On a campaign stop in Michigan today, Elizabeth Warren calls for a constitutional amendment to end gerrymandering, get corporate money out of politics, and protect voting rights

We know for a certainty that the tide is turning against the Republican Party demographically speaking. And, as a result, we know that the Republican Party, in an effort to retain power, has been devoting more time, effort and resources to gerrymandering, voter suppression and other activities intended to prevent non-Republicans from voting, like continuing to whittle away at the Voting Rights Act. Today, in a New York Times op-ed, David Brooks did a pretty good job of articulating just bad the situation faced by Republicans really is. “To put it bluntly,” Brooks writes, “young adults hate them.” Here’s an excerpt from the article laying out the details.

…In 2018, voters under 30 supported Democratic House candidates over Republican ones by an astounding 67 percent to 32 percent. A 2018 Pew survey found that 59 percent of millennial voters identify as Democrats or lean Democratic, while only 32 percent identify as Republicans or lean Republican.

The difference is ideological. According to Pew, 57 percent of millennials call themselves consistently liberal or mostly liberal. Only 12 percent call themselves consistently conservative or mostly conservative. This is the most important statistic in American politics right now.

Recent surveys of Generation Z voters (those born after 1996) find that, if anything, they are even more liberal than millennials…

And, of course, those percentages are almost assuredly higher among young, non-white voters, which, again, is why we’re seeing Republicans putting the kind of effort into voter suppression that, in a more sane world, they’d be putting into things that actually help the American people, like health care and education. But, of coarse, the Party’s objective isn’t to actually help advance the interests of the American people, but to pass tax cuts for the billionaire class, ensuring that they continue to make their financial contributions. And it’s going to get worse as this demographic problem for Republicans intensifies, and they become more desperate.

For those of you who might have missed it, a really interesting story broke in the press last week about how it came to be that Republican decided to change the 2020 census form to include a question about citizenship. It turns out that it was a plan put in place by recently-deceased Republican redistricting strategist Thomas Hofeller, who had told the Trump administration that doing so “would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites.” And we know not only that Hofeller was behind it, but we know exactly how the whole thing went down, as Hofeller’s daughter found all of his files when going through his belongings after his death last August, and turned them over to civil rights organizations. And we know this now because quotes from Hofeller’s, like the one above, have been showing up in U.S. District Court filings.

The idea is pretty simple… You add a question to the census asking U.S. residents about their citizenship status, and, in doing so, you ensure that a large percentage of America’s immigrant population, already fearful as a result of Donald Trump’s policies and clearly racist statements, don’t respond. And, in turn, immigrant populations are undercounted, causing historically Democratic districts to be drawn larger than they should be, thereby increasing the number of Republican districts, especially in states like Texas, with large Hispanic populations.

According to the Washington Post, Census Bureau estimates suggest that “the percentage of residents excluded would range from a 35.8 percent drop in Texas to a 20.3 percent drop in Maine,” if this citizenship question were to be added.

So, we now have evidence proving what many of us had thought all along… which is that this “census question” was intended to preserve white, conservative political power at the expense of minority communities.

And that’s just one example. We’re also dealing with rampant gerrymandering, court rulings that allow unlimited corporate money in politics, coordinated voter suppression campaigns, and, of course, the blatant, daily appeals to white-supremacists.

And, with that, I give you the following video of my candidate for president, Elizabeth Warren, in Michigan today, saying that, if elected, she’ll fight for a Constitutional amendment to “roll back every damn one of these voter suppression laws, and gerrymandering!”

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  1. John Brown
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    I’d like to know her plan for the epidemic white supremacist terrorism. I’ve got some ideas…

  2. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Warren’s plan: To pry away their tacit approval from average Trump voters by offering those folks something of real value to their day to day lives. By listening to them first and foremost. By speaking to them with respect, and knowing the difference between them and active white supremacists.

    And then there’s fully engaging the FBI in a crackdown on homegrown white supremacist terrorism.

    Imagine if the government was actually Anti-fascist?

  3. John Brown
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Imagine capitalist not using their outsized influence to make the government behave fascistically. You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…

  4. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Aloha, If you want to participate in a Democratic Party Presidential Poll.


