“Grab ’em by the pussy” …my thoughts on the hot mic confession of sexual assault that may change the course of human history

Earlier this summer, we talked here on the site about the possibility that Trump might have a Dead Zone moment – a moment in which, in front of the entire nation, he would reveal to us something so absolutely shocking about himself that we could not help but to turn away collectively in disgust, once and for all. I believe, at the time, most of us thought it wouldn’t happen, as everything he’d said and done up to that point had just been written off as “Trump being Trump,” as though that were an adequate excuse for his boorish, vile and anti-social behavior. It seemed, at the time, that he was invincible. We’d heard him make countless misogynistic remarks, incite violence at his rallies, suggest with a smirk that gun rights advocates might want to save the nation by assassinating his rival, and even mock the disabled, but none of it seemed to matter to his supporters, who just kept watching and cheering. As he himself noted at the time, he could “shoot somebody and not lose voters.” Apparently, though, there may be a limit as to what some Trump supporters can stomach after all.

This past Friday evening, the Washington Post shared 2005 audio of Trump caught on a hot Access Hollywood mic telling the show’s host, Billy Bush, that he can essentially “do anything” he wants to women because of his celebrity. “When you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump is heard telling Bush. “You can do anything.” Then, offering an example of what he can do to unsuspecting women, Trump is heard to say that he can just, “Grab ’em by the pussy.” [He also admitted on the tape to having recently tried to fuck a married women.]

Yes, the Republican nominee for President pretty much confessed to having engaged in sexual assault, forcing himself on women without consent.

And it looks as though that might might finally mark a turning point in the campaign. Over the last 24 hours, we saw a wholesale stampede away from Trump, as dozens of lawmakers sought to distance themselves from the embattled candidate. Utah Representative Jason Chaffetz, one of the first to withdraw his endorsement, said I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine.” Arizona Senator John McCain, who was the GOP nominee in 2008, followed shortly thereafter which the following statement. “No woman should ever be victimized by this kind of inappropriate behavior. He alone bears the burden of his conduct and alone should suffer the consequences,” he said. And, of course, those Republicans who had already come out against Trump, like former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, took the opportunity to pile on and add their voices to those, like McCain and Chaffetz, who were saying that this was truly beyond the pale. Romney took to Twitter to say, “Hitting on married women? Condoning assault? Such vile degradations demean our wives and daughters and corrupt America’s face to the world.

grabpussyWhile it’s doubtful that the defection of high ranking Republicans, like McCain, Chaffetz, and the dozens of others who have jumped ship since Friday night, will directly impact the support Trump currently enjoys from his predominantly small town, white, male base, I suspect we’re going to start seeing a trickle down effect as funds from the Republican National Committee begin moving away from Trump’s presidential campaign to down ticket contests, as the party attempts to keep its other candidates from being pulled under by the sinking Trump organization. And it looks as though it might already be starting. I just read mention that the RNC has started to pull back funding from Trump, and the Trump campaign has responded by cancelling ad buys in battleground states like Florida and Ohio. And, worse yet, Trump is being disinvited from campaign events, like one this weekend in Wisconsin, where he was supposed to have been campaigning with Senator Paul Ryan. While early polling seems to indicate that Trump supporters don’t care about his history relative to sexual assault, I can’t help but think that the poll numbers will begin to shift in time, as the ads stop running, and the media starts to portray Trump more and more as a candidate in crisis.

Of course, there’s the possibility that he could do or say something during tonight’s debate to shift things back in his favor. I suspect, for instance, that he’ll talk about Bill Clinton’s affairs, and insinuate that, however bad what he said in the 2005 tape may have been, Bill Clinton has said and done worse, but I don’t see how it will help him at this point. By taking the low road, and bringing up Bill Clinton’s history, he’s not going to bring party leadership back to his camp, and, without them, and the money that they control, I don’t see how Trump can stay competitive in battleground states.

