The _______ festival

I’ve been asked by Erik Dotzauer, the Executive Director of Depot Town’s Community Development Corporation (CDC), to tell everyone that the CDC board has decided to capitulate, and drop the offending “Ypsitucky” from the name of the September 4-5 roots music festival to be held here in Ypsi. What’s more, I’ve been asked to solicit new name suggestions from you, the readers of I hesitate to think what some of you may offer up, given the heated feelings on both sides of this ridiculous debate, but, in the spirit of coming together and working things out, I thought that I should stop with the muckraking and just agree. So, have at it in the comments section.

And, here, for those who are interested in the specifics, is Dotzauer’s official statement on the matter:

Ypsilanti, MI (June 10, 2009) – The Depot Town Community Development Corporation, a non-profit organization would like to announce that the name “Ypsitucky Jamboree” will not be used in conjunction with the upcoming music festival in Riverside Park this summer. The name of the festival has initiated a conversation within the community about the word “Ypsitucky”, and we listened to parties that strongly supported and opposed the use of the term. The DTCDC Board is committed to enhancing the quality of life for the Ypsilanti area. We believe this festival will be a great community building event, and dropping the name is in our best interest in serving the community. The DTCDC would like the community to help us in selecting a new name… The DTCDC will choose a new name for the event by June 14…

And, before any voting takes place, I want to make it clear that I was just kidding when I suggested in a previous post that we call it the Blandsilanti Vanilla Fest. My real suggestion is:

The Ypsilanti Memorial Concert (for our brave Appalachian ancestors who were brought as slaves to Michigan in the 1940s)

OK, sorry, that was a joke too. How about one of these:

the Michigan Roots Festival
the Death by Banjo Festival
the Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken
Ypsilanti Critterfest (we include lots of muskrat and opossum eating)
Why is Black Jake Boycotting this Festival Festival
the Hasil Adkins Will Return Gospel Revival

OK, I’m out of ideas. Here, in hopes that it will motivate your brains to think, is some video of the late Mr. Adkins.

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  1. Suzie
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    lol. Okay, attempting to remain serious.
    I like:
    the Michigan Roots Festival
    the Death by Banjo Festival
    the Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken
    Ypsitucky Jamboree
    Ypsilanti Jamboree
    Ypsi Bluegrass Fest
    Big rock candy ypsilanti (where the lemonade springs & the bluebird sings!) (and think of the potential candy merch tie-ins from The Rocket!) (OMG candy watertowers FTW!!!)

    Okay, sorry, losing seriousness, I’ll sign off…

  2. ageless
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    here are my suggestions…

    Ypsibama Jamboree (you can say it’s named after Obama not Alabama)
    The Itsy Bitsy Ypsi Jamboree (only midget musicians need apply)
    The Kentuckalanti Jamboree
    The Double Plus Good Audio Presentation Festival
    The Psitucky Yay amboree Jay

  3. publius
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Ypsi-Turky Jamboree. You could sell turkey legs like they do at Renaissance Festivals.

    The Brave Huron Jamboree.

    The Raspberry Jam-Boree.

  4. Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    The I’m a Carnie and hope we are playing the Festival Festival

  5. Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Remembering what the wife of a mayoral candidate and former editor of an A2 publication once said when asked what she thought of Mark Maynard’s Blog …

    The DTCDC could call it …

    The All Bloggers Are Idiots Music Festival of 2009.

    But my vote would be for …

    The Ypsilanti Roots Music Festival


    Steve Pierce

  6. What's In a Name
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    I vote for the Ypsitucky Jamboree

    (What happens if the Ypsitucky Jamboree gets the most votes?)

  7. Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink


    I vote for:

    A)The Kentuckilanti Jamboree
    B)The Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken
    C)The Ypsilanti Varmint (or Critter) Fest

    The “Why is Black Jake Boycotting this Festival Festival” and the “The Double Plus Good Audio Presentation Festival” also drew laughs from me, but those three are my serious ones.

    I’d offer “The Depot Town Reconstruction,” but that may be going a bit too far in several directions.

    I look forward to promoting this event from the stage at the Top of the Park and the Ark.

  8. amused1
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Considering that the event will be held next to the river my first thought was:

    Ypsilanti’s Riparian Roots Music Festival

    Upon further consideration though, I find I prefer:

    The Riverside Roots Music Festival

  9. Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    The Ypsilanti Roots Music Festival and Ypsilanti Jamboree would both be fine choices.

    You’re a good sport Black Jake…When are you playing the Ark?

  10. Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    I like Riverside Roots amused…

  11. Joanne
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Maybe reuse the previous name of the former festival held at Frog Island, if it’s at Frog Island, and call it the Frog Island Music Festival. Or:

    Ypsilanti’s FestiFall
    Ypsilanti’s FolkFest
    Ypsilanti’s Downtown Music Fest
    Downtown Bluegrass Jamboree

    And I like Ypsi Bluegrass Fest as mentioned by Suzie.

  12. Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    I vote for

    Ypsilanti Bluegrass
    Ypsilanti Greengrass

    Some Anagrams of Ypsitucky Jamboree…

    Yucky Pits Jamboree
    Bakery Society Jump
    Pure Joystick, Maybe
    Beauty, Myopic Jerks
    You Basic Empty Jerk
    Pry My Beauties, Jock
    Eric Key Jumbo Patsy

    I am partial to a few of these… the last one struck me as odd.

  13. Shania Twin
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    I’ve known a few cities that thought they were pretty smart
    But Ypsi’s got being right down to an art
    You think you’re a genius-you drive me up the wall
    You’re a regular cool city, a know-it-all
    Oh-oo-oh, you think you’re special
    Oh-oo-oh, you think you’re something else
    That don’t impress me much…

  14. Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Anagram Ypsitucky Jamboree

    Erik my cute job pays
    Yep cut my job as Erik

    – Steve

  15. A. Nonymous
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Huron Hootenanny / Hootenanny by the Huron?
    Frog Island Gig?
    Ypsilanti Jamboree?

  16. Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    I don’t like the Roots Music Festival one. Seems so academic.

  17. Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    You’re a good sport Black Jake…When are you playing the Ark?

    July 25th with Frontier Ruckus.

  18. jorj
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Geez Steve. Kinda being a jerk there, aren’tcha?

  19. Jim
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    I like ‘Ypsi Jamboree’ because you could still use all the existing publicity designs and materials–just add a black box to cover the shameful ‘-tucky.’

    BTW, according to Martin J. Packer’s _Changing Classes_, Ypsilanti used to celebrate Kentucky Day. Anyone remember that?

  20. jorj
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    I vote for the Ypsitucky Jamboree.

  21. Zardoz
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Ypsi Hillbilly Revival

  22. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    I love how Steve made himself look like a such dick about it within seconds! Hahaha!

  23. cocksway
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Ashamed of Our Roots Music Festival.


    Skeletons in the Closet Festival.


    Ypsiyuppie Damnboring.


    Orphan Car Show.


    Heritage Festival.


    Another Event for the Same People but this time with Music.

  24. Bob DeNiro
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    The Jerkwater Deathrattle
    Rust Bucket Rendezvous
    The Fiddling Nero Conflagration

  25. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    I vote for the “Ypsi Jamboree,” and for just putting a red “X” through the “tucky” on all the promo stuff.

  26. It's Snuff
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    How about the “David Ware Memorial Concert”?

    Jim, excellent source of what “Ypsitucky” meant to Kentuckians. Thanks. I’m surprised all our resident historians (aka Higbee or Pierce) didn’t mention that one?

    Amazing, those Kentuckians, who can be kidnapped to work in the factories but manage to still celebrate their heritage in their strange new land.

  27. Mad Maxine
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    Thankfully, Ypsi has the council, the YHRC and good citizen clarks to “do everything humanly possible aaah to ban this thing and ahh to stop it aaah…”.

    Shadow Ypsitucky Festival.

    Easily done.

    Ypsi needs to shadow itself.

  28. FriarTucky
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    I vote for Ypsitucky Bluegrass Jamboree. I just thought of the name; you take the words “Ypsilanti” and “Kentucky” and then mash them together. What you get is the word “Ypsitucky”, which seems like a cool name for a bluegrass festival in a city named Ypsilanti. Right?..

  29. Ernie
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Has ayone yet compiled a list of who was so vehemently against the -tucky?

    Maybe we should work on that first, and add the current members of City Council to the list of people to peacefully but vehemently oppose in the future.

  30. Sloppy Eggs
    Posted June 10, 2009 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    How about the:

    Martha Stewart has Bought Ypsilanti Festival.

  31. Luke Bison
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    I’m trying to be open minded but even I think the Thursday night cruise nightsare starting to go a bit too far.

  32. Dee Taylor
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    I think this puts it in a nutshell.

    Ya’ll made some bad, bad, bad, stupid, pants down exposing choices.

    Now you got to wake up to it.

    No sense of humor. No sense of community. Just faux lace.

    The beautiful thing is Ypsi is still fucking stupid crazy. Keep proving it. Makes no sense. But you’re all dead as shit. Your friends hate you. Makes the town alive. Another immense fuck up. Thank god.

    Stupid lives. Long live stupid.

    Keeping on fucking blind.

    Keep failing.


    Keep being the best at what you’re best at.

    Thank gods that Ypsi didn’t find a way to prosperity.

    Then it’d be fucked.

    Our dysfunction is our junction.