  5. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Crack down on white supremacist hoaxes. You know from experience at least 9/10 are hoaxes. What percentage featured here have panned out? The Smollett stunt put a stamp on it. Totally fabricated frame up of Trump supporters and white people in general. You can’t say you are not learning the pattern. The Smollett “lynching” was tailor made for you but you wouldn’t go near it.

  6. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Hahaha Smollett is your hero and role model. Trying to inflame racial hatred in the USA because you are political losers and can’t accept it.

  7. John Brown
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:03 am | Permalink


    If we ever get socialized medicine you better run and hide because we’ll finally be able to get you involuntarily hospitalized and get you the psychological help you so obviously need.

    I sure hope Warren is a much better cult45 whisperer than myself.

  8. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    You are diminishing every day. Your kind of people won’t have the power to suppress people who tell the truth anymore like that.

  9. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    What do you people think of the Smollett Lynching? Nice try or ill-advised?

  10. Anonymous
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Smollett is a hero. He was smashed by the deep state. Just shows how far conservatives will go to cover up things they don’t like. Good thing that Hillary Clinton will take the White House in just a few months through the help of Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort. You wait and see. Your time has come.

  11. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    A hero! Wow! For hoaxing a hate crime. That’s amazing. Or do you think it happened like he said?

  12. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    Clinton is taking the White House? You are in cuckoo land. It’s like “Well we got our ass beat so we just have to keep doing the same thing and try harder!”

  13. Anonymous
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Clinton has been caught stealing furniture from the State Department, which indicates that she is now creating a new shadow government that will take down the White House and rid us of Trump soon enough. We will soon be free from the MAGA set and Clinton’s new dynasty will begin again. You will see. Smollett is only the beginning.

  14. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    It’s funny how you go to flippant mode because you don’t have anything to work with. It’s a parody of extreme lefties.

  15. Anonymous
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    It is happening all around you. It isn’t my fault you don’t see it. You will soon get your ass handed to you and you won’t know what to do.

  16. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    No specifics then. It’s just in the air.

  17. Anonymous
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Plenty of information out there. Just look and you will find it. Start with the furniture. The emails were just the beginning. Soon there won’t be enough prozac in the world to keep you from crying daily.

  18. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    That’s what I mean. You are merely being flippant. There is nothing to what you are saying. What good does that do you?

  19. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Aloha HW, still waiting for you to express an opinion on the genocide in Yemen and your Leaders veto of the War Powers Resolution. You’ve had weeks to educate yourself. Also still waiting on all those secret indictments to be released.
    Meanwhile you support a Leader who believes global warming is Chinese propaganda. I don’t know if you have ever expressed an opinion on global warming. You simply ignore and hide from positions that your Leader takes that are obviously wrong. I think the Democratic Parties obsession with Russiagate (which seem to match your obsession), is all mental masturbation because you and them cann’t confront the really tough issues our country faces.
    Endless Wars, and being enthralled by our plutocrats who only know greed as a motivator (sane people recognize them for being pathological). I don’t know how old you are, but I don’t expect they will let you come and live in their mountain retreats with them.

  20. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    I don’t take orders from you. I’ll learn more about that when I damn well please. You ignore my answers to every damn thing you say so you start answering some, ol’ feller.

  21. EOS
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 12:29 pm | Permalink


    Other than the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia to help them prevent an Iranian led uprising on their border, how is the US involved in the Yemen war?

  22. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Aloha EOS, The US military provides in-flight refueling for the Saudi airforce so it can carry out its bombing raids. We provide satellite imagery so they know where to bomb. We provide drone attacks and surveillance for them. We provide training so they can fly the jets. Our Navy assist in the sea blockade and also search and rescue operations for downed Saudi pilots.
    And then of course there are the other Saudi allies Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, you know those people who attacked us on 9-11.
    The Iranians did not lead an uprising. There has been an on-going civil war in Yemen since the early 2000’s. Various attempts to reach a negotiated settlement failed. The Houthis are not Shiite or Sunni. The Wahabi ideology of the Saudi Royals calls for the extermination of all “apostates”, who are considered worse than “non-believers” thus ISSIS war on the Yadis and Iraqi Shiites, and the Saudi support for AQAP and the Islamic State.
    As Tulsi has pointed out, Trump is nothing but the Saudi’s “B”. Obama was not much better.