Oh, and things are likely going to get worse for Trump. According to a story that broke last night, there are other hot mic recordings from the set of Trump’s reality television program The Apprentice that are even worse. And, as if that weren’t enough, women have started coming forward with stories of how the reality television celebrity had “grabbed their pussies”. So this really does appear to be the beginning of the end, barring a Clinton collapse or scandal of some sort.

dontgrabpussyFor what it’s worth, I think that many in the GOP are happy that this happened. I suspect they’ve wanted to disengage from Trump for a while now, but they just haven’t had a way out. “Grab ’em by the pussy,” gave them that way out, a way to turn their backs on Trump without offending the far right base of the party who handed Trump the nomination.

The thing I find most interesting is the fact that, if Clinton does get into office because of this, and if she’s able to get progressive legislation enacted on, say global climate change, it could turn out that “Grab ’em by the pussy” is what saved the earth. I mean, we’re at the tipping point now relative to global warming. If significant action isn’t taken immediately to limit carbon emissions, our species is done for, and we certainly weren’t going to see any leadership from Trump, who has said in the past that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese… I don’t know how it will all play out. I think it’s very likely that we won’t act aggressively enough and we’ll go extinct. But what if this 2 minutes of audio from Access Hollywood is what ultimately saved us from that fate, or from Trump using a nuclear weapon? How strange would it be if this was a more impactful moment in human history, given what’s at stake, than when we landed on the moon? How surreal would that be?

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about hypocrisy… To all of you out there right now with friends and family members who are still defending Trump, please ask them what they would have said if audio had surfaced of President Obama telling someone that, because he was famous, he could do whatever he wanted to women. Just close your eyes and image for a moment, what the these friends and relatives of yours would be saying at this very moment, if they’d heard a recording of Obama saying that he, as a course of habit, just “grabbed” attractive women “by the pussy.”

And I think that’s what angers me the most about this. There’s a different standard for people on the right. When Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress, we were told by people on the right that it was unbefitting a First Lady. But, when photos come out that show Melania Trump posing nude with another woman, there wasn’t a peep. When Howard Dean screamed at a rally, we were told it showed that he lacked the temperament to be President. But, when Donald Trump called an actress a “fat pig” it’s somehow alright. When John Kerry changed his mind about tax cuts and the Iraq war, we were told that he wasn’t fit to be President because he was a “flip flopper.” But Trump can change be shown to have lied several time within the course of a single speech, seriously misrepresenting his past positions, and it’s just accepted. I have no problem with setting high standards for the office of President, but at least be honest with regard to how those standards are applied.

One last thing… If reality television fame allows you the power to “grab pussies” without consent, what does being the President of the United Sates of America, the most powerful person in the world, allow you to do? It’s kind of scary when you think about it. If he’s like this now, what would he be like as our President?

Lastly, if you’ve never seen Elia Kazan’s brilliant film A Face in the Crowd, which is about the rise and fall of a television personality slash conman with political aspirations, I can’t think of a better time to sit down with the family and check it out. I watched it last night with Clementine, and I think that it helped her to understand, at least to some extent, the situation that we’re in now with Trump, even if he didn’t, like the alcoholic drifter Larry “Lonesome” Rhodes, portrayed by Andy Griffith in the film, come to fame from poverty, only to have it all unravel on live television, as a hot mic broadcast a glimpse of his true self into the homes of his millions and millions of fans. It’s an incredibly visionary piece of work, which foretold, among other things, the rise of celebrity culture in the United States and the popularity of television-enabled con men like Donald Trump, who drive big ratings by connecting with the masses through the telling of “simple truths” (which are actually anything but), all while serving their political and financial ends.

[note: The “Pussy Grabs Back” image at the top of the page was designed yesterday in collaboration between Feminist Fight Club, Amanda Duarte, Stella Marrs and Female Collective, and a href=”http://www.femalecollective.org/product/pussy-grabs-back”>there are t-sirts available. (Proceeds will be donated to RAINN, the nations’s largest anti-sexual violence organization.) I have no idea who made the second graphic.]

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46 Comments

  1. Posted October 9, 2016 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Here is a sample of what I have read on Facebook and Twitter today:
    1) Neither of them are saints! I’ve said worse things, all men and women have! He said those things 11 years ago! (female poster)
    2) Hillary stood by her man and slammed the women who accused him. Is she just getting a pass because she’s a woman? Why is what he is doing so much worse? (female poster)
    3) Hillary staying with and defending Bill against the women who accused him is as if she raped them herself (female poster)
    4) Meme : If women are so upset about Trump’s words, then why did millions of them buy Shades of Grey? (male poster, not sure who made the meme)
    5) Dozens and dozens of comments trying to equate Hillary’s misdeeds (real or imagined) and words and staying married to Bill with Trump literally saying to grab someone’s pussy and then you can do anything!