  33. Patrick
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 1:54 am | Permalink

    “Totally Nautical Fest” has a nice ring to it …

  34. Dirtgrain
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    I like these three:
    the Death by Banjo Festival
    the Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken
    The Double Plus Good Audio Presentation Festival

    I’ll add:
    The We’re Not Necessarilly Racists Music Festival
    Ypsilanti Stone Soup

  35. amused1
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    When you go to a concert or show or gig or whatever you want to call it, if you get there early enough very often the first thing you hear is a bunch of squawking, clashing, banging and disharmony. You hear it and you think “OMG, what kind of a mess have I gotten myself into?” It’s the group warming up, tuning up, working out the kinks, getting their instruments ready to play. It can sound like madness. But once the seeming madness is over and the playing begins it can be all the better for having had the warm up.

    The bands to be featured are likely to be made up of members who are passionate, opinionated, smart, funny, sarcastic, compassionate, driven, proud, sometimes disappointed with choices that have been made. Very much like our community. But at the end of it all they rise together to create something wonderful as a group. Should we offer less when it comes to getting this festival off the ground?

    Erik, through Mark, has asked for constructive feedback. So maybe, possibly, please, could we just say that the warm up is over? The time for disharmony has past. Let’s move on to the business of helping make great music happen. If for no other reason, let’s do so because the musicians deserve it.

    Oh, and Cousin Geoff, thanks for your vote of support.

  36. elviscostello
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    Woodruff’s Grove Roots Festival

  37. Megan
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    I for one was never offended by “YpsiTucky”. I like Ypsilanti and i like Kentucky. However, that being said, i do believe that “Ypsitucky” has a certain trailer trash ring to it that we don’t need. For that matter, here are my suggestions.

    Yspi Bluegrass Festival
    Kentucky Heritage Festival

  38. Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    I like “Frog Island Gig”, “Huron Hootenanny”, and “YpsiXXXXX Jamboree” (with “tucky” X-ed out or otherwise redacted). I also agree with Black Jake about “Riverside Roots Music Festival” and “Ypsilanti Roots Music Festival” sounding too academic.

  39. Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    What about the Rustbelt Roots Revival?

  40. FestForTheRestOfUs
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    How about Ypsi Jamboree?


    Ypsi***** Jamboree

  41. amused1
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    How about

    “Ypsi’s Roots Rockin’ Roll by the River”

  42. Dan
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    How about the “Our Misery is Proof of Steve Pierce’s Power” fest?

  43. Posted June 11, 2009 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    I like “The Huron Hootenanny” pretty well.

    I hope The Ypsitucky Colonels will still be allowed to play and will still be allowed at The Crossroads Festival in August as well. They are great band even if they are racists…

    -Jeremy Baldwin

  44. dp in exile
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    I vote for redacting the “tucky” on the existing and future promotional materials & seek a motion of consensus from the “idiot bloggers” on to do just that. Perhaps we could all sit on the floor in the gallery of the Riverside Arts Center and have a coloring party?

    I’ll volunteer to show up with some sharpies to help purge and cleanse the wrongs of otherwise creative minds. ;-)

  45. Christine M
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    I don’t actually know anyone in our neighborhood of Ypsi who is from Kentucky. How about the YpsiSillies?

  46. Suzie
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    The Fiddling Nero Conflagration — hilarious! And a great name for a band, too.

    I do like:
    Woodruff’s Grove Roots Festival (but too obscure?)
    Rustbelt Roots Revival – perhaps my favorite at the moment, because I can see it becoming a destination music fest.
    Huron Hootenanny
    Riverside (something something, insert your favorite noun here- Jamboree, Hootenanny, Fest, etc etc )

    DP, I’m in for bringing sharpies to a coloring party. (Aren’t you no longer in exile?)

  47. Sam
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Hey, what the deal? The name a Ypsitucky Jamboree and the festival got approved Monday night by Ypsilanti Township to go in Gyro Park .

  48. John Gawlas
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Remember that no good deed goes unpunished.

    Keep Ypsilanti in the name. I vote for…

    Ypsilanti Jamboree
    Ypsi Jamboree
    Gypsaplenty Jamboree (going with another historical pejorative)

  49. West Cross
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Kind of Sterile but I think Ypislanti Jamboree is best.

    Lets you know where it is and gets the name out there. I like the idea of crossing out the “tucky” in the old logo but leaving it so you could still see it, probably not enough for the complainers though.

    Bluegrass Festival is too specific since it sounds like it won’t be just bluegrass (unfortunately) and I agree Roots festival sounds really lame and overly PC.

  50. YpsiNichs
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    I just don’t get enough opportunities to say the word hootenanny or wear a t-shirt with it printed on it.

    My vote is for Huron Hootenanny.

    my secondary choice – the Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken – also funny and a big f-u to city council.

  51. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Ok, like amused said, we need to pick a name and get on with the festival. We can get back to polital-line-bickering September 6. (or as soon as we’re done here)
    My vote; please don’t call it the Ypsilanti __________ fest. We are still tring to raise money here, and we want to genterate interest in a music fest, not just another civic event (Ann Arbor Folk Fest, Taylor Blues Fest, Trenton Jazz Fest) So, from a promotion point of view, I vote for.

    Riverside Jamboree.

    It’s a brand, we keep part of the name, and we avoid looking like another moldy civic event. See you all there.

  52. Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Out of curiosity, who’s going to end up getting the money that we performers are going to draw in, now that the local political fiefdom boundaries have been redrawn? Brian Robb says the City has double the funds for the parks now, so what’s the point of the money going to the parks?

  53. tommy
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Although the best name to me to this point is the Rustbelt Roots Revival, I will propose another – The Ann Arbor Bluegrass Jamboree. Anything of value from Ypsi is copped by Ann Arbor anyway. Ypsi Marriott, St Joe’s, Iggy Pop, etc.

    Goes with my whole line of thinking that Ypsi proper should just be called East Ann Arbor. Every city that want’s to be big time, needs a ‘bad part of town’ – Ypsi fits the bill. Too bad railroad tracks don’t separate the two.

  54. tommy
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Forgot one – How about just a symbol like Prince did a decade or so ago when his name no longer fit?

    Or take the route of Sean Puffy Combs.

    Ypsialnti Jamboree to Y Jam to J Yiddy to Yiddy to Yeasy in the Heasy, which makes the name totally irrelevant – kind of like the relevance of a migration that took place 60 years ago, has made Ypsi what it is today, and now offends. What was wrong with Ypsitucky Jamboree again?

  55. publius
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    I think you need to have bluegrass in the name.

    Riverside Bluegrass Festival

  56. tim
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    I like:

    indY Jamboree
    Riverside (branding it like Rothbury)
    Frog Island Festival
    Huron River Hoe-Down
    Smeet Slam

  57. Michael S
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    So the tale of kidnapped slaves being brought to Michigan in the forties to work in the factories was never supported with any documentation whatsoever?

    I believe the originator wanted to arrange the meeting so he could whisper in Mark’s ear,

    “It is all an urban legend.” (Or maybe a rural legend would be a more accurate description.)

    In honor of Ypsi’s phallic water tower, a tagline for the festival could be,

    “The Brick Dick Hicks lay out the Licks” (With “Licks” of course referring to what they do with their musical instruments.)

    I wouldn’t put “roots” in the title because it conjures up images of that old tv series with all those black people in it and the “big deal” they made about slavery – which is not exactly something some of descendants of the Appalachians who yearn for the “good ol’ days”, want to be reminded of.

  58. JC Miller
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Kentuckilanti Jamboree should get some serious consideration, but Rustbelt Roots Revival has a nice ring to it. I too vote “bluegrass” be stricken from the name.

  59. hot karl
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    the Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken

  60. Follow the Money
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Somweone mentioned above where will the money go??

    Where will the money go?

  61. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    If you look at the tenative schedule, only a few bands are really blue grass or folk, there are also a couple world music and dance bands and possibly even a gospel choir. The whole point of the original name, to me, was that it gave it a southern, rootsy feel, but was ambiguous (sp) about what type of music is played. Again, I vote to give it a great, promotable name that doesnt’ make it sound like another civic festival or pigion hole it as a certain type of music. Thanks, all

  62. Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for the suggestions and keep em coming! To Jake, the money will still be going ot benefit the parks. We are doing the Jamboree to benefit the area and put back into our great community. Let me tell you how excited I am to move past the name and redirect peoples focus to this great event. Every day more and more great things are happening for us. Thank you again for all the passion and time you have spent either supporting or opposing the name.

    Now that we have made the choice to alter the name, I hope that those who were “all about a roots music festival in Ypsilanti, we just dont like the name” are going to prove that they are in fact supporting the idea, and will show it by promotion, ticket sales and partnering with the great people of the CDC. Show your true colors!

    Thanks again all. We look forward to seeing you at the “Why is Black Jake Boycotting this Festival Festival” (sorry, it made me laugh pretty hard)

    Don Sicheneder
    Director of the Jamboree
    website for the time being…

  63. Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    I say we just call it “Robert”.

  64. 2cents
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    How about Ypsilanti Hootenanny? Have a good ring to it.

  65. Scott K
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Frog Island Fiddle Fest
    YpsiGrits Bluegrass & Burbon Festival (still enjoying my local burbon purchases from vacation in Kentucky last year)

    I briefly had thought of boycotting as well but the actions of the city’s council/administration just isn’t worth the effort to complain about anymore until re-election time. Why hurt the efforts of those interested in the well being of the city with low attendance.

