You write the “Fucking White People” post

I need some time away from the world right now, so I’m going to walk across the room with my chicken pot pie in a couple minutes, settle down on the couch with my family, and watch My Man Godfrey. I suspect I’ll return to blogging at some point in the not too distant future, but I just can’t bring myself to do it right now. On the off chance that I might decide to never come back, though, you might want to start honing your own writing skills, so that, if you had to, you could entertain yourself in my absence. So, with that in mind, I’ve got an exercise for you… Below, you will find one image, and about half a dozen quotes. Please use them together to create a post that is not only poignant and thought provoking, but also both somewhat irreverent, all while being mildly humorous… Are you ready?

Here’s the image. It’s taken from the Twitter account of former KKK leader David Duke.

davidduke

And here are the quotes you have to work with.

Bloomberg: “Trump was able to pull out tight victories in many swing states largely on his strength, and Clinton’s weakness, among white voters. Trump beat Clinton 62 to 33 in counties that are at least 85 percent white.”

The Guardian: “White voters, who make up 69% of the total, voted 58% for Trump and 37% for Clinton. Non-white voters, who make up 31% of the electorate, voted 74% for Clinton and 21% for Trump. White men opted 63% for Trump and 31% for Clinton; white women voted 53% for Trump and 43% for Clinton. Among non-college-educated whites, 67% voted for Trump – 72% of men and 62% of women.”

Pew Research: “In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980.”

Neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin: “Our Glorious Leader has ascended to God Emperor. Make no mistake about it: we did this. If it were not for us, it wouldn’t have been possible… The White race is back in the game. And if we’re playing, no one can beat us. The winning is not going to stop.”

FiveThirtyEight.com: “Trump’s margin among evangelical white Christians is 81-16 percent, according to exit poll results.”

Patheos: “According to national exit polling, a larger percentage of evangelicals backed Trump then backed Mitt Romney, John McCain, or George W. Bush, the GOP candidates in the past three elections. As for women, more than 75% of white evangelical women voted for Trump, according to the exit polls.”

Vice: “Based on this data, across the board, white people of nearly all ages, genders, and education levels chose Trump. The only exception: college-educated white women.”

Washington Post: “The loss of manufacturing, and the economic power that goes with it, also resulted in demographic changes that made the Rust Belt states more inviting territory for Trump. Michiganders call the 2000s the “Lost Decade.” During those years, Michigan lost half its automaking jobs and fell to 35th in per capita income among states. It hemorrhaged residents, with many using their college degrees as tickets out: Michigan is 34th in proportion of college graduates. No one is moving in to replace them: Only Louisiana has a higher percentage of native-born residents. As Michigan has become older, less educated, less unionized, less urbanized and more insular, it has become more reactionary. The brain drain from the old factory towns to the big cities contributed to Trump’s victory in the electoral college. He narrowly won the Rust Belt states, while Clinton posted a commanding victory in Illinois. The only industrial Midwestern state she won, it’s home to tens of thousands of young Michiganders, Wisconsinites, Ohioans and Pennsylvanians who fled their home towns for Chicago, the region’s cultural and financial capital, a city that’s winning in the 21st-century global economy at the expense of surrounding states. Had those college graduates found opportunities at home, they might have flipped their states to Clinton.”

KKK leader Thomas Robb: “America’s white voting majority, men and women, have spoken by electing Donald J. Trump to the presidency. They have recognized that this was a last chance election.”

So, do you have what it takes to be a professional blogger? Now’s your chance to find out.

update: I didn’t think it was necessary, but, given the reaction I’m seeing online, I’d like to point out that, yes, a lot of white people are great. In fact, some of my best friends are white people. SO, by posting this, my intention wasn’t to say that all white people were racists. As I’ve said here in the past, I know that many Trump supporters are decent people, who didn’t see this election as a referendum on white supremacy. A good number of them, I’m sure, may have even voted for Barack Obama in 2012. With that said, however, I think it’s worth noting that, for whatever reason, the white male vote, especially the non-college educated white male vote, consolidated around Trump. Yes, the white supremacists may be overplaying the extent to which white nationalism played a role, but it’s hard to deny that much of Trump’s support stemmed from the fact that he promised to take America back to a time when it was “truly great,” when, coincidentally, white men ran everything, and there was no talk of diversity and inclusion.

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72 Comments

  1. stupid hick
    Posted November 9, 2016 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    How timely. I’ve decided to go on hiatus too. I might come back someday. If I do, it will probably only be to troll Mark. Maybe under a different screen name.

  2. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    The level of violence in this country will increase overall as a result of this win.

    I am quite worried.

  3. Sylvie
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    May I share this on Facebook?

  4. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    I understand your despair. I experienced the same feelings during the past two presidential elections after Obama was elected. It is especially disheartening for ideologues when their agenda is voted down.

    I think the difference in this election is that Christians mobilized, prayed, and voted. The pollsters discounted their numbers because more than 50% sat on the sidelines and didn’t vote in past elections. I stood at the Capitol in Lansing in October and prayed with Franklin Graham and more than 9,000 others. Graham prayed at every state capitol in the nation. Another 100 or so groups led national prayer events. There were conference calls across the nation where people prayed for hours. There were simulcasts in Theaters across the nation where people of all denominations prayed and worshipped. There were large numbers of people who prayed and fasted for long periods. And there were small groups of believers across our land praying fervently for the election.

    And we didn’t pray that Trump would be elected. We asked for God’s forgiveness and mercy. We need His forgiveness for allowing our government to actively support an ungodly agenda. To forgive us for 59 million slaughtered in the womb. To forgive us for Gay marriage. To forgive us for allowing acts of faith to be criminalized. To forgive us for our lack of involvement. To preserve our freedoms.