    The fact that we have to even debate this is extremely disturbing. It reminds me of when Tosh.0 pluckishly suggested gang raping a female audience member and we are all “first amendment!!1!freedom of speech1!!!1!he’s a comedian! it’s funny! lighten up!”. We should not be debating this because res ipsa loquitor (the thing is what it is).

    In the 80s, there was this t-shirt that said “stop the world, I want to get off”. I always thought that was the stupidest thing. But now I kind of understand it.

  2. Posted October 9, 2016 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    I find it interesting, in a “this is awful ” kind of way that the “grabbing women’s pussies” comment is the straw that broke the camel’s back. How is advocating rape worse than the other racist, xenophobic, misogynist vitriol he has been spewing?

  3. stupid hick
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Come on, by now I think you sycophants would understand the only place this hurts Trump is in a fantasy world that exists only in your liberal imagination.

  4. Anonymous
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    The most recent polling, which was done just after this, shows him down another percentage point, Stupid Hick.

  5. Anonymous
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    He’s not going down without a fight. I just received this news flash from the New York Times.

    BREAKING NEWS
    Donald Trump hinted at how nasty the debate could get: He held a news conference with women who accused Bill Clinton of sex abuse.

    Shortly before the debate, Mr. Trump held a brief news conference in St. Louis with three women — Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, and Kathleen Willey — who allege that Mr. Clinton sexually assaulted or harassed them.

    They were joined by a fourth woman, Kathy Shelton, who was 12 when she was raped by a 41-year-old in Arkansas; Hillary Clinton represented the man, who ultimately plead guilty to a reduced charge.

  6. Alan Stamm
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    A Face in the Crowd is uncannily prescient, as you say, especially the hot mic unraveling. And that was six decades ago in 1957 — talk about a crystal ball!. (Credit to screenwriter Bud Schulberg.)

    Other parallels:
    * Media as kingmaker. “Packaging” over substance.
    * An isolationist presidential candidate.
    * Griffith’s character picks up a young blonde twirler at an event he emcees, later weds her and ultimately dumps her.
    * The lines about “They love me no matter what” and “I can do anything” seem like previews of 2016.

  7. iRobert
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Trump is going to go off the rails tonight. He’s doing what everyone in the GOP has warned him not to. Pence might back out of the VP nomination.

  8. John Galt
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    I like that Trump didn’t share her hand at the beginning of the debate. I think it would have been better, though, if he’d just marched out and grabbed her pussy.

  9. EOS
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Best exchange of the night
    – Hillary “We are lucky he is not in charge of the law”
    – Trump “Because then you would be in jail”

  10. Posted October 9, 2016 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    I had one issue with Clinton tonight. Every time Trump quoted Sanders about how terrible her judgement was, I wanted her to respond, “Yeah, you’re right. Sanders said I had terrible judgement. But he’s still supporting me over you. What does that say about you, Donald?” It would have been awesome.

    And, yes, let’s just have this be an open thread about the debate.

  11. Posted October 9, 2016 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m likely not going to vote for Trump, but I have to admit that it does trouble me that, as one of 100 senators, Hillary Clinton did not bring about world peace and find a way to provide inexpensive health care for all people.

  12. Posted October 9, 2016 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    It was a depressing exchange. Trump has ambitions of dictatorship, jailing his critics and opponents and creating law on the fly.

    And the people cheer.

  13. iRobert
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Pence is back to being “proud” of Trump after watching the town hall fiasco tonight

  14. iRobert
    Posted October 9, 2016 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Hillary was playing it very safe, which suggests their internal polls show she is building a lead. She could have had a few fun comments prepared to trigger Trumps involuntary fits, but apparently they decided it was unnecessary.

  15. Posted October 10, 2016 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    “TRUMP: No, I didn’t say that at all. I don’t think you understood what was — this was locker room talk. I’m not proud of it. I apologize to my family. I apologize to the American people. Certainly I’m not proud of it. But this is locker room talk.

