Today in fake news: Edgy Day

Over the past several years, we’ve seen a number of instances in which fake news stories, having been seeded through bots by entities that want to stoke the fires of racial animus and political tribalism in the United States, have spread like wildfire across the internet thanks to real people, who, it would seem, care more about the “emotional truth” of what they share on social media than its actual legitimacy. It happens across the entire political spectrum. Some of us on the left, who believe Trump to be a giant, television-obsessed baby-man, actually believed it when fake news broke about how he wanted to have access to a 24-hour “gorilla network”. And, on the right, we had people actually believing that Hillary Clinton had murdered a young man by the name of Seth Rich in order to keep him quiet about a Democratic plot to illegally influence the outcome of the 2016 election and frame the Russians. We live in truly crazy times, and it’s only going to get worse, as our adversaries around the globe now know just how easy it is, through the careful placement of false news items across social media, to get us at one another’s throats, to the point where we’re shutting down the federal government, talking about disbanding NATO, etc… Why build missiles and put them off our coast, when, through the placement of several stories about how Barack Obama is a closet Muslim who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and Hillary Clinton is a cult leader who feeds on the blood of infants, you can create just as much chaos, and do the same amount of damage to the underpinnings of our democracy?

Thankfully, it never really caught fire, but those of us who live in Ypsilanti were almost caught up in one of these ridiculous and divisive non-stories just a few days ago, when someone got it in their head to misrepresent an awesome community-building program at the Washtenaw International High School and Washtenaw International Middle Academy — a program intended to increase empathy, and decrease instances of intolerance and racism on the shared Ypsilanti campus of the two schools. [As you my recall, it was almost exactly one year ago when a racially charged email was sent anonymously to students of the middle school, and administrators have done a number of things to ensure that it never happens again, and that all students feel both safe and respected.]

Well, here’s how it went down…

I got a text message Friday afternoon alerting me to the fact that Ypsilanti Community Schools had put out a statement saying that it had been brought to the attention of school administrators that “a YCS school or classroom” had potentially been participating in something called “Edgy Day,” a reoccurring event during which “white students (have to say that they are) sorry for their privilege.” The note went on to say that YCS does not condone this practice, and, having been made aware of it, would investigate, stop it from happening, etc.

Having two children in YCS schools who have never been forced to apologize for half-whiteness, and knowing a thing or two about how conservative conspiracy theories spread across the internet, I responded to this post, encouraging the folks at YCS to take it down, and not just assume that, because they received an email stating that a YCS student had been forced to apologize for their white privilege, they should believe it. And, with that, myself and others began looking into the propagation of “Edgy Day” stories on social media.

Well, guess what? There were only four instances of the phrase having been used on Facebook, and all four had put out the evening before. And, most notably, all four were identical, and put out by accounts which appear to be bots… Here they are… As you’ll notice, some, by the time I took these screen shots, had already been shared multiple times.

And all four of these, it would seem, were put out shortly after the following Twitter post from a pro-Trump account known for sharing conspiracy theories, especially as they related to Muslims, and other non-white Americans, attempting to take over the country.

The above post contains the following screen capture, which appears to come from Facebook. And, that, it would seem, appears to be how all of this started. I’ve been looking for a while, but I’ve yet to find the “Refuse Common Core” account which is said to have authored it. As you’ll note, nowhere in it does it say that this happened at YCS. The only person to make that connection was the person above, who shared the post on Twitter, linking back to several rightwing commentators and politicians, in hopes, no doubt, that it would be picked up nationally.

As with most good conspiracy theories, there is a little truth in it. Washtenaw International High School and Washtenaw International Middle Academy, as I alluded to above, did have an event on Friday called Equity, Diversity, Justice, and Inclusion (EJDI) Day. But white students were neither “made to feel like crap,” nor instructed to bring an item of value from home to “give to a minority.” Here, with more on what actually happened, is a letter to parents from Nhu Do, the principal of both schools.

Dear WIHI and WIMA students and families,

We are writing to thank all students and staff for participating in our Equity, Diversity, Justice, and Inclusion (EDJI) Day activities today. The purpose of this event is to promote empathy, equity, and inclusion for all students. Student leaders in partnership with teachers planned and participated in an activity and discussion examining our different social identities and discussed how we can develop empathy and understandings for others.

We were made aware of an inaccurate account of what happened in school today: At no time were students required to apologize for their privilege. This is misinformation that unfortunately negates the dedicated and meaningful work our staff and students do to make our world a safer, more inclusive place for all. We are committed to promoting peace and empathy through education.

Overwhelmingly, students and staff shared their positive feedback on the value of engaging in discussion about inclusion for all and we are grateful for your support, engagement, and open-mind. Please contact me if you have any questions about our commitment to promoting cultural proficiency and equity.

Sincerely,
Ms. Do

So, now we have people on the internet sharing misinformation on “Edgy Day,” and chalking it up as yet one more instance of white people being cruelly pushed from their rightful place in society. Given what we’ve seen on the internet over the course of the past few years, I’m inclined to think the whole thing was a fraud from the beginning, but I suppose it’s possible that a YCS parent really did misunderstand what his or her children told them about “EDJI Day,” and then went right to Facebook to vent in their anti-common core group. As I don’t think there are a lot of “anti-common core” crusaders sending their kids to International Baccalaureate schools like WIMA and WIHI, however, I think it’s safe to at least consider the possibility that someone, having read about the schools’ Equity, Diversity, Justice, and Inclusion Day events, decided to create a fictional post about how white children in Ypsilanti were being made to given their possessions to classmates of color, in hopes of drawing the outrage of Donald Trump’s aggrieved white supporters, who honestly believe that anti-white racism is the most significant problem we face as a nation. Fortunately, in this instance, it seems as though the story withered. Someone made the decision to push the story, and others amplified it, but, thankfully, it never broke though to a wider audience because people were vigilant and they shut it down fast. Good work, Ypsilanti.