    And we prayed for corruption to be exposed. We prayed that anyone trying to commit voter fraud would be caught. And we prayed for Christians to be motivated to vote for persons and platforms that reflect Biblical values. We prayed for God to change the hearts of leaders to be willing to promote Biblical values.

    And God answered our prayers. The vote was sufficient to not only win this time, but we would have won the last two times as well if we had the same turnout. And we are grateful and will stay involved and keep praying. We are praying that God would give Trump wisdom to govern justly, to select honest leaders to appoint to cabinet positions, and to protect him from all unjust attacks.

    And you are all welcome to join us in praying for a better future with opportunities for everyone. Pray for world peace and domestic tranquility. Pray for racial reconciliation. Pray for revival and an outpouring of the Spirit. He can heal our land.

  5. Posted November 10, 2016 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    Sure, Sylvie. Feel free to share anything at all that I post on this site. It’s yours to do with as you like.

  6. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Please pray to God to take you away from here for good.

  7. Anonymous
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    David Duke also said the following on Facebook after the election:

    “You parasites should literally be beyond thankful Donald J. Trump defeated your rigged system – he pulled off the most amazing victory in this nation’s history -> you should be celebrating, seriously.

    Unlike what it could’ve been, had he loss – Trump actually has some weird type of compassion for you filth and will more than likely allow some of you to still operate -> much like Putin does in Russia – but guess what? You arrogant, unthankful, degenerate pieces of shit no longer have absolute power – appreciate the influence Trump allows you to have in this great nation, try and be thankful for once -> because I can assure you, things could be A LOT worse.”

  8. Demetrius
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Maybe we could begin by dropping the “Fucking White People” posturing.

    Obviously, millions of those “fucking white people,” just voted in massive numbers for a deeply flawed and frighteningly-unprepared candidate for president. I have no doubt some did so because they are racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, or just generally hateful – but I suspect many more did so because they feel alienated, disrespected, and genuinely fear for their own future and the future of their families.

    I know everyone is still in shock over the election results and many are still licking their wounds – but we all (on both sides) really need to begin moving beyond all this divisive thinking and rhetoric: “fucking white people,” “BLM thugs,” “lock HER up!,” “wounded men,” etc.

    In the long run – if we are serious about resisting Trump, and building a cohesive movement capable of opposing the worst excesses of the incoming regime – we need to focus on *expanding* the pool of people we think of as potential allies, not shrinking it.

  9. Meta
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Alex Jones was happy too. He said this was better than fucking an attractive high school student.

    Jones and his website, Infowars, spent the days before the election posting articles with headlines like “Hillary ‘Regularly’ Attended Witch’s Church” and subheadlines like “Hillary linked to child sex ring, emails suggest.”

    But on Tuesday night, by 11 p.m., flanked by Trump political operative Roger Stone on his webcast, Jones and his fellow alt-right leaders were claiming total victory.

    “For me, it’s better ecstasy than bagging the prom queen. It’s so ethereal I can’t believe that Trump is tuned into reality,” he said. “Trump’s tuned into America. His sons are tuned into America. They’re retweeting us every day.”

    Read more:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/alt-right-declares-total-victory-we-re-the-establishment-now.html

  10. Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    You’re absolutely right, Demetrius. My “Fucking White People” headline is divisive. I was, and still am, angry. It will pass. Just be patient with me. Right now, though, I feel like I have to vent a bit.

  11. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    As far as I’m concerned, it’s all out war.

    Fuck Trump and all the people who voted for him.

    I could care fucking less anymore.

  12. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    There are at least two people here who voted for him.

    I hope they fucking suffer.

  13. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I choose not to post under the FWP heading, but you are right, this place is more relevant.

    I hope you don’t stop blogging. Your blog is the best information available, anywhere, on local Ypsilanti politics and events. And it is good for everyone to not live inside a bubble or echo chamber where you might come to think everybody in the world shares your views. I appreciate knowing the concerns of my neighbors even when I might sometimes disagree.

  14. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    You want to install cameras to watch your neighbors and have curfews to keep them inside at night.

  15. Thom Elliott
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    1st just scrolling past any comments from EOS, actively don’t care what you think

  16. Jason Kosnoski
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Mark,

    You could also have “fucking Detroit and fucking Flint” because if people in those cities turned out like they did in 2012 (the African American vote was way down across the country) then Clinton would have lost. Many people are talking like there was only one person running–Trump. But it’s hard to say that the white people who voted for Obama and then Trump are unreachable racists, although they certainly abetted racism with their vote this time.

    Two important graphs:

    Look first at Monroe County, a mid-size county of about 150,000 and home to DTE’s largest coal electric generator, several large manufacturers and thousands of acres of farmland. Nearly 92 percent of the population is white. It had voted for the Republican presidential nominee in 2000 and 2004, but switched to Obama in 2008 and 2012. In these four previous elections, the victor in Monroe won by no more than 3,300 votes (Obama in 2008). On Tuesday, Trump took 16,400 more votes than Clinton.”

    Three huge counties with the largest minority populations, Wayne, Saginaw and Genesee, suffered the biggest drop in turnout, down between 4 and 6 percent. Clinton got 119,000 fewer votes in those counties than Obama did in 2012; Trump got 26,000 more votes than Romney in those counties.

    http://bridgemi.com/2016/11/rural-white-michigan-thumbs-nose-at-clinton-backs-trump/

    There is a time for anger, which is now, but later, and soon, there needs to be a time for politics and analysis concerning what a disaster as a candidate Clinton was and what a disaster her form of pro-corporate DLC centerist “liberalism.” This is a good piece on where to go next.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/trump-victory-clinton-sanders-democratic-party/

  17. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Let it go Loser. Your misinterpretation does not create a truth, regardless of the many times you repeat it.

