As Mueller pushes to revoke Manafort’s bail, Trump is coming unglued

Yesterday, the President’s attorney, Rudy Giuliani, speculated that, had he wanted to, Trump could have shot FBI Director James Comey to death instead of firing him, and not faced any legal consequences, at least so long as he stayed in office. Then, this morning, Trump took things a step further on Twitter, stating that, should he decide to do so, he could pardon himself of any crimes. “I have the absolute right to PARDON myself,” he wrote, before launching into a tirade about how “The appointment of the Special Counsel is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL!” As interesting and terrifying as all of that is, though, I’d like to focus right now on something he said prior to declaring himself above the law…

Oh, but first, here’s the best response to Trump’s “I can pardon myself” tweet that I’ve seen thus far. It comes from Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff.

Now, as for that tweet of Trump’s I’d like to focus on… it had to do with his former Campaign Director Paul Manafort… Here it is.

And the above tweet, I should add, came just after another tweet, which was also about Manafort. In that one, Trump asks, “(W)hy wouldn’t the FBI or Department of “Justice” have told me that they were secretly investigating Paul Manafort (on charges that were 10 years old and had been previously dropped) during my campaign? Should have told me!

Both of these tweets seemed odd to me at the time. In light of the news just breaking tonight, however, about how Mueller is seeking to revoke Paul Manafort’s bail, as the latter has apparently been caught engaging in witness tampering, having sent encrypted messages to associates in hopes of securing “false testimony”, it all kind of makes sense.

So it looks as though the net is tightening around Manafort, and Trump, knowing that this was happening, launched a two-pronged preemptive attack, claiming to both hardly know Manafort, and blaming the Department of Justice for not warning him that the chairman of his campaign was under surveillance for any number of crimes. Both, of course, are untrue. Trump was warned about Manafort, and he’d known years what kind of man he was.

Here are just a few points to consider when mulling over Trump’s suggestion that he and Manafort hardly knew one another… 1. Trump has known Manafort since 1980, when his mentor Roy Cohn introduced them. 2. Donald Trump was Paul Manafort’s first lobbying client in the early 1980s. 3. Manafort’s partner in that lobbying firm was Trump friend Roger Stone. 4. In 2006, Manafort purchased a Trump Tower apartment in an all-cash transaction. This, coincidentally, happened just after he signed a $10 million contract with Oleg Deripaska, a Putin-aligned Russian oligarch… So, no, it’s not true that Trump hardly knew him when he came onboard to run the campaign, as Trump has suggested. Trump has been friends with Paul Manafort for almost 40 years, and was well aware of the kind of work that he did for unsavory characters around the globe.

As for the claim that he hadn’t been warned about Manafort, here’s a little background by way of Talking Points Memo.

…In fact, as CNN pointed out, Trump was reportedly warned in August 2016 that foreign actors would attempt to infiltrate his campaign.

The Washington Post reported in April that Manafort had been interviewed twice by the FBI while working as a consultant for the pro-Russian Ukrainian ruler Viktor Yanukovych’s political party, in 2013 and 2014, respectively.

Trump’s attempt to minimize Manafort’s role echoes Sean Spicer’s statement in March of last year: the one-time campaign chairman “played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time,” Spicer said.

In reality, Manafort joined the campaign in March 2016 in order to oversee Trump’s Republican National Convention strategy, but his role quickly grew. In May, he was named campaign chairman. Former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, after his firing in June, said that Manafort “has been in operational control of the campaign since April 7.”

So, yeah, if I had to guess, I’d say that everything we’ve seen from Trump over the past day or so has been motivated by an intense fear on his part that Manafort, despite what mutual friend Roger Stone may tell him, might be getting ready to flip and start taking about how it was that, during the Republican National Convention, the Republican Party platform came to be rewritten to reflect the desires of Vladimir Putin, or, worse yet, the covert attempts to set up a secret backchannel communications link between Putin and Trump. And, I think, with Mueller pushing to revoke bail and put Manafort behind bars, we’re going see more of this from Trump. I think the insanity is just beginning.

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164 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 6:26 am | Permalink

    Manafort in jail is something that I’d like to see regardless of whether it causes him to turn against Trump. Some people deserve to be behind bars.

  2. M
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Watch this old video of Manafort answering a question on CBS about whether or not Trump has any ties to Russian oligarchs, and tell me something isn’t up.

    https://twitter.com/ErickFernandez/status/1003815780251774981

  3. M
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Trump can kill people in office and not face prosecution. He can, however, be impeached for his crimes and prosecuted afterward. But he can also pardon himself, thereby avoiding prosecution. If you put all of these pieces together, you have a situation where our president can kill anyone he likes without fear of retribution. All we can do, if Trump’s legal team is right, is remove him from office.

  4. Meta
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    The Atlantic: “in the middle of a scandal featuring collusion with the Russian state, it seems Manafort relied on an asset of Russian intelligence to abet a plot to tamper with a witness.”

    At the height of his powers as a political consultant, Paul Manafort was known for his cool. In fact, the value of his counsel increased at moments of crisis. While others panicked, Manafort rarely evinced a hint of frazzle. He could still think strategically, detach himself from emotion, and issue clearheaded guidance. But he could afford to keep his head at such moments, because the problems he was called on to solve belonged to others.

    Robert Mueller’s allegation that Manafort attempted to tamper with a witness permits us to peer inside Manafort’s mind as it has functioned in a very different set of circumstances. When it comes to Manafort’s own deep problems—his moment of legal peril—he seems unable to muster strategic thinking. He has shown himself capable of profoundly dunderheaded miscalculations.

