ron paul supporters want blood

So, this is what it looks like when a snake begins to consume itself… The supporters of Ron Paul made news today for chasing Sean Hannity through the streets, and going after Republican pollster Frank Lutz. The right breeds hate and uses it as a weapon, and now, it would appear, some of its most hateful are turning the weapon on them. It doesn’t make up for the fact that they’ve turned our once-great country into a capitalist brothel, but the poetic justice of seeing the likes of Lutz and Hannity being picked apart by bloodthirsty swarms of their rabid former fans does make me smile.

2008 for the Republicans is shaping up to the year of reaping what one sews. First, after years of manipulating the religious right to get Republicans into power, the evangelicals have turned around, at least in Iowa, and chosen one of their own — a minister who claims to be a part of “God’s army” – to lead them. It’s certainly not part of the GOP play book, and I’ve got to think that between Paul and Huckabee, the corporate powers that be are shitting bricks right now. Unless they can be destroyed, and, believe me, the Republican party is trying their best, these guys are going to bring the current frat party to an end pretty damn quick. If either Paul or Huckabee runs as an independent, they’ll make what Nader did to the Democrats in 2000 look like child’s play.

It’s worth mentioning, as long as we’re talking about reaping and sewing, what the Obama campaign is doing to Fox News, the network that reported incorrectly, and several times, that he was educated in a radical Muslim madrassa. It’ll be fun to see how his administration deals with them once he’s elected President.

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  1. egpenet
    Posted January 8, 2008 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    FOX News is actually prohibited in Great Britain by the national censor for the bias its projects, same with Al Jazeera … FOX is poison.

    Speaking of bias … but Chris Matthews on MSNBC so obviously hates Hillary … there was an incidental exit poll reported by a web blog that his attitude was credited with many NH voters going for Hillary.

  2. John on Forest
    Posted January 8, 2008 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    FOX occasionally has entertainment value. I never look for new on that channel though.

  3. Ol' E Cross
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    I’ve got a friend who is a passionate Ron Paul supporter. He swears that he and his kin will leave the party if Paul gets undermined.

    All the Republican’s will need to rally their disenfranchised far-right troops back to the voting booths is a candidate they find so reprehensible they’ll return to the party to vote against. Kinda like George Bush did in bringing the Greens back to the Dems.

    One candidate stands out as the one that the Huckabee and Paul supporters will return to oppose. And, I congratulate her on winning N.H.

  4. egpenet
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Don’t equate Huckabee with Ron Paul. Ron Paul may appear as a fringe libertarian … which he is. But Huckabee is merely the evangelicals last hope.

    NYT Magazine letter writer said as much, going further to say that: “Mitt Romney is the wrong religion. John McCain is confused about religion. Rudy Gouliani has insuifficient religion. Fred Thompson is alseep in the pew. Huckabee is all that remains for those who value religion above all else.”

    Right on.

  5. Posted January 9, 2008 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Wow, good show Mark =-) A few comments if I may…

    1. I don’t know many Ron Paul supporters (including myself) who were ever members/supporters of the Republican establishment. In fact, almost all of the Ron Paul supporters I’ve communicated with are new to being involved in politics. Characterizing Paul supporters as “bloodthirsty swarms of their rabid former fans” [of the Hannity Monster] is grossly out of whack with reality. Although I too smiled when it happened, if anyone deserves to be swept away by a mob it is Mr. Hannity.

    As a Green who has helped raise funds for the Paul campaign in internet-land, I support the wholesale dismanteling of the federal bureaucracy in favor of letting states take care of their own business. We’d get universal health care and education reform in Michigan a lot quicker if we only had to focus on dysfunctional Lansing politicians rather than the whole country via the Congress.

    2. Nader & the 2000 election… I’m surprised that someone as intelligent and articulate as yourself has bought into this myth perpetrated by lazy and strategically inept Democratic National Committee types. In fact not only did Gore lost his home state of TN, 12% of FL Democrats who managed to have their votes counted actually voted for Bush according to VNS exit polls, and not a single Democrat in the Senate stood with numerous House Democrats calling for an official investigation of the election before certifying the results. The list of Democrats who could have done something about the election in the Senate included Fiengold, Feinstein, Lieberman, Levin, etc. I actually just called the FL Secretary of State’s office, there were over 2.5 million registered Democrats who did not vote in 2000. If the lazy eye of angry Dems remains focused on FL 2000, then they should look at their own organizational capacity and effectiveness rather than blame someone who didn’t even take 100k votes.

    So… I think you owe Mr. Nader an apology =-) Or heck, maybe you can blame Nader for Obama and Edwards not being on the ballot next week too, it makes about as much sense.

    In short, it’s Al Gore’s own damn fault that he lost the election. The “spoiler” argument is nothing but a cop-out.

  6. egpenet
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    I agree … for some strange reason. There should have beeen a MAJOR recall … but for a very weird and unexplained reason, Gore and the DNC did not challenge.

    I will repeat this elsewhere tonight … but in areas with Diebold machines in NH, Hillary won big and Obama was creamed. In non-Diebold districts, Obama creamed Hillary. Hmmmm?

    And agin … no admission of the FACTS … and no screaming for a recounmt. Obama, IMHO, got screwed!

  7. mark
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t mean to suggest that Nader was the one, single cause for Bush winning. Rove, the Supreme Court, the Florida Secretary of State, the timid Democrats at the top of the national organization, all the people caging votes, and maybe even the folks at Diebold. There’s lots of blame to go around. I do, however, believe that Nader took some votes that would have otherwise gone to Gore. That doesn’t mean that he was wrong, or terrible. It’s just what happened… And I don’t have any proof for why it is that I think most Ron Paul supporters are Republicans. Maybe it’s that he’s running as a Republican.

  8. egpenet
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Bush won because of Diebold and the fear of the dems for causing a freaking national riot by appealing the decisions in Florida and Ohio … IMHO. “National Unity” was Goe’s rationale … my opinion is that the case for fraud was very tough ro prove.

    I also think that Obama got screwwed in NH because of the Dieebold machines … and again, alas! … NO PAPER TRAIL!

    I urgae all of your to write to MoveOn.Org to sign their petition to insist on paper trails for all electronic voting machines!

  9. Rwinger
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Sorry, Hucklabee is not the Evangelical choice, just one of the better choices right now. No Evangelical leaders have stepped up to support his campaign. Neither Obama (too young, no executive experience) nor Hillary (too dishonest, no executive experience) will be able to win the general election. Additionally they are tearing each other apart. The next president hasn’t yet declared his candidacy – wait till summer!

  10. Peter Koy
    Posted January 14, 2008 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    “FOX News is actually prohibited in Great Britain by the national censor for the bias its projects, same with Al Jazeera … FOX is poison.”
    Whilst I agree that Fox News is vile – it and Al Jazeera are not “prohibited” in Great Britain, both can be seen for free with the standard satellite package.

    There is also no such thing as a “national censor” – we in the UK enjoy free speech, far more than you do in the USA – we can criticise our government and our foreign policies without being accused of being “unpatriotic” !

  11. egpenet
    Posted January 14, 2008 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Peter –

    I must have it wrong. I heard the story on NPR and must have mis-heard it. Prhaps it is Fox that is not allowed in the middle east somewhere. The interview was with a Brit on Al Jazeera. Hmmm. I apologize, especially for suggesting that there is a national censor in GB. That was also part of the NPR story. Once again, hmmm.

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