  23. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    HW, I don’t pretend to tell anyone on this web site what to do. But since you are constantly bragging about your intellectual superiority, I was simply hoping you would bring your great intellect to these problems. But I guess you are too busy with your obsession to delve into matters of war and climate change.

  24. EOS
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Osama Bin Laden was Yemini. The Houthis are mostly Shia and are backed by Iran. They attacked Saudi Arabia in 2009 and captured several villages.

  25. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    You mean you are pretending you don’t tell people what to do, right?

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    “you are constantly bragging about your intellectual superiority”

    How is defending my intelligence against people who constantly execute putdown attempts “constantly bragging”? You tell me I am dumb while saying something stupid and I will call you out on it and probably bust your chops.

  27. Sad
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Mayor Pete is smarter.

    He went to Harvard and Oxford.

  28. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    I know people who went to Harvard who aren’t that smart.

  29. Sad
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    But mayor Pete is smart.

    Very Smart.

    I don’t know anyone who went to Harvard.

  30. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    I visited once or twice and met a lot of students there. It’s no big deal. I would have hated going there I’m sure.

  31. Sad
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    It probably wouldn’t have been challenging enough for you.

  32. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Aloha EOS, Osama Bin Laden was born a Saudi subject and recognized that as his citizenship. He was a member of a Yemini clan (clans cross international borders, my mothers family are members of the Tarnawa clan whose members can be found in Poland, Croatia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Belorussia, Pakistan and Japan–you figure out those connections).
    Houthis are primarily members of the Zaidi sect, whom the Saudis want everyone to think is the same as Iranian Shia. The Zaidi follow some what different practices. It would be like saying since I’m Roman Catholic and you are Orthodox Russian we follow the same faith. From the perspective of a Calvinist I suppose it looks that way. To those who practice the faith, they are quit different and historically has not kept Catholic and Orthodox folks from killing each other.
    The Saudi Royal family —think about that–the country is owned by them. They are absolute monarchs who finance an ideology of extremism called Wahhabism. They are not the main stream of Sunni religious thought.
    The evil Iranians practice a form of democracy at least.
    So genocide in the name of one religion over another and for geopolitical purposes is OK with your Christian outlook?

  33. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    I was never interested in practicing law or medicine or propaganda or anything else Harvard has to offer so it’s a moot point.

  34. Anonymous
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    Now I’m confused. Looks like Tucker Carlson likes Warren too.


  35. Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    What’s not to like?

  36. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    What’s not to like? I don’t know, that particular Warren speech?

    Listen, Tucker Carlson has surprised a lot of people by evolving over the last 3 years. Surprisingly, his takes have been far more superior and more even-handed to the takes regularly found here….It is not even close. I know you guys think he is a joke. Sorry. Tucker is not the joke.


  37. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    My brother went to boarding school with Tucker Carlson. Same class. They argued politics constantly. Tucker argued politics constantly with anyone who would have him. He liked to win arguments unfairly. He often morphed his position mid argument in order to win. And then changed it back again. He wasn’t a genius or even especially smart. He just liked to argue. I think blowhard was the term my brother used. He’s for sure not smarter than most of the people here. He has been interested in politics for a very long time. He has not changed very much.

  38. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Carlson has been rebranding himself as a populist lately, because he sees the way the political winds are blowing, but no one expressed more smug disregard for the working class than Carlson. His dad married an heiress. He grew up extremely rich and isolated with almost no contact with anyone working class who wasn’t a servant. There are only so many people in this country who can say they don’t know any working class people. Carlson is one of them.

    Warren doesn’t need him. I don’t trust his interest in Warren at all.

    This was good. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/opinion/elizabeth-warren-america.html

  39. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Carlson ended that bit on Warren arguing for a new GOP that is populist on economics and conservative on social policy. That’s a good strategy to save the GOP but I can assure you it’s more strategy than deeply held belief and that he’s only willing to go so far on economic reform.