    I wonder if the Heritage Festival committee would be opposed to re-naming their event–Ypsitucky Heritage Festival

  66. tommy
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Good point Mr. Sicheneder in wanting to keep the money in the community. That’s why all should remember to Eat in (at?) the ‘Y’ while attending the festival.

  67. kyle
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Sorry if these were already posted. My attention span waned.
    I agree with 2cents,
    Ypsilanti Hootenanny
    Ypsi Bluegrass Jamboree

  68. Jane Brown
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    We should rename the Festival, its about time. How about ,
    ” Southern Roots Festival ” or ” Southern Deep Roots Festival “

  69. Aaron
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Ypsilanti Hillbilly Ho-down !

  70. Posted June 11, 2009 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Don.

    Not to be a further pain in the ass, but…

    I still don’t get why the money is going to the parks since City Council is taking them over and they have $20,000 to spend on them, which supposedly is twice as much as the CDC spent.

    I don’t get why I should be excited to fetch extra money for something that’s already got more than enough. That makes no sense. Might as well give the money for something that actually needs it, seems to me.

    So what, exactly, do the parks need these proceeds for, out of curiosity?

  71. BrianR
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 1:37 pm | Permalink


    The money goes to the DTCDC. It’s their event. It’s their money.

  72. Posted June 11, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    So who’s in charge of paying for the parks now? I’m lost.

  73. BrianR
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    The City.

  74. Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Don and Brian, for being patient with my slow, childlike comprehension. I hope no one takes my questioning personally, it’s just that I’m either totally fixated on something or I have the attention span of a flea, to the point of forgetting my own lyrics on stage if I start thinking about something else. I’m also easily confused by events around me that everyone else seems to understand.

    So why is the DTCDC giving the money from this event to you guys for the parks?

  75. Pat Caudill
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Celebration of Southern Heritage

  76. BrianR
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I don’t believe they are.

    At the last Council meeting, the DTCDC was given 45 days notice of the termination of the memoranda of understanding with the City.

    I hate to derail a discussion of the name with this discussion. If you want to sit down or email me about this, please do.

  77. Curt Waugh
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    The This Inspired Three or Four Fucking Posts on

    Elvis Fest Wasn’t White Enough-itucky Fest


    The Please Don’t Look at Our Financial Black Hole on the Other Side of Michigan Avenue Roots Festival at Riverside

    Appeasement-o-Rama ’09

  78. Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Aha. Now I don’t get who or what we’re supposed to be trying to raise money for or celebrating at all. I don’t mind if it’s raising funds to benefit a private organization, just so long as I know what’s going on. Anyone else know what’s going on?

    How about the Clustertucky Conniption Fest?

  79. Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:28 pm | Permalink


    Feel free to contact me if you’d like to discuss things in detail. The city passed a resolution a week ago that took away the DTCDC’s authority to operate and manage the parks that will begin in just over a month. Any private organization has the ability to hold an event in the parks. The DTCDC would like council to reconsider, but will continue to operate regardless and all the money raised will be reinvested back into the community. That includes the parks.

    The money the city set aside is to cut the grass. If you go down to the parks, you’ll notice that we do a lot more than that. Like the new dock, wireless internet, painting all the fixtures (we are planning on painting the pavilion in 2 weeks), programming, marketing, etc. If we are not permitted to operate the parks in the future, we will continue to invest in them through improvements, like we did before the DTCDC assumed operations. We spearheaded the effort to bring in the new lights in Riverside and put our money on the table along with other partners.

    Jake – you point out that the city is planning to spend nearly twice as much to operate the parks as the DTCDC, which is a little misleading. Here’s why – first, it costs the city nearly twice as much to cut the grass as the DTCDC, which shows how the private sector can often do jobs more efficiently than municipal governments. Also, that $10,000 doesn’t include costs such as insurance, improvements, auditing, administration and other costs relating to the parks operation. I do know that my board is passionate about investing in Ypsilanti, and if we’re not wanted to operate the parks, we will still continue to invest in them. The DTA and DTCDC have a long history of raising funds to invest in the community, often using our money for the matching funds in grants that the city cannot supply.

    I encourage anyone who has seen improvements over the past year to write to your city council members and mayor. And the same goes for anyone who thinks we’re doing a poor job. Tell them if you want the city or the DTCDC running the parks.

    Anyways, we have a festival to plan. I’m not going to worry about things that are out of our control.

    Keep the names coming. Our heads hurt from thinking too much!

    Erik Dotzauer
    Executive Director
    Depot Town CDC

  80. Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Erik.

  81. John on Forest
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    I commend the DTCDC Board, including Erik, Don, and Andy. I know this was a wrenching decision on your part. I am particularly proud of the very positive attitude you are taking now as you go forth with what everyone hopes will be a hugely successful festival.

    I know there will be people at the festival with “ypsitucky” t-shirts, buttons and the like. I doubt I can say anything to dissuade you from this action, even though it would be insensitive to those who are offended by it. The DTCDC hoped to put a positive connotation on the word, so if any are intent on wearing t-shirts, I implore you to make t-shirts that clearly make an effort to uplift the name, not pick the scabs of old wounds.

    Now my suggestions/votes for names:

    I like the “Riverside” branding idea.

    Huron River Hoe Down also has a nice ring.

    Something with “Southern Heritage” in it might be good, if not pedestrian.

    Riverside Jamboree – Celebrating the Music of Our Southern Heritage.

    For levity’s sake: The Not Ypsitucky Jamboree.

  82. The Good Doctor
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Hey Erik,
    Isn’t some of that money going into your salary? What about those $4,000 lunch and the yet to be proven White Slave Trade?

  83. Prawn Belly
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Remember when all those people like Gary Clark said that they’d happily be out selling tickets for the event if it were just named something different? I wonder how many they’ll sell?

  84. Andy C
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    “Pickin’ in the Park”


    “The Ypsilanti Old Timey Roots Revival Bluegrass and Folk Music Hootenanny Jamboree and Festival”

  85. CC
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Jake, I think you just got asked to one of Councilman Robb’s secret “Transparency” meetings. Congratulations. It’s just too bad that you won’t be able to talk about what you hear there.

  86. Lampert
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    “The Ypsilanti Handwringathon”

    “Who’s That Douche on a Segway Fest”

    “I Think This Might Offend Black People Fest”

    “Let’s Pretend We’re Ann Arbor Fest”

    “Bedroom Community Yawnathon”

  87. Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    My question exactly, Prawn Belly. I had the pleasure of conversation with Mr. Clark at the last City Council meeting. I feel his heart is in the right place, and I do hope that not only Gary, but each of the folks that were opposed to the name get beyond any ill feelings and help move to make this event a success. Time will tell, but I am hopeful. Arent we all in it for the same reasons?

    The one thing I heard that was very difficult to swallow, besides Mr. Robb’s ill advised humor marginalizing the hours, volunteer time and committment to the city that so many young professionals have put in with the CDC, is that business owners actually stood up and said that they didnt want any of the commerce that would result in bringing people into the great city of Ypsilanti via the Jamboree. I have been involved in the area since 1996, and have seen many businesses come and go. My committment is to support local, shop local and visit all local businesses no matter what side of Michigan Ave they are on. As a business man, I cannot imagine how a business owner in a tough economy would shun aways 1000 s of people who may never had the pleasure of visiting Ypsilanti and not open their doors and invite them in whole heartedly. I hope once the Jamboree is here, perspectives will have changed and they would adopt the type of hospitality that we are building the Jamboree to have. Once again, time will tell. I spend my time and money in Ypsilanti and couldnt care less about the politics. I leave that to city hall. I am out and about and would invite anyone to stop me and say hi. Thanks again all! I cant wait until September 4th and 5th.

    More names please!

    Don Sicheneder

  88. Hobbs
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    How does the city now have the money to take care of the parks when they didn’t last year? I don’t understand this.

    If the city does have money for the parks, why aren’t we using that money for cops and firefighters? I’d rather have Depot Town taking care of the parks, and they city paying for cops.

  89. Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:21 pm | Permalink


    I posted on the last thread addressing those questions that Brian Robb raised. Here you go:

    I’ll start by addressing the question raised about spending $4,000 on dining expenses. Yes, the DTCDC spent over 4k on dining over the course of a year. Here’s the breakdown. When the DTCDC assumed operations of the parks, we had a “welcome reception” and invited community leaders and partners to attend to explain the purpose and goals of the DTCDC. Of the 4k, almost half was spent on this event. The DTCDC Board meets once a month for our board meetings over lunch. We have 5 board members plus myself (and occasionally an intern). On average, I’d say the typical bill is around $70 including tip. We also try to schedule most of our meetings with committees and volunteers over lunch, which is generally more convenient for them. And yes, we feel it is appropriate to pick up the tab when we host people working to help us out. Need more examples? We coordinate a park clean up day every year that brings in about 70 people to keep the parks looking nice. Guess what – we buy them all pizza and drinks. Hope that’s okay.

    And yes, some of the money we raise does go into my salary ($40,000 with no benefits). But that number is not reflected in the $10,000 that Brian referenced. We project spending (assuming we still operate the parks) over $38,000 from June through October on operations. And we only expect to generate $5,000 – $6,000 in revenue from event fees. We make up the difference from the events we hold and other fundraising efforts.