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125 Comments

  1. Lynne
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    I have to admit that I would not have thought that anyone would bother with fake news at such a local level. I have been naive. Although of course, I would have been very skeptical of any story about the schools deliberately trying to make white kids feel bad and I would have just outright disbelieved that white students were told to bring an item of value to school to give to a minority student. I can believe that some parent interpreted things that way though. I am still really surprised to see bots spreading the story more widely even though this is exactly the sort of thing which creates an emotional response in people.

  2. John Brown
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    These white persecution complex dipshits need to grow up and accept that their lack of success is due to their own stupidity, laziness, or just plain bad luck. It is in no way ever because of someone else’s success as is implicit in these racist social media manipulations.

  3. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    This really sounds like Frosted Flakes work. Remember all that “teaching” he did with his kids around the Covington kids incident. I’m sure it would freak out if his kids came home talking about learning tolerance and equity at school. And we know he’s always online.

  4. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Never heard of EDJI. It was easy to find out it does hammer on identity, privilege, etc.

    https://quizlet.com/356179668/edji-day-2-identity-review-master-flash-cards/

  5. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    That is hilarious the school tried to pretend they had no idea what was being referred to as Edgy Day. Oh, we have no knowledge of such a thing at all! We don’t know what you are talking about.

  6. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    “At no time were students required to apologize for their privilege.”

    But did they have to list their privileges or not? Apologizing wasn’t required but was there an apologetic component to the “lesson”? It sounds like a terrible setup.

  7. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    Aren’t you going to bitch about Black History Month HW?

    Are you upset that there’s not a a White History Month?

  8. wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Back in the 70’s we had a riot in my high school when the KKK incited the racist in our school to attack the buses that brought mainly black kids to the school–the racist attacked using 2×4’s and chains. Armed guards patrolled our halls for the next two years. In response to this racist attack we students organized “rap groups” where black and white students met and discussed racism. We met after school and between the rap groups and the sports teams folks began to address some of the problems with racism in our lives. EDJI sounds like an expansive rap group to me. Of course racism, sexism, ageism and all the rest are the tools the elite uses to keep common folks divided. HW of course is nothing but a tool of the elite, his only purpose on this web site is to sow division. Obviously he is a product of very poor child rearing.

  9. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Not at all. I do think Black History Month is a bit demeaning just like saying People of Color. You might as well just say colored. How is it not a dressed up version of that?

  10. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    @ Sad,

    The typical response to why there isn’t a white history month is that every month is a white history month. Yet on any day of the year, if someone claims that they are proud to be white, they are smeared as a racist. Or suppose someone declared that they are glad they are heterosexual. Can you explain why every other race or orientation can be proud but the equity and inclusion does not extend to those who are white and heterosexual?

    The problem with society today is that we can no longer claim to share one culture and be proud to be Americans. Divide and conquer.

  11. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    You are the tool. You divide people by race and sex. My philosophy is we are all living on this planet together.

  12. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    @HW,

    Are you saying I’m the tool?

  13. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    I guess it just depends on what you think it means to be American.

    For some of us it means a society that accepts and celebrates many different cultures and beliefs. A society that strives to honor our founding principles and is willing to acknowledge when those aspirations haven’t been achieved and work to correct those mistakes.

    It seems like the various identity movements are only trying to be included in American society as equally valued members. To claim their place at the table. There’s plenty of room EOS. Difference isn’t divisive and standing up for oneself isn’t an attempt at conquest. Unless your view of what American culture is is severely limited.

  14. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    I was replying to wobblie but you certainly occupy the toolshed. It’s nothing but propaganda from you.

  15. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    HW what does history show us about how we’ve done at all living on this planet together?

  16. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Finally. I’ve always had a hard time believing HW and EOS were on the same team.

    Good for you HW.

  17. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    We need to do better and you with this propagandistic shit aren’t helping.

  18. John Galt
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    HELP, I’M WHITE! AND I’M BEING ATTACKED BY PEOPLE WHO WANT A SEAT AT “MY” TABLE!

  19. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    I think the DEI events are the propaganda. Every individual is unique and needs to be accepted and treated with respect. But tolerance means we can disagree amicably. I don’t celebrate the fact that others embrace beliefs and practices that might be harmful to themselves or society. I don’t aspire to celebrate sinful activities, nor was our country founded on such principals. Ethnic groups don’t need to be indoctrinated with a compulsion to adhere to any group characteristic, but to pursue their individual desires and follow their God-given abilities, even if it is outside of the stereotypical mold.

  20. wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    What is “white culture”? The history of white folks in the US is filled with genocide, slavery, and discrimination. My Polish grandparents were considered “non-white” the Indiana KKK regularly burnt crosses in front of the Catholic Church in Shellburn. Since Polish was historically a “polygot” country with Tartars, Jews and other “non-whites” they were not thought of as “white” until after the NAZI genocide ethnically cleansed the country, now Poland is the most homogeneous country in Europe. Should we be “celebrating” that “white culture”. Look up what the Lord Protector of England, Lord Cormwell had to say about the Irish. The anglos took that same attitude about the Irish and applied it to Native Americans-is that the “white culture” we are supposed to celebrate. The Chinese Exclusion Act, is that the “white culture” we are supposed to celebrate? Those “swarthy” skinned Italians, Portuguese, Lebanese and Spaniards from Andalusia, are still hardly considered “white” by the biggest proponents of “white culture”. Look at the legacy of Louisianan law concerning race, is that the legacy of “white culture” we should be celebrating? You racist are all alike. Willing tools of those who divide and rule us.

  21. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    I don’t think students should be assigned privileged or oppressed status in school. That’s all. You sound hysterical.

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    I don’t think the KKK represents European-American cultures.

  23. Anonymous
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    “I don’t aspire to celebrate sinful activities.”

    How does celebrating cultural diversity equate to celebrating sinful activities?

  24. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Wobblie,

    You can find the same level of diversity within any identity group you name. Why is it OK for you to criticise “white culture” in a manner that would be revolting if it were applied to any other “culture”. When will we be able to embrace one culture, with all its diversity?