    It’s hard to understand how he could have attempted the scheme described by Mueller in the midst of the highest-profile, most scrutinized criminal inquiry of the century. But that alone fails to capture the depths of his blundering.

    What Mueller recounted, in a new court document filed Monday night, is how Manafort attempted to contact members of the so-called Hapsburg Group earlier this year. Manafort had created the Hapsburg Group back in 2011. It comprised European politicians he’d recruited to help beautify the image of his authoritarian client Viktor Yanukovych, the president of Ukraine. It was a perilous moment for Yanukovych. He had brought his country to the brink of joining the European Union. But Yanukovych had jeopardized this momentous step by arresting his primary political opponent, Yulia Tymoshenko, in a fit of antidemocratic spite. The Hapsburg Group was sent to lobby against accusations of malfeasance.

    There was no public trace of Manafort’s work with the Hapsburg Group—how he funneled millions of euros to it, how he enlisted it to lobby without filing the required disclosure—at least not until Mueller first described it, in his February 23 indictment of Manafort. In the days following the indictment, Mueller says, Manafort relentlessly reached out to two members of a public-relations firm that helped him coordinate the Hapsburg Group—by phone, by email, by Telegraph, by WhatsApp. These alleged efforts were the basis for Mueller’s accusation that Manafort was tampering with a witness, attempting to coach testimony, which would have violated the terms of his bail.

    Of course, none of this should come as a surprise to Manafort. Each of Mueller’s new filings has further revealed the extent to which he is surveilling Manafort and his closest associates. A week before Manafort apparently attempted to tamper with the witness, Mueller stated plainly that he was watching their encrypted communication channels. And before that, Mueller showed that he was keeping tabs on Manafort’s email when he exposed an op-ed that Manafort had ghostwritten in his own defense, in violation of a judge’s gag order.

    If we look back on Robert Mueller’s strategy over the past few months, the special prosecutor seems to repeatedly signal to Manafort: Look, I know everything; you have no choice but cooperation. It’s a pattern that continues with this filing, the first instance in which Mueller has deployed material supplied by Manafort’s old alter ego, Rick Gates. When Gates agreed to cooperate with Mueller, he handed over a raft of emails. We can see in the exhibits that Mueller attached to this filing that Gates possesses a comprehensive archive of Manafort’s dealings, a blueprint of his operation. There will be no ellipses in the Manafort trial. Gates can fill all the gaps.

    There is another suggestive fact that Mueller posits in passing. Manafort’s witness-tampering scheme featured a co-conspirator. Mueller doesn’t name the accomplice, but his identity is not hard to discern from Mueller’s description. Manafort tried to contact his Hapsburg Group collaborators through his old Russo-Ukrainian aide, Konstantin Kilimnik.

    By any rational standard, Manafort should have long ago jettisoned his relationship with Kilimnik. On two separate occasions, Mueller has described Kilimnik as having “ties to Russian intelligence.” Put differently, in the middle of a scandal featuring collusion with the Russian state, Manafort seems to have relied on an asset of Russian intelligence to abet a plot to tamper with a witness. That’s hardly the work of a strategic genius.

    Read more:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/paul-manafort-loses-his-cool/562034/

  5. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    In other news, that all Dems seem to be ignoring, the CA top two primary process is fucked. There are so many Dems running they may split the vote with the primary going to the top two GOP candidates for seats.

    I know we love the idea of Trump going down, but Dems are consistently the most strategically idiotic party ever.

    Let’s hope it all works out in CA.

    PS I gave $50 to Hillary (and the same to Bernie) and now receive one or two rob calls from the DCCC every day. I have asked many times to be removed from their list and even went through the process online three times. To no avail.

    a friend suggested telling them I’d donate $5 to the GOP every time they call> Which I may need to fro. What are they thinking?

    Worst campaign strategy ever. I thought they had their hands in deep pockets? Why do they want my money? Or maybe, crazy talk, instead of sowing fear and ramping up pressure constantly re the threat to our democracy and urgent need to donate, etc etc, they could put forward a truly inspiring and inclusive and, you know, not racist message. The bar is really fucking low. C’mon DNC. You can clear it!

  6. M
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    The California primary system has me very much concerned. It could cost us three seats or more.

    I hate DCCC fundraising calls. I just hang up.

  7. M
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Two questions.

    1. Can Manafort be given a pardon prior to trial, or does he have to be convicted first?

    2. If he is given a federal pardon, can all of the government’s evidence then be immediately handed over to state courts for prosecution?

  8. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    The President can pardon a person for federal crimes before the person has even been indicted, before or during a trial (Nixon). However, a pardon implies guilt, so that if Trump, for example, pardons himself, he is effectively admitting guilt, thus ushering in an impeachment process.

  9. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Yes, but please remember that Mueller, always acfew chess moves ahead, brought In the NY State Attorney General on the investigation. As I understand it, the President can not pardon those convicted of State criminal charges. And so any state criminal fraud charges faced by Manafort or the president could be met with jail time.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but unless Trump lays very low, my guess is he’ll be doing Heim time for something before he dies. And I hope before I die. Or even my pop.

    Fuck that guy.

    Someday most of his supporters will realize they’ve been duped. It may take a while. ThAts one argument for letting this thing roll out slowly. Many people only learn through natural consequences. Let’s bury this tariff thing for a few generations.

    Hey HW you didn’t comment on all the sex workers protesting Trumps anti-sex trafficking legislation because it made them all less safe, pushed the power/control back into the hand of the mob and pimps/managers and did nothing to stop or prevent sex trafficking.

  10. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Jail not Heim which is the last name of a friend.**
    Autocorrect is ducked up.