    Here is the contact info for council if anyone is interested:

    Paul Schreiber

    Mayor Pro-Tem
    S.A. Trudy Swanson-Winston, Ward 1

    Council Members
    Lois Richardson, Ward 1

    Michael Bodary, Ward 2

    William Nickels, Ward 2

    Peter Murdock, Ward 3

    Brian Robb, Ward 3

  90. Kathryn
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    FWIW emailing Lois Richardson is about as affective as writing to Santa c/o the North Pole.

  91. Megan
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    omg, Kathryn, SO TRUE!

  92. Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Stone Bone Jamboree – I can’t take credit for the stone bone but I love it – that was the mayor’s brain child although he wasn’t exactly suggesting it be attached to the festival…

  93. Posted June 11, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    LOL, I love all the names… some of them made me laugh out loud. And I was struck by how many riff on our southern heritage without any -tucky suffix at all. My fave is Rustbelt Roots Revival. Outre and yet not offensive.

  94. Billy Bill
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Ypsitucky Jamboree…..and if that’s not what it’s called you can forget a HUGE local population from spending money in Depot Town ever again.

    I know I won’t…my family won’t…my friends won’t….their friends won’t…

  95. Bruce Mannheim
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    How ’bout “Roots North”?

  96. Suzanne Copsey
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    How about the Ypsilanti Hootenanny?

  97. James
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    We got two.
    P.C.J.=Politically Correct Jamboree
    W.G.W.-Woodruff’s Grove Wahoo

  98. Valerie
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    How about the Ypsilanti Hootenanny!

  99. Larry & Carol Oakes
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    “Ypsitucky” is usually used as a put down to those who live in Ypsilanti. We’ve never heard it used in a positive manner. This music event sounds like a very fun- filled positive event. Here’s a few trys at the name.

    Pick’n & Grinn”n Jamboree
    Southern Roots Jamboree
    Americana South Jamboree

  100. Kripen
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    So if the parks get any money will somebody fix the swings in Prospect Park? They’re about 6 feet off the ground.

    YpsiXXXXX Jamboree

  101. Carol
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:45 pm | Permalink


    How about:

    Southern Fried Jambo

    or merely

    Ypsi Jamb09

  102. gee gee
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    My suggestion for a new name is: Front Porch Jamboree or simply: Mountain Music Jamboree.

  103. Prudence Barnabei
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    I would like to submit the name: Ypsilanti’s Southland Jamboree

  104. Becky
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    I love Ypsi and I hope we don’t prove anything by being anything but the wonderful get real normal people that Ypsi is full of.
    How about Ypsi Music Fest–
    Most people that don’t know Ypsi mispronounce it anyway.

  105. D
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Festival of Putting On Airs And Wearing a Uniform

    We Ain’t Tennessee Neither Jamboree

    Southern Roots Festival (only if the root rhymes with soot)

    And please hire the Ypsitucky Colonels to play the festival.

  106. j. taylor
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    How about simple-
    Ypsi Music Fest,
    Ypsi Music Festival

  107. ypsineighbor
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Maybe the DTCDC should look into the Depot Town parking lot and clean it up. On the day I attended the Ypsilanti Symphony Orchestra’s Concert at Riverside Park, I stepped out of my car onto a used condom and stinking garbage was spread all over by the dumpsters. Many concert goers had to pass this mess, while parking and crossing the Tridge to Riverside. I was embarrassed. It looked bad again on Saturday morning at the Farmers Market too. Clean it up…

  108. dan
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Oh Steve Pierce, everybody knows you’re ypsineighbor and ypsilistener. Only you could be such a pandering sap and still take yourself seriously.

  109. ypsineighbor
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Pardon me, I am an Eastside woman. I gave important feedback and I resent your insinuation you know me. I support anything and everything Ypsi and have since I moved here in 1975. Do not presume you know me. Is it any wonder the number of “Anonymous” responses on this blog considering the nasty factor.

  110. tommy
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to everyone for a day of laughter. I had to stop reading at work, and the thread has just gotten better – Huron River Hoe Down? Come on John on Forest. Everyone know that the ho’s and the Johns are down on Michigan Avenue! Thank you Curt Waugh for the bringing up the Elvisfest (a tucky if there ever was one) , and Lampert for the douche bag reference – golden!

    Keep them coming. Mark, I will be incredibly disappointed if I don’t see something with ‘tucky on it being peddled at the next Shadow Art Fair!

  111. dan
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    I am an Eastside woman. I gave important feedback and I resent your insinuation you know me. I support anything and everything Ypsi and have since I moved here in 1975. Do not presume you know me.

    Well I am an Eastside woman who’s supported everything Ypsi since I moved here in 1961, and I say you’re full of malarky, Steve Pierce.

    I say we call it the Ypsisappy Pander Party.

  112. Susan
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Lots of sniffly whiners here. If you don’t understand why “Ypsitucky” is offensive, I’m not sure you’d understand the explanation.

    How about we try to build community rather than tear it down?

    I suggest using the name Ypsilanti. You may not realize how unique it is, since you live here. But there’s only one that I’m aware of. Suggestions:


    Ypsilanti Music Festival

    I’m sorry y’all think the town’s name is “boring.” Why don’t you go to Hell?

  113. Mike Starwas
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    My question is: How many of these “respondents” actually have any long-term ties to: Ypsilanti, Ypsi,Ypsitucky? My family goes back to the mid 1930’s. My Father was asst Coach at YHS under Christie Wilson about 1938. With the opening of the Willow Run Plant, building B24’s, he became an instructor for engine maintenance. His younger bros., Frank and Ed. were students at YHS, Ed joined the Marines and was seriously wounded at Guam. He was with “F” Co., 2ndBn., 9th Marine Reg. during the battle for Fonte Ridge, a pivotal point for the battle of Guam.

    Frank was too young to enlist, but worked at Willow Run for the duration.
    Both were exceptional athletes for YHS (the BRAVES!).

    One of my Father’s greatest disappointments was being unable to join the military, he was deemed ineligible because of his position as an instructor.
    My Father became a business-owner, developer and again, a teacher with Ypsi Public Schools @ E. Jr. High.

    If it weren’t for the influx of “Southernors” about 1942, Ypsi would not have become the city it is now. It’s heritage lies with the “tuckians”! How can you naive people take it as an insult?

    Give those folks and their descendants, that came to Ypsilanti to work in the “bomber plant” and went on to work for Kaiser-Frazier, G.M. and Ford the respect that they are due!


    Mike Starwas

  114. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    The great thing is, Susan, you guys can strong arm the DTCDC into compliance, but you have no power over the rest of us.


  115. Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the comment, Mike. As a Kentuckian by birth, I appreciate it. And I agree wholeheartedly. Our community’s roots aren’t something to be embarrassed of, they’re something to be embraced.

  116. Posted June 11, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    And, about 50 comments back, someone mentioned that, because of this name change, they weren’t going to patronize Depot Town businesses from now on. I’d just like to say, in defense of the businesses there, that several of them didn’t want to see the name of the festival changed. Some of them fought it, but, after a point it became futile. I would have done the same thing. Once race got into it, and people started saying that the “tucky” suffix was racist, there was no more room for debate… Anyway, regardless of everything else, Sidetrack and Aubree’s still make kickass burgers and they deserve your money regardless of what side they may have been on in this particular fight.

  117. argonot
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Yeah Billy Bill — Depot Town’s okay, just don’t shop downtown, buy a house in the city proper, or rent from the Maurers if you want to boycott anyone.

  118. Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    My mamma taught me to never let the bastards get you down.

    Fellow folks who identify with the term Ypsitucky for whatever reason — we need to go to this fest whose name must not be spoken and own it.

    I will if you will.

  119. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    I’m so glad that this thread is here so we can all continue to nitpick on what name is offensive to who for another week or two. I think we should keep it going so we can continue to look foolish to people all over the state for a little while longer. Maybe I’m just a bit jaded at this point, but as an outspoken tucky supporter I want to say, please, DTCDC, can we please choose a name and get on with it? We’ve got a lot of work to do….

  120. Posted June 11, 2009 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if folks at the CDC might actually consider calling it The Festival Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken.

  121. Mike Starwas
    Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    Does the phrase “politically correct” mean anything to: Black Jake, Susan? “Ypsitucky” IS NOT RACIST….get over that crap! If you ever visited Willow Village in the 50’s or early 60’s, you would be aware that residents were predominantly white, of “Southern” extraction- hence, Ypsituckians!

    I urge you to familiarise yourselves with the history of Ypsilanti (Woodruff’s Grove) to the less than knowledgeable.

  122. Posted June 11, 2009 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    has anyone said

    The YpsiFucking Jamboree


  123. I Heart Ypsitucky
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    How about “Pick’in on Ypsi”?

    I am 30 yrs old, just moved to Ypsi this past year and in no way does Ypsitucky offend me or my family. If this whole deal was going on while I was looking for my new home I would have looked right over Ypsilanti. No way do I agree with the naysayers of the Ypsitucky name.

    I read,, and other local news sites daily and there are much bigger issues than the name Ypsitucky. Such as the fact that I can’t keep my windows open for fear of break ins while I am away.

    Ypsitucky is not offensive unless you let it offend you. It doesn’t hurt your feelings, it embarrasses you. I for one am not embarrassed, I love this city and the people in it. How would you people feel if Louisville, KY had a festival called the Louislanti festival? Outraged? Embarrassed? or you wouldn’t feel that way until a few loud Louisville residents felt that associating Ypsilanti with Louisville was degrading and racist? Does that even make sense to you? I am tired of this issue and I commend Don and Erik for their efforts to make this a great festival with a harmless name.

