so many feints, fake-outs, jukes and traps in the strategy. It’s incredible. Then you get hit with the BOOM.

  30. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    HW, whats the status on the thousands of sealed indictments?

  31. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Still sealed and what do you know? No leaks. That’s different huh?

    How about the topic at hand? Transcript released. How do you think impeachment will go now?

  32. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Who cares about impeachment?

    Will this finish off Biden?

  33. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Voters care. Some dems are in a tough spot over it. They don’t want to invigorate the opposition.

    Are you seriously asking about this being the end for Creepy?

  34. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    I predict it doesn’t finish Biden off.

    I mention the sealed indictments, HW, because we’ve been hearing from you for a long time about them being unsealed soon. I predicted they wouldn’t be because it is simply something that is being held over the heads of those thousands of individuals to control them when needed. I think it’s essentially a massive extortion operation. If you are correct and they are actually to be unsealed at some point, what on earth is taking so long?

  35. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏@realDonaldTrump
    Follow Follow @realDonaldTrump

    “Democrats wrote to the Ukrainian government in May 2018 urging it to continue investigations into President Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia in the 2016 presidential campaign — collusion later found NOT TO EXIST.”

  36. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Most of the impeachment crowd is a bunch of goofballs.

    I don’t think Mark is a goofball but I do think he follows a script that is literally handed to him. I wonder if he gets paid to be such an obvious puppet.

    If true, then I guess that makes Mark worse than a goofball? I wish a lot of people on mm.com would start using their brains. Many of you are getting played. Many of you are making the world a worse and more corrupt place. Many of you are playing a small role in history and it is not an honorable role.

  37. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    I’m trying to find the bright side to this fiasco.

    Since impeachment means nothing will get accomplished in congress, and Trump will become more popular I would just like something positive to come out of it.

    I don’t particularly like Mr. Biden.

  38. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Thanks for all of your info and patience HW. I don’t have time to look into any of this right now. On the surface it all seems extremely goofy…

  39. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    In regard to the topic at hand, I do think it’s possible that the Dems are being suckered on this Ukraine call and whistle-blower complaint. However, I am not convinced of that yet. If it is a set-up, the Democrats will definitely pay a price with public opinion.

  40. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    You are making a lot of sense to me Sad. I was not directing that “goofy” comment to you. I think your perspective makes sense here. Biden would make a horrible president. I don’t think he had a chance of getting nominated anyway.

    I hope the bright side to come out of this is that people like Mark start to catch on that they are getting used. I would like people to become much more skeptical.

  41. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    If there are in fact some 50,000 sealed indictments around the country right now what does that represent? Has there ever been anything like that in history? Housecleaning comes before the party starts, correct? If your house is alllll kinds of fucked up it’s going to take time and effort to get ready (compromised politicians, judges, agency heads, spies, etc.) If you are putting on the biggest bash in the history of the universe that takes a good deal of planning and execution to pull off.

    Think of the enormity of removing the corrupt establishment with all of their wealth and power. It’s been planned for many years. I’m not worried about time. I have plenty of popcorn to enjoy the entire show I’m sure.

  42. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    I’m not sure what to look for to get a sense of whether or not this happened ‘organically’ so to speak, or if it was set up from the get-go. Anybody else out there have an idea?

    I’m confident Trump isn’t in the know regardless. I’d say none of the individuals we hear speaking on behalf of the administration are.

    I don’t have any confidence that Democrats can’t be walked right into traps over and over. From what I’ve seen and observed, the Democratic Party isn’t being well consulted.

  43. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    HW, if the 50,000 sealed indictments are actually a massive extortion operation, naturally the cover story would be that it’s the preparation for a big housecleaning. Things that sweeping and righteous have never happened in politics, in this country or in any other. So it would be a first for certain.

  44. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    In the know about what?

  45. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    If it was extortion why wouldn’t they just bust him for extortion? Unleash their own Storm of media-driven fury and Get Trump once and for all?

  46. Frosted Flakes
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Just curious if DD is supporting Tulsi’s stand against impeachment? What are your thoughts? For me, it is another indicator that Tulsi is not a corrupt-goofball-tool. She in fact is a very decent person…

  47. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    The thing is HW, criminals defend themselves rigorously. Powerful criminals defend themselves rigorously and with considerable resources. Hanging the threat of exposure over the heads of thousands of well-connected f individuals engaged in criminal activity would be one hell of a thing to pull off. I wouldn’t even imagine it’s possible really. I wish I were able to join you in that extraordinary optimism of yours, but I’m not.

  48. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    HW: “In the know about what?”

    In the know about the strategy behind the whistle-blower. Trump and his spokespeople don’t seem to be confident at all. It’s similar to what the Trump campaign looked like in 2016. But, like I say, that doesn’t tell us anything about what might be going on behind this.

  49. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    HW: “If it was extortion why wouldn’t they just bust him for extortion? Unleash their own Storm of media-driven fury and Get Trump once and for all?”