  40. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 6:33 am | Permalink


    Consider why the Arab uprising extended to creating instability in multiple Middle Eastern countries. Consider how the extremely poor in Yemen, Egypt, Libya, Somali, Syria and others are being manipulated with false promises in order to consolidate power and eventual takeover by Iran and Russia. Consider how that would effect the geopolitics of the world. Consider who came to our aid after the USS Cole was bombed in the Yemeni harbor.

    I’m thankful we don’t have troops on the ground in Yemen, but not opposed to the limited support we are giving our ally to defend against an uprising on their border. Just as we don’t want Soviet missiles in Cuba, SA is reluctant to have Iranian weapons targeting them from Yemen.

  41. John Brown
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    I couldn’t agree more with Warren on the Constitutional responsibility to give Agent Orange some justice via impeachment process.

    I also think Warren has a personal responsibility to fully address the Native identity issue to the satisfaction of those Native women most directly concerned.

    Meanwhile CO2 hit 415 ppm. https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2 A level not seen since the Miocene 10-15 million years ago. We are about to experience one of Earths epoch defining events and our unevolved chimp-like brains can’t get past our crippling greed, xenophobia, and “winning” that next virtual argument.

  42. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    I don’t think he is interested in Warren either. He was using Warren to call out Republican leaders, however. Like you said he is calling on Republican’s to simultaneously hold onto their conservative social messaging while stressing more populist economic messaging. The populist economic messaging is how Trump won, imo, so it is not a new idea. MAGA was never about racism or xenophobia it was about economics….

    Tucker also pointed out something that Warren is doing that is good strategy. Warren did not exploit identity politics in the quote of hers, he read… She will benefit from continuing to resist that impulse in the future, imo…

    I think you underestimate just how dumb and not even-handed we are here at mm.com. The fine people at mm.com have been going through a process of de-evolution for awhile now….Tucker, on the other hand, has been showing undeniable signs of personal growth, as weird as that might sound to you. It sounds weird to me too, actually, but I think it is true.


  43. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    How does she think she got from the Mueller report that Russia attacked our election? All Mueller did was take the (bogus) IC assessment at face value.

  44. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Aloha EOS, you sound just like one of those liberal relativist. Glad to know that your pro-life believes do not get in the way of genocide for geo-political purposes.

  45. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    What would you think if it turns out Iran is controlled by the CIA like I said? Same as NK.

  46. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Sometimes taking action prevents a greater loss of life at a future time. Would it have been moral to kill Hitler to stop the Holocaust? That’s a question many still debate.

  47. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:09 am | Permalink


    I think Iran was controlled by the CIA, but not so sure after the revolution and theocracy.

  48. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    I think that was the goal when they executed the coup in 1953: to destroy the relatively progressive existing government and put (their) religious despots in power. Why might the CIA want a terroristic Iran? Think.

  49. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    I thought the CIA installed the Shah in 1953, but he was overthrown by the religious despots in 1978-79. They toppled the monarchy and established the Islamic Republic.

  50. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Think long-term planning.

  51. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    It’s obvious we don’t want them to join with Russia. What else? To steal their oil? Why would we want Religious zealots in charge?

  52. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    When you say we do you mean the USA or the CIA?

  53. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Possible double post: When you say we do you mean the USA or the CIA?

  54. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    I would think both. Do you think they differ on this point?

  55. Anonymous
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    At this point, it’s perfectly plausible that the CIA has conspired personally against HW because he is one of a select few that can understand what is REALLY going on. Because knowledge drop. And drama. So much melodrama.

  56. John Brown
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    “Why would we want Religious zealots in charge?” asks EOS of foreign nations without the slightest hint of irony given the frequent appearances of religious zealots in the White House praying their asses off over that neo nazi loving criminal they help install.