  11. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    The President has no power to pardon anyone for anything other than federal crimes.

  12. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    “Hey HW you didn’t comment on all the sex workers protesting Trumps anti-sex trafficking legislation because it made them all less safe, pushed the power/control back into the hand of the mob and pimps/managers and did nothing to stop or prevent sex trafficking.”

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  13. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    You have proven yourself, over and over again, to be a very immature person, IL. You can do better than the garbage posts you choose to put out.

  14. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    “You have proven yourself, over and over again, to be a very immature person, IL. You can do better than the garbage posts you choose to put out.”

    Honestly, I find men’s rights, white rights and outright misogyny to be far more immature than I could ever be.

    Even the dankest of memes are more mature than rabidly defending a egotistical bigot and would be dictator like Donald Trump.

  15. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I have a problem with people (like Mr. Flakes) who defend white supremacists.

    It’s a failing of mine. I just want to ridicule them. I can’t help myself.

  16. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    “Hey HW you didn’t comment on all the sex workers protesting Trumps anti-sex trafficking legislation because it made them all less safe, pushed the power/control back into the hand of the mob and pimps/managers and did nothing to stop or prevent sex trafficking.”

    Probably because that is a bunch of bullshit. Backpage dude pled guilty to human trafficking. What do “all” the sex workers have to say about people being bought and sold like slaves?

  17. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    IL, Rather than trying to defend anyone here, I am trying to defend you from making yourself look like a fool. Why don’t you channel some of those morally superior feelings and some of your intelligence into attacking bigoted arguments when you come across them. I, for one, would applaud you for actually attacking lines of argument that are either outwardly bigoted or born out one of the attitudes of supremacy (white, male, straight, or otherwise).

    You really need to look in the mirror. You employ the logic of a bigot. It is not only “very immature” it is a dangerous logic to employ. What does it really even mean to say some person *is* a “supremacist”?

    Attack the actual be-ing of bigoted supremacy as it expresses itself in words and acts. Don’t attack the person.

    Be more mature. Be more human. You are falling short buddy, but I believe you can do better…

    (Sorry for the condescending tone but you are behaving ridiculously.)

  18. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    FF— are you in 7th grade? You sound like the middle school Do-gooder tattle tale with a promise ring and a pony tail. No grown ass person uses the word ‘immature’ except to refer to zoology. Ps tone policing— look it up. You have a problem with it.

    I find all this highly entertaining. IL is a jester of the first order. People can only be tweaked in their weak spots.

    This time had been an ear worm in my head all day after reading the first series of HW rants and replies. https://youtu.be/YrugYB7dPOA

  19. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Trump got one bad dude (who would have been busted eventually) and made the world a safer place for thousands more.

    He’s a real hero, HW.

    Do you think sex workers protested because they secretly love human trafficking?

  20. Jean Henry
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    This was good perspective. Not dissimilar from Marks summaries here. We’re lucky to be given such broad context.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/trump-russia-scandal-media/

  21. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    You have quite the sense of humor, Jean, if you think some of IL’s garbage is funny. Some of IL’s tactics are highly immature….Not adult at all. Not productive.

    Gross tone, grossly inaccurate content, coming from a gross place and toward a gross purpose.

    Look up “tone policing”? You are hilarious.

    We all get that IL is your buddy though.

    Whatever.

  22. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    There have been a shit ton of pimps arrested and children rescued during the Trump administration.

  23. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    FF rules!

  24. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    “Be more mature. Be more human. You are falling short buddy, but I believe you can do better…”

    I think voting for, offering apologies for, and actively stumping for white supremacy and white supremacists is inhuman and immature. The only reasonable response to it on the comments section of a blog is to ridicule it and the people who represent it.

    Sorry that you feel the need to stand up for misogynists, white supremacists and enablers of sexual predators.

    I almost forgot the last one. Truly ironic that the Mr. Warlord considers himself a champion of the oppressed while offering excuses for the oppressors.

    lol. 420 kush

  25. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtha3n7QvOk

  26. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    Anyone living in reality at all knows Iron Lung Larson is racist against white people. There is no way around it. Larson is racist. He has to cast Trump as racist to cover his own hatred for people the color of his family and self.

  27. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Pain 6/11

  28. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthur

    Ff— there’s a long literary and artistic tradition of both the gutteral and the grotesque in modern literature. Just think of IL’s posts as a barabaric yelp. If you were more ‘mature’ and ‘sophisticated’ you might understand his posts better.

    HW- I don’t know IL and have no idea who he is. We are not ‘buddies.’ Maybe you and FF are irl and you are projecting.

    Ps it’s a neat trick to turn a ritual sexual abuser into a savior of abused girls everywhere. And doing so by ignoring the voices of women is like hitting a triple word play score on sexism.

    I’m excited for 6/11. Please tell us precisely what you predict the result of the IOG report will be. Because McCane already got fired. You are certain there’s more. Please be specific in your predictions of how our world view will be forever altered on Monday, so we can reconcile your prophesy with the actual outcome.

  29. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    So many typos. I apologize for the word salad. I can’t scroll back on my phone to see what the damn thing decided to write.

  30. Frosted Flakes
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Haha Jean, very funny stuff.

    I think I will stick with my already expressed opinions though.

  31. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    “HW- I don’t know IL and have no idea who he is. We are not ‘buddies.’ Maybe you and FF are irl and you are projecting.”

    Why do you talk nonsense every day? Did I say you are “buddies”?

  32. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    “McCane [sic] already got fired.”

    Which you were completely wrong about. Say it: “Hyborian Warlord was correct. I eat my words.”