    Because Trump and his people are not involved.

  50. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    FF, I support Tulsi in her stand against proceeding with impeachment. She’s decent and knows this likely is ending unfavorably.

  51. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    The crimes are so severe many will be executed for treason or imprisoned for life by military tribunals with indefensible evidence. No bullshit. No getting off because corrupt civilian courts wave their magic wand and makes it go away.

  52. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    “In the know about the strategy behind the whistle-blower. Trump and his spokespeople don’t seem to be confident at all. It’s similar to what the Trump campaign looked like in 2016. But, like I say, that doesn’t tell us anything about what might be going on behind this.”

    Uh, they seem pretty confident to me! I don’t know what you are watching. You know Trump’s book is based on the Art of War, right? How should you look to your enemy when you are strong and organized?

  53. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Trump doesn’t make the decisions on how those indictments and any associated investigations proceed. If he’s even told anything about any of it, he’s told the cover story. That is if what I suspect is true, that it is actually a massive operation which is set up to control a bunch of degenerates who hold public office and private positions of power.

  54. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    They are already controlled and have been for a long time, my friend. That’s why they are going down. They will spill everything (some already have I’m sure) and the whole thing will unravel, not just in the USA but globally. Was I correct or incorrect on every single thing I said about NXIVM way before they bit it? Patterns emerge.

  55. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    You were right about NXIVM being exposed, but I still haven’t seen any powerful people go down as a consequence.

  56. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Learn who the Bronfman’s are. They partner with the Rothschild’s in banking for one thing. Do you think the R’s are merely rich or nefarious at all? Either way they are certainly considered Elite if anyone in this world is!

  57. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Clare Bronfman still hasn’t been sentenced. Sentencing has been postponed. I highly doubt she will get a tough sentence. What do you think?

    I also don’t consider Clare very powerful or important. She’s the youngest of her siblings and appears to have little to do with her families business.

  58. Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    From the Washingtonian:

    Meet the Attorneys Representing the Whistleblower Who Helped Launch the Impeachment Inquiry

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/09/24/meet-the-attorneys-representing-the-whistleblower-who-helped-launch-the-impeachment-inquiry/

  59. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I’m told that Mitt Romney is going to challenge Trump in the primaries.

  60. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    At least that is what one GOP insider is suggesting. I wonder if he has the guts.

  61. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Their dad was important enough to be honored by Hillary Clinton when he died not very long ago. They played an important role in illegally funneling money to her.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/peres-clinton-remember-edgar-bronfman-in-ny-event/

  62. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    ‘From the Washingtonian:
    Meet the Attorneys Representing the Whistleblower Who Helped Launch the Impeachment Inquiry”

    Yay! Go CIA!!! I love them hahahaha!

  63. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    I’m anxious to see and hear this whistle-blower.

  64. David Axelrod by proxy
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Trump may wind up ruing the day he unceremoniously booted Bolton as his national security adviser because Bolton had a lot of visibility into the Ukraine caper and has absolutely no incentive to do the president any favors when inquiring reporters call.

  65. Lynne
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Wow. If Romney challenges Trump in the primaries, I may have to abandon the dem primaries to cross over.

  66. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    The President has a 94% approval rating among republicans. You think a loser like Mittens is going to do something?

  67. EOS
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    I agree – Romney is a losing proposition. And if Trump starts to clean up the swamp before the election, he is a shoe-in for re-election.

  68. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    That’s funny you have that instinct to destroy the other rather than support what you want. It’s just like on here where it’s shriek shriek shriek about the terrible things you imagine about me instead of conversing reasonably like iRobert.

  69. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Addressing Lynne there in case that was unclear. Usually I just expect it will be obvious who I am referring to but a lot of times some derp comes on and is like “Duzhennybadi no wut HW izh tokkeen abowt?”

  70. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    So another false story Bark and the Baynardites got wrong. Your record is abysmal. Do a little self-reflection and go back to try to count every single lie you attached to. A lot of reflection actually because that is a mountain of bullshit YOU championed.

  71. Eel
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    “If Trump starts to clean up the swamp before the election…”

    The comedy here is rich! I’d pay for access to this site.

  72. Eel
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    As for Republicans turning on Trump, I see that 11 voted against him on the border wall today.

    From ABC NEWS:

    Senate passes measure blocking Pres. Trump from using emergency powers to raid budget for military construction projects to pay for his proposed border fence.

    11 Republicans voted to rebuke the president, though the measure is doomed to be vetoed.

  73. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Bark & The Baynardites: It would be reeeallly cooolll if you made an actual band called that. Lynne on drums, Jean on bass, let’s see…Bark on bocals of course…anonymous on guitar…You should do that. Reeeallly

  74. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    iRob, don’t forget I said Epstein would go down long before he was arrested also. Fairly powerful individual I would think with all those famous and powerful guests. If I am correct about it being a blackmail scheme and the powerful are indeed compromised then his power increases exponentially. Don’t forget either that DJT told us back in 2015 or whenever that Bill Clinton has “…a lot of problems with the Island…”

  75. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I remember, HW.

