In spite of the fact that Wall Street Journal columnist Jon Frieman declared Occupy Wall Street 99% dead this morning, the movement kept right on going. Today, most of the action seemed to be in Oakland, where activists, having called for a general strike in response to last week’s violent crackdown by police, brought a good part of the city to a halt. The reports are still coming in, but it looks like thousands took to the streets, as numerous businesses shut down. Among other things, all downtown banks were closed and the Port of Oakland was shut down. Even the Mens’ Warehouse, according to the LA Times, had a sign in its window saying that it was closed in support of “the 99%.” And, more than 260 Oakland public school teachers chose not to work today in solidarity.
While the protestors didn’t completely bring things to a screeching halt across the entire city, I think it’s incredible what they were able to pull together in such a short period of time. I believe I read somewhere that this was the first general strike attempted in the California in 65 years. While I don’t support the forced closing of independently-owned stores, I think the good, in this case, probably outweighs the bad. I think it’s important for people around the country to see that we the people, while we don’t have riot police and big banks on our side, still wield a great deal of power.
I know there’s a certain amount of risk involved with a leaderless movement like this, as you don’t quite know where it might be headed, but, for the time being, I’m really enjoying watching how things unfold. I like watching it evolve day by day. I like, for instance, seeing the New York occupation adopting bicycle power in response to the police having taken their diesel generators. I like knowing that the individual occupations are putting procedures in place for dealing with violent, or overly aggressive protestors. And, I like knowing that information is being shared between occupations, and that they’re learning form each other, getting smarter about how they do things. It’s totally inspiring…
Right now, thanks to the power of the internet, I’m watching a media workshop that was conducted a few days ago at Occupy Detroit by Justin Wedes – one of the guys who helped launch Occupy New York’s Media Team… And, here it is, for those of you that might be interested. [It doesn’t really get started until about 10 minutes in.]
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It’s like watching an new species arise out of a lake of muck.
“I know there’s a certain amount of risk involved with a leaderless movement like this, as you don’t quite know where it might be headed . . .”
It’s actually, historically, the opposite. Decision-making by consensus tends to resist any possibility of autocracy. And a decentralized movement will ultimately elicit more fear/respect from the opposition, if the movement is seen as a large public mass, rather than a single person or two who can be lobbied (or executed).
I don’t think Mark was saying that it was a bad thing, or that the mob could turn ugly, JC. I believe he, like Hedges did in that video we discussed a week or so ago, was just saying that it’s impossible to know where it all might lead. That isn’t to say that the result won’t be good. There’s just a huge unknown element.
Last night, fires were started by anarchists in Oakland. Occupiers tried to put them out, and they were gassed by the cops in the process. Here’s a first hand account.
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/lyqly/they_just_gassed_occupy_oakland_again/
Started by anarchists? Not sure what that means. Anyway, JC, were you perhaps thinking about Doctor King or Malcolm X by chance with the last word in your post? I was.
Oakland, California Police Chief: “All the requirements for RICO prosecutions of the OWS King Pins have been met.”
I wonder when we will see some indictments. Sooner than later one would expect!
That’s definitely the sense that I got listening to that last interview of Hedges, where he talks about the benefit of a leaderless campaign. He didn’t mention assassination explicitly, but I got the sense that’s what he meant.
As for the evolution of the movement, I think someone mentioned it in an earlier thread, but MTV has been stiffing around, talking about a reality series. I don’t know if their focus on individuals would be in keeping with the leaderless nature of the movement, but I think it could actually be a good thing. I like the idea of kids getting politics through their entertainment for a change, instead of just advertising.
By anarchists, they mean cops.
http://youtu.be/VrvMzqopHH0
Tatersalad, I googled your alleged quote. It does note exist. Rather it is a quote of one of your wingnut friends commenting on what he hopes the Oakland chief of police might say during a Laura Ingham interview.http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=59945 is it your nature to lie and spread misinformation, or are you paid to be a troll
wobblie…….I know it is hard for you to grasp but try this one then and give us your thoughful opinion.
http://bigjournalism.com/pjsalvatore/2011/11/04/new-footage-exposes-mayor-medias-lie-that-violence-happened-after-not-during-occupyoakland-march/
Wobblie…….from now on your comments will be placed into “moderation” since you have now attacked another messenger!
Tater wants to know if the people on this website subscribe to this “typical” Wall St. protester and that if they find him as a fine example of the protest?
http://bigjournalism.com/pjsalvatore/2011/11/06/sunday-crib-sheet-rooney-remberances-occupy-portland-media-meltdown/
K2…………..this is where it is leading but of course, your typical liberal news station like ABC, MSNBC, CBS and so on won’t report it:
http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/03/abc-news-report-pretends-occupiers-have-sexual-assault-problem-under-control/
Hey, this is great! Imagine the odds of this happening.
Do you know the park in NYC that the Wall Street protesters are occupying?It’s Zuccotti Park. Did you know this park is not owned by the city of New York?It is owned by Brookfield Properties. Who was just hired by Brookfield Properties as an attorney?Vice President Joe Biden’s son. Who sits on the board of Brookfield Properties?Mayor Bloomberg’s live in girlfriend. Now, guess what company just received some of the last of theObama Stimulus $$$$$$$. Thaaaaaaaaaaaat’s right, Brookfield Properties. Isn’t life great in America!
Now, guess what, on a completely unrelated note, Wisconsin is shaping up to be the swing statein the 2012 presidential elections. Not Florida. Not Ohio. But Wisconsin.Now, guess who owns the company that will be tabulating the electronic votes in Wisconsin.Thaaaaaaaaaaaat’s right, the biggest contributor to Obama, the puppeteer George Soros.Whaaaaaaaaaaaat a coincidence! Now remember what Stalin said. “He who votes does not have the power.He who counts the votes has the power”.
Wisconsin?
Tatersalad,
A couple months ago, the Republicans went to sleep with a 19-15 advantage in the Sate Senate on the recall elections.
They woke up with a 17-16, Gov Walker is now ready to be recalled, it’s just when, early 2012, or wait till the November 2012 elections?
Wisconsin was the start of the uprising of the greed, and to few people owning to much wealth and them trying to dismantle the middle class, workers rights, etc, and anybody, not at the top.
Florida, and Ohio will be the swing states as usauall or maybe just another landslide win for Obama, IMHO.
You might want to get factual information instead of your BS; somewhere other than the GOP putting out their complete backwords, talking points, missinformation, and out right lies.
Watching and Laughing……….You might want to get your factual information correct before your typical BS, somewhere other than your left wing, socialist informational access. Maybe you can understand this. Then again, maybe not!
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/07/gallup-number-of-self-identified-conservatives-now-double-those-labeling-themselves-liberal/
Tatersalad, my names says it all to you,
Watching Laughing.
And it’s still evolving. Now they’re moving to communal tents in NY.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/07/zuccotti-park-occupy-wall-street-tents_n_1080845.html?ref=mostpopular
The next stage of the evolution?
Gay Occupy-themed porn.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/23/occupy-oakland-gay-porn-_n_1110985.html
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