  25. Anonymous
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    I think Mr. Galt already addressed this.

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    That hysterical character “addressed” it. Okay there. You have to misrepresent your opponents because that is all you have. That’s pathetic.

  27. Steven C Pickard
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    All things considered the original Washtenaw area “fake news” event was in 2016 the Muslim girl who was “almost set on fire on the Diag for wearing a head covering!”. The U actually sued by right wing groups for peddling that fairy tale I publically doubted it at the time and got called a racist on Facebook. Weird times.

  28. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    @ Anonymous,

    No, he hasn’t. All I’m saying is that we should all have seats at “Our Table”. In the not too distant future, the faces of the majority at the table will be POC.

  29. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    These kids are being propagandized into certain feelings about race and privilege. Do they know what the central banking system is? Teach them what is actually happening in this world so they can think about it theirselves. Do not train them how to feel with inherently divisive concepts.

  30. Jean Henry
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    “The massive new study analyzes every major contested news story in English across the span of Twitter’s existence—some 126,000 stories, tweeted by 3 million users, over more than 10 years—and finds that the truth simply cannot compete with hoax and rumor. By every common metric, falsehood consistently dominates the truth on Twitter, the study finds: Fake news and false rumors reach more people, penetrate deeper into the social network, and spread much faster than accurate stories.

    “It seems to be pretty clear [from our study] that false information outperforms true information,” said Soroush Vosoughi, a data scientist at MIT who has studied fake news since 2013 and who led this study. “And that is not just because of bots. It might have something to do with human nature.”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/03/largest-study-ever-fake-news-mit-twitter/555104/

    Fake News is not a right/left issue. All sides are vulnerable. Fake news is just a form of gossip; they both run on outrage. Our outrage makes us vulnerable. Those on the left looking at this fake news targeted to appeal to the right, rather than insulting, should take their lessons and think about what beliefs of theirs are so deeply held as to make them vulnerable to disinformation.

  31. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Steven C Pickard, there has been quite a string of hoaxes this blog has gone all in on. This EDJI shit has at the very least a grain of truth. Notice all they said was students were not required to apologize for their privilege. Definitely there are EDJI “lessons” about privilege as seen in the link from earlier.

  32. Jean Henry
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    This site will check social media posts for fake content before you share: https://hoaxy.iuni.iu.edu

  33. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Blasting students’ comments on a big screen about concepts like white privilege. What could go wrong?

  34. Jean Henry
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    HW– All conspiracy theories have a grain of truth. A grain of truth is an essential component. That does not prevent them from being false. It for sure does not validate them, except for conspiracists like you.

  35. Jean Henry
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    HW– continues posting as though the fake news is true and worth discussing. And, in discussion, this kind of bullshit gains greater validity for many.

    What else is new?

  36. wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Nobody on this web site can explain what they mean by “white culture”. The expression is as old as the Klan. St. Paddy’s day, Columbus Day, Kosciusko Day are all events celebrating specific ethnicities that were excluded by the White Anglo ruling class. That ruling class totally destroyed African slaves ethnicity leaving them only with the color of their skin as a commonality. “White” read “Anglo” or “Ayrian” culture has always been exclusionary and racist. Like all simple minded folks, when you have no response accuse the “other” of hysteria. Hysteria was of course part of the “White” cultural playbook to de-legitimize woman. Just as Trump has pulled out the old “socialist threat”, “White” culture only has one playbook and it is called divide and rule.

  37. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    https://hoaxy.iuni.iu.edu/#query=qanon&sort=relevant&type=Hoaxy

    That was cool. It shows evolving constellations of bots connected to Jerome Corsi for example in my qanon search. Corsi got canned a long time ago for trying to hijack the movement. Q outed him as a Mossad operative.

    I don’t think it makes sense to speak in generalities like that about conspiracies. You are just going to proclaim all ‘conspiracy theories’ (loaded term of all time) are this or that? That covers a lot of ground. What will you do if many, many things you think are whatever that term means to you turn out to be true? Will you capitulate and be like “well I never believed it but you were right…” or will you dig worse than ever before?

    One year ago today Q posted RBG. I hope she is doing okay.

  38. wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Here is a Polish American Psychologist take on “white culture”. Seems as good as any.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/between-the-lines/201007/going-where-glenn-beck-wouldnt-defining-white-culture

  39. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    “HW– continues posting as though the fake news is true and worth discussing.”

    What are you referring to that I said? I looked up a little about EDJI and blasting comments on the screen is part of it. Students can comment on the lesson and comment on other comments and the teacher can put comments up if they wish.

  40. Jean Henry
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    I’m not saying what you said is untrue (I don’t know) but it’s not happening here or in this context. If we engage you on these issues that would make it seem relevant to mark’s post (even debunking it) and it’s not.

  41. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    How do you know? Tell us what happened at EDJI Day. I have no idea if that has anything to do with the classroom technology I mentioned by the way.

  42. Lynne
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie has a good grasp of this. There is no “white culture” but most white people in the USA are still very connected to their ethnic heritage and can and do express pride in it wothout being called racist. White people though stole that kind of ethnic connection away from black americans by allowing a tradition of slavery. They have some notion of coming from Africa but Africa is not a country and is, rather, an entire contininent with many different ethnic groups. So black Americans, who are certainly decended from many different ethnic groups (including European ethnic groups they also were historically denied kinship with), end up with their blackness as the best approximation of an ethnic group because there is a history there to which they can connect.

    So basically saying “I am proud to be black” is much more similar to “I am proud to be German” than it is to “I am proud to be white” which really does carry much more of a white supremacy connotation.

    I still remember attending the Celtic festival in Saline with a black friend. She remarked that she had never seen so many white people celebrating being white in her life! I hadnt really thought of it that way before but of course that is exactly what was happening.

  43. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    I think the software is unrelated.

