As I’m somewhat new to football fandom, can someone help me out with something?


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  1. Steve Pickard
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Depends on the outcome of the Florida/UM game actually…if both teams lose their bowls, there’s no gloating in football. I think UM will win today though so you might be able to.

  2. Jay Steichmann
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Well, you can, but it would kinda be like admitting you care about U-M relative to MSU, and once you admit that, you have already lost.

  3. Anthony Gentile
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    It wouldn’t be bad form. Just kinda dumb. Also, it’s a Cotton Bowl shirt, so MSU will get royalties from shirts sold with their logo on it. Wouldn’t take a grad student to figure out its dumb to support a team’s finances just to mock their loss.

    MSU represented the Big 10 because they systematically beat the other Big 10 teams (with one exception). Michigan likely would’ve been schooled even harder last night. There is no value at mocking a team who beat you, just because they lost to a higher ranked team.

    But really, all this MSU vs UM stuff is just garbage. Fodder for people who think it expresses some sort of value to identify with one school over the other. We’re all just a bunch of Michiganders stuck in one of the mostly poorly guided states in the union.

    If wearing yellow makes one better off than wearing green, that’s awesome. But it doesn’t. And neither does the opposite.

    Time for humans to grow up and worry about the things that matter. Not dividing ourselves over which college we think we relate to most.

    Happy New Year. And for today, Go Blue.

  4. Brad Hodgins
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Wear the fucking shirt and bust some balls. Part of being a fan of your team is hating your rivals. Tell all the Michigan state fans to suck it out loud and rub their faces in the humiliation. Go Bears!!!

  5. Adam Eichner
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Who doesn’t like cotton? The irony of a cotton bowl tshirt, a bowl won by a team from a cotton producing state, likely made by imported cotton and chinese labor, should not be missed either.

  6. Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    I just knew this would bring out the best in people. I’ve not been disappointed.

    For what it’s worth, I wanted them to win.

  7. Brad Hodgins
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    You’re a dick

  8. Steve Pickard
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    I mentally finished the season with the Big Ten Championship…that was enough for me, didn;t even watch it turns out the MSU players ALSO mentally finished the season with the B10 Championship….

    I’m like the only crazy Sparty that would’ve preferred a Rose Bowl to the playoff thing.

  9. XXX
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Do all the Spartans have camel toes, or just 39?

  10. Taco Farts
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, but what Brad said. Not because of your proposed behavior, but because apparently your proposed dickish behavior was at least partially proposed so that you could comment on how dickish other people are being about your dickish proposal. Have some hair of the dog Mark and sleep it off.

    contributing in any way to college football rivalry is pretty much automatic dickish behavior, btw.

  11. Jean Henry
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Not interesting…
    And I find almost everything interesting.

    Cotton is interesting. Adam is right– the entire supply chain for most cotton t-shirts, from dirt to shirt, is corrupt and pernicious. I looked into it once for work. Conventional cotton may be the most environmentally degrading agricultural product one can buy. I would rank it well worse that factory-farmed meats. It’s that bad. Then it gets spun and made into shirts using grossly unfair labor practices including child labor. There’s a pile of geo-political infighting woven in there too– leading to mass suicides of farmers in a historic cotton growing region of India. Fun stuff. All so rich Americans can buy a t-shirt for $3. to print with their corporate or fraternity or team event logo.

    So I suggest a bare chest and some war paint in the colors of your choice.

    Plus you should talk to Maggie at Maggie’s Organics (and maybe Aaron at VG kids) about the t-shirt manufacturing business sometime.

    Ok back to football rivalries or whatever.

  12. Frosted Flakes
    Posted January 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    UM and MSU both had successful seasons. What would be your motivation for wearing a cotton bowl t- shirt? It could be interpreted in a lot of different ways ranging from you are a inappropriately gloating (and ignorant) UM fan to the other extreme–you are a proud of MSU’s successful march to the Cotton bowl.

  13. Posted January 1, 2016 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    My New Years resolution was to troll harder.

  14. Posted January 1, 2016 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    In all seriousness, it just occurred to me that someone might wear a Cotton Bowl shirt to the UM/MSU game and I was wondering how they might be received. So I don’t know that it was really trolling on my part. I didn’t say, “Sparty sucks, I’m a gonna wear a Cotton Bowl shirt to the game.” I just asked if it would be bad form to do so. But, yeah, I knew there would be heated responses. So maybe that’s trolling. I don’t know. I’m just getting started at the troll game.

  15. Posted January 1, 2016 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Changing the subject from trolling to pandering, did you hear that Carly Fiorina came out against her alma mater on Twitter today, saying that she hoped Iowa would defeat them?

  16. jcp2
    Posted January 2, 2016 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Is it just me, or does anybody else find the name Cotton Bowl a bit antebellum?

  17. Jean Henry
    Posted January 2, 2016 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Texas is the largest cotton producing state with a 25% share of the crop, JCP2. Cotton is it’s #2 revenue producing agricultural product, after beef. Beef Bowl would be an excellent name though.

  18. Lynne
    Posted January 2, 2016 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    If you really want to bug Spartans, wear a Nebraska shirt! ;)

  19. Kat
    Posted January 3, 2016 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Just throw handfuls of cotton onto the field.

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