  18. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    You said it.

    Cameras.
    Curfews.
    Police crackdowns free of accusations of racial bias.

    All there. Never going to let it go.

  19. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    Let’s also not forget that EOS would also like government funded gay conversion therapy.

    And thinks the world is 6,000 years, which is more a testament to utter stupidity than bigotry.

  20. Thom Elliott
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    White Americans: You’re Fucked. You thought giving control of the entire US government to vulgar self-consciously fascist culturally misanthropic white supremacists will work to #MAGA you will quickly find out your aliterate white power fantesy is just that. As soon as this aliterate human trash’s inauguration more than 100 pending lawsuits will swamp your pathetic god emperor, including official impeachment for being a ponzi-scheme operating shiteating charlatan that you fucking knew he was, but didn’t give a shit, because you wanted to taste black lesbian tears and revel in school children openly harassing children of color. Well mark my words garbage, you have been successful in sharpening the contradictions which you will be impaled on. Get ready for total hate, that’s all you fuckscum will get

  21. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    Right wingers love to talk about what confrontational assholes non-right wingers are.

    I think we are going to need to turn it up. The next four years should just be a barrage of unapologetic written and verbal abuse against every single person who voted for that clown, or even considered it.

    Trump ran on a platform of violence and exclusion. If you voted for Trump, you advocate for violence of the worst order. You may not think you are a bigot, but you put one in office, willingly. You may think that sexual assault is repulsive, but you put a guy who, if he didn’t have as much money as he does, would be a registered sex offender.

    The only way to deal with that is to fight.. Let them know what kind of people they really are.

  22. Thom Elliott
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Also surely many local people who represent certain ideological motivations who organized against HRC are responsible. You thought it would be a fun time to show your worthless liberal purity by actively organizing against HRC so that Trump would win. You are just as guilty for electing this human trash as Trumpists. Everything that happens to gays, environmental regulations, women, reproductive rights etc in the coming cultural apocalypse, you are responsible for just as much as your Trumpist brethren. There was no difference between organizing for Trump or any fucking #bernieorbust bullshit or third party. This was not the election for your entitled protest vote, and now we got what you wanted, fascism. Thanks

  23. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Maybe EOS will get her cameras, curfews and free police beatings of minorities after all.

    This will be a great moment for her.

  24. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    Readers can check out the posts for themselves and verify your lies. You have progressed from depression, to aggression, and are now delusional. Maybe time to seek professional help?

  25. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    I posted them two days ago. They can read them.

    Would you like me to post them again?

  26. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    No, just link to the whole discussion so that everyone can read them in context- especially the clarification I wrote immediately after.

  27. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    You made this cute and insincere attempt to walk back from it later, but everyone knew what you meant the first time around.

  28. Lynne
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    All those downtrodden white people who voted for Trump because they feel disrespected and that their way of life is ending? Fuuuuuuuuuuck them. I know that Trump was lying to them. He isn’t bringing their jobs back. Their situation is going to get worse except now with no safety net other than buying and selling illegal drugs which just got a lot harder with the legalization of marijuana in so many places. They are shooting themselves in the foot and I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. They have just demonstrated that they are willing to throw all non-white people under the bus for their own personal gain and thus have proved that they are scum of the earth. They make me ashamed to be a white person.

    My other source of hope? A lot of Trump voters are older. Younger people are very much less racist and less sexist and less homophobic. An Evangelical writer I like, Rachel Held Evans, believes this is going to be the church’s undoing and I say Amen to that! These church motherfuckers have been using what should be a beautiful religion for hate so they deserve to have their way of life die. And it is dying. Just not fast enough for me but I think that organized religion is just not appealing to a lot of people anymore. Especially young people. The other good side? Trump’s policies are likely to cause more older people to die sooner and since young people are much less bigoted than older folks, this problem in our nation is one that will be solved simply by people dying.

    Anyways, White people voted for Trump because they liked the lies he was telling them and they will soon find that out. I don’t think that the Democrats should start lying to people though. If the people are too stupid to get the truth, they deserve the government they get and I, for one, will be filled with schadenfreude as I watch the continued decline in status of white men in our culture. They deserve to have the patriarchy smashed over their fucking heads.

  29. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I’m surprised it matters, given some of the shit you post from FOX News.

    All out war.

  30. Darin Francis
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    We both know someone who could have taken this assignment and given us all a laugh and a good cry. As the one year anniversary of Caleb’s passing grows near, I feel raw again and miss him dearly. Don’t you dare stop writing while you have strength to do it. Write a book if not a blog or a screen play if not a book but I pray you always have the itch to write because we need good writers in our world right now and you sir are one hell of a writer! See ya soon!

  31. Jcp2
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    I think Lynne already said it, but here is a safe for work version.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/how-trump-made-hate-intersectional.html

  32. Jcp2
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    A safe for work version of Lynne’s post.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/how-trump-made-hate-intersectional.html

  33. Jean Henry
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    The far left is now saying it’s all about the DNC not understanding the working class. Not racism. Not sexism. They are actually ignoring a big chunk of the Trump voting demographics in doing so, but who cares about facts when I have an ideology to promote, right?

    They believe pendulum will swing again and make room for their socialist revolution. They could be right. Because people are mad at government and government isnt going to work any better for them under Trump. And then it won’t work any better for them under someone like Sanders. It would have worked better for them– incrementally as with Obama– under Hillary. But the American people are adolescents who want it all now. They want their side to win it all. Their way or no way. They don’t understand how democracy works– and they elect people who make government not work because it’s so divisive.

