schumer tells it like it is – it’s schiavo part two

From Armondo at the Daily Kos site:

A bunch of bloggers, including Markos and myself, got to talk to Senator Schumer for about forty minutes before he went on the floor to deliver his powerful speech.

I would not say alot of news was made, except I personally got the very strong sense that this is going all the way. There is no realistic compromise on the horizon.

It boils down to this – the Republicans will not give up the Nuclear Option. And the Democrats can not accept it.

Why are the Republicans doing this when, in Schumer’s words, there are 25 Republican Senators who believe in the filibuster? Four words.

The Extreme Religious Right. James Dobson & Co. To put it plainly, this is Schiavo Part 2. Frist has made a despicable Faustian bargain – do what Dobson tells him on the Nuclear Option, judicial nominees, and just about everything else, and they will back him for President in 2008.

It is that simple. Senator Schumer expressed amazement at the total control that the Extremists have over the WHOLE Republican Party. He stated that is has never been like this before.

Indeed, one can see and feel it. This is NOT good politics for the GOP. And they know it. But the control of the Extreme Right is complete. They can NOT say no to Dobson and his reactionary friends.

Break the rules? Who cares say Dobson & Co. Do the nuclear option and do it now.

There will be no compromise I predict. Frist, and when I say Frist I mean Dobson, will not have it. They are determined to go nuclear.

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  1. mark
    Posted May 18, 2005 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    And apparently Manny Manuel, the Republican staffer fired years ago by Orin Hatch for stealing Democratic memos from Senate servers, is now working with Frist on the nuclear option. Not terribly surprising.

  2. Posted May 18, 2005 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    yeah. using the term “nuclear option” by religious zealots obsessed with the “fulfillment of the prophecies” scares the bejesus out of me. What the h e double hock sticks is their ultimate goal here?

  3. Posted May 19, 2005 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Dear God, Frist as President? I’m going to hyperventilate.

  4. Ken
    Posted May 19, 2005 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    I wouldn’t cry too much for the filibuster. The republicans will change the rules and bring it back some day when they need it again.

  5. Posted May 19, 2005 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    And that’s the sad thing, isn’t it?

  6. john galt
    Posted May 19, 2005 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    why do they want to do this????

    lets look at the confirmation stats

    Harry Truman 100%
    Dwight Eisenhower 92.3%
    John Kennedy 77.3%
    Lyndon Johnson 96.2%
    Richard Nixon 87%
    Gerald Ford 81.8%
    Jimmy Carter 100%
    Ronald Reagan 95%
    G.H.W. Bush 95.7%
    Bill Clinton 86.4%
    George Bush 53.1%

    yep, lets not change anything its working as normal

  7. Ken
    Posted May 19, 2005 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    If you disqualified all of W’s appointees, he would of actually of had 0% confirmed. Those moonies sure know how to warp the numbers.

  8. john galt
    Posted May 19, 2005 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    i’ll just cross post (and correct spelling :)

    more horrors from lexis nexis

    LexisNexis: Women in Politics Progressing Faster Than Women in Business
    Database search finds huge lag time in high-level appointments

    DAYTON, OH, October 01, 2004 – The White House track record of appointing women to high-level political positions is always noted, tracked, counted and recorded (and often given an abysmal record by advocacy groups), but when compared to corporate America, women in politics hold positions in higher echelons than women in business, according to analysis of information sources in LexisNexis

  9. Posted May 19, 2005 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Wait a minute, where on earth did Mr.Galt get those stats? Everything else I’ve ever read has shown that 97% or some ridiculous percentage (definitely in the 90s) of his nominees has been approved. The only ones are the ones that are so obhorrent are the ones that even moderate Republicans would recoil at.

  10. Posted May 19, 2005 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Abhorrent…dear God, how did I misspell that?

  11. john galt
    Posted May 19, 2005 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    you shouldn’t get all your news from the koz kidz

  12. john galt
    Posted May 19, 2005 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    if you subtract the number of withdrawn (because of filibuster potential) and the number of waiting (because of filibuster) you get about 90+% approved. That 95% number is the number of approved versus rejected. All the judges in question would be approved if a vote were to happen, unfortunatly the dems don’t want the republic to be able to choose.

  13. merman
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    john – I was wondering it you are the only human posting here. I think the other posters are just bots set on level 1. It’s like reading a bad 8th grade school newspaper…. but again with bots.

  14. Posted May 20, 2005 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    ethel merman,

    you’re lucky there’s the first law of robotics, or else things would get pretty ugly around here when you humans interfere with our plans.

  15. Posted May 20, 2005 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Mr. Galt – For your information, I NEVER read kos. I get my information from the New York Times, but I know you conservatives think that that’s a liberal rag, so you’ll discount it as accurate.

  16. Tony Buttons
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Mr. Galt (and all your aquatic aliases), you might find it informative to check out the following page on filibuster falsehoods.\

  17. Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

  18. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    shouldn’t you go by the senate data rather than a partisan site?

  19. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:05 pm | Permalink


  20. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:07 pm | Permalink


    yes… the NYT has never faked a story :)

  21. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    see above reference

    this is slate dammit!

  22. Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    The confirmation statistic of 51.3% of GW’s nominees does not reflect badly on the democrats. That just says that the 10 that are being argued over are the best of the bad and that the other 200 or so rejected already were so rotten that even the republicans couldn’t palette them.

    How is that strengthening any arguement for breaking senate rules?

    ( this post is dangling out on a spinner bait with 20 pound test and a little Jimmy Houston Bass Juice. Any fish with sharp teeth or over 20 pounds will risk snapping the line. )

  23. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    no problem with that Dave, but if you believe the machinations of the republic matter (which I’m sure you did when Clinton was president) then whats wrong with having a vote?

  24. chris
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    I am impressed with the eloquence (and brevity- ha-ha) of Chuck’s statements. He hit it right on the head of the nail.

    If this is true (AND ya’ know it is), the christian right are truly frightening.

  25. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    no chuck or charles in the thread.. Which “scary” post are you referring to?

  26. chris
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    HOLY CRAP! I thought Armando at Kos was Schumer, and it is a riot because when I was reading Armando’s words as Schumer’s I thought, well you know from the post what I thought.

    And, um, Jon- I was referring to the article’s suggestion that the x-right has that much of a stranglehold on the GOP.

  27. john galt
    Posted May 20, 2005 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    good post, it was written by a jew Jonah Goldberg, so if that bothers you, just ignore.

    here’s the link incase Ken wants to source me

    Invasion of the America Snatchers
    Europe invades.

    Huge chunks of the American population have been body-snatched by zomboid creatures from Canada, or possibly

  28. mark
    Posted May 21, 2005 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    You have sufficiently confused me with your clever posts, Mr. Galt, and now I don’t know what to think. Maybe we should just scrap our constitution and eliminate all dissenting voices.

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