  57. Dogmatic dolt
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Aloha , Obama was on the right course with Iran and with Cuba and Russia. You don’t get people or nations to change by conflict. You do it by engagement. Tulsi understands the importance of building cooperative arrangements even with nations we have disagreements with. The Soviet Union didn’t disappear because of war, rather because Reagan engaged in detent. Signed nuclear disarmament treaties. Some of which the U.s has withdrawn from. Bush 1 convinced Gorbachev that NATO would not move east, and so the USSR pulled out of Germany. Clinton took NATO east and the Russians have not trusted us since.

  58. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    “I would think both. Do you think they differ on this point?”

    Yes. I think the CIA assassinated a President. If that is true then do you think they have our best interests at heart? It doesn’t seem to you we were being set up for WWIII? Clinton and Putin agreed: if she won it would be war. She swore to make war on Iran and to attack Russia militarily for cyber attacks as you know. We were on the verge of NK war when POTUS was elected. Sixteen year plan to destroy America that actually goes back much further.

  59. EOS
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I hope they start the Deep State indictments soon.

  60. Anonymous
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    To HW, the world is like John Wick III, except that instead of everyone in the world being an assassin, everyone is in the CIA. The CIA is watching his every move. The only thing that stops them from taking him down for good is his trove of exclusive and dangerous knowledge.

  61. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    They do spy on people and that is the least they do wrong. The collective denial is fascinating. That’s what makes you attack me. You attack what is threatening to you. If it turns out the CIA are nazis and your history is one of supporting their every move then I guess you are fucked.

  62. Anonymous
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    We are watching you.

  63. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Yihhh cuz yr the See Eye Eh, hih hih dat’s funny.

  64. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    People who think and talk at all about the CIA are paranoid conspeericy theerists. Is that right? Major denial of terrible realities. That’s the crux of the matter. It’s why you people act so insane. You are hooked on a lie and your identities (several people here, more if you count occasionals) are based on attacking who threatens to expose it.

  65. Anonymous
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    You do have a point. If you believe in something that is not believable by most people, those people will think that you are a bit nuts. Examples that come readily to mind include members of the Flat Earth Society, various doomsday cults, and Scientologists. But don’t worry about us. We don’t have our identities tied up into proving to you that you are incorrect. Worry about yourself. After all, they are out to “get” you.

  66. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    What if what most people believe is totally at odds with reality and you are completely insane? You might be the equivalent of a Scientologist. One thing I can think of that you have in common with cults is you both harass people. In Scientology’s case they stalk former members. In your case it’s anyone who doesn’t accept your lies.

  67. John Brown
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a link to the great body of work by Dave Emory that documents the survival, persistence, and revival of fascism. He used to be on WCBN and provided much anti fascist inspiration with his tales of the Underground Reich.


    Nothing has turned my stomach so bad as seeing that neo nazi whisperer Laura Ingraham and ruskie stooge Agent Orange spreading their fascist propaganda with the graves of all those anti-fascists American soldiers in the background. Antifa are true Patriots, and will continue the work of those brave soldiers remembered on the anniversary of D-Day.

  68. Anonymous
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    HW, you have no proof that we are not watching you. You should take this as a warning.

  69. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    “Why would we want Religious zealots in charge?” -EOS


  70. Anonymous
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I think HW is confusing anonymous with Anonymous. We are flattered, but not the same.

  71. marie shriver by proxi
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Today, I remember my Uncle Bobby and all that he fought for. I also am thinking of my Aunt Ethel and their kids who continue his legacy. Gun violence rips a hole in families for the rest of their lives. May we all understand this and work together to curb it. Now.

  72. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Read up on the history covert actions. Even if it is just main stream sources like Bill Meyers and you will how naive you are. Keep mocking what you have no clue about. Great look!

  73. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 5:31 pm | Permalink


  74. Sad
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Mayor Pete would never let the CIA or FBI do bad things.


  75. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Mexico freezes assets of child traffickers under intense pressure from Trump


  76. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    “Mayor Pete would never let the CIA or FBI do bad things.

    Whoah, he must be pretty badass. I don’t know how we are going to deal with someone of that power.

  77. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Nice try, HW. Child trafficking at the border is a made-up crisis. Children are being trafficked at the correct rate. I read all about the non-crisis at the border on a great website called markmaynard.com.