  33. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    Don’t you love words? Mmm, yummy words…

  34. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    (Trite) broken clock reference is your best bet. I even coach you on how to navigate your embarrassment! Here to help.

  35. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    HW I mixed your comments up with FF’s. Hard to distinguish anymore.

    I don’t remember making any predictions about McCabe. I may have. I do think his firing was wrong however.

    Have you ever been wrong HW. Remember the FISA memo was going to rock our worlds?

    Guess you got one right. If only because your guy is in power. Congrats. Big victory.

    See you on 6/11.

    https://youtu.be/6X7E2i0KMqM

  36. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    I quoted you on it a couple days ago! “Easy bet” you said. Now word is McCabe is going for an immunity deal ahead of the report.

  37. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    You don’t even know what you say. It isn’t the first time or the second.

  38. Jcp2
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    That word, racist, I don’t think it means what you think it means.

    http://www.debbyirving.com/qa/are-prejudice-bigotryand-racism-the-same-thing/

  39. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Now you need to get a little wackier but with enough emotion to appeal to the crowd with something like “OMG you are bringing up something I said MONTHS ago and don’t even remember back when NO ONE could have known..blah blah blah…your a fascist blah blah…”

  40. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    I was lost that bet about what would happen to McCabe.

    Ok, now your turn, HW. When have you ever been wrong when predicting the future?

  41. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    It is true that I don’t take my conversations with you seriously enough to remember what I say in them.

    Since you have a steel trap memory for such things (and clearly more interest) and are fond of prophesy, please tell us when you have been wrong?

    Thanks!

  42. Jcp2
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    https://medium.com/embrace-race/when-the-racist-is-someone-you-know-and-love-2933c7049182

  43. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Why don’t you tell me? I’ve made a lot of predictions and some have come true already. Some have yet to occur but has anything been false? Wobblie would have had to change his name if he took the bet. Good thing for you you weren’t willing to do it on my terms. You would have had to. Probably would have welched anyway!

  44. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    “It is true that I don’t take my conversations with you seriously enough to remember what I say in them.”

    Ahahahahahaha! Jean, you crack me up. Displaced embarrassment? An automatic little thing you do when you feel like a derp where you affect a snide condescendence.

  45. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    ” I’ve made a lot of predictions and some have come true already. Some have yet to occur but has anything been false?”

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  46. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    I told you all along all it is is paying attention. Any predictions I have made is based on analysis of information and events in the past and present. It’s not just out of nowhere.

  47. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    are based

    There should be an edit button active for only so long. Where is the media too? Pictures/gifs/vids would make it way better and drive traffic no doubt.

  48. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    That you are never wrong perfectly explains your ignorance, HW.

    https://www.ted.com/talks/kathryn_schulz_on_being_wrong/up-next

  49. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    I forgot I’m talking to someone who types lol at the word information.

  50. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:16 am | Permalink

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPUAQ6dTTLo

  51. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    “That you are never wrong perfectly explains your ignorance, HW.”

    Wait, you are saying I am never wrong? Because I never said that. I asked you to tell me something I predicted on the blog that turned out wrong. That’s very different. Pay attention to what people say and try not to blur it into what you want them to be saying. I don’t really make predictions in general. I think in terms of probabilities. If I “predicted” something here I was saying there is a high enough probability that I am confident to bet on it. I could be wrong. But have I been wrong here so far is what is relevant.

  52. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    ” If I “predicted” something here I was saying there is a high enough probability”

    Dude, get it HIGH enough, woooooooahhhhhh 420 kush dank vape churros edibles cbd Trump white obama men incel arpaio beaners gonna be so rich

  53. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    I don’t act like that so what you are doing is dogging out all the people who smoke or use Cannabis for medicine. Winning strategy there.

  54. nick
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    um actually, making fun of weed is *squints at notes* fighting white supremacy. it is a gateway drug to hate, conspiracy theories and deplorable ideologies.

  55. Jcp2
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Unlike JH and IL, I refuse to insult HW. I’m quite sympathetic to his position in life.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/the-war-on-stupid-people/485618/

  56. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Fallor ergo sum. — St Augustine

    HW’s mind is a vacuum of circular logic energized by puffed up egotism that masks painful insecurities and obsessiveness. Also paranoia. Shermhead symptoms for sure.

    Many of my closest friends use pot daily. None of them deny the possibility of problems with regular use. I believe it’s useful medicine for many. And fun for others. And some people are not suited and should steer clear. Like lots of other drugs.

    I don’t think HW is stupid or uninformed. I think he’s both twisted and far too convinced he’s right. Those two together are a toxic combo. See our president.

  57. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, ramble on about a bunch of bullshit. That’s how to do it.

  58. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Excellent retort HW.
    You are so superior to IL’s characterization of you.
    A worthy adversary for sure.

  59. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Learn to separate fact and opinion. You go around like your opinion is fact. It doesn’t need to be rebutted. I had to look up ‘sherm.’ Never heard of that. Oh yeah, that’s me. Weed dipped in PCP!

  60. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a tip HW. It will help you understand others better. Everybody states their opinions as facts. If I’m saying or writing something in my own voice, I do not have to say I think or i believe before each statement. It does require some discernment to separate statements of fact from opinion, but I expect most people can manage that one. The only reason to state ‘I beluev’ Or I think or IMHO as prefix is if one is gingerly tiptoeing through uncomfortable discourse. I’m not going to tiptoe with you. I don’t expect you to either.

    I speak with a degree of directness. I don’t equivocate or apologize before hand. Many women do, especially in the Midwest where many are conditioned to apologize before ordering a coffee. I deal that with that daily for years. I’m sorry if I don’t cowtow enough for your taste. I thought you were man enough to handle it. You have asserted your manliness many times in the past. Do confident women make you uncomfortable? Asking for a friend.