  124. Sweetiebiggs
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:13 am | Permalink

    How about “The Thinskin Festival”?

  125. Mark H.
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:39 am | Permalink

    For better or worse, this much is a fact: The term ‘ypsitucky’ has been used, at least since 1995 when I first encountered its usage by college students who’d grown up in this county (and I am sure for decades longer than that), to denote areas in Washtenaw Co. where less educated white folks of Appalachian roots were notably hostile to African Americans, and where Blacks were excluded from good housing, the best industrial jobs, and decent schools. I’ve encountered this kind of usage from both white and Black college students and others; it is a commonly accepted meaning of the term. I’m not saying that usage was correct, but it clearly was/is a common usage of the term. That does not mean that the term is necessarily “racist” — it can be purely descriptive. But it rankles many to suggest, even if unintentionally, that all that was/is conveyed by the word ypsitucky is something we should celebrate. Racially defined housing, schools and employment? Celebrate any of that? No thanks.

    The housing that was built for Willow Run workers was racially segregated. Nearly all migrants who worked at Willow Run (with a peak of 40,000 or so workers in 1944 or so) were whites. And any idea that “Ypsitucky” is a generic term for the southern ‘background’ of many people in SE is plainly false, as most Michigan residents with southern roots are African American. The term ypsitucky or taylortucky have specific and unique meanings in the language precisely because of their specific whites-only meaning, as well as because of their (unfair) connotations of these whites being less educated.

    So with all due respect to my friends who may imagine that the term first acquired a racial connotation this spring, that is not true. But I am sure its full range of connotations weren’t known to advocates of the term, and thus the controversy took them by surprise. Likewise, they had no ill intent in picking this name.

    Ypsilantic Roots Music Jambore? Or a name that describes the range of music to be played there? Is there actually a lot of bluegress on the schedule? I love the Ragbirds, but i’d not thought of them as bluegrass. They’re perhaps better called American roots music married to world music. Let all the types of music flower, under a name that unites and describes and thus invites music fans to come on down to the best urban river front park in the county!

  126. Chuck Anderson
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:49 am | Permalink

    YpsiRootsy Jamboree

  127. Carol
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    My parents were born in Michigan and moved to Ypsilanti in 1942. I”ve lived here most of my life. In my experience, the word “Ypsitucky” was commonly used as an insult. I’m against the naming of the festival as “Ypsitucky Jamboree” not only because its usage as a derogatory connotation, but also because it links only those from Kentucky to Ypsilanti’s Southern roots. In my neighborhood there were families from Tennessee as well as from Kentucky – not to mention those from Poland and elsewhere.

    In keeping with the Southern roots theme, which is what the CDC had in mind, it would be more appropriate to give the jamboree a more Southern inclusive title.

    I like Prudencence’s suggestion ” Ypsilanti’s Southland Jamboree” or shorten it to “Ypsi Southland Jamboree.”

  128. Impeach Brian Robb
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    as a ‘constituent’ in Mr. Robb’s ward i am so deeply embarrassed by his behavior. he walks around ‘touting’ that “HE” is an ‘elected official’ meanwhile he has never talked to me, or any of my neighbors – for the 2 1/2 years I have been there.

    What i really want to know is what is BRIAN ROBB doing for the PARKS and for the CITY?

    Look, ‘everyone’ has an opinion and it just doesn’t take any original thought or intelligence to do nothing but criticize another’s way of doing things.

    But i would expect MORE from an ‘elected official’.

    Honestly, city council might get paid a pittance but they get PAID to represent the community and most especially their ward.

    I, for one, would like to see the poll Brian Robb took in our neighborhood that said we were against the city contract with the CDC? If he is an ‘elected official’ representing his constituents…show us the masses that told you they were OK with you cancelling a contract for a non-profit organization to do what you can’t?

    Did he come to anyone else’s house to ask them what their opinion is/was?

    Really – what have you done for the parks? how much fundraising have you personally done for the city?

    which of the big box stores did you solicit to move into Water Street? how much volunteer time did you put into the parks or any other beautification of the city?

    and WHY are you spending ALL of your ‘ELECTED OFFICIAL’ time hiding behind a computer screen criticizing non-profit organizations that are doing what you, and the city can’t?

    you should really be ashamed of yourself. show us the money Mr. Robb.

    show us your resume that shows you are not some whiny, criticizing. negative person that hides behind computer screens but says nothing at public events to any of his constituents?

    show US where your positive energy and effort goes?

    i do have compassion for Mr. Robb as he is a pawn in a bigger political game that keeps Mr. Pierce and Mr. Murdock in the positions they desire.

    the best part about a pawn is that they don’t even know they are a pawn.

    please, stop hiding behind a screen and use up that energy ON THE CITY not your personal issues.

  129. Posted June 12, 2009 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Mike Starwas: I’m completely on your side. I went to city council to try to persuade people to keep the name Ypsitucky. I still want it to be the Ypsitucky Jamboree. You accidently caught me in friendly fire.

  130. Carolina G Gottfried
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Much sound and fury, signifying nothing. But to go forward, how about “YpsiTunes – A Festival of Kentucky-Flavored, Locally-Savored Bluegrass”

  131. Ypsiwhat?
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    Let’s name it after the council: Douchilanti Festival

  132. Posted June 12, 2009 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    I propose:
    The Ypsilanti Real McCoy Jamboree

    Elija McCoy was from Ypsi. The saying is real oldtimey, and what it means is an inside thing that only real Ypsilantians know.

  133. river rat
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    Southern Shame Tour

  134. Kant
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    Mark H. are you arguing that, if a name is associated with racism, that it should never be used again? Are you leading a campaign to change the name of the state of Alabama? I think you’re wrong when you say that Ypsitucky is inherently racist, but, even if I accept your premise, how does that that matter today? By your argument, Germany should have stopped being called Germany after WWII, as it has racist associations. I really don’t think that you’ve thought this through.

  135. Steffetta
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Ok, back to some names. How about:

    The Up North, Down Home Jamboree

    I do love the Ypsilanti Hootenany, too

  136. Gene
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    My Dear Jamboree
    The Sound of Ypsi
    I heart Ypsi
    Hugs and kisses, Ypsi
    Y’all come back now, y’hear?

  137. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Yes! Keep picking at the wound! This thread is accomplishing so much to bring everybody together behind the festival. I mean, continuing to argue about a word is going to get so much accomplished to help our community and our parks, we should just cancel all the events for Riverside and have another Ypsituck Debate. That will surely raise awareness about city issues. Or make us look like fools.

    Really, please, can we start talking about something constructive? Or should we keep up the Rumble of the Wards?

  138. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Here’s a constructive compromise: move forward with the new name (since we no longer can affect that aspect of this), go to the festival so the DTCDC can benefit from this mess somehow (and help improve the parks), then do everything you can, within the law, to punish the overbearing people who forced a name change. Don’t frequent their businesses, don’t rent from them, and don’t vote for them. Make this name change a pyrrhic victory for these petty political bullies. We have the real powah in this town.

  139. Ded Bird
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    So, what’s the process now for picking a winner?

  140. dp in exile
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    I have left a message at the Riverside Arts Center to see about having a coloring party there for those interested in redacting the existing literature. If/when they call me back, I’ll try to see if Erik can bring by posters, letterhead and what not to be properly censored from the virgin eyes of those who have yet to experience or take part in this wonderfully stimulating conversation over free speech, opinions and historical/political inertia.

    Heck, a few folks may get a chance to go to the RAC for the first time. The RAC , after all, resulted in political fights like this whole tucky bother in years past. Gosh I love this town.

    SO… if you like the “YpsiXXXXX Jamboree”, as a name… get your vote in =-)

  141. Gloria
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Ypsilanti Hootenanny!

  142. Michael McIntyre
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    YpsiSouth Music Festival

  143. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    I’m partial to the Ypsilanti Hootenanny now, too.

  144. Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    In the name of Ypsilanti, can we PLEASE stop bickering about the word Ypsitucky?

    It is just a NAME of a festival. The festival is what counts. The people who go and the bands that play. Everyone is taking for granted that this going to happen. I could care less what the name is.

    To suggest the firing of CC members or the boycotting of businesses over this is embarrasing.

    Everyone please take a deep breath, drink a beer, get some fresh air, say hi to a passerby on the street, whatever you need to do, and relax.

    There is going to be a very cool roots festival right here in Riverside Park. Focus on that! I’m tired of the negativity being spread and I’m putting this out here to try to stop it.

    We’re trying to come up with a name for this festival. It won’t be called “Ypsitucky”. It will be called something else. We’re being watched right now, this post/thread was even mentioned on WEMU this morning.

    The name “Ypsitucky” causes conflict so let’s move on. Yes? No big deal, right?

    I’m excited for this festival and grateful to the people who are making it happen. I hope it becomes an annual event and brings us all closer. Cold beer and good music is alright with me. Let’s have fun!

    My favorites are Ypsilanti Hootenany, Huron Hootenany, Riverside Roots Festival, and Ypsilanti Jamboree.

  145. Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    If I had to pick one it would be Ypsilanti Hootenany.

  146. maryd
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Yah, what happened to shopping local???

  147. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Cousin Geof. You’ve got the plan… (even if I still like Riverside Jamboree better)

  148. Shanster
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Ypsi Jamboree gets my vote.

    All those us who wanted the -tucky might just as well go over to the Rutherford Cement Pond, simmer down, and set a spell.