  78. John Brown
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    HW, you are spot on with CIA being Nazi. Covert actions by the CIA on behalf of USA have always, ALWAYS, been oppositional to socialist movements or interest. They are lackeys to American oligarchs. They are your political kin.

  79. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    HW is their kin because HW is a Nazi!


    Good one Johny B.!


  80. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    So dim. President Trump is at war with the old CIA guard. Clapper tried and failed to get back at him as Schiff promised and you are Clapper’s slave. You have pushed all the same lies. I expect he will be one of the ones indicted.

  81. EOS
    Posted June 7, 2019 at 11:26 am | Permalink


    Hope everyone has a great weekend!

  82. Sad
    Posted June 7, 2019 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Mayor Pete is having a good time. Always.

    In Iowa this weekend.


  83. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 8, 2019 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Aloha EOS, Here is an example of what you are supporting in the Saudi’s Arabia.


    Isn’t relativistic ethics great?

  84. Sad
    Posted June 8, 2019 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Mayor Pete getting stuff done.


  85. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 9, 2019 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Aloha EOS, meanwhile your Leader has decided the brutal absolutist regime that owns Arabia should have nuclear technology. Giving nukes to individuals who think others are nothing more than kafirs who can be killed with impunity–great idea.
    Geo-politics excuses genocide in your mind eyes. I wonder how your savior looks upon this?


  86. Bob
    Posted June 9, 2019 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Am I wrong about Warren’s ability to not get clobbered? She actually seems to be gaining some traction. Biden is such a walking disaster. He makes me sick. I hate to get my hopes up about her. She’s so wonky and ripe for parody. God I love what she says though.

  87. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 9, 2019 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Aloha, here is some one much more articulate than I commenting on the moral relativism of the West and its consequences.

  88. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 11, 2019 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Leader of the Democrat pack electrifies the crowd in Iowa


  89. Meta
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    New York Times: “President Trump claimed executive privilege to block Congress’s access to documents about how a citizenship question was added to the 2020 census.”

    President Trump claimed executive privilege to block Congress’ access to documents about how a citizenship question was added to the 2020 census ahead of a House committee vote to recommend two cabinet secretaries be held in contempt of Congress over the matter.

    The House Oversight and Reform Committee was expected to vote on Wednesday to recommend that the House hold Attorney General William P. Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur L. Ross Jr. in contempt over their refusal to cooperate with the panel’s investigation into the citizenship question.

    The chairman, Representative Elijah E. Cummings, Democrat of Maryland, postponed the vote until Wednesday afternoon in light of the blanket assertion of executive privilege.

    “We must protect the integrity of the census, and we will stand up for Congress’ authority under the Constitution to conduct meaningful oversight,” Mr. Cummings said. Administration officials, he said, “have made clear, very clear that they will not produce key documents that we have identified as priorities.”

    Read more:

  90. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Why would counting American citizens and non-citizens threaten census integrity?

  91. Anonymous
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    The census is used as an estimate of per capita resource allocation for general services that are applied to a population, regardless of citizenship status. Things like fire protection, police protection, emergency services, utilities such as water and electric, road distribution, public health. It becomes an issue when a significant portion of the population is undocumented and will not answer the survey, leading to an underestimate of resource need, and then a real problem when those resources are needed, even if restricted to “legal” residents. Now, of course, the glib response would be to say “deport them all”, but the reality is that these undocumented residents (or illegal criminals, if you will) are an embedded part of the community and economy, mainly because there is not a good functional guest worker program that accommodates what is really happening. It’s like outlawing alcohol in hopes that people will stop drinking. Didn’t work. Now we are moving to decriminalizing marijuana, recognizing the reality that it is used recreationally by a significant portion of the population. No point in making a quarter of the population class I drug abusers. Better to acknowledge reality than to deny it.

  92. Elliott
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    “Better to acknowledge reality than to deny it.”

    Boy, did you pick the wrong decade to live in America, Anonymous.

  93. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    ….and census data determines the number of house seats allocated.