    EDJI Day Identity Review

    https://quizlet.com/356180255/edji-day-2-identity-review-master-flash-cards/

    Did they use this? I’m sure nothing like the complaint could happen in that kind of environment.

  44. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    But most “white” Americans have a number of nationalities in their ancestry and many have little to no connection with their ancestral origin. Everyone needs to chill on this race baiting shit. You aren’t helping anyone.

  45. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Who you gonna call?

    Hoax busters!

  46. Lynne
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    HW. Nah. I am working hard on making people like you not matter anymore. You and FF have demonstrated that YOU arent going to change so the only real alternative is to make it so your voices arent prioritized any more. You are free to proclaim your “white pride” all you want but you will find that a great many people find it racist. FF can go on about how symbolic language of female power is inappropriate but he cant change that more and more people see that view as evidence of his sexism. The way you both call those who are working for equality “racists” and “sexists” is also something reasonably interpreted as a desparate attempt at maintaining privilege. As is a parent complaining that anti racism programs are designed to make white kids feel bad. I totally get it that the loss of privilege is painful. I get it that knowing that you got where you are in life mostly based on luck and not merit is painful if you have convinced yourself that you really are better than others who have been less successful. You lashing out is just a cost of progress and the more your voices are discounted the better. I am finding that this is already happening.

  47. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    EOS and FF – did you take the quiz?

    Did you find it Edgy? HW did!

    What’s the hoax?

    How does one go through life without spending time in public restroom?

  48. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Lynne,

    So why do you think your analysis breaks down with Hispanics, Latinos. or Chicanos? They can proclaim pride in their race. I hear far less “proud to be Mexican” or “Proud to be Guatemalan”.

    It breaks down with Asians, or South Asians, who typically express pride in their race rather than nationality.

    And Middle Easterners express pride in their religion rather than pride in their country.

    Why is it that only white persons cannot express pride in their race?

  49. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    I never said anything about white pride. Ignorant Lynne

  50. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    If you are assigning inherent characteristics to individuals based on race and sex then how can it not be racism and sexism?

  51. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    How is my voice prioritized in society? What does that mean?

  52. Wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    EOS most Central Americans are indigenous who were conquered and colonized by white people so no the logic is sound. It is your grasp of history that is pretty shaky. There ethnic/tribal heritages were pretty much trashed by the conquest.

  53. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    If you assume any individual is privileged solely because of their race, then you are racist. If you assume any characteristic because of a person’s race, then you are racist.

  54. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Wobblie,

    And how do you explain Asians? Did we conquer and colonize them too? And do you assign blame to all white people for things that happened long before their birth? That would also be racist.

  55. EOS
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    And if any of you question my motives, I am not proud of my race. But neither am I ashamed, nor do I have any reason for shame.

    I am proud of my accomplishments. I am proud of my work ethic. I am proud of my honesty. I am proud of my personal characteristics. And if you knew all the details about every other person of my race and sex, you would still not be able to conclusively guess any single personal characteristic that applies to me. And these are the qualities that I look for in other individuals. I don’t care what their racial identity is.

  56. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Definitely agree with that outlook, EOS.

  57. Sad
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Oh well……

  58. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Oh man. It sounds like EDJI event was an awesome time for all.

    It is great that Ms. Do is so in touch with her students that she knows that they all experienced the lessons in a positive way. I want to hear more about it!

    1) Did kids write their privileges down on poster board?
    2) Did any teachers ask kids to give gifts to other kids?
    3) What is the “border control” simulation about? Sounds cool. Describe please.
    4) Can you provide this curious little online community with the actual lesson plans for the day?
    5) Instructions given to the kids?

    Just want to learn more about how exactly your school deals with these important issues!

    Go Wihi!

  59. wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    EOS, Yes southeast Asia was colonized by the French, China was carved up between Russia, Japan, England, France, Germany, Italy and others all of whom had extra-territorial rights in old Imperial China. India was key to the British Empire. Korea by Japan and Russia as well. Never knew a Vietnamese, Korean, Indian or Pakistani who preferred to be called Asian. In fact Asia was a term made up by white colonizers.
    “If you assume any individual is privileged solely because of their race, then you are racist.” And yet prior to the civil rights act, Brown v Board of Education, and the struggles of the 60’s and 70’s white people were privileged solely because of their race. All of these things happened in my life time.
    EOS, sorry you had an inadequate education, but our ruling elite wants to keep us ignorant.

  60. Lynne
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    It really is amazing how toddler like white people are when threatened with equality

  61. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    They say: Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down. But I saw one fall down. Maybe it wasn’t really a Weeble?

    EOS is offering you an educational moment, Wobblie. It is being given to you for free. You just have to reach out and grab it before you fall down.

  62. Anonymous
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    The Irish, Poles, Jews, Catholics, Italians, Ukranians were all marginalized when they came over because they weren’t “white.” A 2019 defense of “white culture” is a defense of that history of exclusion and violent power.

    There is no “white culture.” If you want, you can certainly celebrate being Irish, Polish, Jewish, Catholic or whatever, because European Americans carry on many specific traditions and have some idea of where they came from. African Americans do not.

    Which is the crux of it. There is a “black culture” because being black isn’t about simply being descended from Africans. It’s about being from a marginalized caste, that is people descended from Africans who were enslaved. It is a shared experience.

    I am with wobblie. A celebration of “white culture” is a celebration of racism, colonialism and oppression. If you want to do that, go ahead. I will stand by and simply celebrate my glorious Ukranian and Polish roots instead, because it is much cooler than celebrating slave owners and political caste systems.

  63. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    That’s an incredibly immature stance though Lynne. Listen to yourself. It doesn’t even mean anything. I think it’s a good thing actually because more and more people will turn away from your kind of propaganda.

  64. wobblie
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Despite “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” being central to American Culture, many people are opposed to equality. That is part of the central dichotomy that is also central to American Culture. If you did a survey of folks who want to celebrate “white culture” I don’t think you will find notions of equality or unalienable rights for all Americans to have been much of a priority.