    You know, when we have a world where you have ISIS chopping off heads, where you have — and, frankly, drowning people in steel cages, where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over, where you have so many bad things happening, this is like medieval times. We haven’t seen anything like this, the carnage all over the world.

    And they look and they see. Can you imagine the people that are, frankly, doing so well against us with ISIS? And they look at our country and they see what’s going on.

    Yes, I’m very embarrassed by it. I hate it. But it’s locker room talk, and it’s one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS. We’re going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. And I will tell you, I will take care of ISIS.”

    Yes. Anytime a man is accused of sexual assault, he should simply refer to ISIS.

  16. Posted October 10, 2016 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    Note that “Christ” was not referred to a single time by either candidate. This must be a first in modern Presidential history.

  17. Posted October 10, 2016 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    Note also that climate change was only mentioned once in passing.

    An aside, I am afraid that I don’t recognize the America Mr. Trump speaks of. I doubt he gets out a whole lot.

  18. Posted October 10, 2016 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    Mr. Trump is an ignorant man, choosing to blurt out right wing keywords without understanding what they mean.

    Of course, this speaks to some of his supporters.

    As for “deplorables” and “iredeemable” she is correct. Trump has received endorsements from many white power groups. Glance at Trump’s Twitter feed and see who some of his supporters are.

    Trump is the most deplorable candidate we’ve had in a long, long while.

  19. Posted October 10, 2016 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    I apologize for commenting on the debate.

  20. Joe M.
    Posted October 10, 2016 at 6:01 am | Permalink

    Trump’s supporters really don’t care.

    I had a timely lunch Sunday with a well off, conservative uncle and a very well off, very conservative grandma.

    Uncle was disgusted, but think’s Hillary is a bitch, so at best, it sounds like he’ll vote for neither. Grandma didn’t care. (1) It was 11 years old and everyone is different after 11 years and (2) The Clinton machine/media wants this to get out, so it’s not fair.

    She doesn’t even have internet, so she’s not a FB/Twitter/conspiracy site troll. This is all she gets from TV. She’s pretty smart and very well off, but this is where we are today. This is how divided the country really is outside of little bubbles like Ypsi.

  21. Meta
    Posted October 10, 2016 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    From CNN:

    House Speaker Paul Ryan told fellow Republicans he will no longer defend GOP nominee Donald Trump and he will instead use the next 29 days to focus on preserving his party’s hold on Congress.

    “The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities,” Ryan’s spokeswoman said.

    In a conference call with party members. Ryan said, “you all need to do what’s best for you and your district,” according to someone who listened to the meeting.

  22. Meta
    Posted October 10, 2016 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    They’re trying to keep The Apprentice tapes from coming out.

    From Yahoo.

    The producer of NBC’s “The Apprentice,” Mark Burnett, threatened law suits against staffers who leak unaired outtakes which show Donald Trump in a disparaging light, BuzzFeed News reports.

    Burnett “is pro-Trump and has made clear to his teams that he will sue anyone who leaks,” a source close to the producer told the online outlet.

    Both Burnett and his production company have not responded to multiple requests for comment (from BuzzFeed News and several other outlets) after pressure mounted on the producer to release footage that former staffers have indicated is “far worse” than what leaked on Friday from the vaults of “Access Hollywood.”

    Also Read: New Anti-Trump Attack Ad Features Vulgar Comments Uncensored (Video)

    Bill Pruitt, who says he was a producer during Season 1 and 2, claimed to have firsthand knowledge of damning recordings of Trump.

    Read more:
    https://www.yahoo.com/tv/more-trump-tapes-apprentice-producer-warns-staff-not-211659721.html

  23. Kat
    Posted October 11, 2016 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Word on the street is that civil rights attorney Gloria Allred, who recently represented women against Bill Cosby, is now working on with several women who are alleging that Trump has engaged in “inappropriate contact” with them.

    http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-more-women-come-forward-after-trump-audio-tape-leak-enough-to-warrant-criminal-case/

  24. iRobert
    Posted October 11, 2016 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    You can trust that somebody who works at “The Apprentice” has already provided copies of the most damning audio and video of Trump. The Clinton campaign is just holding onto this material to release it a week or less before election day, if their polls show the race is too close for comfort.

