The next meeting of the Ypsi-Arbor Progressive Reading Group is scheduled for the evening of Thursday, June 9, and the book we will be discussing is “The Conscience of a Liberal: Reclaiming the Compassionate Agenda” by college professor and Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone. If you’d like to attend, just send me a note and I’ll add you to the distribution list so that you’ll know once we’ve decided on a location.

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  1. chris
    Posted May 26, 2005 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Wellstone was a great guy even if he was a professor from one of my alma mater’s nemesis, Carleton. There is a great story about him when he was a freshman in the Senate. You know that bus that he drove around when he was campaigning? I heard that his first days in the Senate he would come and park that thing sideways taking up like 5 parking spots, of course putting quarters in all the meters. This apparently pissed off many other members of the Senate and their emloyees, in part because it indicated that he was there before them.

    But wait a minute, maybe its all urban myth as wouldn’t that sucker not be very fuel efficient. I guess we’ll never know. I envy the members of your book group.

  2. mark
    Posted May 27, 2005 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    One of these days, if I ever get around to it, I think it would be neat to put together a little website on how to start a progressive reading group. I think, with a little work, it could be quite good. We could even have a suggested reading list, discussion guides, sample questions to facilitate conversation, templates for flyers that could be distributed, etc. (All things we should do for our own group anyway.) It’s just a matter of having the time… and energy.

  3. john galt
    Posted May 28, 2005 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Be sure to include these on the reading list

    Communist Manifesto
    Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels

    Mao’s little red book (quotations of the chairman)
    Mao Tsetung

    Mein Kampt
    Adolf Hitler

    The Republic

    Wealth of Nations
    Adam Smith

  4. Posted May 28, 2005 at 11:27 am | Permalink


    Why do you hate America so much?

  5. mark
    Posted May 28, 2005 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    I bet he doesn’t even support the troops.

  6. john galt
    Posted May 28, 2005 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    you can’t have a proper “progressive” reading group without including the classics

  7. mark
    Posted May 28, 2005 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Where, exactly, is Hitler considered a “clasic”?

  8. john galt
    Posted May 29, 2005 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    My logic there is that you want to start a “progressive” book club. The term “Progressive” is usually just a cover for socialist or communist ideaology. Hitler was a national socialist who transformed Germany into a socialist state.

  9. mark
    Posted May 29, 2005 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    I can see that you’ve got a pretty firm grasp of history there, buddy.

    As for labels, you can call yourself anything you like. Bush says practices “compassionate conservativism.”

    It’s all about marketing.

    As for our book club, we don’t “want” to start it. It’s been up and running for four months now. You might want to read a little more closely from now on.

  10. john galt
    Posted May 29, 2005 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    oh, my bad I didn’t realize you’d already read it.

  11. Posted May 29, 2005 at 9:02 pm | Permalink


    Why do you hate America so much?

  12. Doug Skinner
    Posted May 30, 2005 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    Hmm — many fascist and white supremacy groups call themselves “Christian.” Does this mean that “Christian” is just a cover for fascist ideology, or is there a flaw in the Galt logic?

  13. mark
    Posted May 30, 2005 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Fake name? Check.
    Faulty logic? Check.
    Personal attacks? Check.
    Runs away and hides when he’s called on things? Check.

  14. john galt
    Posted May 31, 2005 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Holy Crap, Just saw this book list on fark. This would be great for you “progressives”


  15. Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    john, the 1950’s called.

    They want their McCarthyism back.

  16. john galt
    Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    well brett, I just had sex with your wife.

  17. Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    That’s funny, because my wife’s been taking a nap in the same room as me for the last two hours, so apparently your cock is small enough that it didn’t wake her up.

  18. john galt
    Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    ah, so boring, You see I could have said 1830 is calling, they want their manifesto back.. But I thought I’d go with a Seinfeld joke, figured you’d get it since all you do is deliver pizza or something. You win! There’s no point debating with you, your massive cluelessness renders any sort or wit moot. You have defeated me with your terrible ignorance. “and the clueless shall inherit the earth”

  19. Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    john, what is it with you and the communist obsession? seriously.

    as for delivering pizza, i actually did that for a living years ago, which provided me with one of many opportunities to see the sorts of bullshit in the modern ‘service economy’ which is the result of the capitalism you seem to be so fond of.

    Go ahead and make fun of low-wage jobs, and the people that are forced to work them. That does wonders for your credibility.

    ..and sorry I missed the seinfeld joke, since that appears to be your primary method of gauging intelligence. You win. I lose. Boo-hoo.

  20. Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    …and i just realized you refer to the 1830’s and the communist manifesto, which was actually published in 1848.

    Coincidentally, that’s the year we doubled the size of the U.S. by engaging in an imperialist war against mexico.

  21. mark
    Posted May 31, 2005 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    My favorite part, in case anyone cares, is the part where Mr. Galt, falling behind in the battle of wits, suggested that he’d fucked Brett’s wife. That was certainly unpredictable. Very clever, indeed!

  22. Posted May 31, 2005 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Careful, mark. As I understand it, that was a seinfeld reference I failed to get, and so I was forced to feel the wrath of mr. galt’s rapier wit.

    I don’t wish for you to suffer the same fate.

  23. chris
    Posted May 31, 2005 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Good God Galt’s an idiot. Because everyone knows that the “sex with your wife” is a “Raging Bull” reference. But I am sure that he did not watch it once he found out it wasn’t in color…know THAT’S a Seinfeld joke.

    But why are you guys still engaging him? I am starting to wonder if Galt is really Mark or better yet…BRETT! Brett, I know its really you. How could he have done your wife? Because she is your wife!

    Now this is the point in the comments thread where you all start squabbling over who has the better credentials to be Galt. Teddy Glass had a good one reg. the correspondence course.

  24. Posted May 31, 2005 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    No, I’m Spartacus.

  25. chris
    Posted May 31, 2005 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Well if you’re Spartacus, and he is Mike Bell, then who is Mark Felt?

  26. Ken
    Posted June 1, 2005 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    I go on vacation, come back and find I missed a full blown episode of Revenge of the Troll happening in real time.

    So how did it end? Did they die?

  27. Robert
    Posted October 30, 2010 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    FBI Documents on Senator Paul Wellstone Raise Questions about His Death 8 Years Ago


    Minnesota Public Radio has obtained the FBI record of the late Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, who died in a plane crash eight years ago this week. The records show the FBI first tracked Wellstone in 1970 after he was arrested at an anti-Vietnam War protest. The records might also raise new questions about the plane crash that killed Wellstone, his wife, his daughter and three staffers. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the crash was caused by pilot error, but the FBI documents reveal for the first time that specific criminal leads were pursued by investigators.

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