  149. Charlie
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Another vote here for Ypsilanti Hootenany. Great name idea.

  150. Jane
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Ypsilanti Hootenany! It sings.

  151. Jamie
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    I agree we should stop bickering about the name, but no way am I personally going to let those bossy assholes screw everyone so they feel powerful and get off scott free. I for one don’t like anal, especially when I say “no.”

    Ypsilanti Hootenanny.

  152. Michael McIntyre
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Ypsi-Dixie Musical Festival

  153. Michael Bodary
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    I do listen to the arguments and see valid points from both views. I ask everyone to stand back and try to respect each other’s feelings.

    As for the name, “Ypsilanti Hootenany” sure does have a nice ring!

    “Riverside Bluegrass Festival” is #2 for a more traditional name.

  154. Mike Perini
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    This is an awesome thread! I would go for THE YPSITOWN JAMBOREE, or the YPSI TOWN JAMBOREE. It would be close to the rhythm and sound of the original name, without making anyone upset. And if you’ve already printed up items that say Ypsitucky, you can put custom labels saying “town” over them. That could be a classy touch.

    Now we just need someone to write the theme song, “Demetrius Came Down To Ypsi”.

    The Ypsilanti Roots Music Festival is pretty good too.

  155. ypsineighbor
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    I love
    Ypsi-Dixie Music Festival,
    Ypsilanti Hootenanny
    Riverside Bluegrass Festival

  156. Mike G.
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    how about:
    Music Americana: regional roots, bluegrass and folk

  157. Ypsitucky Headhunter
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Whatever you say Bodary. See you at the ballot box, come the next election cycle. I wish someone would post a list of businesses who supported the name change, so I could take my dollars elsewhere…where they are appreciated. And…to all the people who disagree with me…well…it’s just like the Big Lebowski says….That’s just…like…your opinion, man.

    P.S. – I like “Ypsilanti Hootenanny” and “Rustbelt Roots Revival”

  158. Coolio
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Ypsitucky Jamboree.

    Please respect my feelings.

  159. sam
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Ypsitucky Jamboree.

  160. Tammy
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Ypsitucky Jamboree

  161. Leeward Land
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Ypsitucky Jamboree

  162. Michael
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Ypsitucky Jamboree
    Ypsitucky Music Festival
    Screw You Ypsilanti City Council Festival

    My father in law is one of the southern transplants who worked at GM Powertrain for 30 years and he sees no problem with Ypsitucky and doesn’t consider it the least bit derogatory. This seems a lot like the Huron/Eagle debate in 89 at EMU where the opposition trotted out a slew of supposed Huron indians who felt “demeaned” by the use of the Huron logo. Who else is tired of this PC bull?

  163. Posted June 12, 2009 at 6:31 pm | Permalink


    Seriously, we -tucky supporters should all go to this festival!

    Don’t make me put up a winky face emoticon.

  164. Jeff Dils
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    The Huron Jamboree. If they are going to ban Ypsitucky, I am sure they will blast Hurons, as the University did. I still consider myself a huron though . . . Maybe it would be more acceptable as the Huron River Jamboree. . .

  165. Robb is NEGATIVE
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    I couldn’t agree more with the points made in ‘Impeach Brian Robb’. I live in his ward and he has NEVER asked me or my neighbors about his positions on ‘YpsiTucky’.

    The time and energy Brian Robb has spent to destroy an organization (DTCDC) who’s only goal is to improve our parks by contributing THEIR money is ridiculous. His vitriol surpasses those who strongly disagreed with the festival name. I think he is out to destroy those who go against his judgement.

    Personally, I have had it with the 3rd ward representives who think ‘they represent the city’. Hell, they FIRST should represent the third ward’s interest, which includes the residents and business district. If you notice both he and Murdock have used the phase, ‘they represent the city’. It’s time they represent our ward’s interest first.

  166. Frank
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    how about:

    Jam on the River
    The Ypsi Jam(boree)
    Riverside Festival
    Riverside Jamboree
    The River Fest
    Get out your patchworks and dance!

  167. Mike G #2
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    How about:

    YPSIlanti KenTUCKY Bluegrass Festival.

    The posters and graphics could make the Ypsi and the Tucky much more bold, highlighted, etc.

    The other option would be to take the entire series indoors to all the various venues in Ypsilanti, call it “Ypsitucky” and “city hall” can deal with it. If it’s not in the park, can the city really tell the private citizens what to call it? Just a thought.

    Good luck.

  168. Posted June 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    I’m a fan of “Rustbelt Roots Revival”, myself. A variety of reasons.

    * Alliteration is good.

    * It has some good sass to it.

    * It’s historically relevant – it alludes to the region’s southern heritage, without the sensitivity of the original name.

    * I don’t like festivals that have the name of the town in them. It makes them seem small and local. Think of “The Michigan ElvisFest” or “The Michigan Summer Beer Festival.” They don’t say “Ypsilanti” in the name because they don’t have to – they’re just that significant that everybody knows they’re from Ypsi. Whereas “Chelsea Fair” implies that, you know, every town has its fair, and there’s nothing to distinguish this one except that it’s in Chelsea.

    * I think any name that has “Ypsilanti” or “Ypsi” or “Jamboree” in it will be a sore point for people who will feel like, in this instance, it is a “tamed” version of the original that was forced on them. Lay the contentious name to rest entirely and start over.

  169. Myrna
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Here are some more suggestions to add to the other wonderful ideas of what to call the Ypsi**** Jamboree:

    Grass Roots, & Boots Bash

    Roots & Boots Jamboree

    Rockin’ Fiddle Festival

    Banjo Pickin’ Party

    Ypsilanti Serenade

    Ypsilanti Frivolity

  170. God
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Murph dead on about not having Ypsi in the name.

    Rustbelt is a pejorative.

  171. Carol
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Ypsi-Dixie Music Festival is catchy, but I’ve never heard any Southerners who came to live in Ypsilanti refer to their Southern roots as being in Dixie, or having family in Dixieland. I seriously doubt that they would relate to Dixie or Dixieland as a tribute to their heritage.

    My favorites:

    Ypsilanti Southland Jamboree
    (Ypsi Southland Jamboree)

    Ypsi Southern SoundFest

    Riverside Jamboree

  172. Shanster
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    You make some reasonable points about leaving the name behind, but no matter what the new name is, it’s a compromise. The sore point will be there, regardles. Compromise should be both sides giving and getting a little. If everything from the original gets dropped, the originators are only giving. Nothing is offensive about Ypsi or Jamboree.
    But a lot of people like Hootenanny, which at least keeps the original southern folksy angle.

  173. dp in exile
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Murph is right, and I hope that reasonable and diplomatic actions prevail.

    I do, however, still like the concept of having a redacting coloring party. Getting a room at the RAC won’t be a big deal if the will of this sensible mob is to have an YpsiXXXXX Jamboree.

  174. publius
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Ypsilanti Jamboree.


    Next issue.

  175. amused1
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Does anyone else remember the occasional hootenannies at the Freight House?

    While I’m not personally thrilled with the term hootenanny, there is a certain rightness to it. Back in the 60’s many members of the folk revivalist movement held hootenannies as rent raising parties for the performers involved.

    A bit off topic but in keeping with the idea of a hootenanny, I think it could be fun to have an “America’s Got Talent” style open mic session as part of the event. A venue for everyday people to share the music they, or their families, brought from where ever they came from. Some of the parameters could be: original or traditional music only, acoustically based, resident of Washtenaw County (or of SE Michigan counties to be more inclusive). X number of minutes in length, content appropriate for family listening.

    We know there are amateur musicians out there singing in showers, playing in their living rooms or wherever. Their roots may lay in Kentucky, Scotland, Mexico or the Congo. They may be amazingly good or stunningly not good. Who cares? They are our neighbors. Let’s use music to bring people together to share with one another, learn from one another, explore together our humanness.

    Let’s put down our pitchforks and torches and lift up our voices in harmony. Through the grace of whatever, be it God, the human heart, quartz crystals or groundhogs, music has the power to heal if we chose to use it that way.

    It’s our choice. Yours and mine. We can continue to struggle, argue, dig up offenses old or new, real or imagined or we can can celebrate one of our greatest gifts, music.

    Me? I choose to celebrate. I hope you will too.

  176. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    I miss the unsullied Ypsitucky Jamboree. What a great idea that was before all the bullshit. Damn child molesters.

  177. Posted June 13, 2009 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    I’m warming up to Ypsilanti Hootenanny, although I think there’s some merit to what Murph said about leaving the name of the town out. I just like the way that Ypsilanti and Hootenanny sound together. It makes me happy… If we do go in that direction, I think we really need to try to bring in some other psychobilly bands, though… And maybe on night we could show footage of Hasil.

  178. Odds
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    At this point, just cancel the damn “festival.” Everyone of the even best case scenario profit margins has been dismissed.

    It is now theoretically impossible for the event to generate a profit for anyone involved.

  179. DianeE
    Posted June 13, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    My suggestions:

    Ypsi. KY Southern Country Jamboree (or Hoedown or Hootenanny)

    Southern Heritage Country Jamboree (or Hoedown or Hootenanny)

    (Ypsilanti) (or Ypsi.) Down Home Jamboree (or Hoedown or Hootenanny)

    Ypsi-KY Down Home Country Jamboree (or Hoedown or Hootenanny)

    Ypsi-KY Down Home Country Music Festival

    Ypsi-KY Down Home Countryfried Music Festival (or Jamboree or Hoedown or Hootenanny)

    Ypsi- KY Countryfried Pickin’ n Singin’ Festival (or Jamboree or Hoedown or Hootenanny)

    OR…..any twist or turn or combination of any of the above.