    When you talk about American Culture, which I believe is far superior in every respect to “white culture” , then we are talking about a dynamic and changing culture. “White culture” is nothing but an artifice created by racist who despise American culture which is filled with every hue of the rainbow and has every culture on the planet seeding elements into it. And one in which the concepts of equality for all is as central as land of opportunity–notice how those two concepts really do dove tail one another.

    When I was a kid and asked my dad where his family came from he would say, “We are all Americans here”. Though his family has been here since 1830. I think we are all Americans here, even those who enter “illegally” or just arrived.

  65. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if Lynne was referring to me but I really do want to know what happened.

    I think it is great that Mark may have correctly identified something as fake news for the first time in his life, but when I make a judgment that requires me to compare what somebody said happened with what really happened I like to hear about what happened. I guess it is some sort of juvenile curiosity I never grew out of, huh Lynne?

    I was hoping if I said things like “go Wihi” I could encourage Ms. Do to give us more info. Who wouldn’t want to hear more about WiHi “border control” simulations and what not?

  66. Jean Henry
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Remember how HW promised us that we would all be benefiting from the Trump tax revisions? Yeah, no.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-returns-refunds-given-out-so-far-this-year-are-smaller-than-in-2018-irs-data/

  67. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    You never ever think these things through. “Few changed withholding amount.” Most people got more money throughout the year.

  68. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    What’s going on? I thought everyone was against President Trump. It’s not going how you said for some reason.

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/11/trumps-approval-rating-rises-to-52-percent-highest-since-2017/

  69. ElsieGal
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Mark, thanks for sharing a real-life lesson about multiplication and division: multiplication of (mis-) information that leads to division of people. I said this in one of my comments on a recent post and repeat it now: I am so glad I do not have children, because I can’t fathom having to explain this whole episode to them in any kind of meaningful way.

    I really enjoy each and every one of your posts and look forward to seeing what you have to say/write on any given day. I appreciate your mix of national and local news as well as the extensive and excellent links you provide.

  70. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    HW– Where is your evidence that more people were paid more? Not changing one’s withholding amount would not necessarily mean one’s paycheck was higher.

  71. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    The “artifacts” of culture are experienced and expressed at the individual level. Individuals share, express and celebrate their individualized culture with others in an exchange that occurs at the individual level. That is there are as many different cultures as there are individuals. Time is a factor too because the same individual experiences “their culture” differently over different time phases.

    Patterns and tendencies are formed amongst groups. The groupings of different cultures are experienced and defined on the individual level. That is, there are as many versions of “white culture” and “black culture”, for example, as there are individual people who have the audacity to believe they are capable to accurately define, delineate, and JUDGE the different tendencies and patterns in any sort of meaningful way.

    When reading through the above comments please note: HW and EOS stand out as the two people in this conversation who seem most resist the temptation of using the phrases “white culture”, “black culture”, and so on, because they are more aware of the necessary meaningless-ness of those phrases–and yet they are accused of being racist. The people who thoughtlessly use the terms “white culture” and “black culture”, without cringing, as if their individual experience of those self-made categories exist in objective reality, are the very same people who accuse other individuals of being racist.

    Many of the self professed anti-racists on mm.com employ the logic of racism as their primary form reasoning. It is going to require a lot of uncomfortable self reflection and uncomfortable conversations with real non-racists to overcome your racism folks.

    Whose afraid of talking about racism?

  72. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    Ah I see. Apparently, the Trump administration pressured the IRS to withold too little from paychecks in order to have the tax cuts have impact on paychecks before the midterms. But the cuts were so small that most people didin’t notice, especially since inflation was higher than most people’s cuts. So now the witholding chickens come home to roost. And people are not getting the rebate they were used to and that most count on…. Whoops!

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/heres-why-your-tax-refund-is-lower-this-year.html

    PS Corporations and the very wealthy did very well. Unfortunately, they just hoarded the wealth and did not re-invest in their businesses of higher wages. Oh and the economy is slowing down. Now we are beginning to see the beginnings of the real Trump economy.

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/heres-why-your-tax-refund-is-lower-this-year.html

  73. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    Please note that in FF’s world view all the non-racists, defined here as those who avoid talking about race, are white. And conservative. Because everyone knows conservatives are the least racist. That’s why such a diverse coalition of voters support conservative politicians. Right? Wait, wrong?

    Hmmm maybe FF is thinking in a vacuum. That would be shocking.

  74. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/heres-why-your-tax-refund-is-lower-this-year.html

  75. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Jean,

    There is a big difference between avoiding the pitfalls of racist logic and the racist categorized that follow from and support the racist identity politics of today, on the one hand, and not wanting to talk about race and racism.

    Many in the MM.com community (yourself included) are slaves to their own bad logic and their logic also happens to be the same type of logic that slavery depends upon.

  76. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    I’m sure Ms. Do knows what I am talking about. Can we find out more about EDJI day Ms. Do so that we can see how your community addresses the pitfalls of exploring these subjects? I would really like to know what the lesson plans and activities consisted of. Why not share this information? What is “border control” simulation?

  77. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    FF believes he is an authority on anti-racism. I do not believe anyone here is such a thing.

    I know (via evidence) that talking about racism does not create or even encourage racism–Just as talking about sex does not encourage sexual activity, even though many conservatives believe that to be true. They are wrong. And demonstrably so.

  78. wobblie
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Yeah the Trump economy is booming,
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/02/12/record-million-americans-are-months-behind-their-car-payments-red-flag-economy/?utm_term=.391ab673a3cd

  79. Lynne
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    The Atlantic has published a list of books that may help white people dealing with racism. I have read enough of these to say that this list may be helpful. I am probably, for my own growth, going to read the others on the list. Anyone can do the same if they are similarly interested in confronting racism in our society and within themselves.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/antiracist-syllabus-governor-ralph-northam/582580/

  80. Lynne
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    The problem with saying that others have bad logic because they have come to different conclusions is that unless you yourself display some kind of logical skill, it comes across as a meaningless criticism.

