To Glenn Beck’s credit, he isn’t dialing down the crazy in response to the extremely successful boycott of his FOX News show… Check this out:
That’s right, he’s suggesting that Obama is spending half a “trillion” dollars on the creation of a private army to do his bidding.
Only problem is, it’s just a little over $100 million, and it’s not for a modern version of the SS. It’s for the AmeriCorps program. Here’s the breakdown from Tree Hugger:
…In the clip, Beck argues that Obama asked for half a trillion dollars for AmeriCorps, putting it on par with the Pentagon in terms of funding. In reality, for fiscal year 2010, the president requested less than two billion dollars for the Corporation for National and Community Service, AmeriCorps’ parent agency, and Congress appropriated $110 million…
One wonders what’s next.
Oh, and if you want to see what the kind of cold-blooded killers Obama is assembling for this elite SS-like squad of his, just look at these terrifying images of current AmeriCorps personnel. What this Kenyan has in store for us, America, is absolutely diabolical.
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Nice legs on the Water Quality Monitoring Nazi.
this is too insane. i can’t believe how he is twisting the whole point of americorp.
See also Glenn Beck’s lies about Van Jones:
http://www.alternet.org/story/142310/glenn_beck%27s_crazy_lies_about_van_jones/
Mark have you read the bill regarding the Civilian National Security Force?
It specifically give the power to carry firearms and make arrests. This is not the national version of the Peace Corps.
Here is a link:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h675/text
ytown do you know any americorps volunteers?
this shit’s laughable.
What are AmeriCorps volunteers going to do, cry on people? Or help them to death? This is a great next step from the Death Panel idiocy.
And 100 million doesn’t come anywhere close to half a trillion.
ytown, your link has nothing to do with Americorps. It is about civilian employees of the Department of Defense, such as civilian cops who work on military bases. Americorps volunteers are not employees of the Department of Defense.
Civilian cops who work on military bases? I thought they had MP’s. I don’t think Glenn is afraid of Americorps, he’s wondering why the funding for a National police force is being laundered through their Agency. You can’t use employees of the Department of Defense against a civilian population, or should I say the Constitution prohibits it, but when has the Constitution stopped any modern President?
Glenn Beck only makes sense to EOS.
Now that makes sense.
Sweet Jesus! Are you kidding me? What the hell is wrong with this man (Beck)? I’m a former Americorps volunteer and I can assure you I am not a revolutionary communist. Good lord.
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Pres. Obama, July 2, 2008 – Colorado Springs
Yeah, Glen Beck is at it again. Asking Obama to explain what he meant when he spoke the above words. A nation with a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded as our military is a fascist police state. There is absolutely no credibility in suggesting that this quote refers to an expanded Americorp.
The boycott of Beck’s show is a joke. FOX hasn’t lost a dime, some advertisers have merely switched the time slot of their commercials and Beck’s viewing audience is ten-fold more than it was on CNN.
EOS, this is about expanding the Peace Corp, Americorp etc. It’s all in detail in The Blueprint for Change: Barack Obama’s Plan For America. Can we argue about the merits of spending money on expanding such programs without resorting to scare tactics not based in fact????
Dharma,
Are you saying that you think Obama is referring to Americorp as a civilian National security force that will be just as powerful, strong, and well funded as our military? In what manner is Americorp considered a security force equivalent to our military? Is $100 million in funding for Americorp what Obama was referencing as being as well funded as our military? The fact is Obama made the statement and he has yet to give a credible explanation.
I find it funny that some people believe Glen Beck and Steven Colbert are really conservatives. How much harder do they have to push the sarcasm button? Do they have to push so hard that they shatter people’s televisions screens?
So Mike –
Do you think Obama’s quote is referring to Americorp?
EOS—context: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_gestapo-like_civilian_national.html
EOS, you just got your ass handed to you.
Folks, EOS doesn’t understand that “strength” and “power” can come from things other than guns. Of course, if he ever actually studied Christianity (or read the autobiography of Malcolm X, for that matter) instead of just hiding behind a Bible when people start using big words, he would learn that the true nature of power is how people relate to other people. Human relationships. Communication. Care. Perception.
Oh well. Back to Beck…
Let’s get back to water monitoring – http://www.basinalliance.org/images/Monitoring/Americorps%20vol_SRS.jpg
I would pay $110 million to have her monitor my water
Damn, Bob.
The FactCheck link is not unbiased on this particular topic. The link merely disputes that Obama is planning to set up a Gestapo-like civilian security force. FactCheck says that, referring to a Gestapo-like security force, is a false claim and a badly distorted version of Obama’s call for doubling the Peace Corps, creating volunteer networks and increasing the size of the Foreign Service.
To its credit, FactCheck did include the written transcript of the relevant portion of Obama’s speech in July, 2008 in Colorado Springs. “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Every major media outlet at the time deleted these two sentences from the published transcript at that time. If it weren’t for videos posted on YouTube, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.
The military budget for FY 2008 was about 500 billion dollars. To suggest that merely doubling the Peace Corps, creating volunteer networks and increasing the size of the Foreign Service would require $500 billion dollars a year is ludicrous.
Curt – My strength and power is in the Almighty God – neither guns nor security forces can touch that. I’ve read Malcolm X. He was a muslim who advocated violence for at least a portion of his adult life. What has that to do with the study of Christianity?
The reference to “strength” and “power” of a civilian national security force is not an alarming concept to me. That Obama would want to fund this force at the same level as our current defense budget does greatly concern me and should raise the alarm in every American’s mind. Fact check said Obama’s detractors make much of his expansive (and exaggerated) description of such a force. How exaggerated is it Mr. President? This year, in an enormous economic crisis, he requested, according to Mark, under 2 billion and Congress appropriated $110 million. What is his goal? How many Americans will be employed in this civilian security force once he completes the takeover of our industries and banking?