    Good Luck!

  180. Michael McIntyre
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    I had meant to suggest “Ypsi-Dixie Music Festival (Not “Musical Festival”)

    I actually meant “musical” as a separate item:

    Ypsi-Dixie Musical.

    I also like “Riverside Musical Festival” as super safe — put the matter in the past.

    But I’d prefer “Riverside Musical” or Riverside Bluegrass Musical”

    “Ypsi-Dixie Hootenanny” also has a nice ring for me. Need to get a standard spelling for Hootenanny.

  181. Michael Schils
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    I agree with Murph’s reasons for leaving ‘Ypsilanti’ and its variations out of the name. I would also add a historical reason, in that the factory workers were primarily from the Willow Run area, which the people of city of Ypsilanti looked down on (but they liked their money). So if my understanding is correct and the concert is in tribute to the musical roots of this area’s working people, then it would be a bit of a slap in the face to name it after where “those uppity city-folks live”.

    To carry the alliteration a little further,

    Rustbelt Roots Revival(Renamed)

  182. Posted June 14, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    A few more thoughts…

    Murph, I disagree about the name of the town being a bad thing. For one, the Michigan Elvis Festival and Michigan Beer Festival just happen to be held here, not organized and founded here (I think). Second, this is different than your other example of the Chelsea Fair, because it’s not just a generic music festival that any ol’ town can have, it’s uniquely Ypsilanti’s.

    Also, plently of other nationally prestigious music festivals have names of cities and it’s always a good thing for the city associated. Think about The Ann Arbor Blues and Jazz Festival or the Newport Jazz Festival or The New Orleans Blues and Jazz Festival. It would be great if Ypsilanti had it’s name on something.

    Just my two pennies.

  183. Posted June 14, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t realize that if you say it with a twang, “YpsiLANti HooteNANy” has a lovely lilt to it.

    But basically, I’m with Murph. And I love Rustbelt Roots Revival.

  184. Posted June 14, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    I heard on the radio this morning that an Ann Arbor non-profit is having a “hootenanny” fundraiser of some kind. I think it was Project Grow. Anyway, if they’re having one, I suggest that we go to Rustbelt Revival. I think I like it better anyway.

    So, now that I’ve decided, are we done?

  185. General Demetrius
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Rustbelt revival? That’s aweful! Doesn’t sound like something I would waste time seeing. What a horrible image. The Real McCoy Jamboree gets my vote. Hootenanny sounds like a bunch of geeks in white cardigans singing “This Land is Your Land”. Yikes.

    Who is the target market anyway? I don’t think Township people are. They may have southern heritage, but I don’t think that makes them bluegrass fans. What makes anybody think this thing is going to be a success?

    Regarding Ypsitucky. It was a mean thing that Ypsilantian’s called the workers out at Willow Run. The adults had to tell the kids to stop it, then AND now.

    Milan already has a bluegrass festival, with national artists. You better have a serious lineup if you want to run with them. I think they have Rhonda Vencent and also The Grascals this year. Nobody is going to pay money to see bar bands in a venue that you can’t drink at. Maybe we should cancel this thing and come up with something else.

    The General

  186. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Something smells like dead Madison.

  187. A. Nonymous
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    I’m with Murph- we should leave the “Ypsi” out of it. Rustbelt Roots Revival/Rustbelt Revival don’t sound like music festivals to me, they sound like social or religious movements- appealing to some, but not all. Hootenanny by the Huron/Huron Hootenanny sound less serious. If you’re anti-Hootenanny, you can go with Hodown, but then that might get the hos offended.

  188. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Maybe we should cancel this thing and come up with something else.

    Why did the whole Pierce crew have it out for this festival from the get-go, I wonder? Curious.

    Why do I think it all boils down to an unabiding disgust for those types of people?

  189. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 14, 2009 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    “The nature of despotic power in democratic ages is not to be fierce or cruel, but minute and meddling.” — Alexis de Tuckyville

  190. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 15, 2009 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    Ok, this is what I think people missed. This festival is being marketed to the thousands, hell, tens of thousands of people 18-40 who attend outdoor music festivals every year. There is an enourmous one called Bonaroo this weekend. There is and even larger one called Rothburry going on in Northern Michigan next month. People attend from all over the country and pay hundreds of dollars on tickets alone. For an example of how a city can make it work for them, check out the 80/35 music festival in Des Moines, Iowa. Think larger than local on the name folks, there is potentaly hundreds of thousands of dollars to be made from a properly marketed music festival if it can grow its reputaion over a span of years. Don has a great line up, and this could be the start of a huge money making endevor FOR OUR COMMUNITY. Please stop bickering, please don’t choose a name because you think some one that lives across town from you will be annoyed, and if you think it’s a bad idea all together, well, then present us with a better one. None of this, pro or con, has been constuctive for the city so far. Can we change that now?

  191. Shanster
    Posted June 15, 2009 at 5:05 am | Permalink

    “Rust Belt”? Most dictionaries I checked noted that the term refers to declining manufacturing leading to unemployment in our great NE states. Rust itself is basically corrosion, leading to disintegration. Sounds a little too sad.

  192. Jim
    Posted June 15, 2009 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Dixilanti Hootenanny.
    Appalanti Hootenanny.
    Little Orphan Hootenanny.

  193. dan
    Posted June 15, 2009 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    That makes me like Rustbelt Revival even more! What’s up with all these people who want to sweep reality under the rug instead of dealing with it positively? If your leg’s broken, do you refuse to wear an unseemly cast? Why not wear the cast you’ve got to wear, and get everybody to sign nice things on it? We’re Ypsitucky, we’re Rustbelt, we’re here, get over it.

  194. Donnie
    Posted June 15, 2009 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    Grassroots Music Fest
    Encompasses everything everyone wants the name to be!

  195. Lisele
    Posted June 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Rustbelt Revival does not quite sing as much as Rustbelt ROOTS Revival. As a gardener, roots are very important to me. I don’t wanna see them get left out. Growing roots, examining our roots, rooting out discord and disharmony, rooting for the Carnies (TONIGHT AT TOP), all these things are integral to healing the wounds that divide us.

  196. Torch
    Posted June 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    If you’re going to the Carnies show this evening looking for healing words, I think you’re going to be sorely disappointed, Lisele.

  197. pk
    Posted June 16, 2009 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Southern Fried Roots Music Festival
    Kentucky Fried Roots Music Fest
    Southern Fried Music Fest
    Ypsilanti Southern Fried Pick’in Fest (logo with a chicken bucket full of banjo’s)
    North by South Music Fest

  198. Sara
    Posted June 16, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    River Jam
    rivet Jam
    Willo- Blues and Grass Jam
    Willowtree Jam
    WillowTree BlueGrass Festival and or Jam Fest.
    Stone Mountain Bluegrass
    Cold Mountain Blue and Grass Jam
    Flyers N Bombers : Celebrating our festival roots.
    Cat Caught in the Willowtree
    General Lee: Stompin Fest.
    thanks, Sara

  199. blank slate
    Posted June 16, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Here’s an idea. Ask the 12 people who actually show up at this point what they want to call it. As a child of the sixties though I have to admire Brick Dick and friends for finding a cause really worth fighting for. This is some intense political shit. Seriously worth dyeing (your hair) for.

    When did Ypsilanti enter the house on MTV’s real world? God almighty. Is the price of having local music that we have to deal with ego’s who get pantie bound by this stuff? I think I want my XM radio…

  200. Tina
    Posted June 16, 2009 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    That show was awesome!!!

  201. kjc
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    i’m over the name thing and totally bored by it at this point, but one of the things i think the name should do is represent the music (or not try to do so at all; see the bonnaroo example). Cuz I’m mostly interested in the music (and the parks). Most of the bands I haven’t heard, admittedly, but I have seen Macpodz and My Dear Disco and October Babies and every time someone says bluegrass festival or hootenanny or hoedown or southern heritage, I think huh? I just think it’s important to market the fest accurately. If it’s an eclectic mix, then something less specific seems in order.

  202. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    If anyone is interested, I went to city council last night. Among other things, the voted to merge the DDA boards and voted down towing after 3am in the downtown district.

    Erik Dotzauer came and spoke briefly during the audience participation section about the “Festival to be named later” and asked that since the DTCDC has bowed to the wishes of the council and changed the name, that council consider reinstating DTCDC control of the parks. While the mayor thanked them for thier continued comitment to the parks, he also stated that he was glad to see the DTCDC was keeping it’s charity work for the parks seperate from it’s civic responsiblities for maintenance. This leads me to believe that the council has no intention of reinstating the DTCDC contract.

    Is this really the road we want to go down? In the time of economic does the city really need to be taking back control. To be sure, there have been complaints with the DTCDC, but couldn’t these be addressed with a NEW contract? This could return control of the parks to the DTCDC, free up $22,000 from the city budget (not to mention associated clerical and staff costs at city hall) and address the concerns of those who feel the DTCDC has not entirely lived up to it’s end of the bargin. The lunch issue is a non starter. How much do you think our civic officials spend a year on lunches? Most organizations, buisnesses, charities and governments have these kind of expences. It is part of the cost of doing buisness in this country.