  81. John Brown
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Lynne, I’ll take that a step further. No person who believes in a magic sky being should be allow the word “logic” pass their lips.

  82. Lynne
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    John Brown, Oh I don’t know. People can form perfectly logical conclusions based on a bad premise. FWIW, I have often found that people will accuse me of bad logic when really the issue is that I am working from a different premise. Granted it isn’t logic that leads one to accept a premise that there is a magic sky being but premises based on beliefs are common and a logical (but often incorrect) conclusion can be formed from such.

  83. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Apparently, I’m not the only one around here who doesn’t believe in ‘logic’ as the infallible path to truth. Logic is simply a structure for understanding. It’s as fallible as any other individual human thought process or framework. It’s particularly fallible when the outcome is predetermined by belief systems (no matter what they are). Even more so when it ignores the perspectives of those whose experience it seeks to understand/define. Glad to have company.

  84. Jean Henry
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Lynne, I know how you will read that statement. All I can say is listening is important for everyone.

  85. Lynne
    Posted February 12, 2019 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    FWIW I did not read that statement as saying that listening is not important for everyone. Also, I don’t disagree with that statement at all.

  86. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    You make a lot of stuff up Jean. Most of your claims are meaningless and counterfactual bullshit, Jean.

    1) “FF believes he is an authority on anti-racism”:

    Whether or not I think I am authority on anything is not relevant. (Appeal to authority.) I am expressing my view that a great number of people on mm.com, yourself included, employ the logic of racism. I have put forth an argument explained. If you disagree with me you should attack my argument. My expertise does not matter. Even less does what I believe my level of expertise to be. Even less does it matter what you believe I believe my level of expertise to be. Are you an authority on what I believe myself to be authority on? Do you see how irrelevant your statement is?

    2) “I know (via evidence) that talking about racism does not create or even encourage racism”:

    Talking about racism is great. I talk about it all the time. Many people on mm.com have a similar anti-racist program. I disagree with that program because I believe that identity politics, as it is often employed today, employs the logic of racism. You are on one of the people that employs the logic racism. I talk about it a lot! Because I am anti-racist, but I just have a different program than you. I am currently trying to get the principal at WiHi to comment on her EDJI program because I want to discuss it. HW and EOS also are willing participants in talking about racism. Pointing out your racism is not racist. (Have you heard that one before?)

    3)”Apparently, I’m not the only one around here who doesn’t believe in ‘logic’ as the infallible path to truth” :

    Jean, I am criticizing a form of logic because I believe it is the same logic that racists use. I repeat: I am criticizing a form of logic. I am saying that logic can be very bad in terms of how it is misapprehends reality and in terms of how it can have dangerous consequences. You saying I am trying to use logic to construct some argument against anyone is nonsense!!!! I am trying many here to overcome their particular misusage of logic. Your criticism here couldn’t be more goofy.

    4) “[Logic] is even more fallible when it ignores the perspectives of those whose experience it seeks to understand/ define”:

    I like this statement actually. Was this supposed to be a critique of what I said? If so, then it makes zero sense as a critique. A big part of what I what I was trying to hint at about culture above was that there is no “white men”. There never has been “black men”. We will never be able to point at that thing called “black culture” or that thing “white culture”. There are only individuals each with his/her own unique culture. There are patterns. We can group according to patterns but we should always be self-conscious that our groupings are extremely rough sketches. I am saying: Resist the temptation of putting too much stock into listening to what your own personally constructed concept of “white men” tells you. And yet you accuse me of living in a vacuum. LOL. The task,in addition to speaking our own voice, **IS** to listen to other voices. It is what we must do to fulfill our personal quests for truth and meaning in the world.

    (You have everything backwards Jean.)

  87. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    John Brown,

    It’s called “faith” for a reason.

    Also, have I ever revealed to you the status of faith? I have not.

    You are making stuff up.

  88. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 1:38 am | Permalink

    oops, should read: “status of MY faith…”

  89. stupid hick
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    Well done, Mark, this is a remarkable post. It’s important work that deserves wider attention. I’m disturbed by the lack of outrage in the comment section. Isn’t anyone else bothered that Mark has uncovered a covert and manipulative, locally-themed, micro-targeted radicalization campaign right here in your back yard? Mission accomplished too– just look at the comments here. Anyone else see the new HBO movie “Brexit”, or read recent revelations about Manafort and Kilimnik? It’s serious and disturbing.

  90. EOS
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    @SH,

    How did Mark (or anyone else) find these 4 identical facebook posts? Are they all friends of his who posted on his news feed? Or did someone else collect them and then post them for Mark to see. It seems more likely that they were first “found” by the person who made the fake accounts. I’m not outraged because I’ve seen this ploy too many times. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to change the wording on multiple posts. If someone took the time to make four fake Facebook accounts, I’d think they would have taken a few extra seconds to make the posts on each slightly different. However, if someone wanted to accuse the other side as being stupid and dishonest, then they would plant these posts and then point the duplicity to others.

  91. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    SH,

    Good point EOS. We do not in any way know the source of the apparently fake facebook posts. It’s like Mark has never watched an episode of Columbo before. (Sorry Mark.)

    Outraged about what again? How can I be outraged? I have not been given much info about the EDJI Day at WiHi. It may have been a great learning experience for children. It also might have been a horribly implemented lesson, with good intentions, by a few teachers who once got an A on that critical race theory paper they wrote at EMU, for a professor, who “teaches” Marxism and post modern ideas, but doesn’t even understand Hegel’s logic, or much about history, or intellectual history, except in a superficial way.

    It is important to keep a watchful eye on the lessons our children are receiving, no? I am of the opinion that even if it was a poorly implemented lesson that good can come of it for all sides by taking a look at the lessons implemented and how they were received. And having a discussion about it. Do you have a problem with that?

    Does Mark or Ms. Do have a problem with discussing details? Why? We want to know more about the lessons implemented at their top performing school.