    If Hillary has a comfortable lead in the last few days before election day, they will likely not release any of it, so as not to risk any sort of unintended consequence. However, that’s not a guarantee. Sometimes you want to create maximum turmoil in your opponents camp just before the final get-out-the-vote phase.

    The only thing that can save Trump’s campaign now is if her supporters become complacent and behave as if she has it in the bag.

    All of my comments here are based on decades of actual experience within federal and state level campaigns. In 1990, I was a paid field coordinator on a State Senate campaign. In 1992, I was a paid staffer for the Clinton presidential campaign and the William Ford congressional re-election campaign.. In 1994, I was a paid staffer for the Michigan Democratic Coordinated Campaign. I have worked on dozens of campaigns since as well, having served in a number of functions, including opposition research, strategy, etc. In 2004, I witnesses firsthand the massive election rigging and voter intimidation efforts in Ohio. In 2008, I acted in a variety of functions for John Edward’s presidential campaign, spending most of my time in Iowa. At the University of Michigan, my major was political science, and I studied polling and public opinion. I just want to state all this so that nobody here thinks I’m just some yahoo talking out of my ass.

  25. EOS
    Posted October 11, 2016 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Just another Democratic yahoo who has first hand experience in election rigging and voter intimidation. Your “credentials” are typical of most who are deeply involved in Democratic politics. Were you there in Chicago in ’60 as well?

    Everybody knows that Trump says outrageous things. No big deal. It got him fame and fortune in business. But Hillary’s own emails will be her downfall. Did you see today’s email dump? Don’t you think there’s much worse to come?

    For Clinton to win, she needs to keep her voters ignorant of the real facts. Trump merely has to reveal the truth.

  26. Posted October 11, 2016 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    “No big deal. It got him fame and fortune in business.”

    So, anything goes now?

    Sad!

  27. Posted October 12, 2016 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    It is interesting to see evangelical Christians and conservatives defending Trump given that he is neither. It isn’t that he simply is not a Christian but that he is just about everything that evangelicals rail against. To me, this is truly the ultimate hypocrisy and shows how insincere their beliefs really are.

    It is hardly surpsring for an evangelical to be caught in a sex scandal, but really quite novel to see evagelicals lining up behind a Presidential candidate who embodies almost none of the ideas they hold most dear.

    Trump is possible the least Christian President we will have ever had. Is this lost on evangelicals?

    Regardless, whether or not they dislike Clinton is irrelevant. It is possible to dislike both candidates for different reasons. Who one votes for is also irrelevant. One can voice the failings of a candidate strongly and vote for him or her. Liberal democracy is about preventing kings from obtaining power, and screaming loudly about the failings of power without fear of persecution. This is lost on people in 2016, who seem to be pining for a legally omnipotent king in Mr. Trump.

    I don’t expect much from people who occupy political extremes (of any kind), who often get there through a weakness in thought.

    Sad!

  28. John Galt
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    There is no hypocrisy at all. People wouldn’t care if there was a child rape case against Obama, like there is against Trump. I doubt the right wing media would even mention it. We’re more interested in substantive things, like long form birth certificates.

  29. EOS
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    So in your mind, Christians, who identify as such because they have admitted to being sinners themselves, are hypocrites if they associate with other sinners?

    If you are worried about an omnipotent king/queen then perhaps your anxiety is misplaced. If Trump were to be elected, his power base would be a majority of the population. However, if Clinton were to be elected, she would enjoy almost unanimous support of the Media, the entertainment industry, Wall Street bankers, and the elite of both parties. And she doesn’t like common folk and is completely fine telling us one thing and doing something quite a bit different. She also doesn’t believe the laws to be applicable to her. Many of us think she’ll be capable of doing far more damage.

    Sorry, but your shaming is not going to result in Christians or Conservatives sitting out this election.

  30. Posted October 12, 2016 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    lol

    I am not shaming. It is just confusing. What is more interesting is how some people worm themselves out of these quandaries. It is easy to understand why people would vote for Trump, but not easy to understand why evangelical Christians would like him. There is a difference between voting for a liking a candidate.