  61. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Ps Shermhead no longer refers to weed/pcp. It just means someone who smokes so much they don’t function as a regular person anymore. It’s someone who displays symptoms of excessive pot consumption— even when sober. It takes a lot lot lot of weed to get someone there, but it can happen. It’s always a little impressive when someone takes it that far. It’s not even addictive. You have to be super committed to being perpetually f’d up to get there.

  62. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Does Mark use RoboWriter software to produce this blog. I feel embarrassed that I believed he was really taking the time to write all this stuff himself.

  63. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    You act like opinions matter in reality though, Jean. It’s a fallacy you resort to when you look like a loser to the whole web due to being wrong.

  64. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    The relevance of your opinions is destroyed when you can’t come up with one prediction I have been wrong on. You have been wrong a lot. You ignore it and act like you didn’t say it then you babble about what you think of me.

  65. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    You don’t even know who I am and you constantly misrepresent what I say so how could you be a good judge? I know who you are. I remember you from when I went to the little shop that couldn’t decide if it was a bakery or a toy store. I noticed something was off in your interaction with me. Something was weird about that place or those people or just that one woman. It’s just one of the details in my life I paid attention to.

  66. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    If I was to state my opinion: how very correct I was.

  67. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Apparently, Hyborian Warlord’s robo-writing software is glitching now too. It just posted four responses in conversation with itself.

  68. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    If something was off innour interaction at my business, I’m pretty sure it was because I thought you were a creep, HW. Not everybody liked that joint, but many did. I’m still good friends with most of the staff and customers. There was a community standard set in that place of decent standards. If someone was being an ass, the others in line corrected them. I rarely had to. I’m proud to have run the kind of business that made dudes like you uneasy. My regulars and staff would back me up on that.

    As to why we did a little bit of everything, and it was a lot more than penny toys and pastry, that’s what little neighborhood places do to survive. We pulled more than half a million in business every year out of 1200 square feet in the middle of a neighborhood. And no one got ripped off. Our busiest day of our first year in business was 9-11-01 when other businesses were empty. People kept coming in—- I guess because it was a weird place that made people uncomfortable… I’m sorry you couldn’t quite understand why a corner store across from an elementary school would sell toys and coffee and pastries. You are clearly a genius about business as well as politics, like your hero.

  69. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Is this craigslist’s missed connections? I think we may have a love match. Who needs Tinder when we have MM.com?

  70. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Well I thought you were creepy as shit!

  71. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    It wasn’t anything overt that you did to indicate you didn’t like me or anything. It was a vibe I sensed right away.

  72. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Will you two just get a room already!

  73. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t craigslist go down for human trafficking? Haha – have you ever seen Jean Henry?

  74. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    I haven’t come out of my spider hole in years. Everybody seems super-attractive to me.

  75. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    You should ask her out to the abortion rally or something.

  76. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Well this is charming.

  77. iPhone
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I get the sense she wouldn’t have much free time. See seems to put a lot of hours in here.

    But my reluctance is more likely rooted in my fear of rejection. I’ve never asked a woman out in my life, as a matter of fact.

    I do like talkative, opinionated, and even crazy women though. Never a boring moment.

  78. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Mark’s blog-auto-management software seems to be blocking me from posting my intended response. I guess that’s its way of telling me I need to instead apologize and address the inappropriateness of my comments.

    We really should be focusing on the important issue here anyway…Mark’s blogging addiction. What are we going to do to help him?

  79. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    …fuckin’ Medusa and shit…

  80. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxZUwnugFic

  81. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Listening to that and watching this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X7W-oPhY48

  82. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Medusa is my favorite.

    Just to be clear, gentlemen, comments about a woman’s appearance are not relevant to discourse about subjects other than her appearance. That you imagine this is a matter of either relevance or concern only reaffirms my earlier ‘opinions’ about HW.

    I know this may come as a shock to you both, but my interest in attracting either of you is far below zero. I’m quite happy if you feel aversion to the very sight of me. If we ever meet again, I hope I growl.

  83. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Magoo no doubt with some of that good shit I was talking about. Good to go Magoo haha! I know this is one of his top priorities.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/north-fulton-county/metro-sex-trafficking-sting-rescues-nearly-160-children-authorities-say/764243882

  84. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    I’m looking off the shield reflection if I get anywhere near!

  85. Sad
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Even returning to a discussion of McDonalds at this point would be elevating the discourse.

    I heard they’re using fresh meat for the quarter pounder now.

  86. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    https://trib.al/OQZk3XV

  87. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    iRobert—
    MM’s site will automatically hold comments of ‘new ‘ users for moderator approval. You posted as iPhone not iRobert.
    No judgment.
    I’ve done similar things.
    MM did post a bunch recently but he often seems less interested in this blog than us.
    I don’t know why I’m here in this clown car with all of you.
    Boredom and restlessness I guess.
    Rarely worth the time.

  88. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Oh, I see now. My autocorrect changed my name to iPhone and that held up approval of my post.

    Jean, I don’t need to be reminded it’s inappropriate to discuss a woman’s appearance. I’ve never met you, wouldn’t know anything about your appearance, and therefore have never said a word about it. I have, however, suggested in the past that you are a dangerous, violent, thuggish person who is best to avoid. I continue to stand by that assessment.

  89. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Since FF and Sad believe that civilized discussion is possible with HW, I suggest you all take it from here. Go for it. Please model for us how discourse could be more mature and civilized with Mr Warlord.