  92. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    Mashed Potato Mashed potato

    Miki Yamamoto Miki Yamamoto Miki Yamamoto–ooooooh Yeah

  93. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    Wiggle Town.

    https://youtu.be/0v4-eAefurY

  94. John Brown
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Stupid Hick,

    Not sure how to be more overtly outraged than to constantly accuse the ruskie stooge and his accomplices as being the worse treason monkeys in the history of the USA. These fake outrage manipulations always start at some remote loci, which makes them easier to promulgate and harder to debunk once they go viral. No surprise one sprouted up here in Ypsi.

    I’m so outraged by this new political paradigm, that on Agent Oranges inauguration day I bought an AR and a high capacity pistol, more since, and have been training extensively with anti-trump Army, Navy and Air Force veterans. While it may come as a surprise to the Maytards, millions of these sheeple eating this social media feces up like candy are armed to the teeth, are being used as political currency, and may actually act on treasonous calls to violent revolt when the stooge falls. This is a slow burn existential crisis for the Constitution and our democratic Republic.

    FFS, the Pittsburgh mass murderer professed in court that he killed those Jews because the Faux News/trump propaganda machine convinced him Soros was funding the scaravans from Guatemala. It could easily go a step beyond this Stochastic Terrorism he’s already inciting, and the people normally charged with maintaining order may not be completely reliable.

  95. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I embarrassed to say I spelled Mika Yamamoto’s name in an inaccurate way.

    Can Mark please edit my previous post from “Miki” to “Mika” but please don’t bother to delete this post, because it is not a bad thing for people to know when something is edited. Transparency and what not….

  96. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    The potent and terrifying John Brown! Bustin’ the ol’ Ruskies! Threatenin’ the Trumpsters! Whoo!!! Alright. You are going to go far with that I am sure.

  97. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Senate intel committee finds no collusion. You will finally be conclusively proven wrong when the final nail gets hammered home, John Brown. No one is scared of you. You just sound like an idiot. Nothing you have said will age well and it will necessarily reflect back at you.

  98. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    I think you are being too hard on JB. John Brown will be always be remembered for his great work in 2018 and 2019 which resulted in him being a finalist for the “Stupid Hick Outrage Award”.

  99. wobblie
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    For those who have children or grand children,
    https://www.juancole.com/2019/02/environmental-breakdown-what.html

  100. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Weeble Town.

    https://youtu.be/yr83YRkbXpw

  101. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    I don’t see how the JB character is supposed to benefit them. A militant left wing lunatic trying to incite racial and political violence. That’s very appealing to most Americans I’m sure.

  102. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Very appealing to many in our community. He didn’t exactly nail the bikini portion of the contest either and yet here he is a front-runner for the “Stupid Hick Award”!

  103. Anonymous
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    https://www.wired.com/story/journalism-isnt-dying-its-returning-its-roots/

    I’m kind of okay with the fragmented news information cycle. It’s more Ben Franklin than Peter Jennings, and certainly very American. We’ll just have to figure it out ourselves, and have a sense of what the younger, rather than the older, generations are taking to heart. We are the future, whether you like it or not, and will be wiping the spittle off your faces and cleaning your bedpans in a few short years. Be nice to us!

  104. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Anonymous,

    I have always wanted to meet “us”.

    I have heard conflicting reports about “us” though.

    Could you introduce me to “us”.

    More than “us” I have always wanted to meet “ourselves” because I have heard “they” are figuring things out. But what do I know? I am told I am “them”, who I also would like to meet, because I once read “knowing thyself” is important. I am assuming the author wrote those words of wisdom pre spittle and bedpan but I definitely read it after his future ended. Should I care? I am told by anonymous sources that it does not matter because he is not running this shit anymore. The present is the future and “we” are in control, like anonymous said. I am not sure who “we” is though. If you can’t introduce me to “us”, “ourselves”, “they”, and “them” maybe YOU, Anonymous, can tell me, Frosted Flakes, who I am and I will pass the info onto “we”. Can you help me out?

    I think it is possible you are right about that spittle and incontinence thing. I will give you that. You never know though. Am I right?

  105. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I am getting the sense some of you guys did not watch the Wiggle Town and Weeble Town videos very closely.

  106. John Brown
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Hyperventilating Wang-yanker,

    I’m glad you’re soo not afraid of me. No patriotic American should be afraid of me or my buddies, since each of us has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the USA, are in complete compliance with the law, and generally have jobs and volunteer activities whereby we contribute to the well being of the community.

    However, our experience has made clear to us that there is a prominent Michigan right wing militia element, with significant overlap in active and former military and police, who while professing to defend the Constitution would actually violate it in the interest of christofascist-white supremacist ideology. As long as you’re not planning to join up with any 3%ers, Oathkeepers, Patriot Prayers, Proud Boys, KKKers, Soldiers of God, Angry Aryans or other sick mofos who might terrorize our community in response to Agent Oranges downfall, or even under his direct order, then you truly have nothing to fear from me.

  107. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    You don’t have buddies and I doubt you have guns. You don’t have the discernment to identify criminals. I’m not associated with any group. You claim militias would violate the Constitution without evidence. Proud Boys are multi-racial. You fuck with them and there is a good chance you would get your ass beat by an African American man or a Pacific Islander.

  108. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know why you keep saying Trump is going down and calling him an agent. Read the headlines, bitch. No collusion found. You think Mueller is going to save you from being finally proven to be nothing but a shit-spewing propagandist? Hahaha, fuck you. You do nothing but pollute the intellectual atmosphere. You are a cancer to the community. Nothing good is coming out of what you do. At all.

  109. John Brown
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Hyper Wanker,

    I couldn’t ask for a better foil for my “character”. Thanks for all your help!

  110. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    You talk about what you think I do with my dick a lot.

