paul/ventura ’08

I suppose it’s too late now to get Ron Paul on the ballot as an independent, but I’m getting the sense that, if we were voting today, he and Jesse Ventura would get more votes than McCain/Palin. (Thankfully, however, they’d all lose to Obama.) I know things are likely to change again before election day, but this financial meltdown seems to have really resurrected Paul in the eyes of disillusioned Republicans (who now, by the way, comprise 70% of the party).

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  1. designated republican
    Posted September 23, 2008 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    McCain – Palin will lose Washtenaw County by a wide margin, lose Michigan by 50,000 votes, and win the Presidency by 20 electoral votes.

    Don’t worry, it will all be over soon.

  2. mark
    Posted September 23, 2008 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Maybe it’s a bad sign, but I’m feeling confident today. I’m getting the sense that people are finally starting to wake up to what’s been going on. And I don’t just mean here in Michigan. I think there’s a big shift taking place in the country. I think that reason may still prevail.

  3. mark
    Posted September 23, 2008 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    And I really do feel that Paul, running as an independent, would come close to beating McCain.

  4. Tim
    Posted September 23, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    DR, how do you see McCain winning by 20 electoral votes without Michigan? Do you really think McCain will win PA?

  5. Brackache
    Posted September 23, 2008 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    As someone who followed Paul’s bid for the Repub Nom pretty closely, I can tell you that Paul (and/or the people around him) is gifted at marginalizing himself. He’d find some way to fritter away him momentum so he wouldn’t win. Mostly his passion is in leaving a public record of principled Constitutional stances and accurate predictions of foolishness in congress, so when everything goes to shit people will know why. Winning Presidential bids just ain’t his bag.

  6. Posted September 24, 2008 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    We all know how well Republicans are at predicting the future. I’m sure that he can tell you what McCain’s meals will be that day.

  7. Paw
    Posted September 24, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    I knew that Ron Paul had been resurrected! I’ve been going to the cave where we put his body every day and noticed yesterday morning that the boulder blocking the entrance had been moved.

  8. Robert
    Posted September 24, 2008 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    “Washtenaw County by a wide margin”. Way to go out on a limb there, designated republican. The most likely combination of states which gives McCain your 20 EV lead includes Ohio, Minnesota, Nevada, and New Hampshire. It’s also possible that McCain could lose Minnesota and New Hampshire, but take Colorado and New Mexico instead. Don’t be so sure your guy isn’t going to win Michigan either. I think I am seeing indications that racism is going to cut a lot deeper into the Democratic base than anyone is saying very publically. Detroit and urban Washtenaw County are going to need unprecidented turnouts in order to make up the difference…and remember, it takes two new Obama voters to counter the affect of one Democrat flipped against Obama.

  9. Brackache
    Posted September 24, 2008 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Beware the 60+ year-old white person vote. It’s a killer. Those old farts are silent but deadly.

    I should have gotten paid to say that. Pure gold.

  10. designated republican
    Posted September 24, 2008 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    McCain may surprise me and win Michigan, especially if the UAW keeps up with their goofy ‘attacks’ about his automobile choices.

    As for the national electoral vote count, I believe that a 20 point victory margin for McCain is conservative.

    As for Ron Paul, please get a grip. If you need a progressive alternative to Obama, please vote for Nader. If Ron Paul thought he had a chance, he would’ve run as an independent originally. At least Nader has the organization and support to get his name on the ballot in most of the states.

  11. Robert
    Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    I haven’t seen the UAW attacks on McCain. What are they saying about his automobile choices? I assume McCain drives a Lexus, but that’s just a guess.

    If McCain wins Michigan, you can thank Democrats who are voting against Obama because of race.

    I’m pretty racist myself…about 50% racist. But that half is voting for Obama’s white half. My more thoughtful half is voting for Obama’s black half. That’s how my inner demons have worked it out.

    Anyway, I don’t think your prediction is too outlandish, designated republican. I think there is a good chance that McCain can win Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and even Pennsylvania due to insidious Democratic racism.

    It’s nice to see you commenting again, designated republican, and not cowering like those wimps ytown, publius and namaroo. I guess it’s because you’re much more skillful at the art of distraction. When those others try to do it, they usually come off as crazy and unable to focus.

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