  90. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    IRobert— I’m cool with that perception on your part as you are pretty insufferable yourself as I recall.

    I included you in my comments because you seemed to think it acceptable to speculate on my datability in reply to HW. Same difference.

    Try for just a moment to imagine how odd it would be for you if someone you don’t know disrupted an online discussion about politics or anything really to start talking about your appearance or datability.

    It’s fucking weird. Don’t do it. It was better when you thought I was a dude.

  91. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    I am relieved to hear that Mark is making some progress in dealing with his problem, Jean. And I agree with you; as horrible as this blog is, I’m sure it would be a lot worse if Mark actually paid any attention to it. We really should be grateful.

  92. iRobert
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    I always thought you were a French guy, Jean.

    I still don’t really have any reason not to continue thinking that. I don’t trust any of the other commenters here who have suggested otherwise.

    Please don’t be offended by my characterizations of you. It might help to know that as horrible as my impressions are of you, I think so much worse of Mark. Your takeover of this blog has been a significant improvement over what we were suffering through here just a few years ago.

  93. Jean Henry
    Posted June 6, 2018 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    IRobert— why do you spend time on a blog you don’t like?

    I know I spend a lot of time here but I’m not really elsewhere on social media other than fb. I’m a regular. Same with restaurants. I’m weirdly loyal or just boring. I still read the same papers everyday as when I was in college.

    So why are you here if you hate it. I have my issues with some of mark’s angle on some things (which seems normal) but I think he does a good job on many levels and shows commitment. That new Weinstein piece is good. Maybe check it out.

  94. iRobert
    Posted June 7, 2018 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    I’m here sort of as a protest. Sure, ignoring this heap of internet garbage seems like the sensible reaction. But I want to draw attention to this travesty. I want people to see what is going on in the head of this Mark Maynard character. I worry he might be governor one day, and then we’ll all be sorry.

    People don’t realize there are guys who still think like this guy. I’m certain there are many more like him in fact. The only difference is that they are just smart enough not to openly express the sorts of thoughts and ideas Mark does here. This needs to be stamped out! I will not rest until Mark Maynard, and everyone like him is defeated.

    I appreciate the work you’ve been doing toward that goal as well.

  95. Jean Henry
    Posted June 7, 2018 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Ah, I see. An attempt at satire. Well I guess that’s clarifying????

  96. iRobert
    Posted June 7, 2018 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    …and like you said, “attempt” at satire. I admit, I’ve failed miserably.

    I did seem to drive all the other commenters away though. There’s something to be said for that, anyway.

  97. stupid hick
    Posted June 7, 2018 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    My original reason for coming here was to provoke Mark at every opportunity and to make unflattering comments about his appearance. Now I have no idea what I’m doing here. Not enough Ypsi, too much Trump.

  98. Jean Henry
    Posted June 7, 2018 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Would you like to date him or speculate on what that would be like, Stupid Hick?

    If you want more Ypsi, start your own blog.

  99. Posted June 7, 2018 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a recent photo of me. I’ve got a pretty big gut, my wrinkles are getting deeper, and I’m squinting more, as my eyes are going. Have fun, Mr. Hick.

  100. Jcp2
    Posted June 7, 2018 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    I see you’ve grown a beard, Garrison.

  101. stupid hick
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    If only I had a Jean Henry doll upon which to paste a photo of Mark’s face. Then I might be able to imagine the perfect date. Ok, I almost didn’t respond but there must be something wrong with me.

  102. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    You’re that thing on the right?

    Is that Jean you’re with?

    I appreciate you wearing my likeness on your t-shirt. I didn’t realize you were a fan.

  103. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    I am still struck to learn that supporting white supremacists, spreading propaganda for would be dictators, calling women “dumb bitches” and taking the ridiculous position that “white men have right, too” (as to say that calling for the rights of women and minorities somehow diminishes the rights of white men) is considered “mature” whereas ridiculing such demented people is “immature.”

    I would posit that Mr. Flakes believes that there were “good people on both sides” of the Charlottesville protests, recently. I would suspect that Mr. Flakes might even go so far as to argue that there are “good people” in the KKK or even fine National Socialists.

    Mr. Flakes appears to be just that, a flake. He appears too sheepish to actually come out against true injustice because it would require too much work on his part, so he comes out against those who find racism, misogyny and authoritarianism reprehensible.

    It is people like Mr. Flake who enable dictatorships and genocides, people who are relatively literate who willingly allow power to fester and say nothing until it is too late and then deny culpability when it is. People like the Mr. Warlord are simple pawns, too dense, drunk or high to realize what’s going on. The Flakes of the world are the ones who do the real damage, however.

  104. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    Oh, wait. I see. That’s a Trump T-Shirt. I was confused. I have that same toupee.

  105. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    What a piece of shit you are, Larson. You think white men should have no rights? What is wrong with you? Let alone that other bullshit you said.

  106. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    You say other people are sexist and racist but in the same breath you prove that is you.

  107. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Mark, you look sort of like Clark Kent…

    ….if instead of super-powers he had a substance abuse problem.

  108. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    “It is people like Mr. Flake who enable dictatorships and genocides”

    Mental illness on display here; something seriously wrong.

  109. stupid hick
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    Does anyone else here think it’s funny that HW is chronically unable to recognize whose mental illness is on display here?

  110. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    How exactly? You think FF enables dictatorships and genocide?!

  111. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    People! People! Don’t you realize who the real enemy is here? It’s Mark!

    You’d all be living normal productive lives if it weren’t for this blog.