    Being utterly insignificant, I have no power over anyone. No one will be or has ever been swayed by anything I say.

    I will be dead soon.

  31. EOS
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Well for one thing, Trump has promised to protect the free exercise of religion. Clinton/Obama are trying to morph it into the freedom to worship. A person’s faith is 24/7 and not restricted to occur only for a few hours within the walls of a church/temple/mosque/etc. Clinton and Obama have held many positions that threaten the sincerely held beliefs of people of faith. They not only advocate different positions, which is fine, but go a step further and try to compel people to participate in activities that are opposed to their personal religious ideology.

  32. Lynne
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    EOS, I guess I missed that promise since it apparently came in between his other promises to persecute Muslims.

    As for Obama and Clinton not respecting other people’s religion. I don’t see it. They seem about as respectful of all religions as possible. I suppose Clinton’s position on marijuana isn’t respectful of those who use it in their ceremonies but other than that, I can’t thnk of a single thing.

  33. EOS
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    A temporary halt to immigration of persons coming from countries where their are large numbers of ISIS/Al Qaida supporters and where the functioning of their government has been severely limited to a degree where immigrants can’t be vetted is not a promise to persecute. The Germans and Swedes wish immigration were handled differently in the recent past and who knows if they will ever recover.

    Listen more closely to Obama. He always says “Freedom to Worship”. He’s trying to force doctors and Pharmacists to participate in abortions in opposition to their faith, as if you need to be a member of the clergy to live a life according to God’s commands. Killing a human being is not healthcare.

    Gender is God’s design, male and female, and he is doing everything he can to blur the division. Military Chaplains can’t pray with a group of soldiers before they are sent into battle, but men and women are allowed into opposite sex barracks and showers and they get sex change operations paid for with public funds. Cadets at West Point can’t put a scripture reference on their personal message boards, nor can they say a prayer in the locker room before a football game, or even grace before meals. Bakers, florists, photographers, caterers, and those who rent halls are bankrupted for choosing not to endorse homosexual marriage.

    Toleration of homosexuality is no longer sufficient but persons must affirm that it is not a sin, regardless of what the Bible says. Re-education training is mandated at many schools and companies. I read that one person who did attend a mandatory training was fired because he brought a Bible with him, which was sufficient to deem that he was creating a hostile environment. Absolutely no regard for his sincerely held beliefs. Religious speech and activities are no longer tolerated in many venues. Quoting a Bible verse is considered hate speech by many.

    In today’s Wiki Leaks dump, Podesta’s email described a plan to infiltrate the Catholic Church and attempt to modernize theological concepts that were established for two millennia. I can’t recall a single incident where either Obama or Clinton respected Christianity. If they mention it at all, it is in ways where they think God needs to “evolve” to fit their worldview. Hillary thinks there should be more abortions. 60 million is not enough? I don’t see how anyone with a conscious could vote for her.

  34. iRobert
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Actually, EOS, we are witnessing an election being rigged right now. I’m surprised you haven’t realized that…or at least you haven’t mentioned it.

    I’m pretty old, but not old enough to have witnessed the election rigging of the 1960 presidential campaign. I have read quite a bit about the details of it though, and am convinced Texas and Illinois were both likely rigged enough to flip them to Kennedy, and it made the difference.

    I was present in Ohio in 2004 and saw the voting machine tabulations for hundreds of precincts before that data was then routed through the SmartTech server in Tennessee to be rearranged into the “official results.” There were hundreds of campaign workers from both GOP and Democratic campaigns who all saw as much as I did and more, and would be able to share their stories as well.

    I also served officially on a canvassing committee once which was to examine and certify election results in one particular district and saw first hand the results being rearranged, by officials who I knew to be Democrats and Republicans. I resigned from that committee and refused to put my signature to the certification of the results.

    I have quite a bit of experience in campaigning, having been somewhat active in it all since the mid-1980s. In that time it would be difficult not to see quite a few things. Most of the voter intimidation and election rigging evidence I’ve seen was perpetrated by Republicans, though certainly not all of it. Granted also, I worked almost exclusively for Democrats and was assigned to tasks which put me in the position of seeing what the opposition was doing. With the jobs I was given, I would not have been witness to much of the dirty business the Democrats might have been doing.

