Tonight, I wanted to write about how fucked up things are in Uganda, where they’re now considering the death penalty for homosexuality, about how Obama is going back on his promise to negotiate the details of the healthcare bill in the light of day, and how it looks as though Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner may have, when he was with the Federal Reserve, channeled bailout money through AIG to Goldman Sachs, where he had previously worked, urging all parties involved to keep their mouths shut, but I’ve decided to curl up with a glass of cheap scotch and an old Sherlock Holmes book instead, so you’re on your own… I feel terrible for doing it to you, but there’s only so much reading one can do about Christian missionaries demonizing gays, the crooked bullshit that went on around the bank bailout, and the depressing state of healthcare negotiations, before your head starts throbbing… Best of luck to those of you who attempt it.
Killing gays in Uganda, stealing money at home, and negotiating healthcare in secret
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I know how you feel… I still can’t read an issue of Mother Jones, the New Yorker or the Atlantic from cover to cover in one sitting.
It’s bad enough that Geithner used tax-payer dollars to buy up bad debt from his friends, paying full price, when, on the open market, it would have cost pennies on the dollar. If, on top of that, he was using AIG to funnel money to his cronies, and encouraging them to keep it quiet, we should keep Gitmo open and throw him in.
Those so-called Christina missionaries that went to Uganda preaching their anti-gay bullshit should be held accountable for their actions.
All this junk has been going on for years & years. I’ve been thinking lately, how much happier I was 15 years ago…when I didn’t give a shit, or follow any politics.
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All media reports are that the American fundamentalist Christians were there to promote programs to “re-educate” persons convicted of being homosexual. The Americans were promoting the equivalent of mandatory drug treatment for drug offenders while the Ugandans are promoting the mandatory execution of drug offenders.
It goes without saying that homosexuality should be decriminalized in Uganda. But to draw the connection between the visit of a few Americans and a Ugandan policy promoting capital punishment (in direct, logical conflict with the policy they were promoting) is kneejerk and careless. We may feel the need to get angry and make someone accountable, but it just isn’t that easy. This policy is the result of Uganda’s complex social, political, religious, and economic conditions. Not the result of three white fellow who flew in for a weekend seminar.
Yes, it’s not strictly fault. I agree with you. These three certainly didn’t help, though. They poured gasoline on the fire.
I find African policies and attitudes against homosexuality deplorable. I also know that policies in African countries are often ineffectively enforced and implemented.
I think that people on this end of the world would do better to focus on the deplorable way that homo/trans people are treated in this country before pointing fingers at other countries. As the wealthiest, one of the most educated and supposedly advanced country in the world, we have much to be embarrassed about.
“We may feel the need to get angry and make someone accountable, but it just isn’t that easy. This policy is the result of Uganda’s complex social, political, religious, and economic conditions. Not the result of three white fellow who flew in for a weekend seminar.”
it seems pretty clear to me that the people who failed to consider the complex social/religious/economic context were the three white fellows. i think it’s just that easy.
It seems pretty clear to me that those types of folks you mention would rejoice if there were a state policy of exterminating homosexuals, much as they may state publicly that they wouldn’t.
Isn’t Uganda the home of Joseph Kony?
According to the links provided, the 3 Americans were in Uganda to: “to provide counseling for those who experience unwanted same-sex attractions (SSA), including their family members, and to educate all people about the facts of homosexuality—1) no one is born this way, 2) no one chooses to have SSA, and 3) that changing from homosexual to heterosexual is possible.”
They weren’t demonizing gays. They don’t rejoice at the thought of exterminating homosexuals. They try to help those who have unwanted same-sex attractions. They are spending their time, money, and efforts to help others.
Everyone will be held accountable for their actions. Those who encourage others to engage in behaviors that forfeit their eternal souls will be held accountable.
“Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Matthew 10:28
same sex attraction would not be unwanted if it were not for cultural and religious constructs that say it should be unwanted.
On this same subject, here’s some seriously fucked up shit from Malawi about how gays worship Satan.
The Malawi newspapers are an endless source of articles just too weird to be made up.
EOS – Let me be sure I understand your “facts” of homosexuality: no one is born having same-sex attraction and no one chooses to have same-sex attraction. So how do you explain people who are attracted to others of the same sex? Demonic possession?
Or the people born with no sex attraction at all. One must assume that they choose not to be attracted and are really raging sex maniacs on the inside.
cmadler,
There’s a ton of information in the medical literature that could educate you on this issue. In short – it’s not nature, it’s nurture/not genetic, but environmental. It’s certainly not an immutable trait as evidenced by the large number of persons who have successfully changed their sexual orientation.
injector,
SSA would not be unwanted if it satisfied the needs of the individual.
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And my argument makes as much sense as yours, you ignorant bigot.
Some are saying that Geithner may do time.
Curt –
I think you got it backwards there. Just because you can’t understand doesn’t make the other person ignorant.
There was no evolution on 9/11!
EoS, you might like this article. It seems that you are on to something.
Gay prisoners were also subjected to vile medical experiments. At Buchenwald, Nazi doctors claimed to have developed an artificial male sex hormone that would eradicate homosexuality. When it was implanted in gay inmates, however, two died and the rest showed no change in sexual orientation. The doctors nevertheless boasted to the SS chief, Heinrich Himmler, that “this implant, known as 3A, is proven to reverse homosexuality to a normal sex drive”. After the war, these medical abuses were never cited at the Nuremburg Trials and none of the Nazi doctors involved was ever prosecuted.
http://www.petertatchell.net/history/hidden%20from%20history.htm
Homosexuality is a total disgrace. We in Uganda completely shun away from that uncouth sexual behaviour. Please note that, like poles do not attract each other. It’s so disgusting seeing men kissing each other in public and now, when it comes to … oh no! God bless this crazy world
Thought that people would like to see where EOS stands on the murder of gays.
New developments:
Read more:
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/uganda-officially-pass-%E2%80%98kill-gays%E2%80%99-bill121112