    Divisiveness and ideology is at least as big a problem in governance as big money. And that’s not going away. Michael Moore is calling for obstructionism from the left. So now government wont work for anyone. It will get worse. But you know, then we can just keep swinging back and forth between ideologies and sides and get nothing fucking done. So I guess we will see another 20 years of decline as the American people learn via natural consequences about democracy and how it works best for everyone the hard way.

    I fear Trump. But I also fear a wholesale ideological takeover by the left after him. I can’t even believe I’m saying that. Everything is so fucked up. Our institutions matter. They need to be restored. I hate ideology. It’s ignorance writ as moral certainty. I left that and now it has infected the place where I live. It’s why our local government struggles to get any progressive work done. Because of ideology over political reality. When Trump won, the leftist acceleration-ists also won. They have the left’s talking stick now. What lost was pragmatic, informed progressivism. I’m just going to sit out politics for a while and let you all play in the mud. I feel sick thinking about the next 20 years.

  34. Jean Henry
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    The will of the American people to ignore their own racism and sexism can not be underestimated.

  35. Mr. X
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    I’m thinking that I should join a white evangelical church and try to change it from the inside.

  36. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    You would collapse from all the stupidity and bigotry there.

  37. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Mr. X,

    You are welcome to join but it will likely change you, not vice versa.

  38. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    For the worse. Suddenly you will posting links to bullshit videos about gay rape gangs.

  39. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Or rather open the door to one:

    This is the kind of stuff that EOS reads about in her free time. Gay rape gangs.

    http://markmaynard.com/2014/12/the-gay-rape-gang-that-never-existed-and-how-it-spread-through-christian-social-media/

    ““A horrific event has taken place in Jamaica, in which a group of homosexuals took a man who was about to go jogging, stripped him naked, tied him up, and gang raped him until blood poured out of his anus,” said Shoebat. “We are going to be seeing this type of violence from homosexuals in the future. Expect homosexual rape gangs to be more numerous.””

  40. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    https://twitter.com/theodoreshoebat

    Theordore Shoebat’s Twitter feed is like a performance art piece.

  41. nobody
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    From the Washington Post article you linked to:

    “Clinton, on the other hand, seemed to take the Upper Midwest for granted, never campaigning in Wisconsin and finally making a panicky visit to Detroit on the Friday before the election.”

    From Jean Henry:

    “Wounded white men are not my concern. The are an increasingly small part of the electorate. They can’t turn this election.”

  42. Frosted Flakes
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Trump is Lynne’s fault and the fault of the many people like her.

    Far left people need mirrors, lots of mirrors, if they want to understand why something like Trump happened. Thom’s placing blame on “Trumpists” and Bernie supporters conveniently leaves out the group he identifies with–far left. Dude, people of all walks of life and races reject your hate filled rhetoric. Hate can not be the source of rhetoric it needs to be reason. People just aren’t as hateful and stupid as the far left assumes.

  43. Frosted Flakes
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Peter,

    We have all read EOS’ comment/question on cameras and the context. Why in the world would you want to continue to bring this up over the years? EOS has rejected your interpretation countless times. Sounds like either EOS either changed his/her mind or maybe you mis-interpreted the intent behind the original question (!) that EOS posed. It comes across as a very typical attempt on your part to demonize your enemy…People reject this kind of dishonesty. It appears to be an attempt, on your part, to bully. It is borderline absurd that you would over the years continue to try to tell EOS what he/she meant to say…Please tell me you understand why these types of interactions you have with EOS are perfect examples of the kind of problematic behavior that explain why Trump happened at all.

    We need mirrors, lots of mirrors.

  44. Demetrius
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    @ Jason

    “There is a time for anger, which is now, but later, and soon, there needs to be a time for politics and analysis concerning what a disaster as a candidate Clinton was and what a disaster her form of pro-corporate DLC centerist “liberalism.”

    I couldn’t agree more.

    Once the shock and disappointment of this election wears off, we need to begin picking through the ashes of the Democratic Party and begin building a movement that actually speaks to the interests and concerns of everyday Americans.

    To that end: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/11/09/the-future-of-the-democratic-party/democrats-need-recommit-to-average-people-not-financial-wizards-and-stars

  45. Frosted Flakes
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Thanks Nobody.

    The wounded white men comment is more troubling to me because it failed to correctly identify the group Moore was directing attention toward.

    Despite their backgrounds Lynne and Jean failed to understand the demographic Moore was talking about.

    I ask Lynne again: How far off was your prediction of the black vote? What are the conditions that make it possible that you could be that out of touch with how black people would vote?

  46. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Lynne,

    Wasn’t Obama going to shut down Guantanamo as soon as he took office?

  47. Lynne
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    No FF, Trump is YOUR fault and the fault of men like you. It is only my fault in the sense that I am a woman who is not afraid of her power and I refused to diminish it during this election in order to sooth the male ego and guys like FF have seriously fragile weak egos. President PussyGrabber is going to make you all feel powerful for a while as women hide their power for their own safety but young women already are treating men very differently and that is going to continue. I never will encourage women to dull their shine in order to make the men around them feel more comfortable. The stuff I read on facebook that my friends posted about their daughters’ reaction to this result have been *really* encouraging. The era of white male dominance is on the way out despite this setback and it wont be long before men are metaphorically kicked in the balls as they are pulled down from their lofty perch.

    And OMG, I find I am agreeing totally with Jean about fears of what the left will do. What they should do is manipulate the hell out of Trump which should be easy since he is such a narcissist. They need to get him and moderate republicans to pass laws which probably can’t get passed by a Dem. In the same way that it took Bill Clinton to sign the welfare reforms that the right wanted and it took Richard Nixon to sign the left’s EPA into law, this could be an opportunity for the left but not if they are digging in their heels and refusing to work with what we have instead of what we want.