  76. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    I still don’t understand why if all this is true Trump let Epstein be killed in jail?

    Explain that one smarty pants.

  77. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    I suppose sometimes it is hard to stop those deep state assassins. You have to put him in prison somewhere so you put him in a high security prison. If the warden is compromised then there might be a problem with the guards and cameras and someone might walk right into his cell and crush his throat. Then there will be people like you insinuating the you allowed it.

  78. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    insinuating *that*

  79. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Aloha FF, I’ve been spending my time with the real resistance, walking a picket line. I support Tulsi’s position on impeachment, ie. investigate and if there is evidence of crimes, then impeach. Much of the Democratic Leadership has now decided to pursue the impeachment strategy. I don’t know what was said between Trump and Zelensky. I believe that Trump is a rather open violator of the law–but so is all the plutocratic elite. It seems obvious that Trump’s attempt to expose a plutocratic rivals corruption for political gain, has pissed off the Establishment Democrats, thus we have impeachable actions. Notice how Pelosi wants to limit impeachment just to the Ukraine business. His open violations of the Emoluments Clause and his violation of the War Powers Act, and his unilateral abrogations of the Paris Accords, the INF Treaty and the JCPA with Iran are far more serious and should matter more—but we live in a world where a reality TV star is President of the US and a comedian is President of Ukraine.

  80. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Aloha, My thoughts on the “50,000” sealed indictments–immigration and deportation proceedings. Nothing to do with HW’s and Q fantasies.

    If it is what HW want’s to believe, then our President has been allowing a massive criminal conspiracy to continue for over two years–that equals complicity and grounds for impeachment I would think.

  81. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Trump didn’t make the indictments himself obviously. Eat some blueberries or something. Your brain needs a boost.

    Something of this magnitude has to be done with precision at the right time. If the rats truly know the end is imminent they will scatter.

  82. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Aloha HW, “Something of this magnitude has to be done with precision at the right time. If the rats truly know the end is imminent they will scatter.” the ideas of a man living in a reality TV show.

  83. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Aloha, My only thoughts really are, Be like Greta,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=54&v=KAJsdgTPJpU

  84. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Greta’s a fraud. She can’t speak without a script. Not a very good actress especially considering she is from a show-biz family.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwLt_5t73g

  85. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    “the ideas of a man living in a reality TV show.”

    If it turns out I am correct as usual will you capitulate or go form a leper colony with the handful of others who can’t accept reality? The Baynarditic Leper Colony est. 2020

  86. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    If the indictments are for illegal immigrants why would they need to hold them back? I think you would see some action on it if that was the case.

  87. dogmatic dolt
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    Aloha, if you self deport, no need to bring the indictment forward. Case closed.

  88. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    I can’t imagine the indictments are against any illegal immigrants. There’s be no reason not to proceed immediately.

  89. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Did everyone watch Trump’s press conference today?

  90. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Ahahahaha

    https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/16/document-text?overview=closed

    TREATY WITH UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS

    __________

    MESSAGE

    from

    THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

    transmitting

    TREATY BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL
    ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS WITH ANNEX, SIGNED AT KIEV ON JULY 22,
    1998, AND WITH AN EXCHANGE OF NOTES SIGNED ON SEPTEMBER 30, 1999, WHICH
    PROVIDES FOR ITS PROVISIONAL APPLICATION

  91. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    I saw it.

    I hate to say it, but he’s a genius.

    A twisted fuck.

    But a genius.

    Did you see the tape he released of Pelosi talking about the Clinton impeachment?

    Poor Nancy.

  92. iRobert
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure that wasn’t his idea, Sad.

  93. Sad
    Posted September 25, 2019 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure he gave it a thumbs up though. It’s worth a watch.

  94. Posted October 11, 2019 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    Support for impeachment reaches highest level in Fox News poll

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465110-support-for-impeachment-reaches-highest-level-in-fox-news-poll

    (From The Hill)

  95. EOS
    Posted October 11, 2019 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Anyone see Hilliary speak yesterday? Wonder when she will announce her candidacy? I suspect she is waiting for Biden’s indictment.

  96. Sad
    Posted October 11, 2019 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    You’re obsessed with Hillary.

    Sad.

    If she doesn’t run will you apologize?

  97. Lynne
    Posted October 11, 2019 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    I sometimes feel that a lot of people don’t understand that HRC has a pretty good sense of humor. She is not going to run for president! LOL

  98. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted October 12, 2019 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Clinton is not able to run in more ways than one. She could graciously accept a never-before-seen ‘double bill’ candidacy as Vice President to Warren though and acting as sort of a Dick Cheney scheming in the background. Just a thought.

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