  94. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Trump wants to issue 50% more h2sb visas, right? I think that would be positive. Bigger wall. Bigger gate.

  95. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Aloha FF, You are absolutely right. But it hardly matters. Since the 20’s when Congress chose to limit the size of the House of Representative to 435 underpopulated regions of the country have had a disproportional effect on our politics. The end of proportional representation has been one of the main weapons in preserving privilege and undermining democracy and equality. Allow for true proportional representation at the level of 1920 (1 representative per 245,000 vs. 1 per 710000 today). The additional 900 approx. representatives would all be from the coasts, and urban areas.
    What was happening in the 20’s that prompted Congress to self limit its size you might ask. How about all of our grandparents immigrating here. Between 1910 and 1920 the population grew by 15%–many of them like my grand parents from Eastern Europe. It was racism then and it is racism now.
    Puerto Rico statehood is seen by many as the way out. I’ m all for it, 2 new Senators, but I believe returning representation to historical levels is also necessary.
    I clearly laid out some dogma here, but I’m just a dolt who assumes more democracy is a good thing.

  96. Dogmatic Dolt
    Posted June 12, 2019 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Bigger wall. Bigger gate—that’s pretty good. Could be a campaign slogan

  97. Sad
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 5:18 am | Permalink

    Mayor Pete continues to impress.


  98. Jean Henry
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    “Why would counting American citizens and non-citizens threaten census integrity?” –HW

    –It’s already well established that undocumented residents will not participate in programs that require ID or citizen status to be stated (lying would be a crime). More so now. Further, Trump’s targeting for removal even legal residents who have committed infractions of any kind during their entire time here (even decades ago) adds to that effect. He has discussed going after naturalized citizens as well.

    The census is mandated in the constitution to count all residents. the part about Indians being excluded has been amended. Trump is taking steps to exclude them again. (Yes, most South Americans are Indian). This will give the GOP electoral advantage and reduce necessary human services funding to areas with many immigrants of any status.

    The only way to GOP can win elections is to game the system. They should have the support of socially conservative people of color, but they keep taking steps like this to alienate them.

  99. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Crusty, corroded logic circuit there. How does determining the individual’s citizenship mean they are not counted? Everyone would be counted, citizens and non-citizens. If they try to hide then maybe they shouldn’t be here. Why should the USA spend billions and billions every year to support people who sneak in and sneak around?

  100. Anonymous
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    That’s because the GOP is not really only socially conservative. It’s because the the GOP is socially conservative and Eurocentric. Both elements are necessary, not one or the other. Hence this weird Democratic “alliance” of liberal gay whites and conservative muslim Asians, something that only exists in America.

  101. Anonymous
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    “Everyone would be counted, citizens and non-citizens.” If you don’t participate in the survey, you aren’t counted.

  102. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 8:29 am | Permalink


  103. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    If you are trying to hide you shouldn’t be here. If a European did it I’d want them gone too. It’s the dems gaming the system very obviously. You gerrymander state districts with undocumented immigrants.

  104. Sad
    Posted June 13, 2019 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Mayor Pete helped set up an ID system in South Bend for undocumented people. Europeans and all other nationalities. It’s important to help people function in our society whatever their status.

    He might emulate Reagan once elected and do a big amnesty program. Exciting.


  105. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 24, 2019 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    For EOS; interesting development that appears to support what I said:


    Meanwhile, Iran has executed a “defence ministry contractor” convicted of spying for the CIA, semi-official news agency ISNA reported.
    “The execution sentence was carried out for Jalal Haji Zavar, a contractor for the defence ministry’s aerospace organisation who spied for the CIA and the American government,” ISNA reported, quoting the Iranian military.
    ISNA said he was convicted by Iran’s military court and that he was executed, at an unspecified time, at the Rajayi Shahr prison in the city of Karaj, west of Tehran.
    The agency did not say when Zavar was arrested, noting however that his contract with the defence ministry had been terminated during the Iranian year 1389 (March 2010-2011).

  106. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 24, 2019 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    …The report comes days after Iran said it had dismantled a “new” US spy network in the country linked to the CIA, amid escalating tensions between Tehran and Washington.

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