    My biggest fear with the left is that they will use their discouragement over this election to just give up

  48. Diane (Fortini)
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Mark, Mark you are surely stirring it up:-) I think Jean is right in that we no longer produce leaders that do what is right for all. There is no longer compromise on issues. I’m somewhat camp-less as far as political parties, although, I admit that I am a Jesus freak. This goes deeper then the whole ignorant white male thing that many seem to be distracted by. People have different world views and ideologies. This effects their reasoning and logic. They are not stupid. It is extremely offensive and arrogant for each side to say the other is ignorant and/or uneducated, because they don’t follow the same path of reasoning. I could not in good conscience vote for either, although I knew Hillary would win my state. I processed all these depressing emotions when I knew we were down to Hillary and Donald. Give it some time. You will be ok. The U.S. will be ok. The constitution is pretty solid. Keep fighting for ALL people. Maybe you can get a glimpse at why I don’t put my hope in things of this world like education and government (although they are very important to me). They will fail and cause me to live a life of anxiety full of ups an downs. Keep it up Mark. I enjoy your blogs. It helps me stay in touch with your “side”. I do tolerate the arrogant, profane ugliness that freely flows from some, because I know deep down we all have that stuff in our hearts. And honestly, angry hurt people are in all camps. We should not blanket any group. We are all so much alike. Hurting people hurt people unless they choose to break the chain. I wish I knew you better back in high school, but I was a little wrapped up in my own issues.

  49. Anonymous
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Aaron Sorkin to his wife and 15 year old daughter:

    Sorkin Girls,

    Well the world changed late last night in a way I couldn’t protect us from. That’s a terrible feeling for a father. I won’t sugarcoat it—this is truly horrible. It’s hardly the first time my candidate didn’t win (in fact it’s the sixth time) but it is the first time that a thoroughly incompetent pig with dangerous ideas, a serious psychiatric disorder, no knowledge of the world and no curiosity to learn has.

    And it wasn’t just Donald Trump who won last night—it was his supporters too. The Klan won last night. White nationalists. Sexists, racists and buffoons. Angry young white men who think rap music and Cinco de Mayo are a threat to their way of life (or are the reason for their way of life) have been given cause to celebrate. Men who have no right to call themselves that and who think that women who aspire to more than looking hot are shrill, ugly, and otherwise worthy of our scorn rather than our admiration struck a blow for misogynistic shitheads everywhere. Hate was given hope. Abject dumbness was glamorized as being “the fresh voice of an outsider” who’s going to “shake things up.” (Did anyone bother to ask how? Is he going to re-arrange the chairs in the Roosevelt Room?) For the next four years, the President of the United States, the same office held by Washington and Jefferson, Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, F.D.R., J.F.K. and Barack Obama, will be held by a man-boy who’ll spend his hours exacting Twitter vengeance against all who criticize him (and those numbers will be legion). We’ve embarrassed ourselves in front of our children and the world.

    And the world took no time to react. The Dow futures dropped 7,000 points overnight. Economists are predicting a deep and prolonged recession. Our NATO allies are in a state of legitimate fear. And speaking of fear, Muslim-Americans, Mexican-Americans and African-Americans are shaking in their shoes. And we’d be right to note that many of Donald Trump’s fans are not fans of Jews. On the other hand, there is a party going on at ISIS headquarters. What wouldn’t we give to trade this small fraction of a man for Richard Nixon right now?

  50. Frosted Flakes
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Lynne,

    I am glad you are a strong enough person to realize that none of this is your fault and that the future is bright because of things your Facebook friends have posted about their daughters.

  51. Lynne
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    EOS, yes he was and he hasn’t although I am inclined to give him a bit of a pass because the reason he couldn’t is congress. I am, however, more angry with him because he didn’t do anything to limit the power of the office of president when he was in office and when republicans would have gladly done so.

    FF, I am glad that I know that I worked my ass off to get HRC elected.

  52. site admin
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    The people of Michigan also voted Rick Snyder into office for a second term, despite the evidence.

    http://markmaynard.com/2014/11/i-am-disappointed-in-you-my-fellow-michiganders/

  53. Meta
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Royal Oak students chanting “Build a Wall!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scgU6AlwFfw

  54. Lynne
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    FF, I am also glad that in addition to the hopeful things I see from younger people on facebook, there is a great body of sociological research that shows that younger people really are less sexist and racist than us older folks

  55. Thom Elliott
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    “…all walks of life and races reject your hate filled rhetoric. Hate can not be the source of rhetoric it needs to be reason.”
    Let me know how well that worked out for you libs. That you think being reasonable with the fascists will result in something other than being trodden under steel boot heels shows nothing other than your typical liberal idealism, which is worthless against this enemy. You’re going to collaborate with contemporary fascism along with Lynn, you’ll collaborate with Trumpists out of misguided, delusional idealism. You deserve Trump’s America that you helped bring into being.