If Obama wants to buy me a machine gun and an RPG, I’m all for it.
Speaking of Glenn Beck, does anyone know if he’s officially denied this yet?
Funny, but not quite an apt comparison if it is in regards to the birther thing. A more apt one would be an allegation that Beck is not actually qualified to be a Fox News host because he lied on his resume regarding something that was mandatory for the job. I’m not sure what the criteria for being a Fox News host are, however.
85% of American’s believe Beck raped and killed a woman in 1990.
http://www.twiigs.com/poll/Politics/38512
There you go. Couldn’t have a better illustration of the differences in America today. One side tries to talk about an issue and the other side fabricates malicious personal attacks while calling the other person crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svf0vhVZ3Fo&feature=related
By malicious personal attacks I assume you mean Glenn Beck calling Obama a racist and a Nazi. By “one sides tries to talk about an issue,” I assume you mean those who want to debate the extension of health care to more Americans, while others fabricate (“death panels”) and willfully misinterpret (Americorps volunteers as a de facto national police force).
I agree–a clear illustration of the differences.
kjc –
At what point in the video does Glenn call Obama a racist and a Nazi? Tell me what the timer says when he speaks those words. What I heard was, ” …I’m not suggesting anything. I am asking questions…”
You are willfully misinterpreting.
i didn’t watch that stupid video. i wouldn’t watch glenn beck for money. watching that dude makes people stupid, clearly.
as for “i’m not suggesting anything…” HA. check your bullshit detector. it ain’t working.
EOS, there have been private security companies providing guards at military bases for several years now. Your heroes in the Bush administration did that as part of their massive efforts to privatize. It’s odd, I don’t recall you, or any others of your ilk, expressing any concern about any of this until the last few months.
Robert –
Bush is/was never my hero, nor a candidate that received my vote.
kjc –
We don’t have to worry about those “fabricated death panels” anymore since the Senate committee has announced that the provision was removed from the bill under consideration. That “crazy woman” Palin forced the change by making a single post on her Facebook page.
yep, you’re right, EOS. no more end of life counseling–though palin had pushed for this in her own state.
i tell you–turn off Fox. save your brain cells.
EOS,
Just curious, but can I ask you as question? In a comment above you wrote that the government “can’t use employees of the Department of Defense against a civilian population, or should I say the Constitution prohibits it”. What passage in the constitution is it that you base this statement on? I admit to being rusty and dead, so I’d appreciate a clarification on this point. Thank you.
I assumed he as referring to the posse comitatus act, which, I believe, was passed about 100 years after the Constitution was ratified and isn’t part of the Constitution.
The Constitution does, in fact, provide for Congress to call forth the militia to enforce federal law under the command of the President, if memory serves. It actually is one of Congress’ enumerated powers, unlike providing universal healthcare.
You’re right James, Brackinald and Robert,
Posse Comitatus is not in the Constitution. My mistake. The Federal law limits the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement in the United States. I actually wasn’t aware of civilian guards on military bases. Are any of them armed?
Okay, another serious error of constitutional interpretation by EOS, but this one he admits to having made. The constitution does require the federal government to suppress “domestic insurrection”, and that’s relevant to what the Govt. can or cannot do under the constitution.
As for the enumerated powers: where is the federal power to build highways or supervise civilian aviation enumerated?
James,
While I don’t proclaim to be a Constitutional scholar such as yourself, I believe Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the authority to regulate commerce between nations and states and this governs highways and aviation. I have a question for you. Where is the federal power to provide for publicly funded education?
Where is the federal power to have the federal Reserve regulate the monetary supply?
Where is the federal power to engage in international treaties or international courts that have supranational powers that dictate our laws without the consent of the governed?
They’ve found Beck’s mug shot from 1990.
http://imgur.com/VDXdS.png
As for the enumerated powers: where is the federal power to build highways or supervise civilian aviation enumerated?
Again I agree with fraudulent Madison. The federal government shouldn’t be doing these things.
Where does it say that the government should develop the internet in the Constitution?
Where does it say the Government should manufacture toilet paper? We all need toilet paper! If you leave it up to private enterprise, each piece will be $10 and made of ground up whales!
My point, EOS, is that many necessary activities of government are not specified in the constitution, and that a modern dogmatism, shorn of all knowledge of actual constitutional history and practice, blinds some people to the main virtue of the US constitution: it’s flexibility. There are plenty of general clauses in the constitution that can be interpreted to permit nearly anything the government may wish to undertake — or to prohibit them. It all depends on who controls the government, doesn’t it? Fortunately, we wrote a constitution designed to protect property and property holders, and it’s done that pretty well. The General Welfare clause of the preamble permits, indeed encourages, a lot more active government.
Please note that neither I nor any of the Founders are making a constitutional argument against government power being used for publicly defined purposes. We in 1787 created a national government of great powers, something that the so called conservatives of 2009 fail to understand. True conservatives are not so anti-government, for government is the necessary method for establishing order. And only with order can property be secured.
Fraudulent James Madison once again butchers the prevailing philosophy of the founders for his own modern progressive purposes. This is getting old.
Another lesson in revisionist History from academia.
The Constitution can be legally changed by amendments. It was designed to constrain the Federal government, not to be distorted by any officeholder to suit their personal preferences.
This is getting old.
Who the hell is Glenn Beck?
I am just really liking those water quality monitoring legs.
I am so sorry to interrupt.
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