  112. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Or people like him? I mean if you want to take it to that level then I think we are all the kind of people who enable dictatorships and genocide. We all pay taxes to the government, CIA is part of government, CIA has supported dictatorships and genocides…It’s under duress (prison if you don’t pay) but if we are not demanding an end to CIA support for dictators then it’s tacit approval.

  113. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Well maybe “productive” is too hopeful.

    “Normal” is probably too.

    Now that I think about it, “living” and “lives” might be the wrong words also.

  114. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    I don’t know about anyone else but I’ve been busting my ass for months. Haven’t had time to post on this cesspit of a blog for a while. Why post on one of the worst blogs around? I like exposing it for what it is. They just evaporate when they can’t answer, then they come back later with random bullshit attack acting like it never happened.

  115. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    with “a” random bullshit attack

  116. Jcp2
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I’m not sure random is the appropriate term. It’s pretty focused on the same issues pertaining to the same opinions offered under the same anonymous identifier.

  117. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    There is a bullshit personal attack repertoire they come back with but it has nothing to do with the issue they ghosted on.

  118. Hyperian Warlock
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    I confirm my cousin and I have no time for this nonsense. We’ve been busting our asses collecting bottles and cans to supplement the SSI disability checks he gets for schizophrenia and erectile disfunction. Obama’s fault.

  119. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Just mindless bullshit like I said.

  120. Jean Henry
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    It’s too bad HW & FF & iR were too busy being productive to weigh in on Jordan Peterson a week or so ago.

    Mark– While I appreciate the diversion of your solicitation of commentary on your own appearance and datability, I dont think it’s fair substitution. I’m sure it doesn’t bother you much to be assessed based on appearance because that’s not how your value is assessed daily, no matter context. When dealing with commenters who regularly express their fear of feminism and social justice movements and their concern for the neglect of white men’s rights, my commentary was not one of sensitivity but of pointing up a persistent double standard. Your comment and solicitation pretty much denies that double standard exists. It implies not legitimate complaint on my part, but acute sensitivity.

    I’m a feminist. I don’t expect men to get it. And that perspective is regularly validated. I’m going to keep offering that particular perspective however. Cant make things worse.

  121. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    I am well-acquainted with feminist and SJW issues. Not afraid. I’m sure. I have no respect for people like you who use racism and misandry as a weapon, then blame your target. I don’t hate or fear any particular group but you do, don’t you?

  122. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    See, that’s your opinion about me (that you can’t back up) but I can characterize you based on fact. You think rape victims should be disbelieved if they are raped by a Democrat. You cast shade on all Bill Clinton’s abuse victims. No respect for fake feminists.

  123. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    No respect for racist anti-racists either. If you hate people or discriminate against people because of their race you are racist. If you think certain groups can’t be racist or some are inherently racist then that is racist itself. Don’t be racist, don’t be sexist but definitely don’t be that and call other people who aren’t racist racist. That’s the worst. When you do it and try to blame someone else for it.

  124. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Jean, I don’t think Mark’s post had anything to do with you. I believe Mark simply read Stupid Hick’s comment and responded to it. Stupid Hick said he initially came to this blog to provoke and insult Mark, as I believe has been the motivation for many of us. Mark just figured the best response would be to paint a target on himself and let us take our best shots. I was hoping you’d join in and deliver some devistating blows to his enormous ego. You’re squandering a great opportunity.

  125. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    For example, Jean, you could have made the observation that Mark looks like a perpetually constipated Rip Van Winkle

  126. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    …or if instead of Tom Hanks, Burl Ives were cast as Forest Gump.

  127. Sad
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Judging people on their looks is so last century.

    Even Miss America is doing away with the swimsuit competition. Hopefully models will stop wearing fancy clothes and athletes will quit playing ball. Fight the power!

    I though MM was just showing that there’s no curtain.

    I read a few reviews of James Franco’s new movie and everything might not be OK.

  128. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t think Mark posted that photo to show that there’s no curtain so much as he was showing how inportant curtains are.

  129. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    I mean, he looks like a research professor, unable to find any volunteers, so has been experimenting on himself for 30 years.

  130. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    When Mark posted this photo on Facebook, the face recognition software identified two faces in the picture; the one on his T-shirt, and the other standing to Mark’s right with the 8+ eyes. That had to hurt.

  131. stupid hick
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    “How exactly? You think FF …”

    You dolt, I’m talking about you!

  132. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    I mean, he’s even had to stop going to Disney World. He can’t enjoy it being continuously mobbed by children hugging him and families wanting to get photos with him. I telling you, this guy’s got it rough.

  133. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    He looks like a Manatee in a Drew Carey mask.

  134. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    It’s like he made the mistake of looking directly into the eyes of Medusa. But instead of Mark turning to stone, Medusa turned into a pile of cheeseburgers.

  135. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    What I’m trying to say is that if the three faces in the photo Mark posted were entered into a beauty contest, one would have to get disqualified for Mark to have any chance of making runner-up.

  136. iRobert
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    But as bad as it looks, you can’t criticize his fashion sense. At first glance, the grotesque “They Live” Trump graphic on his t-shirt draws the eye in and sets a low bar. That was good strategy.

  137. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Stupid: You were talking about FF in your own post so who is the dolt for real?

    “It is people like Mr. Flake who enable dictatorships and genocides”

  138. Sad
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Senator Flake has been nothing but honorable throughout this whole debacle. He has stood up to Trump if anything.

  139. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Not a Stupid Hick comment I see. I asked you how you think I am mentally ill and how it is not mentally ill to say what IL said. Your answer sets the whole thing back. You people are so far behind you don’t get it that some people are running circles around you.