  56. Thom Elliott
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    “Give it some time. You will be ok. The U.S. will be ok. The constitution is pretty solid.” Have you been in a cave? A literal child molester and rapist of countless women and girls has been given control of an entirely Republican government because of racist nativism and outright nihilistic fascism. The party of nonreaders, climate deniers, white supremacists, and masculinists now rule where you live, and you have no recourse. Nothing will be OK again

  57. Kit
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Check this out.

    “Now let’s get to work on these traitors.”

    http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2016/11/10/trump-supporter-suburban-detroit-calls-public-hangings-obama-others/

  58. Jcp2
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Comrade Alan,

    An anecdote to add to your data.
    https://theundefeated.com/features/stayin-alive/

  59. Loser Larson
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    EOS News:

    http://shoebat.com/2016/11/09/make-no-mistake-about-it-the-anti-trump-riots-happening-in-america-are-being-created-by-muslim-and-homosexual-forces-as-part-of-a-conspiracy-to-create-civil-unrest-in-america/

    “CHRISTIANS ARE BEING KILLED AND RAPED EVERY SINGLE DAY, PLEASE CLICK HERE TO MAKE A DONATION TO OUR RESCUE TEAM THAT WILL SAVE THE LIVES OF CHRISTIANS FROM PERSECUTION

    PERSECUTION IS COMING, AND EVENTUALLY SHOEBAT.COM IS GOING TO BE PULLED OUT OF FACEBOOK. PRETTY SOON THE BEST WAY TO REACH US WILL BE THROUGH OUR NEWSLETTER. CLICK HERE TO JOIN OUR NEWSLETTER, AND CONTINUE EDUCATING YOURSELF ON WHAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WON’T REPORT”

  60. Jean Henry
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    I found it for you. Mark. Or Ada did. She read it to me in the car on the way to the airport. A parting gift. It’s beautiful. “I woke up out of my dead sleep an hour ago. I knew Trump won before I went to bed. I just thought I might have a full nights sleep first. I’m the only one awake at my place so woke up lonely and deeply sad.

    So I came here. Looking for something. Sometimes it just feels too big, too overwhelming. The deep hatred and anger in America had always been there. But sometimes… Sometimes you know a relationship has been over for years, but hearing the words “I don’t love you” still cuts deeply

    That is where I am. I know America hates me. I know it is full of bigotry and ignorance. I have no illusions. It still hurts to hear. This feeling I feel now is one I haven’t felt in years. Not since arguing kids out of jail.

    I had a girl on probation. She’d done everything we’d asked of her. The hard work, the soul searching, brought up her grades, stayed out of trouble. She had done so well she’d been selected to represent our program in Albany. But the case that had brought her to us a year earlier although minor, was a probation violation. But nobody had bothered to violate her. So here we are with our model child, excited to advocate for juvenile justice.

    And the police come to arrest her.

    I had never been an expert witness before, but I tried my best to present her case.”She is EXACTLY what you want from us!” spoke of her achievements, her grades, her progress, her mentorship of others, her empathy, her dedication. She turned to me after I stepped off the stand and said “Thank you, Mister for fighting for me. Its not going to matter”

    My heart broke
    They’re gonna to see all you’ve done”

    “No, Mister. They won’t”

    “But…”

    “Its ok.”

    I knew she was right, but I a 20 something idealist wouldn’t accept the truth this 14 year old kid didn’t even question. The system didn’t care about her. Didn’t respect her. Didn’t care if she rehabilitated or not.

    I thought reason might prevail
    She knew.
    As I watched the light go out of her eyes as she was led away something in me broke. I left the courthouse and wandered the street in tears
    How could it be THIS fucked?
    How was I so powerless to lose a child who should have been a model case.
    How could the system be so dense?
    I’ve never been caught off guard by the system and its hatred again.
    I wasn’t tonight either

    But the FEELING is back

    I studied that case. I pored over it. Every bit of evidence, every word of testimony, every trick prosecution used. I fucking armed myself with knowledge and vengeance. I couldn’t do anything more for this girl, but I could do more for others. On that stand, I’d been unprepared for the dirty tricks. I would never be again. I never was again. I squared off with that prosecutor five more times and sent him packing each time.

    There is nothing we can do to change the outcome of this election.

    Its done.

    But we are not.

    This is one if those times. Where we must break. To take in the overwhelming reality and face it head on with all the pain it brings.
    Don’t put on a happy mask and pretend it’s normal. There’s nothing normal here.

    Its ok to break. America needs to sit here an cry it out for a moment because we are face to face with the truth of our country.
    We can’t pretend anymore.
    Its time for our illusions to come down.

    That we are in a post racial society.
    That the crowd will do the right thing.
    That facts matter.
    We need to come out from behind our comfort zones and bubbles and look at our country without the lenses of exceptionalism.

    Now we know.

    We are not more empathetic than Germany.
    More savvy than Brexiters.
    We are not more serious about our democracy.
    We’re just a fallible country full of regular fucking humans like everywhere else.

    We. Are. Not. Immune.
    Its ok to break. America needs to sit here an cry it out for a moment because we are face to face with the truth of our country

    Take a deep breath.

    When you exhale, realize that we are still in this together. And we have a chance. If we choose to take it, to drop our facades

    I am thankful for you. All of you. For your support, for your love, for your passion.
    Let this be a day of clarity.
    Let today remind you to connect with others. Share in your pain. Marvel and grieve.

    Trump’s presidency is a result of us not really seeing each other or our country for who we are and what it is.

    We can fix that. We can fix it especially if the elevation of Trump wakes us up to the truth of bigotry.

    I see a lot of surprised white people this morning.
    Im talking to you now surprised white people.
    I wanna bring you in for an empathy moment.

    This feeling you have right now. Amazement that the country could be so short-sighted, that it could embrace hate so tightly?

    Welcome.

    This despair and dread you feel. The indignation, the bewilderment, the hurt, powerlessness, the fear for family and livelihood?
    That knot in your stomach, that feeling of heartache? That uncertainty about your safety? The deep sense of fundamental injustice?

    Welcome.