    The DTCDC has provided an invaluable civic service to us. Do we realy want to throw that all away over a word? I’ve heard talk of starting a new foundation to care for more parks. Ok, but why waste the experience of the DTCDC over a few issues that could be resolved. Or, was this whole thing about another power grab in the city. I’m waiting for the answer.

  203. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Ooops. spelled my email address wrong on that last one. my bad. where’s my spell check? By the way, Black Jake, if you’re out there, hope you had a great show last night….

  204. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    If anyone is interested, I went to city council last night. Among other things, the voted to merge the DDA boards and voted down towing after 3am in the downtown district.

    Erik Dotzauer came and spoke briefly during the audience participation section about the “Festival to be named later” and asked that since the DTCDC has bowed to the wishes of the council and changed the name, that council consider reinstating DTCDC control of the parks. While the mayor thanked them for their continued commitment to the parks, he also stated that he was glad to see the DTCDC was keeping it’s charity work for the parks separate from it’s civic responsibilities for maintenance. This leads me to believe that the council has no intention of reinstating the DTCDC contract.

    Is this really the road we want to go down? In the time of economic does the city really need to be taking back control. To be sure, there have been complaints with the DTCDC, but couldn’t these be addressed with a NEW contract? This could return control of the parks to the DTCDC, free up $22,000 from the city budget (not to mention associated clerical and staff costs at city hall) and address the concerns of those who feel the DTCDC has not entirely lived up to it’s end of the bargain. The lunch issue is a non-starter. How much do you think our civic officials spend a year on lunches? Most organizations, businesses, charities and governments have these kinds of expenses. It is part of the cost of doing business in this country.

    The DTCDC has provided an invaluable civic service to us. Do we really want to throw that all away over a word? I’ve heard talk of starting a new foundation to care for more parks. Ok, but why waste the experience of the DTCDC over a few issues that could be resolved. Or, was this whole thing about another power grab in the city. I’m waiting for the answer.

  205. Posted June 17, 2009 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Hey Andy, thanks! We had a great time. Healing the old fashioned way with a very minor bloodletting to balance the humors.

    Not to [insert evil thing here], but it seems if the city’s not going to renew the contract anyway, might as well name it the Ypsitucky Jamboree again.

  206. rene@cornerbrewery
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    How about the Anheuser-Busch Jamboree? Looks like Gerry French and the fine folks at the DTCDC are going to thank us for all of our support by freezing us out yet another Ypsi festival. Budweiser bought the rights to the Heritage Festival for $5,000 and evidentally the French’s believe that should give them exclusive rights to all of the DTCDC festivals including the jamboree. So it looks like another “local” festival with no local beer.

  207. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    I will be highly dissapointed if there is no local beer (as promised in earlier promos) I suspect Don might be, too…

  208. Posted June 17, 2009 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    I appreciate all the work done so far by the festival organizers and hope the event happens. Community Records Foundation is working with a group of ten youth organizers (ages 14-18) to plan and run a phenomenal Children’s Tent at the festival. This will be a great opportunity for CRF and for young people in Ypsi. Hope it happens! Thanks for all yr hard work to help this community shine.

  209. Posted June 18, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    The Ypsi Citizen is reporting that the event is to be called “The Jamboree”.

    Apparently they were going to go with “Rustbelt Roots Jamboree” but some people didn’t like the term “rustbelt” either.

  210. Scott K
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    “The Jamboree”…lame…neutered….it says nothing about what the event is. As far as I can tell it’s a Boy Scout rally. Great martketing. That should draw in people from outside of Ypsituc…I mean Ypsilanti. And as far as local beer at a “local” festival…they say the new name reflects a “regional” festival…must be the reasoning at using a “regional” beer like Budweiser instead of a local one…Panther Piss.

    Here’s a cold Panther Piss hoping The Rocket comes up with some great t-shirts this summer!

  211. FriarTucky
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Totally neutered the name. “Rustbelt” was derogatory too? Wow Ypsi takes 2 steps backwards every day. I am offended by the name “Jamboree” since it has the word “jam” in it and jams can be bad. Traffic jams, toe jams, etc. And did anyone think of how it will hurt the feelings of preserves, particularly strawberry?

  212. Scott K
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Oh lord, the preserves!! PETA is going to be all over that one!

  213. Posted June 18, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Don’t fret; we private, unaffiliated nobodies can still call it the Ypsitucky Jamboree all we want.

    It’s the Ypsitucky Jamboree.

    See? Wasn’t struck by lightning or anything.

  214. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Huh. So the DTCDC lost their contract with the city, and they’re beholden to Steve Pierce’s opinion now. That’s what you get for surrendering.

  215. Billy
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    FUCKING LAME!!! “The Jamboree”? That was my least favorite part of the name in the first place. Maybe instead of selling CDs, the bands could sell cookies. This whole thing just seems so stupid now…I wish I would have just went camping somewhere instead. I hope people avoid this whole Mess O’ Fest, and it crashes and burns. So let me get this straight…they shot down the first name, and then they came up with a second cool sounding name and they pissed on that one too…then, they bottled all that piss, and will be serving it in beer bottles to the festival patrons? No wonder everyone pokes fun at this town….

  216. Andy Ypsilanti
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Hey, so all of you out there who said you would support the festival if the name was changed, I’m now organizing volunteers. I’d like to see you all put your time behind your words No, I was not involved with the festival when the debate began, for those wondering.

    And yes, the new name is bland. But I’m really tired of wasting our energy because a few people want to complain about trivial things. But if this gets people involved in local politics, it’s served some purpose. On that note, if anyone wants to join me in getting more people informed about what’s happening in city politics, that project starts the day the Jamboree ends…

  217. JC Miller
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    I want to be upset with this new name, but it’s so insipid that I just can’t muster any passion.

  218. Brackinald Achery
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Let’s take out the offensive “jam” and just call it the “boree.”


  219. What's In a Name
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    So Ypsitucky was a bit too edgy. Understood, but folks really need to lighten up around town.

    Now Rust Belt is too edgy as well? Are you fucking serious? You see the term used in the NY Times, academic books, etc. It’s mostly used as a term for post-industrial cities in the Great Lakes region, not a derogatory name hardly these days. I’ve lived in the Rust Belt my whole life (and toured most of it’s big cities) and I have no problems what so ever with this title. In fact I think it would be even better and more accurate than Ypsitucky in so many ways.

    So with Ypsitucky shot down and now Rust Belt can we officially declare Ypsilanti the lamest city in SE Michigan (certainly the Rust Belt) and possibly the entire state? Blandsilanti indeed!

  220. What's In a Name
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Forgot to mention two things:

    -If Rust Belt is consider derogatory by “them” (whomever they are) what are they going to do about DAY hosting an event titled: Rust Belt to Art Belt and filmed and posted to the internet by none other than the most important person in town himself: Steve Pierce?

    -We have a city employee, Richard Murphy, who on this very blog put the idea out there for the name Rust Belt Roots Revival. What are “they” going to do with a city employee who is paid with “their” tax dollars and not only supports the term Rust Belt for Ypsi, but also came up with the idea?

  221. dan
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    I think I’ll call it the Ypsitucky Rustbelt Revival.

    Fuck you, whoever.

  222. Posted June 18, 2009 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    If it’s okay by you, dan, I’d like to call dibs on that name for a song title.

  223. dan
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Okay, but you have to credit me. Small d. Better be good.

  224. Amanda
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    the bottom line for me is that daisy may erlwine and seth bernard are playing at it– within walking distance of my house! counting down already!!

  225. BornInYtown
    Posted June 18, 2009 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    I’d like to start off by saying I love Ypsi, it’s the town where I was born and raised, however I’m in total disgust over many of this town folks. As a native of Kentucky, over six decades ago my grandfather made this town his home as a consequence of the times he lived in. I’m not quite sure what pain he felt when someone degraded Ypsilanti as “Ypsitucky” but I could assure you that it never made him ashamed of his roots. My Grandpa is not here today to give his opinion upon the matter of the Ypsitucky dispute, so I feel his family is his only representative. Perhaps sixty some years ago, if some Ann Arborite or other outsider had suggested he hailed from a place so called Ypsitucky he’d “not take a liking to it”. However, I feel that if the city and it’s people, that has taken this abuse for so many years, had attempted to dilute this term and use it as a way to commemorate this city’s heritage, he’d be all for it. Though I’m not quite certain of the history all of those that oppose the notion, it drives me mad that there are those who are relatively new to the city, by my standards, feel they can step on our toes and deprive us of the right of expressing the love of our own roots. I know Steve Pierce is quite the expert on the influx of southern bred Ypsilantian’s and the mayor has heard the public outcry over the name, but who’s voice was heard??? Was it really the southerners who are so outraged and feel downtrodden, or is the overly PC citizens who have no connection to the heritage they feel they should speak for. I even wanna suggest that there are some folks that don’t want their beloved city labeled after some “backwards” people from yesteryear , regardless of how they helped mold this city. In conclusion, I supposed I just wanna say the name change is total bullshit, and if you live here and don’t like the fact that this is Ypsitucky, deal with it.

  226. The kingpin
    Posted June 19, 2009 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    Actually…I’m sorry What’s In A name, but I coined the named Rustbelt Roots Revival…and I’m not Richard Murphy. I just looked at some of the suggestions, and tinkered with them a little. But, no big whoop. Just so you know. And my name is Billy “The Kingpin” LaLonde.

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