  140. Sad
    Posted June 8, 2018 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    It’s a circle game?
    https://youtu.be/V9VoLCO-d6U

  141. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    Haven’t we all learned that intelligent, logical, productive conversation has been rendered impossible in our culture? At this point, we really should just be sharing our ideas as to how we each plan to spend our time and energy during this cultural and social collapse.

    What does this back and forth in the comments section here accomplish? What is the goal?

  142. Sad
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    Goals are for losers!

  143. Jean Henry
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Sad– Were you around for FF’s heart felt defense of White Supremacists and condemnation of Antifa after Charlottesville? I don’t think so. Going back to those articles, may help you understand some of the tension.

  144. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    I wonder if Frosted Flakes was at least in part deliberately just trying to provoke you and the others, Jean.

  145. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    But Jean is probably right, criticising Mark’s physical appearance is wrong. Besides, his looks are the least of his problems.

    Seriously, have you ever met him? A group of us once scheduled a meeting with him to discuss community matters. He was only 5 minutes late. We waited another half hour for his personality to show up. Finally we just gave up and went home.

  146. Iron Lung 2
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    I have reviewed the transcripts. This is likely not the case.

    Mr. Flakes and the Mr. Warlord both would likely both blame Jews for “provoking” the National Socialists into building concentration camps. In previous post, neither were overly concerned about the Unite the Right rally, instead choosing to focus on the groups which arrived to protest racism and ethnic cleansing, despite mealy mouthed disclaimers to the effect of “I’m not racist.”

    Sad.

    And certainly immature.

  147. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    What I’m saying is, the guy’s dull.

    I once saw him in a casino, playing solitaire.

  148. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    …and he won’t take responsibility for anything. He even started doing a radio show, so for any interaction anyone had with him they could only blame themselves.

    Really, that’s how he thinks.

  149. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    When he was a kid, his parents used to have to strap a steak to him to get the dog to play with him.

  150. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Tony Robbins met him once.

    Told him to “give up!”

  151. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Nobody wants to deal with him.

    In the dictionary, next to the word “Dull,” it says “Go find your own picture of Mark Maynard.”

    It’s embarrassing.

  152. Sad
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I think IRobert is upset you didn’t mention his vaudeville routine in the Weinstein piece.

  153. Jean Henry
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Ok, Sad. That was funny.
    Begrudging points in your column.

    iRobert on the other hand can rant on for 20 posts and not make me laugh. It’s not that I’m humorless; he’s just not funny.

    Humor needs to in some way reflect the truth to amuse and come off as something more than attention-seeking behavior.

  154. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    I understand why you don’t find my comments funny, Jean. You’ve revealed a lot about yourself in your extensive writings here.

  155. iRobert
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    …plus, you have to be drunk to enjoy my humor.

    This is a tough crowd here on MarkMaynard.com A room-full of messed-up drunks is a way more receptive environment. Typing this crap on a blog doesn’t really work, because a lot of the humor is in the delivery. I’m sure you know that, being the expert in the study of comedy that you are.

  156. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    “FF’s heart felt defense of White Supremacists and condemnation of Antifa after Charlottesville”

    Bull shit.

    “Mr. Flakes and the Mr. Warlord both would likely both blame Jews for “provoking” the National Socialists into building concentration camps.”

    Bull fucking shit. I consider it an extreme offense for you to say something like this. You love being the biggest piece of shit you can be, don’t you? You are a wannabe version of the people who tried framing the president. You intentionally misrepresent what people say to use it as a weapon.

  157. Sad
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    IL and HW are like President Trump and Kim Jong-un.

    Will they eventually make peace?

  158. Jean Henry
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    iRobert and Sad— Not everyone is meant to get along. There’s nothing at all wrong with that.

    But then, I prefer variety and difference to homogeneity and cohesion. As iRobert can no doubt confirm from his study of my extensive writings on this blog.

  159. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    You prefer making up a bunch of shit and directing it at someone who is nothing like what you say. It’s all coming back at you. I told you you are going to eat everything you ever said. It is happening more and more every day now. Think: an avalanche of justice…

    Comey
    McCabe
    Lynch
    Yates
    Holder
    Clinton
    Obama
    Clapper
    Brennan
    Strzok
    Page
    Wasserman-Schultz
    Awan
    Etc.

  160. Jean Henry
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Awesome HW. You just showed your entire hand. Let’s talk again after the IOG report. If you are wrong, I hope you will show a bit of humility here in the future. It would make all of this much more palatable.

  161. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    All in good time, Jean Henry. Next week’s report is only one part of the investigation. What did I say? A series of increasingly devastating hits on the deep state.

  162. Jean Henry
    Posted June 9, 2018 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    I’m very patient.

  163. Hyborian Warlord
    Posted June 10, 2018 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    Very wrong too. That goes for all you swampsuckers. You’ve been wrong on everything so far. Flynn was railroaded; McCabe is in trouble for it. Obama spied. Nothing has led to Trump collusion. None of all those different little angles like Papadopolous, Manafort and FBI spy Carter Page have led to SHIT about Trump. I could go on and on. The economy, North Korea, ISIS, human trafficking…I tell the truth and you try to make me seem crazy. You find yourself able to do it less and less now. I expect the paroxysms of people like you and Iron Lung will get even more extreme as it unfolds the way I said. Problem is the more you try to vilify me as things get better the more obvious it will be to everyone you are full of shit. Even you will have to admit it.

  164. stupid hick
    Posted June 10, 2018 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    “iRobert on the other hand can rant on for 20 posts and not make me laugh.”.

    I thought the first few were pretty good, up through the bit about having the same toupee. Don’t let Jean’s disapproval discourage you.

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