    For many marginalized people, this spike in distress you feel this morning is what we feel EVERY morning. That feeling of “How could they possibly…?” is precisely what we feel with every incidence of excused violence, disenfranchisement, denialI do not say this to diminish what you feel today. What you feel is real and valid.

    I’m giving you an opportunity to truly empathize.

    For it is the lack of that empathy that allowed America to shrug as the marginalized shouted warnings.
    Today the imaginary wall that divides your experience from ours has come down.

    You have the chance to commune with the rest of us.
    This needs to be a moment where you realize that you are not alone in your pain.

    That there are those of us who know it intimately.

    Let this be the last time you are surprised by the prevalence of virulent hatred in this country. Let it be a moment that opens your eyes. This is a time that you can move on from the childish insistence that America is #1, grow up and recognize it as gravely ill.

    This can be a time for you to stop side-eying those who insist that something is and has always been something deeply wrong.

    Skip the hand wringing about how you didn’t see this coming and move to the part where you get on board to come down into the trenchesI see people talking about how Trump is #NotMyPresident.

    Yes he damn well is.

    It’s really important that you get this cause its key.
    Refusing culpability for America’s actions is how we GOT Trump

    Trump is an opportunistic infection that America let fester and grow in an immunocompromised environment

    America’s neglect of its own health comes directly from its stubborn insistence that nothing is as bad as it looks When we minimized the outrage about rape, about racism, about fascism and ignorance, about marginalization we created a space ripe for Trump.

    Trump is our President because we and the people who voted for him are still in the same boat as much as we’d like to deny it.
    Another country didn’t elect Trump. This one did. Your neighbors and relatives and co-workers and friends did. We are inextricably bound. We cannot wish this half of America away.

    But we can sure as hell challenge it.

    https://twitter.com/absurdistwords/status/796301496698671104

  61. Jean Henry
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    nobody– wounded white men alone did not turn the election. Bigots turned the election. I never underestimated their power. White women voted for Trump. A majority of white people of all income and education levels (except women with college degrees) voted for Trump. A Gallup study showed that most Trump supporters were NOT negatively impacted in any way by free trade. Many benefited. This is not about the wounded white men who supposedly have been neglected by our government; This is about the wounded white men who are bigots, who have been wounded by the rise towards equity of people of the marginalized. And no, I have no tears for them. I never will.

    The ideological left is going to grab the talking stick now to make this result not about racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia etc. They will try to say the working class have been neglected and they need to be heard. They will pretend their interests and the interests of people of color etc align. They will say anything to push for a protectionist/isolationist and socialist agenda. But the vote tally says otherwise. I am disappointed in the white women who voted for Trump and against their own interests. That does not mean the campaign against HRC wasn’t rife with sexism. It just means many women have internalized bias. They are also the worst people to get on rape trials because they will judge the victim. More so than men. Women judge other women, because that’s what we learned to do. Compete with each other to try to survive and win, because we couldn’t do it on our own merits. because we were told we cant do it alone. Women are vicious to one another. Hopefully we will grow up and out of it soon.

  62. nobody
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    I am not making any claim as to who is right and who is wrong in all of this. I am only pointing out that, when people here said that Clinton should speak directly to the people that Michael Moore spoke of, you said “fuck them”. You said that they wouldn’t keep Hillary from winning. They did.

  63. EOS
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Elizabeth Warren could have beat Trump. The reason Democrats lost was because of the numerous flaws of your candidate.

  64. Jean Henry
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Clinton lost because not enough people on the left voted at all or voted for Jill Stein. She lost because Evangelicals came out in previously unseen numbers. I don;t think Michael Moore was suggesting we make nice to the anti-abortion crowd, was he?
    No, because Michael Moore never does anything that doesn’t suit his larger political agenda.
    I have shown over and over again that Trumps supporters were not the white working class. They were all strata of white people. you can slice any way you want the numbers of people who could have been persuaded to act differently to turn this election. Perconally I don;t think the population to which he was referring were ever going to cross over– for either Hillary or Bernie. But Trumps support was not primarily the working class or the white working class. It was white people.

    So we;re supposed to make them feel heard because they hate Black people, gay people, powerful women, Hispanics, Muslims and immigrants. I don;t think so. They aren’t going to vote Dem. We lost the bigots in the working class during Reagan. They didn;t like Communists, people of color. foreigners.,etc. They thought the unions were too far left. And they would scarifice their unions to not have to share power or income (via taxation) with others.

    The Left lost this election. because, unlike the bigoted religious and alt right, they could not unite to vote for their candidate. They easily could have won. It was very close. I slice the pie that way in my analysis, because cozying up with bigots is counter to my agenda and because I dont think it would have worked.

  65. Jean Henry
    Posted November 10, 2016 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Elizabeth Warren is already running for 2020. She walks the line between the two positions here. Which is wise. I do think that there is a will to overturn the status quo. I think she underplays the breadth of bias, and the need to address implicit bias. But she wont have to run by playing to bias. She’s not an ideologue. She’s a lot more capable of compromise than Bernie, but is as ‘authentic.’ Her appraoch mediates well betwen all interests. She has more economic chops than Bernie and is more relatable than HRC. She mediates between interests but never seems to be doing so. Maybe she can take it in 2020. When she runs, we will see all guns blaring from the GOP establishment. They fear her more than Hillary. Then we’ll see how powerful a force sexism is. I hope I am wrong.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGFJUnYwtk

  66. Kim
    Posted November 11, 2016 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Be sure to include this link as well.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-kkk-trump-north-carolina-1478822255-htmlstory.html

    One of the largest Ku Klux Klan groups in the country has announced a parade to celebrate President-elect Donald Trump’s win.

    The Loyal White Knights of Pelham, N.C., says on its website that its parade will take place on Dec. 3.