  111. John Brown
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Speaking of dicks, plenty people of color, like some confused proud boys and Patriots prayer, can be fascist too.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-38345746/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-i-killed-three-men

  112. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    How are the Proud Boys fascist? Because antifa says so? That’s a joke. I don’t vouch for them but I have never heard any “fascist rhetoric” or any shit like that from them. Antifa on the other hand uses fascist tactics. They go around attacking people with weapons to try to silence them. Not actual fascists either. They attack all kinds of people like the black Proud Boy that had to go to the hospital after getting cracked in the head with a baton. Too bad they end up getting their ass beat all the time. I love watching antifas getting their lights punched out. How come they seem to be dwindling? You never hear about them except in Portland these days.

  113. Rose
    Posted February 13, 2019 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if any of you taking smack past each other actually know anything about this school or the students or the events? None of you are even listening to each other or trying to see anything other then your emotions around race.

  114. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    [. . .]Please contact me if you have any questions about our commitment to promoting cultural proficiency and equity.

    Sincerely,
    Ms. Do
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Hello?

  115. John Brown
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    HW, nice job bringing the fake news thread full circle and demonstrating what we’re up against! Here’s the lowdown on that POS McInnes crew, the worst thing to come outta Canukastan since Nickleback.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

    Regarding Antifa, I don’t know any of them directly, but I’m looking for some angsty street brawling. I do however know an Army West Point Grad, a Navy Sgt at Arms, an Air Force AWACS navigator, an Army Airborne Small Arms Master Gunner Instructor, and a psychopathic State of Mich Corrections officer. And everyone of these grownups is willing to put their life on the line to keep our country from sliding further towards fascism. And any of you lurking libtards reading this had better start thinking in these terms too or we’re going to be fucked.

  116. John Brown
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    NOT looking for angsty brawling, obviously

  117. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Rose,

    I know some things and I want to know more. If you have some information please share.

  118. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Oh, I thought you were trying to get some balls for a second. Nope, just go back to smearing people. That’s all you have. What is it like to live like that? Trying to degrade people all the time because you can’t even come up with a decent rationalization for your behavior.

  119. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    I am just wondering if JB has a decent rationalization for his non-action. If someone really believes there is a fascist inevitability, then it would seem that any decent person would be on the front lines of trying to shut that kind of fascism down. It would be like if John Brown was a passenger on the Titanic, and he was the only one who knew that the ship was heading for an iceberg, and instead of taking useful action to protect the ship, or avoid the collision, he decided to spend his energy to raid the storage closet for warmer hats, gloves and mittens.

  120. EOS
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    @ Rose,

    Yes, I would be interested in hearing about the EDJI activities also. Have you seen the curriculum? What “social identities” were discussed? Are you a teacher at either of the schools or a parent? Do you have an email address for Ms Do?

  121. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    I heard that one of the activities involved a bunch of teachers making a big fruit salad for the children to eat. At first, I was worried some of the students, who are pickier eaters, would not like it, but I now know I was wrong after I saw the video, WiHi staff released, proving it was a good fruit salad.

    One kid did complain that he could taste his teachers fingers.

    Fuck that kid. Here is a video that explains it was in fact a yummy fruit salad:
    https://youtu.be/iRu1Yp2br00

  122. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 14, 2019 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I am going to assume the man in the middle is chef Wark Waynard until I have evidence otherwise.

  123. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 15, 2019 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    I am crossing my fingers that there will be no more snow days so Ms. Do will finally have the time to discuss the details of the implementation of the EDJI program. I don’t expect a response this afternoon, Saturday, Sunday or Monday because of mid-winter break. I of course would not expect someone to discuss the lesson plans for teaching equality, diversity, justice and inclusion on their days off from work. Unless they are ‘into’ that sort of discussion.

    E-D-J and I can wait.

  124. Ms. Don't
    Posted February 15, 2019 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    In the meantime, I’d be happy to answer any questions you may have for me.

  125. Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 15, 2019 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    I hope you are serious. My time is limited for the next couple of days. I think it would be great to learn more though. Here were my initial questions. If you can tackle any of them that would be great. I think other people had questions too. I like talking about this stuff!

    Frosted Flakes
    Posted February 11, 2019 at 5:11 pm | Permalink
    Oh man. It sounds like EDJI event was an awesome time for all.
    It is great that Ms. Do is so in touch with her students that she knows that they all experienced the lessons in a positive way. I want to hear more about it!
    1) Did kids write their privileges down on poster board?
    2) Did any teachers ask kids to give gifts to other kids?
    3) What is the “border control” simulation about? Sounds cool. Describe please.
    4) Can you provide this curious little online community with the actual lesson plans for the day?
    5) Instructions given to the kids?
    Just want to learn more about how exactly your school deals with these important issues!
    Go Wihi!
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    Posted February 12, 2019 at 8:32 am | Permalink
    I’m sure Ms. Do knows what I am talking about. Can we find out more about EDJI day Ms. Do so that we can see how your community addresses the pitfalls of exploring these subjects? I would really like to know what the lesson plans and activities consisted of. Why not share this information? What is “border control” simulation?
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    Posted February 13, 2019 at 7:46 am | Permalink
    SH,
    Good point EOS. We do not in any way know the source of the apparently fake facebook posts. It’s like Mark has never watched an episode of Columbo before. (Sorry Mark.)
    Outraged about what again? How can I be outraged? I have not been given much info about the EDJI Day at WiHi. It may have been a great learning experience for children. It also might have been a horribly implemented lesson, with good intentions, by a few teachers who once got an A on that critical race theory paper they wrote at EMU, for a professor, who “teaches” Marxism and post modern ideas, but doesn’t even understand Hegel’s logic, or much about history, or intellectual history, except in a superficial way.
    It is important to keep a watchful eye on the lessons our children are receiving, no? I am of the opinion that even if it was a poorly implemented lesson that good can come of it for all sides by taking a look at the lessons implemented and how they were received. And having a discussion about it. Do you have a problem with that?
    Does Mark or Ms. Do have a problem with discussing details? Why? We want to know more about the lessons implemented at their top performing school.
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