    With all your nastiness, EOS, I am surprised you have said so little about how this election is being (and essentially has already been) rigged – the outcome predetermined long ago. I wish Mark would provide some means for me to communicate directly and exclusively to you through his blog somehow, without having to post comments publically. I think you and I would agree on a lot more than you expect, and I think I could shed some light on a few things you may only suspect at this point.

    Anyway, I hope you don’t take losing too hard. You really shouldn’t get so emotional about it all anyway. It hasn’t been helping you.

  35. EOS
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    I vote third party. As obscure as possible. I lose every time. I’m used to it. If people can’t see how rigged and biased the system is today then nothing I say can change that. They just want to pick a winning side, as defined by the media, and be the first on their block to have the right bumper sticker. But I get some small sense of satisfaction in standing against the system.

    I am not a Trump supporter. But I think he is the lesser of two evils. I dream of the day when enough Americans wake up and reject both parties, throw open the windows and yell, “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!” It’ll be too late. It already is. My hope is not in any party or candidate. God is my King and whatever happens He will still be on the throne and the sun will rise tomorrow.

    Hillary has an apparent easy ride, but they thought the UK would stay in the EU as well. No matter who wins, things will be tough.

  36. EOS
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    https://youtu.be/rGIY5Vyj4YM

  37. Kat
    Posted October 12, 2016 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Two more women have come forward according to the New York Times.

    BREAKING NEWS
    “Two women told us Donald Trump had touched them inappropriately, one on a plane, the other outside an elevator in Trump Tower”

  38. Posted October 12, 2016 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    lol

  39. iRobert
    Posted October 13, 2016 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Trump has dropped 5 points in the latest Michigan poll, putting him behind Hillary by 12, though she is still 5 short of a comfortable 50%.

    It looks like the story might be similar in Ohio and Pennsylvania. I guarantee the damage is even worse in Florida, due to the demographics there.

    But I’ll wait to see EOS’s take on it. He isn’t corrupted by actual experience in political campaigning (or getting out of the house once in a while).

  40. Posted October 13, 2016 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Trump will win. His Twitter feed told me so.

  41. Posted October 13, 2016 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    It is absolutely unbelievable that evangelicals and even conservatives are defending this guy.

    Again, I get why they might vote for him, but I don’t get why they would ever like him.

    But, hypocrisy knows no bounds.

  42. mr swetty nutsack
    Posted October 20, 2016 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    So does he like grab the labia, or does he actually stick a crooked finger in there and squeeze with the thumb? Or is it just the thumb like catfish noodling?
    I guess it doesn’t work anyway since they get away eventually.
    I am willing to try it though. Would it work for somebody who is not a star?

  43. M
    Posted January 16, 2017 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    It didn’t keep him from the White House, but it did change society.

    Check out this headline.

    “Connecticut Politician Arrested For Grabbing Woman’s Groin, Called it A ‘Joke'”

    http://jezebel.com/connecticut-politician-arrested-for-grabbing-womans-gro-1791231208

  44. Anonymous
    Posted January 16, 2017 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    According to the story, he told the woman ‘I no longer have to be PC’ before grabbing her.

    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/news-features/this-republican-politician-allegedly-told-a-woman-i-no-longer-have-to-be-pc-before-grabbing-her-crotch-20170116-gts8ok.html

  45. Lynne
    Posted January 16, 2017 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    I hope he spends time in jail over this. But he won’t. Because rape culture is real.

  46. Meta
    Posted January 17, 2017 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Daily Beast: “Gloria Allred: Accuser Will Sue Trump”

    A woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually inappropriate contact will file a lawsuit against the president-elect on Tuesday, according to attorney Gloria Allred. A press conference in Los Angeles with the accuser and Allred is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. local time. At least 13 women, including the president-elect’s first wife, have accused Trump of forcibly kissing, inappropriately touching or looking at them, or worse. Nearly a dozen women came forward with such accusations after a leaked video revealed Trump bragging to Access Hollywood host Billy Bush about being entitled to “grab them by the pussy” without consent.

    Read more:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/01/17/gloria-allred-accuser-will-sue-trump.html

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