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  1. Gretchen Forshay
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    This was removed for being offensive, right?

  2. Dan
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    Have you heard clips of Bob Dylan’s Christmas Album? It’s something.

  3. Gus
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Anything on TV tonight?

  4. Oliva
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    I love what someone on the radio said about Dylan’s voice after playing a clip of a Christmas song–can’t remember it precisely, but it was something like, “A great voice isn’t necessarily about tone; sometimes it’s all about expression.” Hmmm, or was it “expressiveness”? Anyway, I liked it.

  5. Brackinald Achery
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait till that picture isn’t the first thing I see on this blog.

  6. John Gawlas
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    I can’t wait until Dylan singing “Winter Wonderland” isn’t reverberating in my head.

  7. Kevin
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    I hope you didn’t get this developed at WalMart.

  8. Seven Larry Seven
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know the status of the Freighthouse? I thought that we’d see work starting this summer.

  9. LT
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    What was it about these dioramas that was supposed to be so offensive? Was it that they weren’t accurate, or was it that someone had the audacity to present it at all?

  10. Posted October 15, 2009 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    “They’re NAKED, they’re NAKED!”

    Cause that’s what I heard being screamed every couple of hours during school days as groups of kids came up to the dioramas the year I worked in the lab right next door (actually the doorway was between the two sets of dioramas). If I was by the door, I would also sometimes get to hear the docent or teacher explain how different cultures dress differently. Some of them were less fazed by it than others – I imagine the docents must have had the opportunity to develop a good response, given the repeated “NAKED” reaction. Don’t these kids get National Geographic at home anymore?

  11. LT
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Tonight? Or do you mean last night?

    And you should write something about Texas Governor Rick Perry and his murder of an innocent man – Cameron Todd Willingham – for political purposes.

  12. Kim
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s PC bullshit. I don’t think native people were outraged by the dioramas. I think the outrage was mostly from non-natives who saw racism.

  13. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    ooo, open thread needs a pet issue. Here’s one. Hey, City Council Ward One. Do you know how many council meetings Mrs. Swanson Winston has attended in the last six months? Would you be surprised if I said less than six? That’s under 50% attendence, enough to get a student expelled from school. Take a look at the record. Now, we can excuse family buisness once in a while, but seriously folks, take a look at the records. The woman hardly ever shows up. I won’t even go into what I think of her contributions when she actualy does make it. As city residents, we pay the Mayor Pro Tem to do a job. If played hookey from your job as often as she does, you would have been fired months ago. Take a look ward one, and ask Mrs Swanson-Winston what she has been doing that is more important than the duties she was elected to do.

  14. West Cross
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a good one. A Lego Rock Band game is being made.

    And it features Lego Iggy Pop.

    Lego Bowie too….

  15. jennyfurann
    Posted October 15, 2009 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    So Whip It came out – did you go see it? Come see some real derby! The Detroit Derby girls Champs vs Chumps game October 24th – doors open at 6pm. Masonic Temple, Detroit. I’m playing!

  16. just Josh
    Posted October 16, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Speaking of movies, how do you feel about “Where the Wild Things Are” being made in to a movie?

  17. Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Everything’s going to be okay.


  18. Me
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    I heard from a reliable source that the real problem with the dioramas was that they came to life at night and fought with Owen Wilson and Steve Coogan.

  19. Tidy Heidi
    Posted October 20, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    The current version of the Milton Bradley game Chutes and Ladders is sexist and teaches young girls to expect and accept inequality.

    The game board offers punishment and rewards for good and bad behaviors. The boy characters are shown committing six negative acts for which they are “punished” by losing a total of 79 spaces. The girl characters are shown committing four negative acts for which they lose 164 spaces. Girls are clearly being shown that they should expect more severe consequences for antisocial or rebellious behavior than males who engage in similar behaviors.

    The same is true of reward.

    Girls are shown to engage in five positive behaviors for which they are advanced a total of 75 spaces. Boys are shown engaging in only four positive behaviors yet are advanced a total of 124 spaces. Children who play the game learn that boys should be expected to receive far greater reward/compensation than girls who do equal work.

    What does little Suzie learn when playing Chutes and Ladders? She learns why the blond haired boy on the cover looks free and easy and why the two girls at the bottom of each ladder look so concerned.

  20. Trudatte
    Posted October 20, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Heidi, You got way to much time freak. Ho Ho Cherry OOOOOO!!!

  21. Robert
    Posted November 1, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Why is it ok for Fox 2 in Detroit to descriminate against people of non-color in their hiring? Shouldn’t their be a civil rights case being brought against them?

  22. Robert
    Posted November 2, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Oh God! I used “their” instead of “there”! Now I am one of those idiots. God help me.

  23. Kim
    Posted November 2, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Are there “people of non-color”?

    And, what job did they not hire your for, Robert?

  24. Lee
    Posted November 2, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Don’t tell me that Robert aspires to be a Weatherman.

  25. Robert
    Posted November 2, 2009 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    There must be, Kim. You can’t have people of color without implying that there are people who are not of color. And it is those people who are of non-color who are underrepresented on Fox 2. The make-up of their on-air staff does not accurately represent their audience. They must be discriminating in their hiring based on race.

    No, I wasn’t applying for the weatherman job, Lee. I wouldn’t work for screw-ups like Fox 2 if my life depended on it. I just occasionally catch a glimpse of it while flipping between watchable channels. The times I’ve seen their pathetic attempt at a news show it was like watching a 6th grade spring play. They are constantly flubbing lines and dropping audio. I guess that’s the quality of production you get for minimum wage.

  26. Artemis Fogbottom
    Posted November 2, 2009 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Because, you know, people of color can’t be competent, right, Robert?

  27. Oliva
    Posted November 5, 2009 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    My brother sent me this notice about an upcoming show at the Elbow Room (Friday the 13th):

    Brett Berk’s younger brother is in a pretty good band that will be playing the Elbow Room in Ypsi on the 13th of November. They are called The High Strung. There are many sources to listen to them, read about them on the web. Here is one url, if interested:

    They have been on NPR and DET often, including an interview on This American Life

  28. Robert
    Posted November 17, 2009 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    No, Artemis Fogbottom. People of any race, working for minimum wage and with substandard equipment, are almost always going to turn out a poorer quality product. That’s Fox 2.

  29. EOS
    Posted November 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Robert –

    I heard Charles Pugh say the opposite. He said there are a few persons of color on the air, but all of the executive positions are held by whites from the Northern suburbs. Charles claimed that the audience was primarily the city of Detroit and so 80% of the station’s executives should be African American.

    Fox 2 has a niche. It has the earliest and most extensive local coverage. But for national/international news – cable is still the best option, you know, fair and balanced.

  30. Robert
    Posted November 17, 2009 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    EOS –

    Charles Pugh is full of it. His 80% claim is just plain untrue. Fox 2’s audience is not primarily in the city of Detroit. The station’s broadcast range covers an area with a population of well over four million. The City of Detroit has under one million. It may be true that viewers outside of the city watch at a slightly lower rate than those within the city, but Fox 2 has at any one moment far more viewers outside the city than inside – usually between 2 to 3 times as many.

    It doesn’t surprise me that Fox 2 also hires disproportionately white individuals for their executive positions. I could have guessed that.

  31. Sharls
    Posted November 17, 2009 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if people would like Glenn Beck more or less if he were black.

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