    “TRUMP = TRUMP’S RACE UNITED MY PEOPLE,” says the website’s front page.

    No time or location for the event is listed, and a phone call to the number on its website was not returned.

    The group has between 150 and 200 members and is “perhaps the most active Klan group in the United States today,” according to the Anti-Defamation League. Last year, it was part of a South Carolina protest against the Confederate flag’s removal from the state Capitol.

    Several Klan groups endorsed Trump. Well-known former Klan leader David Duke, who on Tuesday lost a Senate bid in Louisiana, was also a vocal supporter.

    The Trump campaign was criticized this year for initially refusing to denounce support from the Klan. Later, the campaign described the Klan’s efforts as “repulsive.”

  67. Jean Henry
    Posted December 1, 2016 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    This is by far the best summary I have read of the election outcome, in that it allows for that reality that a close election with very different popular and electoral counts and candidates who are both wildly popular and unpopular is open to any number of politically convenient interpretations. In the end, it is that ‘you fucking white people’ article, because that’s the conclusion to which the numbers and rhetoric lead, but it gives fair shake to all the other interpretations. It’s long but excellent. I don’t think any short article could give fair shake to all the possible lenses on this election. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13631532/everything-mattered-2016-presidential-election

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13631532/everything-mattered-2016-presidential-election

  68. Jean Henry
    Posted December 1, 2016 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    More interesting data that can be interpreted to support any number of opinions, but not that GOP are the ones with the business acumen and fiscal integrity.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2016/11/29/another-clinton-trump-divide-high-output-america-vs-low-output-america/

  69. Karen T.
    Posted January 16, 2017 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    I just wanted to make sure you saw this.

    Team Bernie: Hillary ‘F*cking Ignored’ Us in Swing States

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/20/team-bernie-hillary-fucking-ignored-us-in-swing-states.html

    Ever since election night—when Hillary Clinton tanked and Donald Trump became the next leader of the free world—the most prominent allies and alumni of Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign have maintained a succinct message for Team Hillary: We. Told. You. So.

    In the final months of the brutal and chaotic 2016 campaign, there were plenty of Democratic activists freaking out about Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (the three states that ultimately cost the Democrats the White House) and Clinton’s fatal shortcomings there. Many of them were envoys of the Sanders camp who wanted to help fix those problems, including Clinton’s difficulties with the block of the mythical “white-working-class,” economically anxious voters who Sanders had championed during the primaries.

    “They fucking ignored us on all these [three] battleground states [while] we were sounding the alarm for months,” Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and former Sanders surrogate who served on the 2016 Democratic National Committee platform committee, told The Daily Beast. “We kept saying to each other like, ‘What the fuck, why are they just blowing us off? They need these voters more than anybody.’”

    According to Konst and multiple other people involved with these discussions, the Clinton campaign agreed to a meeting with a cadre of Sanders surrogates during the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in July. The purpose of the meeting, which included Clinton’s national political director Amanda Rentería and Team Hillary’s progressive outreach coordinator (and former Sanders senior aide) Nick Carter, was to address the concerns many Sanders camp alums were voicing about Clinton’s strategy going into the general election against Trump. Carter declined to comment on this story.

    “Once we were at the convention, Bernie people were on the ground—we could feel it, people were pissed off, there with their pitchforks ready to fight,” Konst recalled. “But before the convention, after the platform committee meeting that I was on, Bernie surrogates were talking constantly, saying, ‘Oh my god, Hillary is going to lose if she doesn’t address TPP and [free] trade and [all these] other issues. We were looking at the polling and thought that if these people stay home, she’ll lose.”

    When their meeting finally happened during the Democratic convention, the progressive activists’ fears were only inflamed.

    “We were saying we are offering our help—nobody wanted [President] Donald Trump,” Konst continued, noting that the “Bernie world” side was offering Clinton’s team their plans—strategy memos, lists of hardened state organizers, timelines, data, the works—to win over certain voters in areas she ultimately lost but where Sanders had won during the primary.
    “We were painting them a dire picture, and I couldn’t help but think they literally looked like they had no idea what was going on here,” she continued. “I remember their faces, it was like they had never fucking heard this stuff before. It’s what we had been screaming for the past 9 months… It’s like [they] forgot the basics of Politics 101.”

    As the days and weeks flew by, the Bernie delegation kept underscoring TPP, jobs, union allies, the youth vote, and the environment, and pitched multiple rallies with Sanders in states such as Pennsylvania and Michigan (a state where Sanders unexpectedly beat Clinton in the Democratic primary, and a state that Clinton actively neglected during the general).

  70. Demetrius
    Posted February 10, 2017 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    NYT Op-Ed: Democratic Party Sugar High

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/opinion/democratic-party-sugar-high.html

  71. Jean Henry
    Posted February 10, 2017 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Yes, whatever you do, don;t blame the Trump voters for Trump. Don’t talk about racism in America. Don’t talk about fear of the looming minority majority in this country, one that should serve Dems well. What we should do is blame the people who voted for Clinton for the divisiveness on the left, for making white fundamentalists uncomfortable. We should blame them. Sure, White leftists. You’ve got this all figured.

    And yeah, HRC didn’t campaign in swing states and that was a bozo error, just like Bernie ignored the South and lost the primary.

    Get over yourselves and your 5th quarter quarterbacking.

  72. jean henry
    Posted February 10, 2017 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Next liberal shit show may clearly be on the Berners but it will still be the Dems fault according to them. Side benefit if being outside the system is never having to be held accountable for what goes wrong. If the Left eats its own and destroys its opportunity for rebound, I’m giving up. If Trump can’t unify us we deserve what we get.
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article131806444.html

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